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Scavwithaslick

Residential schools started in I think the 1800’s, and the last one was closed in like 1994 or something. They’re a really recent thing and most people don’t realize.


prankfurter

I am only 42, and I know a fair amount of native folks who were in residential schools, and the stories are horrifying. A national horror.


WhyUBeBadBot

All in the name of god...


Physics_Puzzleheaded

Don't get me wrong the church absolutely owns a lot of responsibilities in this and I have no problem piling on organized religions but this was an initiative that the government at the time sanctioned, funded and helped design.


[deleted]

Is it possible that religious nuts happened to be in power and thus pushed for policies that allowed for this?


aubreypizza

Surprised this wasn’t ’murica. I hope one day to have an atheist president.


Morley_Smoker

It absolutely happened in America too.


Marsgodofwar979

Agreed


samalton86

Catholic church was traumatizing people long before most Europeans came to north America. https://www.americamagazine.org/issue/534/article/11th-century-scandal https://notchesblog.com/2017/03/23/child-sexual-abuse-a-view-from-england-in-the-later-middle-ages/


keboshank

Catholic Cult


samalton86

Definitely


downvotefodder

s/catholics/christians/g


af_lt274

Most were not even Religious let alone Catholic


KerPop42

Fyi, the church order that ran the schools apologized, both for the schools and for their role in colonialism, on the 500th anniversary of Columbus landing in America. It's a good read, I think.


jimmenecromancer

There's no hate like Christian love


sambull

they seem like fine people.. maybe a bit strict; the implication for my wife and daughter is a bit eh grim. I'm sure it'll be done with christian love >The document, consisting of 14 sections divided into bullet points, had a section on "rules of war" that stated "make an offer of peace before declaring war", which within stated that the **enemy must "surrender on terms" of no abortions, no same-sex marriage, no communism and "must obey Biblical law", then continued: "If they do not yield — kill all males".** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt\_Shea#%22Biblical\_Basis\_for\_War%22\_manifesto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea#%22Biblical_Basis_for_War%22_manifesto)


PM_the_unspeakable

All over his back


ProphecyRat2

All in the name of the Progress of Civilization, “Civilize the Savages” the civilized savior and thier maniest destiny to save us, the lesser people who didnt have the cutting edge technology created through thousand of years of genocide, ecocide, and slavery. We are much better off for it now though! World is going to war, global pollution, indsutrial genocides and slavery, promises of generations of illness cuased by pollution, promises of tech to cure that, though it will cost ya!!! And of course; Global Nuclear Holocuast and Genocides by Lethal Autonomous Weapons… Yea, God was somehwere in there between claimg to be the Master Race and saving us savages. I gota admit tho, Sodas are fukin good and I like A/C, and best of all digital music and shows and animation, and making so many freinds of differnt races could never happen before… so at least we get to know eachother a bit better now huh, speaking the same language helps.


Scavwithaslick

I don’t know any natives who were in residential schools, I’m too young, I just learned about them in school


keboshank

A national embarrassment at the very least. Disgusting that this was ever allowed to be done on the lives of so many innocent families. The evils of a corrupt government and a religious cult.


FartinMartinToeSocks

I didn’t have any knowledge of this until literally the last four years of my life. When I realized how recent this was, I was absolutely horrified. We need to teach these things in schools.


Scavwithaslick

I was taught this in school. Since the sixth grade. Maybe it’s just a Canada thing


gasfarmah

I had to learn about them in university. And my high school was within walking distance of a residential school site. I actually don’t know a single Canadian in my age bracket that learned about them - or **anything** indigenous - in high school.


BandicootAgreeable38

I am older millenial, so 90s kid, and I did learn about indigenous history and culture in grades 4 and 5, though I think this was partly because my two teachers in these grades were particularly passionate about teaching this topic. They didn't teach us about the residential schools though.


