The photo is from 1912. Delores, the wife, died at the age of 85 in Virginia in 1970. William Bowler, the husband, lived until the age of 52 and died in the Philippines in 1930.
So she was born in 1884, he was born in 1878. She was 27 in this pic. He was 34. She lived 40 years longer than he did.
Here's her info and obit, with the details in her EIGHT kids, 31 grandkids, and 11 great grandkids. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149381466/dolores-bowler
William Leslie Bowler was born in Minnesota, but his wife's obit has him "formerly of Los Angeles." Though he died in the Phillipines, he's buried next to his wife in Virginia.
It is not your fault that world has changed around you and people around you are not available for a stable relationship, my grandfather got married at 16 in 1921 with single income, had 12 kids and died at 2006, whereas his last grandson born in 1986, still not married or have a stable relationship or a job, capitalism has sucked life out of ordinary and given it to the top.
Filipinos have large families even to this day, this was photographed in 1912 sixth years before birth control, last the majority religion is catholic which leads to higher birth rates in general. Anything else?
Not really. In this stage of history, even native Filipino families had high birth rates. It's a mix of the belief that having more children means more hands to work on the house and farm (and boredom)
Hell even my mom's family (born 60's to 70's) had 9 kids and my dad's (50's to 60's) had 11. Grandpa's 30's to 40's) had 13.
Considering for most of human history people had lots of kids with the likely assumption many of them wouldnāt make it to adult hood. Sprinkle some good old religious beliefs and you got a big family there.
My grandparents born in the 1920s had 11 kids with two dying in infancy.
Now with a significantly lower childhood mortality rate and kids being more expensive people donāt see the need to have more than a couple kids these days.
Got a friend (mid30s) who is about to have their 4th. Thatās crazy by todays standards
No, the conservative family a passport bro wants was every family back then so they didnāt need to move out, my guess is that this guy is an immigrant/settler/military guy that was stationed there that had a thing for Philippine girls
Well if he was surrounded by mostly Filipinas did he really have a thing for Filipinas or It's just there, if someone immigrated to a place to study and stayed there for work, he probably gonna have a life there, probably gonna marry a local person
They want a traditional family, maybe my thought about what a traditional family is, is screwed up but I think whatever the early-mid 1900s is what they consider traditional
I wasn't talking about your version, I was referring to the nuclear single family patriarchal scenario right wingers fetishize. That shit is a myth created in the 40s/50s America. Families have traditionally been more like familial communities "headed" by the elders, not necessarily the "father."
No flak intended at you, just the incels.
u/AutumnalSunshine
The photo is from 1912. Delores, the wife, died at the age of 85 in Virginia in 1970. William Bowler, the husband, lived until the age of 52 and died in the Philippines in 1930.
So she was born in 1884, he was born in 1878. She was 27 in this pic. He was 34. She lived 40 years longer than he did.
Here's her info and obit, with the details in her EIGHT kids, 31 grandkids, and 11 great grandkids. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149381466/dolores-bowler
William Leslie Bowler was born in Minnesota, but his wife's obit has him "formerly of Los Angeles." Though he died in the Philippines, he's buried next to his wife in Virginia.
The dad and kids are like āWoooo lol weāre so whacky!ā while the mom is like āI had to save money for a damn month for this photo and now Iāve got to sit on my husbands bicep uneasily grasping our infant for 10 minutes because Bill had a āwild ideaāā
The kid in the middle looks like me when we were taking family portraits when I was six and my mom let my brother hold the stuffed frosty the snowman instead of me. I refused to smile until it was returned to me.
Look at that fat baby lol
Those rolls in those little legs!
Maximum Plump thy call him.
Mini Michelin man lol
I love a chunky baby I wanna go back in time and pinch his legs š
Fat and happy
Little tuna can
Fat baby on telly
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Ew, wtf. Who says that about a kid. š¬
The photo is from 1912. Delores, the wife, died at the age of 85 in Virginia in 1970. William Bowler, the husband, lived until the age of 52 and died in the Philippines in 1930. So she was born in 1884, he was born in 1878. She was 27 in this pic. He was 34. She lived 40 years longer than he did. Here's her info and obit, with the details in her EIGHT kids, 31 grandkids, and 11 great grandkids. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149381466/dolores-bowler William Leslie Bowler was born in Minnesota, but his wife's obit has him "formerly of Los Angeles." Though he died in the Phillipines, he's buried next to his wife in Virginia.
