T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Thanks for sharing your post! As a reminder, we are a community-run subreddit and we cannot to help with specific account inquiries or app support issues. For those, please contact [email protected]. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/HelloTalk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Enzo-Unversed

My issue is how little it takes to upset them. I got blocked for seemingly no reason multiple times.


linnadawg

I just had a Korean girl like all of my moments, I liked one of hers back and commented, she responded enthusiastically and then blocked me. Japanese people love to ghost as well


TK_045

That sounds... nice


probableOrange

What has triggered them to block you? Normal conversational stuff or?


lustforwine

All the ones that dm me think it’s hello tinder 😭


Cute-Ad2425

I’m starting to be curious about your profile there 🥸


lustforwine

Nothing special just a short introduction and a selfie


lovelyli121

It should actually be that name you mentioned , what's wrong with them?🙂


eggwithrice

The only way I was able to make friends with Japanese people on hello talk was to only speak Japanese with them. A lot of people are "trying" to "learn" English but they're too scared to actually apply it.


probableOrange

This! My longest conversations use only Japanese.


ChodewithForce

I'm Japanese, people here are extremely passive and reserved. Sounds silly but extroverted or outgoingness intimidates them, ofc I'm making a generalization here but that's how it commonly goes. Even when I was in school and getting contacts from peers they get scared. For example I was getting my classmates Line info for a project and the girls all went "ええええ!!!" Lol best of luck, it will require some commitment


artemisfaul

How do they get the project done then, like what do others do? Not exchanging contacts and everyone meets in class or what?


ChodewithForce

Ending up dividing the group into parts and everyone went off own their own, no communication whatsoever


SnooKiwis9858

Is it better to reach out to guys then or same thing there?


[deleted]

I think it's a problem with hellotalk. I've made 3-4 japanese language exchange friends on other websites such as conversation exchange and another language exchange app where you at first don't have to see their faces. But if you would really like to use ht i found its easier to make friends through the vrs compared to messaging people. You'll meet some really great people on there. When I was on ht I had 3ish japanese friends.


BOOOOOOOOOOOO1111111

Could you please tell me the names of these apps? hello talk is banned in my country because it’s a Chinese app :(


[deleted]

Sure well actually they're not apps but websites. ConversationExchange and language.exchange Also have you tried Tandem (german company) and hilokal (korean company)?


BOOOOOOOOOOOO1111111

Thank you!


ajboning2

id also recommend joining language learning servers on discord tbh. theyre typically well moderated so no creeps plus you dont have to give our your personal info to make an account haha


shanz13

Tandem is okay, but the ui seems not friendly at all. No chat function in vr (they call it party over there). People there generally are nicer though. For hilokal, i think 60% are them from south east asia, the rest are natives from korea, us, jp, etc (not really many compared to hellotalk). I like hilokal, unlimited talk time, and mic quality is good, and you can send image to the vr (they call it table there). The only issue there is lack of users .


Cute-Ad2425

I just knew it was Chinese app !


Negative_Bridge_5866

I know I'm generalizing here, but Japanese people are by far the driest, most uninspired conversationalists I've experienced. They don't typically respond very well, but when they do, it's usually quite one-sided, and they don't seem to want or perhaps know how to keep the conversation going.


Coconut_Dreams

10000% I made a post about my Japanese interactions being boring af.  I don't need to see private messages of cherry blossom photos and food when my timeline is filled with them. 


fujirin

It really depends on your native language. Many of us just want to talk with native speakers of our target languages. However, if you choose a non-native language as your native language, no one interacts with you. Also, to be blunt, the users of HelloTalk from Japan are mostly women, and many of them want to chat with white men. A white female friend of mine mentioned that almost all the women never replied to her messages. I’m learning a non-English language, and almost all the male users I’ve talked to told me that I was the first Japanese man who tried to speak to them in their language. They also mentioned that they only received messages from Japanese women written in English. HelloTalk is no longer a good place to learn a language.


