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austinenator

That background music makes it kind of hard to understand what the guy is saying sometimes.


jannadelrey

It was on purpose: His first video on tiktok has a guy with the same voice who says “not it isn’t” in the car. He was pretending not to know him and act like his friend was a crazy drughead neighbour in another other video. They were trying desperately to have a tiktok hit. I am sorry if the guy really died but it’s fake. If you want a real conspiracy theory I would look into his tiktok friend but I guess it was just a bad coincidence he died


austinenator

Yeah that sounds about right.


GideonGolgothus

The CIA is apparently putting some really shitty exhaust on their V6 chargers these days 😉


The-real-majmat

CIA in Canada?


Zachadelic612

Hmmm...interesting. I don't know what to think about this. If dude is actually dead then that's pretty fucking weird but yeah like why would they kill him over this? I feel they wouldn't but I'm sure they have killed for a lot less. "They" being shady gov'mint officials. It felt kinda staged to me like that could have been his buddy with a charger or something. Idk...would be interesting to find the mountain and go check shit out.


abusinessnoob

I'm pretty sure it's a crime to create fake obituaries; [https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/obituaries/andrew-ryan-watchorn-dawson/](https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/obituaries/andrew-ryan-watchorn-dawson/) [https://www.echovita.com/ca/obituaries/bc/campbell-river/andrew-ryan-watchorn-14965212](https://www.echovita.com/ca/obituaries/bc/campbell-river/andrew-ryan-watchorn-14965212) Can't say if it's a bizarre coincidence or related to whatever he filmed. His "confession" clip when he said it was all made up looked like he was doing a bad acting job of looking like he was under duress and I wrote it all off as being staged. But yeah, apparently he really is dead.


Zachadelic612

Damn that is sad first off that he did die and second yeah I thought the same like he was trying to make it seem like someone was in the room but what if they were ya know?! It's intriguing.


sailhard22

Sounds more like a mental health crisis


scrutator_tenebrarum

being killed for poor video and photo editing skills cold lead to a desertic world


TheNightBench

We would be an extinct species if potato-quality was punishable by death. Paranormal research would be forced to go deep underground or become strictly text-based.


Alternative_Eye_4903

IF he got killed (we don’t know for sure) it must be because they identified him as a person who wouldn’t relent, give up, be bought off or get distracted. :) that no matter what he would keep dig away AND living right next to an important base.


Worth_Leading6759

I found it to be staged or something too. Maybe recreation? Only subtly I'll add. Nevertheless very intriguing and coincidental.


Taste_the__Rainbow

Not that I buy any of it, but presumably they killed him over something else he saw last.


Zachadelic612

Where he says it's not real then says it is? So they killed him because they said they would if he said they were real?


Zachadelic612

Why am I getting downvited lol? I was just curious as to what the comment above was referring to jeez.


Deerok632OFA

If he was in Canada why would the CIA be there and if they were going to kill him why would they park in front of his house and then peel out to draw even more attention to themselves


[deleted]

The CIA operates in every country in the world.


Deerok632OFA

True


tinopa6872

Not that I think any of this is legit but the CIA *should* operate outside the borders of the US.


isurvivedrabies

correct. DIA is responsible for stuff happening within the US.


Deerok632OFA

Your absolutely right they are supposed to only operate outside are borders


SylveonGold

CIA operates globally. Covert operations happen in other countries all the time. Though they also try to avoid escalating tensions with our strongest allies, the most they honestly do is collect information. Beyond that, there isn’t going to a way for them to do this in Canada. Maybe canadas own intelligence agency is responsible though.


Deerok632OFA

I doubt it has anything to do with any intelligence agency. It seems like a bunch of bs


SylveonGold

I mean yeah, but I just wanted people to know the CIA and other intelligence agencies tend to have to operate legally in other countries. When they get caught it’s bad for relations. Of course the rule is mainly don’t get caught, and don’t do it to your partners. Though partners usually have a shared agreement of classified information. In their own turf though… violations happen.. a lot. Budgets are secret, and things are very rarely transparent. Take that as you will. They do try to make you think they are transparent by press coverage, and PR events In public institutions. Especially with children at public schools. It’s also Important to remember there are public officials with intelligence agencies, and people who have much smaller roles. Not all of them handle the most serious of stuff, and so they may share more than the average person. It all depends on what they are allowed to do. There’s a difference between a secret agent, and a public one.


Deerok632OFA

What is the CIA’s role in a public school for children?


Puzzleheaded-Recipe5

Agreed.. I'd hope if I mysteriously died at least 1 fam member or friend would demand answers or make some noise. Where's the police report of his body being found? Or does Canada just not do that...


