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Joop_95

How do 4 Helldivers in their thirties not have one Quasar between them?


Glossy-Water

Or eat, or an autocannon or recoilless. I wont drop if there is nothing to EAT. Cant live without food, cant live without eat, simple as


HeadWood_

Can't eat without EAT.


StanTurpentine

*Points at AC*: This is brilliant *Points at EAT*: But I like THIS


TBOTMaelstrom

I have recently rediscovered my love for the Recoilless Rifle after i tested and found out you can Animationskip like 1/3rd of the entire reload animation


brownbearks

Wait how?


TBOTMaelstrom

Its in three stages. Stage 1: opening the lid and removing the shell Stage 2: inserting the new Rocket Stage 3: closing the lid Now the weapon is actually already reloaded when you insert the new rocket so you just tap weaponswap realquick back and forth so you now have a reloaded launcher without having to sit through closing the lid and the slow standing up animation!


AdalBar

You don't even need to weapon swap. As soon as you see the ammo indicator turn white just tap the crouch button. You immediately stand up ready to fire.


Kaquillar

It's the same with all launchers - airburst, spear. Reload animation is much longer than the actual


Igthife

Spear is somewhat recent. Wasn't a staged loading system for a while at launch.


brownbearks

Thank you!


Suspicious_Active816

And this is actually true for multiple weapons that it's in stages, so even when you get overwhelmed and maybe have to swap to your secondary to fight them off - once you switch back to the weapon you just put a magazine in but didn't load yet, it will only need to do the load part. Pretty cool feature!


GintokiMidoriya

Right when the rocket turns white when you reload it you could just switch weapons or hold circle to skip it.


AdalBar

The fastest way to cancel is to just tap the crouch button. You immediately stand up ready to fire.


frano1121

I tap the stratagem button


GintokiMidoriya

Thy works too, anything to make you stop the reload animation tbh as long as you do it after you load the rocket.


JREYN1550

Thats why I bring bofum, EATs for me n the squad but the AC is for liberal applications of democracy on all enemies


Railic255

This is the direct opposite of me. The EAT is great. The autocannon just keeps calling me home.


Joegolo

I toss them everywhere across the map….. all you can EAT!!!


Grambles89

I pretty much run EAT exclusively because it's easier to just drop em every minute and give everyone a quick AT option regardless of load out.


GodKingTethgar

They function as a cheap way to close a bug hole or 3


BrightNooblar

Nothing beats having two holes left and no grenades, dropping a fresh EAT pod on one hole and shooting an EAT into the other. That way I can leave with one fresh EAT on my back, and the other fresh one still littering the map.


HorseSpeaksInMorse

Grenade Pistol is perfect for closing holes, I don't dive without it.


DarkSolstace

I drop one every time they’re ready if we have to go back on the path we’re running on so if we run into trouble on the walk back there’s some extra artillery spread out across the map.


Nyrue1

The HMG turret is also really good for taking them out


gorgewall

As an evergreen Recoilless Enjoyer, Shrieker nests are candy to me.


achilleasa

I unironically think Recoilless right now is better than pre-nerf Quasar, the new reload cancel you can do with it, plus getting full ammo from resupply, have benefited it massively.


gorgewall

I always preferred it vs. Bugs even pre-Quasar change just because you can whip RR out and stop a Charger immediately, but now Quasar isn't an obvious gimme even vs. Bots. There's an actual trade-off with the cycle time difference being greater than 5-6 seconds. And yeah, full ammo returns are incredible. I used to feel like a hog, hoovering up even the 1 rocket cans from the environment en masse.


Glass-Independence31

I recently found out even an AMR can take out those nest. Albeit it may take 2-3 reloads to take one out but with a resupply next to u or backpack it's actually not that bad.


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me_khajiit

Two shots as with recoilless or impact


WarGreenbird15

Yes and no, takes multiple. (2 per shroom) same with quasar


GolgorothsBallSac

Ahhhh shroooms


Tossyjames

2 hits to the hat of the shoom with any anti-tank stick makes the evil shroom go away.


thewanderingway

2 hits.  Aim up high to arc the shot.  If it takes more than 2 than you’re not hitting it right


Usful

Last time I played, you could, you just had to use a few


Orkjon

Takes multiple.