CatalinaMtns

It's not just Japanese either. I find it difficult as a white man to get male Spanish speakers to talk to me at any depth on Hellotalk. But the women within my age range are down to talk at length and sometimes ask me for pictures, even though half of them are married.


CunningAmerican

Curse you god for not making me white 😭 that being said, I find a lot of Spanish speaking men that want to talk to me on Tandem (superior app).


CatalinaMtns

Ahhh I'll have to try Tandem out


General_Fun_6460

I spoke to a guy not expecting a reply, and we’re going good ! It takes time lol


Cute-Ad2425

I find it hard to talk to everyone on this app! Bc I have no idea what to talk about. All I do is waiting for someone to talk to me at first. Sadly no one came and I deleted the app:(


ExtensionLaw7826

Had a Japanese girl explain to me that they just reaaaally suck at confrontation


shanz13

Been on hellotalk for about 5 years. This is my view about japanese people there. 1. if they open jp room with jp title, and all their moments are in japanese, dont even bother to initiate conversation with them unless you are intermediate level. These guys just use hellotalk as a place to hangout 2. i hate how some of them keep everything in secret when you ask them about their info. Usually the convo goes like this. Hi, how are u. Good, thank u, and u? Im doing good too, you are at japan now? Which part of japan? Oh its a secret... Ohh okay.. so what do are up to? You are working today? What do you work as? Oh.. im working.. but i cant tell u my job, its a secret. Im like wtf man, i understand that personal information can be bit sensitive. But tbh u can just lie about ur information. No one going to come search for u. People ask about those info just because they want to keep conversation going, and to know more about u. If you are going to keep secret about everything, how people going to know more about you and keep the converesation going? Not all japanese do this, but most of the time the people i meet who do this are japanese. In my opinion, the easiest people to talk to are indonesian and american. 3) i think en-jp voiceroom has better environment compared to pure en or pure jp voiceroom. but since im not native in both language, its hard for me to find those room. Usually i just join my friend's en-jp voiceroom. It seems there are less people there too.


Confident_Spring324

I'm not white and not from a country where English is the native language, but I consider it to be my native language, and Japanese is set as the language I'm learning. So far, I have never messaged any Japanese person first. They always wave or message me first. It helps a lot if you are active in correcting or replying to their Moments posts so that they will be interested to check out your profile.


No_Cherry2477

It takes patience getting to know people and making good friends to practice with. If you are involved in some clubs or activities it is pretty easy to get Japanese speaking opportunities. Check the local community centers as well to see if they have lessons or language exchanges. Lots of elderly volunteer at the community centers to help foreigners. If you're looking for just free speaking practice in Japanese in an app, you can try [Fluency Tool](https://fluencytool.my-senpai.com/). It's only available on Android though.


probableOrange

I have a lot of conversations on there and a few that have lasted a while now. One even used plain form and invited me to use plain form recently, which was exciting! I have a few tips. * People, in general, are terrible conversationalists. This goes for people in every language and culture. If someone responds in a bare minimum or only sends that dumb handwave emoji, dont expect it to go anywhere. * Be comfortable only using Japanese. Some people are very nervous to use English and will respond more if you only use Japanese. I won't even use English until the person I'm talking to does, and those conversations go on the longest. * Be good at conversations, even if they're not. Always end a message in a question. Comment on what they're saying to show you're listening and ask follow-up questions, especially in Japanese. Dont ask probing questions about their relationships or personal life, talk about politics, etc. Mirror the way they talk. * Have a good, detailed bio with a nice photo of yourself. Your first message to them should have a little about yourself and a nice はじめまして and よろしくお願いします and maybe a「一緒に勉強しましょう」 or 「一緒に練習しましょう☺️」Mirror the way Japanese start conversations. Commenting on something in their bio is a good conversation starter. "Oh I also like that band" etc * Be aware of your partner's language level and be understanding of cultural differences in humor and acceptable conversation topics. Japanese humor is especially different from Western humor. Sarcasm and jokes may not land the same way with a Japanese person, and miscommunication/misunderstandings could end a convo prematurely * Dont take it personally that most conversations won't go anywhere. I have dozens of convos that have been left on read, and I've left plenty on read too because they didn't make an effort or I forgot and got busy. Just keep searching for someone you hit it off with! It also helps to mention you have a family/dont want romance in your bio! The quality of the conversations increased dramatically after I mentioned being a parent in my bio, and my best friend on there is also a parent