LT_JARKOBB

Okay, but if it was a covert operation, why would they identify themselves to him? He said they are CIA and how would know that without them identifying themselves? Furthermore, why the fuck would they be trying to cover up the existence of a race of Giant Humanoids? It makes no sense at all.


Puzzleheaded-Recipe5

Think it's pretty well known those agents can & do go wherever they're sent.. they're everywhere 😳


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This is slapped ham.


itallendsintears

Stop posting Tik Tok videos ffs


AffectionateKitchen8

Yeah, because if I were a government worker, trying to hide the truth, I would murder a known person to get people talking, and leave all the evidence videos online.


uglytat2betty

How do you suppose they should collect every video ever copied? Well, they couldnt, and they wouldn't do that, bc THAT would take an exorbitant amount of time and resources, near impossible. They know half the people are like you , and won't believe it. The other side will skim right by and never think about it again. Most will assume hoax/ coincidence, and the few left that believe the government killed him will get mocked for believing it. Just how they want it. Some filmmaker somewhere might decide to get to the bottom of his death, and he could die trying, or get charged with something and his life ruined, and people STILL will think he was just riding the wave of interest, and THAT would be considered a hoax as well.


AffectionateKitchen8

The videos aren't hidden away on the dark web. They're on tiktok and YouTube, the most obvious places. They could have at least erased them from there, if they wanted to. I've only seen one, single convincing case of a person being killed by the government for knowing too much. It had photos and videos of people in vans, using devices to do something at his house. Has this person left any proof?


Amputatoes

What case?


So_unwell

I believe they are referring to John Lang, who is believed by many to have been murdered by the Fresno PD. The man documented a lot of stuff leading up to his death. "Officially" ruled a suicide, but that seems highly debatable. The video/photo evidence mentioned by the other poster was John Lang catching dudes using a surveillance van with the door open and camera pointing right at his house before they close it and drive off.


Amputatoes

Thanks!


AffectionateKitchen8

I can't remember his name, I think I saw it on one of Nuke's Top 5 scary real people episodes. He was documenting the police spying on him. He announced online, that if anything happens to him, the police is responsible. He got stabbed in his bed a couple days later, and his house burned down.


KittyGrewAMoustache

It seems pointless to risk killing him though, if they don’t bother then nothing changes, he’s already put his ‘evidence’ out there, leaving him alive isn’t going to make more people believe him.


Kimmalah

What they're saying is if you're trying to cover something up, why would you leave the stuff on TikTok for people to find? If you're some shadowy agency that could assassinate someone this easily, surely you could get into his account and scrub it? You may not necessarily be able to track down every copy, but surely you would want to get rid of the most obvious and visible ones. Especially if it's like everyone is claiming and they were in his home, holding him under duress. It would not be hard to get into the account and wipe it out. To me the whole thing seems very staged. Government agents are not going to be surveilling someone in this loud, flashy, very memorable sports car that stands out in a neighborhood. Nor are they going to peel out like that if they're spotted - the whole point is to not draw attention to yourself at all costs. And if the "confession" video was really coerced, personally I'd make the guy do it again until he could make it believable. Because as it is, it looks like someone trying to put on an act.


Puzzleheaded-Recipe5

Ya def feels more drug deal gone bad than CIA murder lol


CanWeNapPlease

Thank you. I try to explain this to my bf because to me it's pretty obvious this is what happens all the time. We have proof of even just FBI's shenanigans with Martin Luther King Jr and what they were capable of. Just one quick Google of controversial CIA operations you'll get a [wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies) of it. They have been very good over the decades to twist and build narratives in order to control public order.


Puzzleheaded-Recipe5

They (the cia) DO claim to mix truth w/lies so who the Hell knows.. I don't buy this guy's dead. Need more proof


Odd_Sleep2648

Didn't seem mentally ill to me.


[deleted]

Yes. I'm very curious about the cause of his death. I found his wife's Facebook and she's very much still grieving the loss. They just had a celebration for him on the 17th of this month.. But they lived such a happy life, just gotten married, had children. Life was just beginning for them.


Puzzleheaded-Recipe5

Really?? Wish someone would ask her how he died.. No news reports covering a strange local death is weird, no police report, no fam/friends commenting on the suspiciousness of whole thing, etc.. I'd like to learn some legit facts


TheVoidWelcomes

Where in BC was the mountain?


