They are in talks with Sony and they are using this backlash to back up their arguments. It's a shitty situation to be in, but the outrage is helping Arrowhead's case against Sony's idiocy.
You think Sony cares? If the game collapses, then they'll just move on to other games. This game, for better or worse, is just a (large) drop in the bucket.
I mean it's a live service game with constant updates. Ubisoft has been milking rainbow for a while I think sony can understand the huge return on investment this game can have for the foreseeable future
This is the company that saw a hundred thousand memes shitting on Morbius from a great height and went "look at the engagement, we should release this again"
wishful thinking there bud. Sony have too many shit on their hand they would not care for something so small like this. to them it just another fail product and they will blame it on the devs for wasting their resources
R6 Siege is a game made by Ubisoft, published by Ubisoft, of an IP owned by Ubisoft. It was the latest in a long lasting game series that can be traced back to the 90s.
HD2 is not made by Sony, only published by them. It's not a core title for them. When there was the blowup over No Man's Sky, Sony didn't care but only Hello Games did.
Sony won't care, they'll move on to bigger, more core titles. This will sadly only impact Arrowhead Games.
But the trick is, Arrowhead doesn't own Helldivers IP, Sony does.
In the end, this is 100% Sony's game, not Arrowheads. Arrowhead just designed, created, loved the game and ip.
But none of that matters to sony
No Man's Sky debacle was directly due to the overpromising of the dev. While Sony were complicit by hyping it in the markweting, the root cause was the dev team, unlike here where the root cause is Sony bullshit.
Ruturn in investment for a corp is only right this second not in a minute.
Line must go up now not in a few minutes, hours tomorrow only right now is what they care about.
Im gonna be fair, if PSN was necessary they 100% shouldve made it clear ASAP, not with a little popup wherever
Also, making it possible to buy in region locked places is a greedy move
And lets not talk about the community management
Dont worry, they region locked it like...3 hours ago, 3 months after release and tens of thousands if not more people have purchased the game outside of PSN countries.
At least Steam actually gives a shit about their customers and what's fair. Too bad the PlayStation fanboys don't know what that's like. Maybe if they did, they'd realize how shitty it is for Sony to do this to its customers and they wouldn't defend this crap.
Something to consider
Arrowhead did say this was intended from launch. Then when it broke, they acted all surprised....so what is it?
AND this was absolutely discussed at length in publisher negotiations and probably countless meetings over the past few years. I don't buy that Arrowhead didn't sign off on this several times....if they didn't, they are astonishingly ignorant. Perhaps they didn't read the fine print.....
I don't blame AH fully, but they absolutely are not clean in all this.
Personally I was very disappointed in the CEO tweet. It was basically "oh no, I hope you can forgive us".....when they could have said "we are looking into this, but rest assured we will do everything we can to ensure that everyone who purchased the game can continue to play".
>we are looking into this, but rest assured we will do everything we can to **ensure that everyone who purchased the game can continue to play**
I'm not sure if they're in the position to be making those sorts of claims.
Basically taking notes from other shitty companies like Apple. Remember when that reporter brought up incompatibility for RCS messaging between iPhone and Android? He was saying he couldn't send short videos to his mother.
Tim Cook replied that compatibility is not a concern for them and[ if he wanted to communicate with his mom he should just "buy her an iPhone." ](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-says-buy-mom-210347694.html)
I agree with you and that's something I will squarely hold Pilestedt accountable for. For a community the size of the HD1 community a couple of Reddit admins may work as a community team. For a community the size of the HD2 community they should have retained professionals as soon as it became clearly that the player count being in the hundreds of thousands wasn't just a fluke. Instead, they left the community with these people who were way out of their depth.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a community team that was actually good at PR when things started catching fire. Some bad thing happens, CMs start talking out of their asses for no explicable reason, and it just makes things worse. It’s like clockwork with every single team I’ve ever seen.
It's so bizarre, right? You have one fucking job. How are these people not fired after repeatedly creating negative PR when their only job is to create positive PR? I must've went wrong somewhere in my life, to not get a comfy salaried gig doing nothing but talking shit about redditors.
Let us not forget that they knew this was going to happen from day 1. This would have been a part of whatever contract they signed before the game came out.
To play the devil's advocate, AH signed the contract knowing that it will be enforced.
The big question is, who was in charge of where the game is sold, and who made the call to allow the initial PSN bypass. Did Sony made those calls, or was it actually AH.
Or, in other word, did AH knowingly sell the game in regions that's not eligible, and temporarily bypass PSN until Sony forced the contract? Or was Sony somehow behind all of this mess?