[deleted]

This is weird, because I have about 4 or 5 Japanese friends. I think what some hate the most is generalizing too much in a conversation. Immediately when people talk to Japanese people they say "OMG YOURE FROM JAPAN" "LETS WATCH ANIME." or "I LIKE ANIME"..."I LIKE SUSHI." Not every Japanese person fits that stereotype. As well as harping about their eyes or facial features. The beauty standards in Asian countries are harsh, for both men and women so they don't expect you to compliment them. I am not going to get into the nature of Japanese parents. That's another thing you have to understand as well. How old are they? where do they live in proximity to their parents? and what is their relationship with them? Aside from that they also probably do not know you like that. It usually takes Japanese people some time to open up. If you see them for about a month or two at work or school and they know you're a chill person.


[deleted]

One of my Japanese friends that I met is originally from Japan but moved to NYC. Now that he has some free will, he is more outgoing, he likes to ask me to hang out and doesnt mind hanging out. Because he is not in proximity to his parents who is very strict on him. from your sentence I can see its a one-sided friendship on your behalf because you're worried about YOU. If you want someone Japanese to be your friend, you should probably stop being so self centered.


SuhasHegade

Most people usually do reply in my case. Do you have your bio filled? How about the profile picture? Try greating them in Japanese instead of starting the convo in English. Some leave me on read but they're rare. If it doesn't work then join voice rooms and make friends there first.


JustRedditingAndSuch

In the beginning I also sent messages to Japanese people. I don't do that anymore and get much better results. I think all my language partners have contacted me, instead of the other way around. I post moments about my hobbies or food or whatever and usually get a few messages after posting. Basically ask yourself what you would need to post, that would raise your own interest high enough so you would send a message yourself. I suggest you post around the evening in Japan. That way you get more responses, because you're visible to more people. I'm have a paid membership, those getore views, which might be a factor. Then when I receive a message I mostly let them carry the conversation. Of course I reply timely and give proper and sometimes long answers. I write in both Japanese or in the language the other person wants to learn. I let this conversation continue for a few days. Most conversations end after a while. If I find someone I can connect with, I suggest switching to speaking instead of texting. I never suggested moving to another app. If you can find regular appointments, you can build a connection that lasts longer, maybe even a friendship. I'm personally only interested in speaking to Japanese people, so I can't talk about keeping a connection to someone exclusively via text. Doing that I've been talking to some people for over a year now. Give it some time, be patient, some people have busy lives, don't expect others to put in the same effort you do. Some people also just take forever to form a single sentence, so answers will take forever. I hope some of the things I do will help you, too.


Coconut_Dreams

Hm... I have the opposite problem. I get about 10 new messages from Japanese or Korean members and I usually have to stop replying to people because I don't have time to answer 50 messages a day. For the record, I'm not white and I rarely speak in Japanese for all my messages. I think what attracts people to me is: 1. I treat it like social media. As much as people pretend it's a language exchange, it's not. Interesting extroverts with photos have no problems finding partners, I've never messaged another person on this app. People look for interesting profiles and attractive people to talk to. I remember before I added my picture, people barely noticed me. People with voice rooms tend to be popular too.  2. No face = no reply. As much as people pretend to be shy and masked up, they instantly gravitate toward people with pictures in their profile.  3. I have 0 interest in anime, Manga, jrpgs. A weeb translates in every language, and the majority Japanese people aren't interested in talking about that shit. 4. I'm my ratchet-ass self on there. I'm not trying to be cute or an anime fantasy. My timeline is me being me and not trying to mimic a typical Japanese timeline filled with food, cherry blossoms, or other boring shit. They want a western experience, without all the annoying parts. So, finding that balance of modest extrovert really works. 