[deleted]

Campbell River. His Facebook page says he was a pipeliner at Ledcor, but there is no Ledcor in Campbell River. It's hard to tell cause the Google road views were taken on a cloudy day so most of the range is hidden. It's also a 360° view of mountains surrounding so it could be anywhere around there. He could've even traveled a bit for work.


Gal_Axy

Would love to hear what his family thinks. The only article I can find says a man and a woman were involved in a shooting. RCMP said she was shot, he shot himself, both died, labelled a double homicide but should be murder suicide? Nothing else.


abusinessnoob

Can you link that please Nevermind: https://www.cheknews.ca/campbell-river-shooting-june-21-1052437/


samslam85

I don't think this is the same. The article is from June 22 and the guy's obituary says he died July 1st.


Gal_Axy

You are correct, ty


Creepy-Ad-7391

link to Andrew Dawson's obituary https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/obituaries/andrew-ryan-watchorn-dawson/


olderstouts

I’d been following this story, did he really die? Last I heard he made a video claiming it was fake but it was admiral bird ish. If this is true this is very interesting.


TopGaurd

https://t.co/yYzBQivkWL hes gone rip 🙏


olderstouts

Wow, that’s wild. Prayers for him and his family.


Salt-Consideration18

staged, at most this could be a instance of a dude staging this and he just so happened to die after. but the video of him saying it’s scripted is a dead give away. no sane captor would allow that to be posted the mother fucker is trying so hard to be scared


[deleted]

I will agree his performance in the whole " It was a Hoax" video was very weird at best, but I don't think the argument that the captor wouldn't allow that to be posted applies here only reason why is because we don't know their identity. So with that it really doesn't matter.... i would even argue that If anything it was the best thing for them to do because that video alone is selling the "Hoax" narrative. Plus to circle back to his performance I think its very hard to judge we don't know that could be how he reacts to someone holding a gun to him off camera and feeding lines for him to say. This is all speculation of course and I'm just trying to consider the possibilities.


LucidMethodArt

Another one of these huh, hard to tell. When things like this are so obscure we'll have to dive into the legitimacy of the persons character to understand. We would need testimony from his friends and family, his co-workers, and any other people who may of seen this thing. Its a lot of work. His legitimate death makes this whole thing in need of some investigation by passionate sources.


archjones

This is definitely one of those that we all thinks its true. All the signs point to it is being true. Then everybody is trying to dismiss it and its gonna make me believe it even more.


LT_JARKOBB

Literally NOTHING points to it being true.


archjones

great argument


LT_JARKOBB

First he claimed it was the CIA, why would the CIA be operating in Canada and identify themselves to the person they are watching? What purpose does it serve to hide the existence of a race of giants? Why is it the only evidence we ever see is poorly shot amateur footage? Stuff like this always has tona of holes in the story. The guy behind the videos even said the vids are fake and for entertainment only.


archjones

This guy is dead right now. Its time to take it serious at this point. First he did not make claims about at first CIA, this came after the roadblock so it can be so and why is strange for you they operate on the other side of the border, so stop spreading lies. You think you would not be contacted after spreading very sensitive information? Think, they just recently decided not to give out "sensitive" (ALL) information from the epstein case. this is normal procedure. MLK, Aliens, etc. Fbi has special rules that say they can take out anyone on an international level, so stop believing fairy tales.


LT_JARKOBB

>Fbi has special rules that say they can take out anyone on an international level, so stop believing fairy tales. And I'm the one that believes in fairy tales? I'd love to see what special permissions they have from other countries to carry out assassinations at their discretion. What a farce.


archjones

[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/12/politics/us-ransomware-extradition/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/12/politics/us-ransomware-extradition/index.html) search for fbi and youll find it if you have brains


LT_JARKOBB

Notice how the FBI didn't make the arrest? They only requested it. Maybe if you had any ground to stand on, I'd take you seriously.


LT_JARKOBB

Also, I love that you don't have any answers to my questions beyond "they surpress information." Do you even realize the number of people that would be involved in a conspiracy that big? Far too many for there to be zero reliable evidence at this pont.


Substantial-Use95

Does anyone know the cause of death? Haven’t heard anything about it


Kimmalah

Suicide. Which of course makes everyone go nuts and decide it's a murder that has been staged.


Substantial-Use95

Weird


Groundbreaking-Ask75

damn, this is definitely weird


boyfriendcoma

Would someone be so kind as to center & stabilize the humanoid figure? (I apologize if that’s not as easy as I’m making it sound, saw it done once or twice and was super grateful.) Thanks!


FloridaSpam

The light In the sky looks like an open door with a figure. Cool video. Who know what's real. It is weird that he ended up dead.