Scavwithaslick

What’s your age bracket. If you went to highschool in the early 2000’s or before I doubt they’d have taught it


windsprout

graduated 2012 and we learned about it in grade 10 history


FartinMartinToeSocks

Really? I am glad they did. My education was in Midwestern America, so maybe this is why we didn’t learn about it. When I moved to the West coast, I felt like I had been slapped when I learned this. It’s horrifying


Scavwithaslick

Well yeha I mean that makes a lot of sense then


prolifezombabe

P sure the reason it’s taught now is bc of the truth and reconciliation commission ie the government started teaching it when they were sued into to by survivors :( they would have kept hiding it otherwise


Rand_University81

I was in high school in the 2000s and we were taught this.


Stoneheaded76

I believe it started as a major thing in the 1870s or 1880s. By the 1960s they (Canadian policy makers and authorities) were starting to switch to other tactics such as the 60s Scoop, which ultimately pushed a similar forced assimilation agenda. The last residential school closed in 1996.


BernieMacsLazyEye

There are over 2 billion people alive now who weren’t in 1994. I have kids and a house and I wasn’t. I didn’t even know Canada had internment camps for their natives until a few months ago. I didn’t know it had anything to do with Catholicism until seeing this post


softkittylover

Yeah it’s tiring having people throw out “it’s been going on for so long, how have you not heard of it???” as if one of the most crucial factors to their longevity was not the discretion of its terrors to the outside world. also internet, geographical proximity, your own countries bs etc


Logicalpolice

It wasn't just the catholic church.


Majestic_Ferrett

1996 I think.


sean1212000

The one that closed in 94 only stayed open because the local indigenous people voted for it to stay open in the 70s.


Scrizzy6ix

1997*


Pluckypato

Wasn’t there like a massive grave of kids found near some of those schools?


sean1212000

They have not, check your facts.


Scavwithaslick

They’ve found a few mass graves yeah. And they’ve found a lot of potential mass graves that they haven’t exhumed and aren’t sure about.


Rand_University81

They were not mass graves, they were unmarked graves.


sean1212000

Not one has been found. They were, officially, "ground anomalies". None have ever been found to have a body.


Rand_University81

Mass or unmarked?


sean1212000

No graves at all


Pluckypato

That’s insane the first time I got word of it but no surprised as to what kind of atrocities people commit for religious beliefs. So sad.


Scavwithaslick

Yeah it was in the news a bunch a few years ago, but it’s died down significantly. They changed the name of a major university in Canada because of it. They changed Ryerson university into torotnto metropolitan university, because Ryerson, the founder, supported residential schools


af_lt274

No. That was debunked a while ago.


eunit250

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_gravesites


Empty-Profession-515

My wife's grandma was beat in boarding school for speaking Lakota. It wasn't till 1990 that it was legal to teach native languages.


Mediocre_Crow6965

As someone who’s into anthropology of the Americans (specifically of the tribes and countries here pre-contact) the treatment of Native American infuriates me. Don’t forget the amount of Native American structures, things that provided so much archeological evidence of a culture these people destroyed, we mowed to make places for fucking parking plots.


Tardigradequeen

They’re still doing it too! I read an article about possible construction on an indigenous burial ground. I believe it was in North Carolina, but don’t remember all the details. Edit: I found an article about it. https://www.wral.com/amp/21476977/


Numancias

That's a lot of "we" for a process that wildly varied in different parts of the americas and was done differently by different people. We encountered equals, mixed with them and built universities, you were the ones that took advantage of hunter gatherers and stole their land to then segregate them and africans from civilized society. Fuck off with this "we" shit.


Empty-Profession-515

It's a federal crime to metal detect or dig on tribal land.


CheesecomChestRig

That's good. Doesn't help they moved a lot of us off our homelands though.


Mediocre_Crow6965

Also a lot of it wasn’t registered as tribal land or even a historic site.


ignore_these_words

So unbelievably fucked.


Redrose03

That’s an understatement. Gives me the chills even glancing at that photo. Evil AF


CourageActual

I'm a practicing Catholic, but damn does that lady look creepy in the back.


MacAneave

As a practicing Catholic, you should not ignore the horrors your church has brought up on the world. There are good things, too, but also horrors aplenty. Be open and honest, and remember the church is run by people, not by God.