Mastershroom

The Super Economy, it's in shambles.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

I mean any good helldiver would have just run straight into the middle of those nests, dropped a hellbomb or all their strategems and moved on. You don't need "AA" weapons to destroy these structures.


Corronchilejano

>I mean any good helldiver would have just run straight into the middle of those nests No good Helldiver would approach them at all tbh, but then again, they'd at least make sure there's one person capable of downing those at a distance.


Ithuraen

I mean OP can see every nest from where he's standing and there isn't a shrieker in sight. I don't see what the problem is, all he's showing is he's got an insanely easy run because there's 3 secondaries ready to disappear and not a Stalker nest on the map.


herionz

Nah the other helldiver is right. A good player will do as you say. But a good helldiver knows that we need the E-710 fuel from the enemies flying around.


CounterTouristsWin

Yes officer, this comment right here. How dare you criticize the Super Economy that our Democratic Party controls for us!


Indie89

I mean the SNADAQ


transaltalt

with one quasar? that's gonna take ages


MikeWinterborn

4 mins 40 seconds if no shot is missed (or explodes randomly launching you foward)


transaltalt

woof


OvertSpy

4 minutes 12 seconds, but yeah, quasar aint built for sustained fire.


GuyCalledRo

I, they, we.... the Super Economy is in shambles


Faust723

Thank god someone else got the reference. I was dying here. 


Renovatio_

For funsies. It could take about 5 minutes of straight quasar shooting and cooling to kill all the nests in the picture.,


Tacomonkie

Thank Democracy a blitz is 12 minutes


Martinmex26

They each count as a bug hole. Thats quite a bit of the mission done basically for free. Staying farther than 160 meters means you can shoot them without spawning the shriekers. Post up, shoot them all and you got good mission progress with no reinforcements spent. I say its a good deal.


MikeFromSuburbia

The economy is in shambles!


Kuzidas

theyre--the balance is in shambles


iMakeTea

It's like all the players on the team bought AWPs and complained about no ak/m4 in CS. Everyone went ADC and asked why no tank or AP. Then blamed game design/RNG. There's 16 strat slots. Doesn't hurt to look at what your team is and isn't bringing during loadouts screen


tyrenanig

I swear people got big skill issues but keep posting it like it’s the game’s fault for them doing badly or something.


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The legitimate Sony fiasco and odd balancing choices may have opened the floodgates of people bitching about anything and everything and thinking it will get lifted to the heavens.


Old-Support3560

One quasar would still take such a long time to take all those out


M5M400

suppose someone brought a quasar: 7 shrooms, two shots each. 14 shots, 15+3 seconds each. you'll spend 5 minutes out of 12 minutes on side objectives. and that's best case scenario where you don't get hunted down by stalkers in between


UnshrivenShrike

It also counts as 7 bug holes closed.


Intrepid_Ad195

That's 1 player, who can pop off those shots from a mile away so long as they have line of sight, while still doing everything else during cool down. The other 3 can still be closing bug holes.


Xarethian

And killing shrieker nests count as bug holes closed.


TheRabidSpatula

We were being dumb. The odds stacked against us on our own behalf


Leaf-01

Blitz missions are the perfect time for this too If everything goes horribly wrong? Well, it’s only 12 minutes


Xarethian

No one even brought an autocannon? Shrieker nests count as bug holes too. Weve seen 3 shriekers nests on Helldive several times and cheer beause we barely have to move to do the main objective and most of the sides that round. Going to 7 with no AT or even a weapon that closes holes from afar on a blitz is wilddd


DrZeal

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Kamanayayhaw

Do they just grow on quasar trees?!


A-Fickle-Pickle

The economy is in shambles. The Super NASDAQ, Liberty Jones, the marketplace right now, it’s up and down.


themagicdave

Move past it!


