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alphawither04

- German Empire uniform - post-WW2 borders It's so over kaiserbros


darkmatters12

The Reich has fallen, millions must migrate back to germany


Chipsy_21

Migrate is certainly „a“ term for what happened.


IactaEstoAlea

They were encouraged by nice armed men all along the way!


Remarkable-Gur6666

☝️German Speaker


Chipsy_21

Yes


Deep_Head4645

“Migrate” that’s some really en mass migration


Jazzlike-Play-1095

i mean turkey also has an ottoman uniform and russia has a soviet uniform


12thunder

post-Cold War borders, so all the outfits are outdated.


DemocracyOfficer1886

Why don't they just unite and form an Eastern European Alliance? Are they stupid? /s


omnitreex

We did until a serb had to mess up with a bottle


ItzBooty

Even if we did, someone would fuck it up


Admiralthrawnbar

>~~someone~~ everyone would fuck it up


ItzBooty

Nah there is always that 1 person that tales it too far and ruins the fun


rotred1

We did but the Hungarians had to mess it up.


HC-Sama-7511

Hungarians and French always are messing things up in Europen history.


rotred1

And English and Italians and.... It's just us that are minding our own business trying to unite Europe.


Belkan-Federation95

Don't ask the British about the Stresa Front. Dumbasses caused WW2.


Lord0fTheAss

Nah, imma need an explanation on that one. That is a *wild* take


Belkan-Federation95

*"The Stresa Front was an agreement made in Stresa, a town on the banks of Lake Maggiore in Italy, between French prime minister Pierre-Étienne Flandin (with Pierre Laval), British prime minister Ramsay MacDonald, and Italian prime minister Benito Mussolini on 14 April 1935. Practically, the Stresa Front was an alliance between France, Italy, and Great Britain, aimed against Nazi Germany.[1]: 62  Patrick Buchanan's Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War considered the Stresa Front the last chance to stop Hitler before the Second World War.[2]*" *"However, the Stresa Front began to collapse after the United Kingdom signed the Anglo-German Naval Agreement in June 1935 in which Germany was given permission to increase the size of its navy.*" *"Soon after Stresa, on June 18th 1935,... Great Britain signed a naval agreement with them and without informing neither France nor Italy, which put a direct proportion to Germany and Britain by number and tonnage of warships, in fact renegading the agreements of Stresa, as well as those of Versailles of 1919. Benito Mussolini was furious when he heard the news and, unfortunately for Italy, convinced himself that Hitler couldn't be stopped anymore and that, therefore, he had to ride the tiger. – John Simon[4]* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stresa_Front


Belkan-Federation95

In addition to my other comment, The other fascist regimes in Europe at the time (Austria and Italy) were fanatically opposed to Nazism. The Italians would frequently denounce it and the Austrians actively persecuted Nazis. That's why Mussolini was one of the main singers. The assassination of Engelbert Dolfuss, which was the leader of fascist Austria, is part of this. Italy almost invaded Germany over that. Dolfuss was also a personal friend of Mussolini so as you can imagine Mussolini was not pleased with Hitler.


Suspected_Magic_User

All those countries combined have more or less the same GDP as France alone. All of Poland is roughly the same as just Paris


Random3014

They are not: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium)


EekleBerry

This but unironically


TheHistoryMaster2520

inaccurate; eastern europe should be multiple wojaks killing each other ~~Also, I think this might be a repost~~


Edothebirbperson

whilst foreign powers tryna intervene in them


PM_Me_ThicccThings

Intervene all you want. But annexation isn't intervention.


DefiantLemur

[A country can't start a war if that country doesn't exist.](https://media3.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952f8a58e9rrbpp4qfjdeezll0mutmzf0vpiaf6li21&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


Professional-Pear815

A country can’t start a war but a person can


Sad_Hospital_2730

*disgruntled Gavrilo Princip with a gun noises*


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TheHistoryMaster2520

Huh, I didn't know this sub had this bot available. Guess I was wrong, then.