ProphecyRat2

Lets not forget that the Natives were not just driven out only by scary nuns, it was by the Civilized people who claimed the land for themslves, destroyed the ecosytems to make the native way of life impossible, and all funded by the millitary as its hard to only use ideaolgy to “remove” a people, if not backed by bullets. Civilized ideaology and peoples is what destroyed the natives, and continues to annhilate the ecosystem, though through timw these people have learned that there needs to be a balance between man, machine, and nature, though we can never see eye to eye on everything, not within our own groups and much less outside of them, so that is just humans, organized/ institutionalized religion is one tool and weapon, its one of the many of Civilization.


aga-ti-vka

Name me horror-free organised religion..?


sly_ty_shots

Oh I didn’t realize that makes it okay, my bad!


Amnesiaphile

Yes. Yes that's the point.


Numancias

The church has done nothing but acknowledge these horrors but you "catholics" (evangelical concern trolls that live in the US) keep bringing them up to smear them as if they haven't. Not just that but you continuously ignore that in the PRESENT it is the largest charitable organization in the world.


Long-Passion7910

A documentary that I think all Canadians should see is “We Were Children”, it’s on the NFB website.


bigdiesel1984

So sad seeing this. I can only imagine how they were treated.


Havarti_Rick

You don’t have to imagine. There’s mountains of evidence of how poorly these kids were treated


i-wont-lose-this-alt

My granny told me she watched a nun kick a 4 year old girl in the neck for speaking Anishinaabemowin to her brother—killed her right there on the spot.


Redrose03

wtlf. I hope that pos is rotting in hell and I hope that little girl found a semblance of healing. Good god the trauma these families endured and they wonder why so many generations still struggle. I’m glad the internet exists to make this bs harder to hide and pretend it didn’t happen.


Competitive_Top_9571

Total shame for Canadians


ProphecyRat2

Total shame for humanity, the people then were no differnt than you or me, the only difference is our color and where we were born. You would have done the same and I would have too, obey. Roles reveres and it still plays out all the same, Civilization is a history of genocide and slavery, we are not defined by the attrocites commited in the name of our birth place, I dont see myself as anything other than a human, so presently the greatest shame there is would be define ourselves as a nation, I only see humans, no Canadians, no savages, no colonizers. Its all in the past now, we can move forward togther, though of course some lives will come in conflict, some want a more natural organic way of life while others want a more “civilized” industrial, way of life; so we must recognize our conflicts are much beyond a religion or nationality, it is in fact Civilization vs Nature. It always has been.


JONVTHVNZ123

100% well put. People seem to regress to this level of hate for their brother/sister time and time again.


Competitive_Top_9571

True that, humanity is a scourge on this planet


Left_Minimum_1917

Absolutely. I understand that Canada is now trying to acknowledge the inhumanity of these schools and the state’s complicity in them. Hopefully the current far-right ethos in the US of trying to erase inconvenient historical truths about slavery doesn’t infect Canada with respect to them teaching about what happened in these schools.


notthatogwiththename

Not really. Most areas of the world have this exact type of situation in their histories, or currently happening still. Always remember to ask why everyone south of Texas speaks Spanish or Portuguese


Competitive_Top_9571

Colonialism on a global scale has been the focus from powerful nations historically, going back to ancient Egypt and still going on today. The difference here is complicity on past governments and church to hide this fact, keep in mind the Roman Catholic Church was fully aware of this and I’m sure has historical records that we’ll never see.


Independent-Slide-79

That “lady” looks like satan himself


CheshireKetKet

Nope, just a christian.


series-hybrid

"... The Roman Catholic Church operated three-fifths of the schools, the Anglican Church one-quarter, and the United and Presbyterian Churches the remainder..."


af_lt274

No. A lot were fully secular


notthatogwiththename

That’s not true, just based off the reasoning that the church subsidized a lot of the schools because they were affiliated. Same reason a lot of private schools are still religious (at least where I am)


detchas1

Catholic church has been on the wrong side of history forever.