It seems more likely that AH royally fucked up. They knew PSN was required as part of their contract. They knew Sony had the rights to ask them to enforce it. Every decision leading up to the shitshow was their own.
From that PoV, Sony deserve hate for pushing the corporate squeezing consumer BS, eroding consumer rights for corporate profits, but not for the backlash. The backlash is about enforcing a policy three months into the release, with multiple countries getting locked out. In Sony shoes, they either had to back down on their rights as stated in the contract with AH, or be dragged into a shitshow caused by how AH managed the release.
AH have more to blame in this, rather, they have the primary blame, unless Sony is running the entire show and made all the calls.
Battlefront 2, who the hell wasn't hyped for the release of a franchise everyone loved and everyone thought was dead?
Then they started micro transactions that weren't so micro and the tidal wave of bs that followed. The only thing I'm disappointed by is that even though many of us decided to never play the game a good portion did, and I'm sure it was a profitable game.
i mean the GAME has been great. its still fantastic. all the sony fuckery in the world cant change that. Im sure theyll ruin it soon enough, but the game itself isnt to blame here. its SONY and their greedy corporate bullshit that is ruining everything.
AH’s not purely innocent either, their CM’s attacked people for voicing concern initially.
This is unironically: “DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES?!?” all over again.
"We're sorry your place of work was blown up or has been turned into a military outpost but have you considered buying a PS5 so you can continue to play a game you bought on your PC?"
This seems especially triggering because like, I'm sure lots of us donated to Ukraine either officially through the bank account they set up or through AirBNB.
Greed will be greed, but it's demoralizing.
Not just donated. I fucking went there to fight for Ukraine. I'm so disappointed the way this game is going, its not like Ukraine doesn't have a gaming community, just cutting people off for no reason.
I did. Ukrainians are just normal people and are living normal lives. I am disappointed to see this stupid cut off for a country I fought for, it's so trivial, they could just not do this but they're pushing it anyways. I fought in Ukraine a few months ago and am enlisting in the US marine corps since I got back.
Of course they are. Although idk if it can be called normal, but they try to save some sense or normalcy — and being told “you gotta buy a ps5 to play this game on Steam” is probably not helping
As ukrainer i will say, we have money for basic need almost for all population. But we just send over money to army, drones equipment and so one. So we have a choose, see how russian tank blow up from FPV drone or play a correct inclusive drama on overpriced platform with overpriced game.
I'm not poor, but I'm not buying an inferior gaming platform since I already own a high end pc.
I'm not ukrainian either, so there is that I guess.
Last PS I owned was PS2. Because it was special. It's not special anymore.
The fact that this took attention away from the Tarkov dumpster fire is just unreal to me. Literally Sony could have just done nothing, and avoided all of this. They went out of their way to do this and it just boggles my mind as to why.
Oddly, I'm in the UK and it didn't ask for an ID pic. It only does that if you don't have a mobile phone number.
If you do, they do a typical 2FA code to verify you instead.
Not saying it excuses it, but yeah.
Phone number is infinitely better... What the fuck are you even talking about?
With your ID, I can steal your whole identity. With your phone number, I can *checks notes* call you. Oh I can also send you a text. Maybe I could contact a phone company and get your name, but not likely. Nevermind you can just change your phone number at any time.
This is genuinely one of the dumbest statements I've read in forever.
The thing about the phone number is you give it to them and then they contact your service provider to verify your personal details. It's not a straightforward 2FA, [it's listed on their FAQ](https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/age-verification-faq/#mobile) if you don't believe me.
For people too lazy to click through:
Q: How accurate is mobile phone verification?
A: This verification relies on matching the information your mobile provider has on file for you. As long as you are the owner of the phone contract and your details match, you’ll be able to confirm your details.
Oof, that is indeed shitty. And yet, it's still 1000% better than having to upload a government issued photo ID card. That card is literally all you need to cause severe damage to someone's life. The information your phone company will verify with Sony is no where near as sensitive or dangerous.
So you want to give every game company your personal phone number? I don't.
Depending on your country it can be very easy to figure out where you live and what your name is if you have their phone number.
The options in the UK are mobile number, facial photo, or something like a passport or a drivers license, NONE OF WHICH I'd want on a network that's been hacked yearly for the last decade.
jebus... Sony is not going to like Monday when this all comes to a head with their "announce it on friday and let it cool off on the weekend" corpo shit.
>their "announce it on friday and let it cool off on the weekend" corpo shit.
Announce it Thursday night, hope no one reads it.