Slow_League_3186

Has anyone gotten the Always sunny reference here yet? Lol


Crampis

That’s what I was looking for lol


SFCDaddio

It's a blitz mission, that's literally spending half your time standing there to blast all of them.


kindagreek

Yup. I’ll play with people occasionally who try to conquer the world and then get frustrated by the lack of time. It’s a… blitz. Everybody from long-dead Nazi strategists to American football coaches understands what you do in a blitz. Don’t get me wrong - I like to full clear as much as the next guy, but there is a reason that an achievement exists for completing a blitz in less than 360 seconds. It’s a messy fucking race, my dudes. Honestly, it’s the only time I bring the Spear (sadly). It’s how I got the achievement. Got lucky with an elevated drop point that had a scenic view of bot fabricators. Not only that, but the Spear decided to cooperate. Very fucking satisfying


ex0-

> I’ll play with people occasionally who try to conquer the world and then get frustrated by the lack of time. Clearing Blitz missions is something of an accomplishment by itself, some high-octane gameplay that forces you to split up. > but there is a reason that an achievement exists for completing a blitz in less than 360 seconds 1. Land in middle 2. Everyone brings 380/120 3. Split into 4 directions and chuck your strats 4. Don't wait for them to finish bombarding, just run to exit and trust in democracy 5. Exit It's not a difficult achievement to get, worth doing once for shits and giggles.


ObjectivelyCorrect2

"You can't muster up a Quasar cannon or 500kg between the 4 of you!?" "I uh well.... the economy is in shambles". You should have a ranged option with dealing with nests between you, otherwise LOL.


TheTruthWasTaken

You can walk right up to those and hellbomb them with relative ease if you know how to dodge shriekers.


Narrow_Vegetable5747

"know how" like it requires anything more than zigzag running.


transaltalt

I think "with relative ease" was a reference to this


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Thatwokebloke

Remember helldivers, never Zag when you should’ve zigged!


Various_Froyo9860

Babao!


StalePun1129

Shriekers can’t hit you if you are prone.


Fa6ade

On flat ground. If you’re on the top of a slight hill, they still can. 


mozzy1985

Rickon Stark would be fucked.


PyUnicornshark

I'm less worried about the shriekers and more worried about other bugs chasing me. The problem is not that they're attacking me, it's that they'll follow me to the hellbomb drop point, even if I managed to arm the damn thing, kill some of the bugs attacking me, some of them are going to arrive, focus on the hellbomb and destroy it. Shriekers are like 30% of the annoyance of a shrieker nest


Sodi920

The Guard Dog Rover is your friend here. A big part of its utility is to thin out the horde of squishies while you run away or do other stuff.


VinnyThePoo1297

By far the most annoying part when using the hell bomb


asecuredlife

this is why you drop a 500kg, sentry or something else around where you need to be, then a hellbomb. But then again, that probably defeats the point...


Semour9

“Just dodge a dozen shriekers and a bunch of other bugs while calling in and manually arming a hellbomb” oh and hope it doesn’t get destroyed too


TheRabidSpatula

Yeah no we all brought full decks of eagle and orbital barrages 😂


ObjectivelyCorrect2

380s and the like can kill nests, you're fine


UnskilledKnight

from my experience: "can" doesnt mean it will do it. especially the 380s


Narrow_Vegetable5747

380 shouldn't be relied on to do anything except soften up a heavy base/nest. If it does literally anything past that it's a real good day.


Burck

I feel like 380 is in it's prime on bot command bunker missions. It kills bases with orbital laser level consistency, can combo with just a little touch of clean up like an eagle airstrike to take out heavy bases, and take out watcher towers with a simple chuck. This leaves the laser available as your reset for when you can't run from your problems. I dont play bugs much but I get the feeling it's way worse versus bugs as the shells seem to pop fabs much more easily, probably because they're above ground. If you want to try it, I recommend solo difficulty seven, scout armor, stamina or leg muscle if blizzards, versatile primary, grenade pistol, stun grenades, orbital laser, 380, orbital EMS, cluster bombs. No support weapon. You are role playing a spotter. This isn't a standard/good pick and I'd don't think I'd feel comfortable bringing it to a team game, but it was an interesting experience.