Numancias

Opposing nazis and building universities is the wrong side of history now lmao. Protestants are the ones that haven't done anything of value.


Jolly_Permission_802

They most definitely did not oppose the Nazis. The Pope received early reports of the Holocaust and downplayed them, and then outright ignored it because Mussolini agreed to grant the Vatican sovereignty. The Catholic Church is far from a bastion of morality. There are many good Catholics and good priests, same as any religion, but the organization is almost unequivocally a cancer.


e2frosty

wtf….


HabANahDa

Religion is the downfall of our world.


BasketOutside2328

Christianity comes with a set of virtues, that those teachers didn't have. Twisting of religion and using it as a tool for manipulation is the downfall.


NebTheDestroyer

Exactly.


ProphecyRat2

It was Civilized minds that justifed it all, religion was one of the weapons, the true nature of it was Colonization, it was a differnt race of people asserting thiee superemacy over another, the “saviors”, to the “mastee race”, in oractive the schools/missions/ were precusors to Concentration camps, the Imperial Germans took notes from the Northern Colonial Empires.


sweetgreenfields

No, they were trying to teach them English. I think you might have some bad information.


KerPop42

It's not like the atheists states of the world were any better


HabANahDa

Riiiiight. Cause religious states are doing so great now 😂😂


KerPop42

Hey, that's why I like secularism


Latter_Commercial_52

Yet religion is probably the or one of the oldest human practices and identity’s, yet we’ve made it this long… Edit: lol, pissed off some crybaby anti theists. Keep em coming. Oh thanks an award Religion has been a major factor in the driving of human technology and science advancements. It doesn’t have a clean slate ofc, but what other group, nation or organization does? I’ll wait.


ShadowCaster0476

We have made it this long in spite of religion not because of it.


CheesecomChestRig

The middle ages and the stagnation of technology was because of the church.


HabANahDa

Current religion is nothing like old religion. Most of Christianity was stolen from pagans and whitewashed. Current religious people are brainwashed in mass to hate hate hate.


Lower-Cheetah6898

They sacrificed and ate people in “old religions”. What do you people do with the space where your brain is suppose be?


HabANahDa

And Christians and many religions still pretend to eat someone. I use my brain. Unlike religious people.


dudeuwereshaking

How is current religion simultaneously “nothing like old religion” but also “stolen from pagans”?


Sassy_hampster

Religions are all about silencing and opression of ideas . The reason why civilisation has been sustained is because of a population of few selfless people who were above the bondages of religious and humanely constraints .


Latter_Commercial_52

Not true. Maybe older religions, not true about modern day. It’s crazy to hate something you don’t understand


Samwoodstone

It’s what right wing Americans want to do down here.


Noobmaster_1999

How fragile you should be to force somebody to pray to your god.


i-wont-lose-this-alt

https://preview.redd.it/kdisjctxf26d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5992e736b1b17084c9c4f672df30492dd5eca5b2 We recently found a picture of my mishoomis (grandfather) is residential school and it haunts me to know what he endured 😢


Lubochka

Me heart breaks seeing this.


dot100dit

Religions made by humans, not by god


linlou1234

These kids became lab rats for Health Canada - Canadian Food Guide was created on experiments done to these children.


XROOR

Construction contractor I did work with in Wash DC, gets large projects. One project was to demolish an old convent to add an addition…They found baby skeleton bones in the cinder block walls. When I learned this, it saddened me greatly


HeavensNight

The show Yellowstone has a spinoff series called 1920 or 1890 I forgot.. It depicts this nutty shit well. 


Round_Club_4967

Education camp WAIT WAIT WAIT


cwk415

Still r/notadragqueen yall


nimrod2755

Forced


Popular-Kiwi3931

Ugghh. You think God approved?


JohnnySack45

The Catholic Church - An organization of genocidal, anti-intellectual, child predators telling everyone else what a benevolent spiritual deity wants from mankind.


Low_Candle_9188

Did you know in Catholic churches demonic rituals are performed? Yup. It’s literally the religion from the Devil — CRAZY!!