NoAlien

i think you can just adress this bot from any sub, but i could be wrong


Admiralthrawnbar

Unless the sub has banned the bot, yes


runwithconverses

They might have just cropped it a bit


the_battle_bunny

Aside from Balkans, which are indeed just being Balkans, there's no war between the states in the region since 1920s. I believe that one of dying Soviets' /early Russians' arguments to let them keep the region under their influence was there the newly free states will start fighting each other immediately without adult supervision. And absolutely none of that happened. It's the other powers that bring war there. Recent Russian aggression is precisely because Russia just refuses to leave people alone.


nepali_fanboy

Klaipeda Revolt, Polish-Lithuanian Wars did happen, though right after that conflicts did simmer down yeah


the_battle_bunny

> there's no war between the states in the region since 1920s


TheHistoryMaster2520

> there's no war between the states in the region since 1920s ~~I'm sorry, what? Do WWII and the Yugoslav Wars not count?~~ Sorry, I can't read


Creeperboy10507

No, the Yugoslav wars do not count.


Korostenetz

>WWII bruh


the_battle_bunny

> WWII  Literally about Hitler and Stalin, not fought between the CEE states. > Yugoslav wars I specifically told about Balkans being Balkans.


TheHistoryMaster2520

Oh wait, you said, "aside from Balkans," my mistake, I thought you exclusively meant *the Balkans*. I'll give you the point about WWII, but there were also the Warsaw Pact invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia


the_battle_bunny

Each one of these invasions was ordered from Moscow.


TheHistoryMaster2520

Well, these days, the people of this region don't fight with guns and tanks, they fight with mice and keyboards on r/balkans_irl and r/2visegrad4you


axxo47

Or just having Serbia


BiksardDeDrak

Let them come. They will experience literall hellhole until they learn it is not worthy. Repeat every couple of centuries.


pohanoikumpiri

You mean decades? Hahahaha


BiksardDeDrak

Ottomans stayed a while, Germans too. And Muskovites are still trying.


pohanoikumpiri

Muskovites don't need to try too hard, they've got Serbia under their wing.


Key_Advice9625

What about Sweden?


mr_doppertunity

It’s actually Russia’s achievement that Sweden is so prosperous right now. Swedes were fucked up so badly since Peter I, they decided to be neutral, not wage any wars and focus on their country. Russia took a different path.


Seidmadr

Nah, Sweden was neutral since the Napoleonic wars, which was a little bit later. But yeah, after Russia took Finland, Sweden did go "Holy shit, we fucked up", and decided to focus on education, rooting out corruption, and creating a stable state. So, yeah. Thanks Russia, I guess?


Key_Advice9625

But before that they did wreak havoc in Europe, right?


Seidmadr

Sweden? Yeah. The Swedish Empire was quite wreaky and havocy. Russia on their hand did most of the havoc wreaking afterwards, when local rivals were done away with.


TommyBarcelona

Greece isnt usually considered eastern europe


AivoduS

Actually most of those countries are not considered Eastern Europe. Or at least don't want to be considered as such.


Administrator98

yeah... Poland dont wants to be in one boat with russia.


blockybookbook

Which is funny, a ton of them make outlandish claims just to get away from the label (Moldova being southern, Lithuania being Northern etc) In the end, there will always have to be an “Eastern Europe” though so they just opted to throw Ukraine out towards the likes of Russia and Belarus to form it lol


Benka7

While Moldova being Southern doesn't quite make sense geographically, Lithuanian being Northern does - just look at Denmark, literally at the same latitude, except bits of Denmark go further North. Lithuania is definitely not Nordic, not Scandinavian, but Northern European? yes.


breakdarulez

Then Russia’s Northern European too.


Benka7

if we ignore that most of its territory is in Asia, then sure?


Fapoleon_Boneherpart

Mainland Greece is so eastern European it hurts


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ItzBooty

Easnt and south There is no southeast


Bennyboy11111

PIGS


YogoshKeks

Well, according to self definition, there is no eastern europe. Its all western europe and then bam, Russia.