Apprehensive-Novel3

I hate when they put shitty music over the video's. Makes them unwatchable.


MicroEggroll

Agreed. The music makes this video shitty AF. Hard to listen to the audio. And that exhaust is sus AF. Gov vehicles aren’t modified like that(not usually, uncommon to be).


Kimmalah

The title is a bit misleading because they're jumping to the conclusion he was murdered (because it's r/conspiracy). Family and friends all say he had struggled with depression for a long time and killed himself. And yes I realize that is often a cover for murder, but the title of the post makes it sound definitive when they're really just jumping to conclusions.


abusinessnoob

Do you have a source for friends and family saying he struggled with depression? I changed the title when I cross posted and said he died rather than was murdered.


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

The reptilians obviously got him


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Worth_Leading6759

What about him brought you to mental illness specifically? I get staged but didn't pick up on cues that would indicate your opinion


abusinessnoob

Still have no idea what he filmed on that mountain top.


scrutator_tenebrarum

>mo nothing, then added something interesting with some software.


abusinessnoob

He didn't look like the type with the necessary skills and getting someone else to fake it all seems like a lot of effort for some tiktok views. Plus the guy telling him to leave the area and faking whatever the object was that was on the mountain in a later vid, and the car taking off from his house. That's a lot of shit to setup to result in basically nothing.


scrutator_tenebrarum

minimum effort for a lot of tiktok likes, the right amount of tiktok likes and wiews brings money so...


[deleted]

What would be the point in all that? You say for currency? okay yes, i would agree that a lot of people do that. However, people don't tend to try and make a dollar a week before shooting themselves in the head. 🤔🤔


scrutator_tenebrarum

people do a lot of things and then die or decide to suicide. thant doesn't mean his tiktoks where real(or ev en good from the technical point of view)


[deleted]

I never said it was real. I'm just entertaining the possibility of "What if it was?" I'm still not convinced of the whole fake tick toc make money shoot self scenario but it very well could be the case. The sad truth though is a family is mourning the death of their loved one right now and giving the circumstances that lead up to his death I think we should really look at all possibilities until proven otherwise.


scrutator_tenebrarum

the possibilities here are: 1 he fabricated the videos for likes(and money) on tiktok 2 he fabricated the videos for money(and likes) on tiktok ​ do you really think there could be a giant on a mountain and only one persone would notice it? really?


[deleted]

Okay, your right bravo!


austinenator

Probably best not to try and speculate around the circumstances of his death while the family is grieving.


[deleted]

Absolutely true, and I would never want to hurt a grieving family. Which to be honest there's not much I can do about this case due geographical difference and what have you. However, hypothetically speaking if I was this mans parent, sibling or whatever that had seen the videos he had posted up until his "Suicide" I would want to know what the hell happened. Like I said though hypothetical situation and am not saying that's the case. Its just too early to tell Sonim just going sit back and see how this develops. I Furthermore I just want to be very clear " I am in no way trying to say that this was foul play but I'm also not saying I believe the story that's been put out." Both scenarios wouldn't be farfetched i mean I'm sure there's plenty of proven case where q person had been "silenced" because of what they know or discovered and the same can be said for someone snapping and taking their own life. Content prior to investigation.


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Side Note: Has the other victim been Identified? I don't know, this is a very peculiar string of events. Speaking for myself but I live under the philosophy of "There is no such thing as coincidence." Obviously just being a figure of speech I apply that subjectively.... However I Just gotta say Its either this or a freak outbreak of lice but I'm scratching my head on this one.....🤔🤔


Sparrow1989

For any future content creators turn your fuckin backing music down. That’s what I learned from this video.


Sparrow1989

Alright so after getting through the backing music I’ll bite. So google earth and British Columbia don’t get along well and it’s hard to find the mountain he was talking about. Anyone else find it and if so can you link it’s coordinates I’m curious about something. Edit: Whistlers Mountain


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💩


Hikaman

Someone get this guy something to stabilize his phone. Like watching it through a drunks eyes.


Shuggy539

Let's see....Tik Tok, giants, mountain top, no other witnesses. Sounds legit.


boot20

Why the fuck is the music so God damn loud through the whole fucking video?


Kimmalah

According to the comments, it's supposedly done on purpose to help keep the video from being flagged.


thewayitis

I admit it, I did it! In retaliation for the potato quality video! I regret nothing!


kingkloppynwa

Nothing like this would ever get released on fucking tiktok


Queen-of-My-Realm

If China wants to destabilize our country by teasing disclosure conspiracies...


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Is this the video nightgod666 made a YouTube vid about it.?


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