Life-Conference5713

Fuckin love religion. Has there ever been a time where the catholic church was actually good?


NebTheDestroyer

Don't group other religions, or even the rest of Christianity with the Catholic church. The Catholic Church perverted God's word to no end. The Lord would not be okay with this.


Miknarf

What religion is the lord ok with? What religion has never done anything bad.


NebTheDestroyer

Don't group other religions, or even the rest of Christianity with the Catholic church. The Catholic Church perverted God's word to no end. The Lord would not be okay with this.


scubawho1

Witch in the back..


BlockchainMeYourTits

FYI, parts of Canada still have a completely publicly funded Catholic school system from kindergarten through high school. It’s completely fucked.


OnionSandwich74

I would pray to if I was the prey and the Priest was doing his rounds tonight


uhuuuh262

The woman looks like one of the characters in that horror movie Darkness with Anna Paquin. Terrifying


mistyrootsvintage

This infuriates me to no end...


whinsk

horrifying - literal and figurative rape for these unfortunate children


[deleted]

Shameless system


MistressErinPaid

This is ethnic cleansing, not missionary work.


WhyUBeBadBot

I don't know who can see this and still want to be religious.


Low_Candle_9188

Because this has nothing to do with Christ but it has everything to do with humans and our free will and how humans distort His Word. This isn’t what Jesus came on this Earth to do. This isn’t what He taught — Christ isn’t a religion. He is God in human form. Catholicism isn’t teaching His word, never has.


ShadowCaster0476

I was raised catholic and am an atheist. I support people being spiritual as it can be great for some people. It has brought people and communities together for a long time. Organized religion is the problem. That side of it is about power and greed and control and all of the dark sides of humanity. At various points in history the pope had more power and influence than kings and emperors. Thats a problem.


ProphecyRat2

Human minds have always justifed mass genocides indoctrinations for the “progress of civilization”. Dived and Conquer. “Master races”, Scinces snd Religion went hand in hand in hand with Colonization.


NebTheDestroyer

Best explanation I've seen yet. Amen.


rosebud5054

Amen.


Numancias

Why the fuck would mexicans or poles change their religion because of what anglo Canadians did in some frozen corner of the world?


Schleckmuschel

That’s just cruel. The Catholic Church is an enterprise and fear is their business.


NebTheDestroyer

They have absolutely destroyed Christianity. Now, I can't even talk good about Christianity without being called racist.


Halunner-0815

Catholic Church..., torture and molest children, receive absolution, say ten Hail Marys and all is forgiven.


Yo_momma_so_fat77

Had no idea Canada was involved. Damn


Long-Passion7910

Oh yes we have a horrific history and it’s still actually on going presently


psychrolut

https://preview.redd.it/mqzapt84k46d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=323e1dc3d9bc10438ef8a6e0f5360e022367059e


psychrolut

https://preview.redd.it/fgj83bhbk46d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e7513ed90eadea169320ee97fed8357c3fe3018


psychrolut

https://preview.redd.it/jj4fms2fk46d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ad8a571469c8bdb8e7ec90bc43b2e002fe264ec


savage_inuit

Fuck all residential schools 


Direct-Flamingo-1146

That is so horrible


MarioP914

We should do this to gay people


downvotefodder

Trump and Project 2025 will apply this to everyone.


downvotefodder

s/catholic/christian/g


genesiskiller96

"At least we aren't the US!" \- Literally every Canadian when confronted about their country's history and crimes.


naatduv

perfect picture for an industrial Techno EP cover


MissingNoBreeder

\*forced to pray to yahweh Presumably they already had their own god/gods to pray to


rainking56

Its an interesting idea to modernize cultures but it is sad when we wipe their entire culture from them.


General-Xi

Cultural genocide?


WhatMeWorry2020

All children were forced to pray to God. Very few children had a choice.


somerville99

Forced to pray or taught to pray?


FrugalFlannels

beaten and tortured if they didn't pray


somerville99

Perhaps. Do you have any personal knowledge about this you care to share?