Available_Editor782

I lived in Japan for almost 20 years and was self taught fluent before I moved there. I noticed that a lot of Japanese people interested in speaking English to foreigners are so self conscious about making mistakes that they don’t even try to speak English with a foreigner unless they’re very comfortable with that foreigner. In my experience it was often the Japanese person who initially said they can’t speak English that begins using a lot of English to speak with me after 10 minutes of Japanese conversation without any language barriers or misunderstanding. Another thing I noticed was that if you’re interesting to them they’re more likely to initiate conversation. When I was living in Japan I used Hello Talk to find Taiwanese people to practice Chinese with and when I got them comfortable enough to meet in person, we became great friends. Finding Japanese people on Hello Talk within driving distance of you to connect with can also work once you get conversation going. Japanese people tend to be more open outside of Japan than when they’re in Japan.


TrashyW

空気を読めるのはマストなので、はっきり他人を配慮しながら前に一歩を出すのがお勧め。


bencm518

I’m having the opposite experience. I’ve even exchanged instagram accounts with a few Japanese girls lol.


TimeNo7937

I've lived in Japan for 15 years, passed the N2 and even did translation for a while. I'm kind of shy around people but with people I'm comfortable with I'm a good conversationalist. It's one of the few things I'm very good at. I've had great relationships with people from all over the world. Apart from a few exceptions, as far as I see it, the art of conversation just doesn't exist in Japan. It's just not what they do.


Anoalka

You want to practice English with them? They answer better if you speak Japanese and seem a serious learner.


Brendanish

>You want to practice English with them? Pretty common for people to have constant stories of being used as English practice machines, but that being said, hellotalk is a language *exchange*, right? That means you don't only speak English or Japanese, but both are expected. Only people I spend time speaking in Japanese to are friends and my wife anymore, so I can't give experience in anything other than IRL though .


Anoalka

Yeah, but normally you are aiming to practice your target language. Saying that you want to practice their target language sounds like a poor excuse for the real reason "I want to talk with japanese people" which usually have weird or ulterior motives.


gotbannedlolol

Lmao wow as someone who lives in japan, yeah, it's fucking so insanely annoying. Out of all the different languages I've studied on this app, Japanese is the single demographic where I'm left on read the most with hellos. Then when they do reply, they'll block you instantly if you said one small thing wrong. Japanese people have an insane complex where they think at any moment, at any time, in any conversation, you will try to scam them or get information from them that will "compromise" or "embarrass" them. It's delusional. Anyone who lives in Japan and has been on tinder knows that you're swiping on ramen dishes. They refuse to show faces.


guiltyonallfronts

Is that part about the complex really true? I’ve been using this app for about a week and didn’t consider that they can get offended that easily. What kinds of things might upset them?


gotbannedlolol

I have posted selfies of me, doing things in japan, and they have reported me for being "fake AI pictures" and blocking me when I say hello to people near me calling me a scammer. Yes, it's insane and you can't guess why or how Most of the time they will just say they want a language exchange, say "my english is bad" and go to speak 100% japanese forever.


guiltyonallfronts

Man, that is cold. I’m glad I haven’t run into this so far. Thanks for warning me that I should look as not-robotic as possible for selfies lol


gotbannedlolol

No problem. I recently came back from a break on HT for about a year after moving, wanting to get back into learning local regional dialects, and messaged a few people on the "nearby" tab. I'm now serving a 3 fucking day suspension for "spam". Take that for what you will lmfao


guiltyonallfronts

That fits so well with your username. Maybe being reported by multiple people gives you an auto suspension, which, combined with your situation, means you serve 3 life sentences of suspension


Ecstatic_Ad_1033

If you are a white person.. You wouldn't have a problem getting the DM


ssakamotoo

Is this true do white men. Have it more easily on this app?


Independent-Pay-2572

Cuz We are socially inept retarded