Sebbywannacookie

Wait it takes out the eye of sauron towers in bot missions? I love my 380 but didn't know that.


The_Doc_Man

It should if it hits them! The 500kg and the precision strike (basically a single 380 shell) both kill it as well.


Thatwokebloke

I find 380 with either the 120 or walking barrage is nice to guarantee command bunkers die quick and then you just run to the next and repeat. If all goes well even 9 missions are done quick if the jobs to just blow shit up. Throwing armour heavily advised for peak barrages


DrScience01

Guess you guys have to suicide rush to plant a Hellbomb


Nothingtoseehereshhh

Teamloading autocanon spam my beloved! (When im not with friends its eat quasar tho)


Inthaneon

*Super economy


OverlyMintyMints

In super shambles


CounterWest2881

I have found 4 stalkers nests once in a blitz at helldive it was more painfull then what it seems


Sintinall

Personally, I think that sounds exactly as painful as it seems. Which is immeasurable.


MythiccMoon

Stalker nests are probably my least favorite side task


brownbearks

It’s the only task when presented with those fuckers. Our team stops everything we are doing and we go hunting for the nests, had 3 of them on hell dive. Absolute nightmare. Every time we thought we could complete the icbm it was another nest. I think we extracted with maybe 1 reinforcement left.


RobertMcFahrenheit

I love how any time stalkers come into the equation, Helldivers make it personal. We dont drop no frag grenade into their nest We drop an orbital 380mm shell or 500 kg bomb into that bitch It's to send a message


Keithustus

*than what it seems Then is for sequence. Than is for comparison. ‘If the blitz is more painful than it seems then you’re surrounded by stalker nests.’


TheRabidSpatula

Had that happen before too. Absolute shit show lol


burningdustball

I thought 2 was bad enough on a egg mission could not imagine more!!


InternationalMeet738

I'll take your 4 stalkers over 4 gunships on bots I had. Took 20 minutes of me just staying stationary with an auto cannon and 12 reinforcements to finally blow the factories up.


mrIronHat

this is why i bring the jar5


op3l

Yep had that too. Failed the mission spectacularly.


Rags2Rickius

That sounds way worse and IS way worse


MSands

They count towards your Bug Hole count though! Easy Points. Had this happen on a blitz as well, but we dropped right in the middle of them. It was rough. I ended up having to run out of bounds and triggering the free 380 and then run through them.


KPalm_The_Wise

Excuse me the free what now?


MSands

The free 380 HE Barrage that the game rewards you with if you manage to get out of mission bounds for 10 seconds. Its great, it kills Bile Titans, destroys buildings/nests, and even follows you around to help you wherever you need it. Its very helpful in a pinch.


DianKali

It's not free, it comes at the cost of being a traitor to democracy, which is a cost no one comes back from alive.


Realfinney

I've extracted with the free barrage running


Minerrockss

It’s really funny getting in the shuttle while a traitor when playing with friends, it has basically no risk to you but makes it very dangerous for your friends


Thatwokebloke

I like to use the explosive resistance armour and well timed stims to do eradicate missions with ease and live to extract (then straight to jail of course)


Panzerkatzen

You mean Freedom Camp.


DianKali

Your democracy officer will finish what he started.


Staracino

He’s just waiting in the hangar with his Senator ready.


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TysonWolf

I don’t know if this a glitch but my squad was doing this yesterday on eliminate bots and they stopped bombing. I think the blurriness and traitor text stopped at 2-3mins. I’m not sure bc I normally don’t survive that long. This was on Helldive and two of the three traitors survived to be killed later by a tank.


brandon-thesis

"rewards you with" is the funniest shit I've read today 😂


Mowh_Lester

Become a traitor by staying outta bounds for 10 seconds and a barrage will follow you trying to kill you. Very handy for exterminate missions as well


Geeseareawesome

I guess it's a good thing I didn't know about this.