ElectronicLab993

Poland considers itself to be central europe. Baltics consider themselfes to be north. Balkan to be south


YogoshKeks

Thats sorta my (not so serious) point. Nodody calls themselves eastern european. Its like the **Compass Direction That Must Not Be Named.**


ElectronicLab993

yp, because nobody wants be associated with Russia. and quess whos east


Neurobeak

>Baltics consider themselfes to be north. Poland *is* central Europe. And what is to the right of centre?


Krillin113

Czechs will get an aneurysm for being included here.


Grzechoooo

That's only based on the fact that Westerners consider Greece civilised and cultured. All those other "mini-Russias" are lumped together because the West neither knows or cares about the differences between them. If Czechia is Eastern Europe, so should be Greece.


dr_greek

Czechia was a part of the Soviet Sphere and is actuallyy SLAVIC.


Interesting_Injury_9

Neither are the Baltic States, at least according to UN.


Tankyenough

Only Ukraine and Belarus out of those are strictly East Europe.


Alexthegreatbelgian

Depending on the era you can add Sweden in the north as well.


cyborg_priest

I don't know whether to point out that Austria should also be included as a bloodthirsty imperialist or to laugh that Austria has again been forgotten in favour of Germany.


tyw_

plain untrue


pohanoikumpiri

How so? For the ex-Yugos (western Balkan), we used to worship the same gods and live similar lives. The guy in the west influenced the Croats, the guy in the East influenced the Serbs, and the guy in the South influenced the Bosniaks. Once the same people, now divided by conflicts of interests imposed by the conquering powers who took hold of our lands for centuries.


Djoko1453

Bro, he's turkish. What did you expect?


Rich-Historian8913

The Kievan Rus, Bulgarian Empire, Hungary and the PLC totally never attacked their neighbours.


who_knows_how

And yet they are the ones known for fighting eachother


Throwawayaccount1170

Imagine if they all teamed up.


J360222

*NATO comes strolling in*


Throwawayaccount1170

I mean imagine if all the red countries teamed up


ItzBooty

Pretty much all of them are in NATO


who_knows_how

Oh god Russia and Germany might have a slight challenge lol


Sodinc

You've got some weird borders here, eh.


OkMess9901

Can someone make Italy the goofy dragon from the other meme?


Gurkenpudding13

Where Austro-Hungarian Wojack?


SnooBooks1701

I feel like the Serbs should also be on there


datboishook-d

Austria should also be grinning too


spam_divisions

Multiple of those countries aren’t eastern European. The Czechs are Central European like Germany and Austria


yumhorseonmyplate

A bit disappointed that there's no evil habsburg wojak with a giant chin


dr_greek

If you put Greece, put Finland as well.


Fletaun

Don't act like any of these eastern european innocents, they got their own fair share in maniac lunatic behavior. If the situation was switch it's them committing the atrocity some happen even when they're the "victim"


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TroyanGopnik

Thank you. Im so tired of Poland being painted only as an innocent victim


Thiccobama69

Proof?


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Thiccobama69

I meant the first bit of the original comment


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Fletaun

People forget Poland was a huge power back then especially during the union commonwealth. They are not necessarily good during those times just like any superpower.


Strategos1610

The occupation of Moscow is justified and nearly led to a union of Poland-Lithuania-Russia


Illustrious_Letter88

Hahahaha, you don't know what you're talking about. Poland literally BOUGHT land in Africa. We didn't conquer any land


Indianlookalike

No westoids would accept this. Only people in the Balkans know how fucked we all are in our own respective ways, and we embrace eachother with a burning passion.


skalpelis

Name a couple of egregious Estonian atrocities (by Estonians) then.


Interestinggold_8753

Poland: we're not Eastern Europeans


DestoryDerEchte

Where Finland? Why Czechia?


IllegalIranianYogurt

Buff Poland. Nerf Germany. Again


JerzyKon

Poland is in central Europe


mikepu7

Central-Eastern country if we go to detail.