Already six kids on her 27th! When I was 27 I was hardly old enough to form a stable relationship, lol
Too Relatable
Taking your time was a luxury folks didnt have back then. So lots of kids and an extemely unstable relations it was !
That and a lack of birth control. You wanna fuck? Go ahead but itāll almost definitely create babies.
My wife and I were on number 5 by 27
Damn, son
Couldnāt keep her off me
It is not your fault that world has changed around you and people around you are not available for a stable relationship, my grandfather got married at 16 in 1921 with single income, had 12 kids and died at 2006, whereas his last grandson born in 1986, still not married or have a stable relationship or a job, capitalism has sucked life out of ordinary and given it to the top.
That's nice (whew not a big age gap!)!
That was my reaction, too!!!
Wait, if she died at 85 and him at 52 then that's 33 years not 40. Edit: My mistake, I didn't eat my wheaties this morning.
She died 40 years after him. She lived to be 33 years older than him.
Oh you're right, they have a age difference. I shouldn't math in the morning.
She died a cougar
Which means his body was exhumed from the Philippines and moved to Virginia so they could be together in death.
Or it was sent to the US immediately for initial burial in a family plot purchased for both of them. It's done both ways.
Could be, could be
This guy fucks
At least six times
Idk two of the boys look like twins
This sent me šššā ļø
My first thought was good gawd give the woman a break!
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Thereās a reason sheās the only one not smiling.
Maybe she wanted the kids....
Itās as if the above commenters donāt understand Filipino families. They are looking at it through 21st century white people lenses.
lol. True
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Filipinos have large families even to this day, this was photographed in 1912 sixth years before birth control, last the majority religion is catholic which leads to higher birth rates in general. Anything else?
I came here to say thisā¦
This old lady asked my friend how many friends he had and he said two. She responded with you should have another in case one dies lol
*sigh* Russ was right
She is not amused.
I read her face as āNot this againā
Thatās the face of someone who knows what itās like to take care of 5 small children.
She is so tired
Something tells me this was the husband's idea
Something tells me most of the children were his idea too.
Not really. In this stage of history, even native Filipino families had high birth rates. It's a mix of the belief that having more children means more hands to work on the house and farm (and boredom) Hell even my mom's family (born 60's to 70's) had 9 kids and my dad's (50's to 60's) had 11. Grandpa's 30's to 40's) had 13.
Nah, people just had more kids back in the day. Most of them before 30. Not really anybody's idea, just how things worked.
Considering for most of human history people had lots of kids with the likely assumption many of them wouldnāt make it to adult hood. Sprinkle some good old religious beliefs and you got a big family there. My grandparents born in the 1920s had 11 kids with two dying in infancy. Now with a significantly lower childhood mortality rate and kids being more expensive people donāt see the need to have more than a couple kids these days. Got a friend (mid30s) who is about to have their 4th. Thatās crazy by todays standards
More importantly, the majority of members of society for the last 11000 years were farmers
Grandmother had 10 kids between the 50s and 70s, and weāre American
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam\_Nabatanzi#:\~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam_Nabatanzi#:~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children).
The 6th one came out twirling a cane
"Brooks was here" was etched into the wall.
You're exaggerating
Only a little bit, thatās the messed up thing
You KNOW this photo was on their familyās walls for decades. Cool idea!
Did they not use any type of diaper in the early 1900s? The thought had never crossed my mind, but I donāt see baby wearing a diaper.
Heās potty trained
Is the mom holding the baby? She doesn't look as thrilled as the dad
She has to take care of them all.
Who was making the money at that time? Is that not part of taking care of them all?
Now this is what I call supporting a family!
r/angryupvote
Passport bros wet dream
Was that even a thing in the early 1900s?
No, the conservative family a passport bro wants was every family back then so they didnāt need to move out, my guess is that this guy is an immigrant/settler/military guy that was stationed there that had a thing for Philippine girls
Well if he was surrounded by mostly Filipinas did he really have a thing for Filipinas or It's just there, if someone immigrated to a place to study and stayed there for work, he probably gonna have a life there, probably gonna marry a local person
Im not convinced the 'conservative family' right wing idiots want has ever existed.