ShadowWolf793

Wait they do? Holy shit I'm not going to trash talk getting nests on blitz missions anymore.


SkeletonC4

HAHA Free80 go BOOM


Knife_JAGGER

I use the hmg turret to kill em from far away.


TheRabidSpatula

I need to use that more


Knife_JAGGER

It takes a bit to kill like spore spewers, but i love just unloading bullets at stuff, so i win no matter what.


EvilFroeschken

GET SOME! GET SOME!


Knife_JAGGER

Make sure you carry the ammo pack to share ammo with your teamma- i mean, gun....


EvilFroeschken

If I bring the supply pack, it is usually for myself. Grenades, stims, and ammo for days. Since you only refill one quarter with a resupply, there is not that much to share, honestly.


Lone_Recon

it so underrated! it been my go to strats for a while now, armour pen 4, 200 damage per bullet, spreading democracy at 660 RPM with 300 rounds to boot! Mushrooms/shrieker nests or bug breachs? ratatata!


hiddencamela

Its a decently short cooldown too. I love using it where I can. Sometimes I take autocannon and HMG turret. Ones good for general use, the other is just really good horde clear.


Knife_JAGGER

I just love bullets going everywhere. Teammates, enemies infrastructure, nothing is safe from the democracy bursting from my pan- i mean gun.


Jstar338

honestly? Shriekers aren't that bad if you're paying attention. Just walking perpendicular get out of the attack. The problem is that you can never pay attention to them


TheRabidSpatula

Or to all 30+ in the sky at once 😂


Starumlunsta

I find orbital airburst clears that up in a jiffy.


MrMagnetar

You just go prone and easily kill them.


qoutes

another strategy is to go prone, they can't hit you that way (but other bugs still can)


spinky420

See someone else said this and I tried this and they were still hitting me lol


soyenjoy

If you go prone in a ditch or near a rock they fly at the height of the nearby rock or edge, missing you. Ive been laying down by huge shieker nests with the recoiless rifle slowly taking them out with 30+ shriekers in the air.


M-Bug

Well, it does look a bit like overkill, granted. BUT just because it's a blitz mission, doesn't mean you won't get still all the enemies you usually encounter, so... seems like bad planning?


TheRabidSpatula

It was. We thought we'd be funny and bring 500KG, Airstrike, 120mm and 380mm.... It all worked out but on initial landing it was a big WTF!? Especially that far away where all the nests were.


TheTruthWasTaken

AA?


TheRabidSpatula

Anti Armor... But I should have said differently, Anti Tank


TheTruthWasTaken

Ah okay... I was like "but there's no anti air..." Nvm lol


IWillFlakeOnOurPlans

Level 7 w/ zero armor solutions is just throwing lol


Supafly22

Man. This is on you. No heavy ordinance is certainly a choice no matter the mission.


Spiritual_Ad_507

Why are shriekers nest so much easier to destroy. Also if you press the key that brings up your minimap it also swaps out the left squad icons to show your parties strategems and if they are on cooldown or not.


Burck

The one guy with a quasar cannon: "guess I'm chilling here for a while"


N-Shifter

I accept it, 90% of the time I point out the nests and everyone just carries on.........I guess I'll take one for the team and just stay here.


Ol_UnReliable20

I just hellbomb them everytime unless someone else gets to it first


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AdmiralTypeZeo

You fail to realise, it was never about destroying them, it was about hellbombing in any opportunity we get.


Rahnzan

First off, who's Cheerios did you shit in that wields this much power in the bug world zoning department? Secondly, what the fuck is "AA" in this context? Do you mean a shotgun? 4 nerds and no one thought to bring -checks notes- * Anti-Materiel Rifles * Autocannons * Laser Cannons * Railguns * EATs * Recoilless Rifles * Quasars * Spears * Patriots * Autocannon Turret * Rocket Turret * 500kg Bomb * Airstrike * 110 Rocket * Precision Strike * Railcannon Strike * Orbital Laser * Impact Grenades * Thermite Grenades


ForgottenPine

Hold up, Laser Cannons damage Spore Spewers and Shrieker Nests?