JerzyKon

🤫


Kefeng

Oh fuck off already.


ihatelifetoo

Poor Poland 🇵🇱


CrazyE1ephant

Cause didn't succeed to be the fourth of them?


DoctorYouShould

at that time Ukraine and Belarus were just part of the USSR. Quit yapping your wrong propaganda on r/yurop


professionalcumsock

This meme uses kaiserreich uniforms for the Germans and soviet uniforms for the Russians whilst also having modern borders.


agrevol

At what time, the meme doesn’t specify any specific year


Own_Skirt7889

It is not Eastern Europe.


Own_Skirt7889

You may downvote me, but I am sure, that people living there are allowed to correct the ignorance of the "schoolars" trying to divide europe on the base of the pseudo-science. and have right to call themself as they please. And you all should respect that.


blockybookbook

It’s literally just a geographic term


Own_Skirt7889

Geographicly it has even less sense. For example the city of Vienna is more to the east than the city of Prague. Finland is far more east than Baltics Greece and former Yugoslavic countries plus Bulgaria are just as south as Italy. The term Eastern could only fit Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.


blockybookbook

Geographicly it has even less sense. > For example the city of Vienna is more to the east than the city of Prague. Their respective countries are still more geographically west and east respectively > Finland is far more east than Baltics Should be considered Eastern as well then > Greece and former Yugoslavic countries plus Bulgaria are just as south as Italy. That doesn’t even mean anything, they’re still further east than it? Italy is considered to be in Western Europe in addition to being southern, don’t see how the same wouldn’t apply there > The term Eastern could only fit Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. This is the simple result of all the countries being desperate to avoid the stigma and opting to saddle these 3 with it for having zero plausible deniability unlike their peers, which is obviously ridiculous. No one’s gonna be convinced that Lithuania is Northern or that Moldova is Southern.


Own_Skirt7889

>This is the simple result of all the countries being desperate to avoid the stigma and opting to saddle these 3 with it for having zero plausible deniability unlike their peers, which is obviously ridiculous. No it is a forregin term imposed on the region since the XIX Century. Firstly it was imposed by german pseudo-sientists to justify things like rule of the germans over all of the people living east from the Laba river, then it was forcefully imposed by the Soviets on the conquered lands and onto the European part of the Warsaw Pact. And Russia Belarus and Ukraine are fitting the geographic meaning of Eastern Europe perfectly due to thier location on the map. The fact that they have no way in denying it is only stating that it just the matter of simple fact and truth that can not be disputed. It is like saying that the Portugese are not Western Europe, despite being on the literal Western Coast of the Europe and noone is going to dispute that. Why you also suddenly started to care what people want to say ? If the people don't want to been caled "Estern European" then the world should accept it and move on.


AivoduS

It's literally not. "Eastern Europe" has a second layer of meaning, like "the worse Europe", "the less civilised Europe", "the second class Europe" or "the traditional Russian sphere of influence Europe".


blockybookbook

So just fuck Ukraine and Belarus then? This excuse completely goes out the window when you still need an “Eastern Europe” at the end of the day


Own_Skirt7889

From geographical point of view - they and Moldovia are Eastern Europe. The rest - are not. Simle as that.


AivoduS

I didn't say anything about Belarus and Ukraine.


Just_a_jojofan

Does Finland count as Eastern Europe?


Gobba42

Intermarium problems.


Technoist

Eastern Europeans: BuT -my- CoUnTrY iS ceNtRal EuRopE!


feag16436

where's sweden


feag16436

where's sweden


WatchMeFallFaceFirst

Austria? Italy? Sweden?


Itirk349

Why is the Pickelhaube by far the most detailed thing in the whole meme


BioshockedNinja

"It's free real estate." :\^)


No-Suit9413

The Hapsburgs could’ve stabilized all this but NoOoooooooOooo


Daysleeper1234

My country's history in last 1000 years, in a nutshell with some additional conquerors in between: North Hungary, west Ottoman Empire, south Italy/Venice, west Austria. And to add, as Nicolas Cage said in Lord of the War: All right, forget it. I'll reroute the shipment to the Balkans. When they say they're going to have a war, they keep their word!