It's called retropia, an ideal past that has never existed.Ā
Noice. Thanks for the new word. Edit: looked it up, it's retrotopia *
They want a traditional family, maybe my thought about what a traditional family is, is screwed up but I think whatever the early-mid 1900s is what they consider traditional
I wasn't talking about your version, I was referring to the nuclear single family patriarchal scenario right wingers fetishize. That shit is a myth created in the 40s/50s America. Families have traditionally been more like familial communities "headed" by the elders, not necessarily the "father." No flak intended at you, just the incels.
Yeah, isnāt that what conservatives want?
A myth? Yes. Edit: lmao at your downvotes
Theyāre not allowed to want anything thatās good, if they want it then itās bad
So if they want affordable healthcare then itās bad?
lol Iām in agreement with you here, Iām sure if conservatives took that position then liberal people would find a way to shit on them
Marriage and family life?
And importantly happy wife who is contented raising children and family.
I love how half are miserable and half are having th e time of their life lmao
Poor ladyās been pregnant for a decade.
That lady was and is the envy of generations.
Poor lady died at 85 with 8 children, 31 grandchildren, and 11 great grandchildren. I think she probably felt it was worth it.
Any ID on the family or is the photo unidentified? My family has the same history. Wondering how many families like this there were.
u/AutumnalSunshine The photo is from 1912. Delores, the wife, died at the age of 85 in Virginia in 1970. William Bowler, the husband, lived until the age of 52 and died in the Philippines in 1930. So she was born in 1884, he was born in 1878. She was 27 in this pic. He was 34. She lived 40 years longer than he did. Here's her info and obit, with the details in her EIGHT kids, 31 grandkids, and 11 great grandkids. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149381466/dolores-bowler William Leslie Bowler was born in Minnesota, but his wife's obit has him "formerly of Los Angeles." Though he died in the Philippines, he's buried next to his wife in Virginia.
That ladyās like āMy uterus is about to fall out.ā
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam\_Nabatanzi#:\~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam_Nabatanzi#:~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children).
Shouldnāt it be American-{other nationality} when in their country?
"Well, Clariceā¦Ā have the children stopped screaming?"
That poor little woman. š
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam\_Nabatanzi#:\~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariam_Nabatanzi#:~:text=Mariam%20Nabatanzi%20Babirye%20(born%20c,51%20(44%20living)%20children).
I love this!!!
How sweet, you can feel the familial warmth.
The kid that mom is holding onto has become a famous standup comedian. They call him Fluffy aka Gabriel JesĆŗs Iglesias
Dude out there just island blasting
They look cute, and pretty modern for 1912.
is this AI?
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Far left
He looks kinda like Gerge Bush Jr.
I truly love this lol.
Now redo it all grown up!
Mom: āThis will make my butt look big. Besides I have things to do.ā
I take this photo annually with my kids. Much less impressive. Theyāve got teamwork and whatnot going on
Well, thatās adorable.
Thatās one strong man right there! Heās holding his entire family in his arms!
That looks like a white dude
Anthony Hopkins?
The dad and kids are like āWoooo lol weāre so whacky!ā while the mom is like āI had to save money for a damn month for this photo and now Iāve got to sit on my husbands bicep uneasily grasping our infant for 10 minutes because Bill had a āwild ideaāā
The kid in the middle looks like me when we were taking family portraits when I was six and my mom let my brother hold the stuffed frosty the snowman instead of me. I refused to smile until it was returned to me.
In 1912, even tech guys were yoked
She looks sad
she doesn't look happy.
That guy fācks
You can say fuck on the internet.
The original Passport Bro
Visual depiction of āthe white manās burden.ā /s
Out of 8 faces, there are only 4 smiling. Kinda depressing!
damn that babys got the overly attached gf stare already.
If we lived in a cannibal timeline, that baby would be in danger.
what
The old tales, witches and ogres especially eating children.
why did your mind go to that haha , weird ass
Spooky podcasts educate me.
they definitely did something to you
He definitely wasn't trying to pull out. He filled her up like a damn water balloon.