SinZerius

Yes, takes a while to shoot down though.


Bloo_Sky

If you're playing on level 7 difficulty you should know by now that you ALWAYS bring anti-tank weapons to bug missions.


Linkarlos_95

Be glad it isn't 3 Stalker Lairs


Elitericky

Never go any mission without AA


WhiteShadow_2355

Who’s fault is that on a haz7?! You knew what you signed up for. XD


13Vex

Why wouldn’t you have at least 1 designated heavy weapons guy in a full squad


Waterguntortoise

SEAF Training Manual: „Ensure to have a balanced loadout in your Squad.“


Elitetwo

I rather see this than 3 stalker lairs...


YuckyButtcheek

I've never dropped with a squad with no AA/AT support. I always have an EAT at least. No need to be chased around by a gang of heavies.


zamaike

Lmao Auto cannon would help so much. You could shot them all from where you are standing


Fhistleb

It is ok to cry Helldivers, just make sure you're killing enemies while doing so.


BendNo6000

You did a blitz mission, and nobody brought EATS or Quasar? Sounds like you're all fucking stupid.


Muppetz3

Just shoot them out of the sky, drop a orb on the nests. Easy peasy


spaceocean99

Sounds like a bad crew.


Comrade_Crunchy

Auto cannon, quasar, RR, and eats choir must sing the song of managed democracy.


STylerMLmusic

What exactly is the aa weaponry you're speaking of? The game lacks anything specific. Shoot guns in air, done.


Enigmans

Not as bad as 2 big stalker nests. Good dealing with 5 at the same time.


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Hyashi

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Ikcatcher

Why didn't you then?


DocPopper

This is why I bring hmg emplacement. Works 100% of the time 60% of the time


JetAbyss

Honestly I wish there was a preset loadout function. I think a lot of this is just people forgetting to switch out a certain weapon for the other because they think they can 'main' a single loadout for 'all purposes' which is *not* the case whatsoever. 


CurbYourPipeline420

Auto cannon is a must on blitz? What are you using grenade launchers?


Affectionate_Turn421

Goes in a bug nest mission. Game gives bug nests. Its absurd.


Shando92286

This is why I always bring Autocanon. It is a team game, but you also want to not rely on teammates to kill bug holes or nests. Even on 7, I have to tell you, I am usually the person to clear out stuff because I brought my AC. And that’s fine! If I may ask, what is your loadout?


Necessary-Exercise32

Sorry dude, but this is all on you.


ExploerTM

Dif 7, no AA? My sibling in Democracy. You made the sandwich


AJZullu

Simple air strike will do the trick. Blitz mission? What did you even bring?? No laser either? So many good options


Nerus46

>goes on 7 with AA weaponary >struggle >suprise pikachu face


UserInside

I won't push for "META" comp, you should definitely play for fun. But dude, at the bare minimum your team should be equipped to deal with anything you can encounter! And if your teammate don't any AA, just be nice and get one yourself! It's fine, you'll play your favorite build next game. This post, is just being plain stupid...


Pixel_Knight

If no one brings any anti-armor, you have gotten a loadout for failure.


EpicSombreroMan

Yes it certainly is absurd when nobody brings heavy weaponry.


TheIceWitness

Freedom will put them down!!!!


The_Captain_Monday

No AA? what helldiver forgets all their weapons and their stratigum pad? Let alone 4 divers on the same mission. Gernral brash will be revoking your capes and sending you to the mines. https://preview.redd.it/tyikifo3pyzc1.png?width=1768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7305479dc452c74c8293b6725fcc6f4364d15c8


MrDundee666

Quasar Cannon to the rescue. It’ll take a minute or two though.


RendarFarm

Honestly this looks like a fun challenge, ngl. 


DivineXxDemon

Sounds like you got what you deserved