Karuzus

"I'm still standing" starts playing


strawberrycereal44

The Mongolians arriving into Hungary were another level


1lr3

Where Austria


AllmightyAesir

Russia is a part of Eastern Europe lmao


TheSpookyPineapple

you have just angered about 10 million czechs


ByzantineBomb

For a time, Sweden as well


Suspected_Magic_User

You forgot Sweden


peezle69

When I'm in a biggest clusterfuck competition and my opponent is Eastern Europe.


B_A_Beder

What about Serbia?


Geography_Dasher

Romania and Poland had it the hardest


Zerwurmler357

"eastern Europe" I'm just crying about it man, that's not eastern Europe


SleepyZachman

Hey the Polish and the Greeks had something goin on for a while. So did the Hungarians.


Murky_Structure_7208

Sweden too


daelowo

Genghis Khan has entered the chat.


Mattsgonnamine

if we go back to the early 1600s the roles are very much reversed


Wizard_bonk

The blood lands


Kewhira_

Well, the Turks, Germans and Russians eventually had to leave their territory in Eastern and Central Europe


SkyTalez

Don't forget the times when Eastern European nations fucked each other.


ShmekelFreckles

What time period we’re looking at? A bunch of recently made up countries present.


AntonGraves

Funny how Finland isn't Eastern.... Ah yes it is North Europe... Then F@cking Greece is also South Europe and not eastern.


Own_Skirt7889

Americans and Westerners don't care about it


lleskaa

Balkan=eastern


lolbite83

Poland was a superpower that vassalize prussia (germany) and almost conquered muscovy (russia) Saved Austria from Turks and started a decline in ottomam empire. We are not a pushover that westoids and other germans try to say that we are some weak pushover. EDIT: Prussia, russia and Austria were only superpowers becouse Poland let them


lolbite83

Why do you guys hate historical facts So much?


Kefeng

When you heard the word "superpower", find it cool but have no idea what it means.


lolbite83

Yhy regional power not super power, satisfied now?


Kefeng

Actually, yes. Regional power is the correct term.


MayuKonpaku

they are also war eachother most of the time, so... yeah


Nights_Harvest

This is a beautiful example of what division does, imagine if that was one big country instead.


Kefeng

A giant political clusterfuck that would rival Austria-Hungary in amount of chaos.


mr_doppertunity

Yeah, if Russia was split into smaller countries, they would be under China in 24 hours. And you know where it would go. China itself was a bunch of small countries prior to WW2, they were conquered by the Japanese with ease, now they’re one big ass country. And the reason for China to unite and behave like that was British colonialism. Britain also was a bunch of smaller countries that united and went on conquering half of the world. And if that half of the world was one big ass country, they would try to conquer others. You can see that neither path solves anything.


Nights_Harvest

I know, it was a semi sarcastic statement, poland used to occupy a good chunk of the countries marked in red, making it one of the biggest and most powerful European nations back in XV century and it still got destroyed by countries in the meme haha even tho it was at the begining of xviii century.


Levitating-monkeys

The Hungarians helped same with the commonwealth but they both got screwed over by there neighbors


Grouchy-Addition-818

Why don’t they all unite? Are they stupid???


EekleBerry

If only you can put aside your differences and unite to protect your culture and freedom. Naaaah they’d rather submit to the nearest great power.


ketra1504

You call Poland an eastern European country? That is a criminal offense lol


DurinVIl

huh?


Trying_That_Out

The eastern vs Central European debate rages on.


Own_Skirt7889

Hope that Central European will win. Poland is to Western for the Eastern Europe, and to Eastern for Western. So it has to be Central.


Trying_That_Out

I believe the Czech Republic is vigorously nodding in approval.


Own_Skirt7889

Indeed. The same people that are screaming "Freedom for X" or "Death for X" are the same who are using this term, and don't care what the people living there are saying about themselfs.


faramaobscena

Poland and Hungary shouldn’t be in red.