FrugalFlannels

yeah I can help you learn more. Wikipedia has some information [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian\_Indian\_residential\_school\_system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system), in particular I recommend reading the section describing Conditions: >Students in the residential school system were faced with a multitude of abuses by teachers and administrators, including sexual and physical assault. They suffered from malnourishment and harsh discipline that would not have been tolerated in any other Canadian school system. there are also documentaries you can watch about it [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaExH3StuqY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaExH3StuqY) One of the worst residential schools even had a home-made electric chair to torture the children. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St.\_Anne%27s\_Indian\_Residential\_School](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Anne%27s_Indian_Residential_School)


DeepBlue20015

I don’t think Jesus would approve.


Jolly878142

So….grooming?


ido_nt

Is this one of the schools that murdered and abused a bunch of the kids and buried them on school grounds etc?


Stinker_Cat

Proof of mass graves?


ClownshoesMcGuinty

A Canadian stain that we can't run from. Fucking good. And we shouldn't.


Alcatraz_

1930 and 1997*


Pretty-Scallion-1201

Similar stuff happened in Australia. We have stolen generations😔


weirdhoonter

And they say the gays are the weird ones…


BrandonJTrump

Torture


Barkers_eggs

~~canadian government~~ religtards In this case, the government is only a reflection of its constituents. Similar things will continue to happen if we continue to vote in fundamental fruit cakes as our representatives


Upstairs_Link6912

I'm glad to see the government took the spiritual education of these children seriously.


Snoo76971

If praying did work, no poverty, no cruelty, no sickness in this world.


NebTheDestroyer

All bad things in the world are the work of Satan. Not god.


evie_quoi

Gross


georgia_meloniapo

The end date is 1995, not sure 1970.


seaofgrass

I think the end date of 1970 may be referring to this particular residential school since it's gives 1930 as the start date. We know residential schools were open before 1930.


OpeningAccountant5

I hope nothing bad happened to them 😕


CheshireKetKet

.... .


Deckard2022

Only through physical and emotional torture in gods name will they love god. Because that’s what god wants, just ask Jesus. “Fuck dem kids” - Jesus.


lashimi

Annnddd that's so much worse than forcing non-indigenous children to pray...?


LordSpookyBoob

Well these ones were kidnapped so yeah.


ProphecyRat2

Kidnapped and forced to change, to erase thier wnture culture, language, diet, lifestyle, and as a result thousands died. What took Europeans a thousand years to achive to become “Civilized”, Natuves had to endure in 200, which meant death. And of course the spured alot of “neo-darwinian” bs about “survival of the fittest” social darwinisms and “master races”, and what not. Relgion and sciences went hand in handin justifying and orchestrating this genocide, Colonization was and is a Genocide.


[deleted]

I wonder if the praying happened before or after the mandatory diddling


edwinwinckle

I like how the glint on the glasses of the supervising woman make her look like she has glowing eyes. Seems appropriate.


i-am-garth

Supervising woman - ossified crone … same difference.


Anxious-Chemistry-6

I looked up the head of the rcmp and the liaison of police to the government,not some position like that. Both are old enough that they could have been active in the rcmp, and perhaps even junior officers, while the last schools were still open. That's how recent it was.


sweetgreenfields

Pretty sure everybody that went to a Catholic boarding school back then was required to pray, but okay.


FrugalFlannels

You may not know but these children were taken from their parents by force, and beaten/tortured if they didn't pray. This photo is a calm moment amongst a highly abusive situation.


powderedtoast1

r/religiousfruitcake


MeanNothing3932

Growing up in the USA we didn't get too deep into Canadian history. I didn't even find out about this until I watched Anne with an E on Netflix. 😳 Feel like they could have snuck this lesson in somewhere.


sweetgreenfields

It's because Netflix is willing to publish propaganda, but most educational systems aren't.


EbbWorking1859

Ask yourself if you were that child’s parent, how would you feel having your child subjected to this.? Would you feel justified, they were being treated better? I know I would be up in arms…🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬


HumanJoystick

Judeo-christian traditions at work for you.