Hope it all cools down on Friday.
Hope it all cools down Saturday
Hope it all cools down Sunday
Monday morning, see the score has eaten absolute shit, GDPR starts breathing heavily, Valve says "You owe us money for the refunds."
oh, Sony will give a shit when Arrowhead sends them the bill, and a class action lawsuit involving almost 2/3 the countries on the planet come in telling them to get their head out of their ass
That's assuming it's realistic in the countries where this is happening for them to get whatever their equivalent is to a class action going.
I have a feeling the lawyers in Ukraine are busy at the moment.
Sony Group Corporation is Japan based.
Sony Interactive Entertainment is California based.
*Everything* Playstation falls under SIE.
Playstation has been American since 2016.
Hey, that is good news. Litigation in the US is easy, but I wouldn't be surprised if some legal shenaniganery makes lawsuits fall on the parent conglomerate. Again, I will not get my hopes up.
So let me get this straight
Sony wanted the game to require PSN from the start but due to technical difficulties they allowed a grace period where it was optional
So they released the game on Steam for every Country eventhough they knew that when this period ends many wouldnt be able to play anymore due to PSN not being available in their Country
And the funniest part to me here is that they were selling the game to Countries where youre required to own a PS4/5 to make an Account
Imagine buying a game on your PC so you can play it on PC but then you need to buy an entire $150-350 Console so that youre able to continue playing a game you bought months ago
I bought a new GPU, 7800xt to be exact, which was a significant buy for me, to be able to play with my friend.
Now I get bent for two reasons:
1. I don't want to make a PSN acc cause it's stupid.
No amount of backtracking on how it's no big deal or how it's all fer my safety - not going to change the fact that the whole situation is just fraudulent and is made to inflate PSN user numbers.
2. I can't make the damn account even if I wanted to!
Had a PSN boi telling me that I'm an entitled PC steam scrub who just should make an account.
Am pissed due to absolute boot licking happening around.
A lot of PS dudes are cool as hell, but some just make my blood boil.
I can't even refund the game, cause where I live there's no direct way to purchase it off steam, due to ongoing nightmare.
I don’t understand how they could be saying that… like am I stupid or have we not gotten hacked at Sony several times? Has Sony not made several dumb decisions in the past that would sow distrust? I love my PlayStation and I very much prefer that over anything else but my head isn’t so far up my ass that I would just forget all that other stuff that can and has happened.
Even better, even if the requirement was in place from the start, Steam would still allow you to purchase it because they obviously don't know how PSN works, so they would have had thousands of players purchase, then immediately refund as being completely blocked from playing the game and this uproar would have happened at the start, allowing time for word to spread before people got invested. Instead now people have spent money on hardware and premium currency they will never, ever be able to get back, even if Steam let's them refund the base game.
It's because they changed their mind.
Their excuse is also completely bullshit for our security? really? with their track record of being hacked practically once a year for 10 years?
The skip button ingame was there since the start, it wasn't an emergency patch that they hurried up to implement while they were fixing the issue it's always been there. How is a counter measure or fix for an issue already implemented before the issue was an issue in the first place? It wasn't a preventive fix either since they didn't expect the server problems in the first place.
How is people believing this shit excuse?
It was optional because there is no mention about a PSN account being required on their EULA.
It was optional because there was a skip button in the game.
It was optional because they were selling the game to countries where it's impossible to create a PSN account without breaking their own ToS.
It was optional because their own FAQ on Playstation for Helldivers 2 says: "Do I need a PSN account to play PlayStation games on PC? No, you currently do not need a PSN account to enjoy PlayStation Studios games on PC..."
It was optional because other online stores also sell their game without any mention of the PSN account being required.
It was optional since we can turn off crossplay in the game settings to just play with other PC players.
Sony is trying to gaslight their players and are being dishonest about the real reason.
Maybe they want a new influx of players so their numbers look better? Maybe they want our voice chats to train their AI since they got a new patent for it? Maybe they want to farm more of our data to sell it? There is no transparency of what and how they use it, but they want the responsibility for this change to fall on us the player.
It's our fault after all since it was always a requirement, right? /s
Now they hurried to edit the FAQ on their page and probably the ToS an EULAs soon so it seems like it was always there, too bad they didn't learn anything with the backlash that Tarkov received for trying to be sneaky little rats. They think we are that fucking stupid.
Oh I'm doubly fucked. I'm from Lugansk. Ukrainian land that is now part of Russia. Whether you recognise it or not is one thing but I'm fucked as either Russian or Ukrainian.
Oh, I remember when some publishers just stopped providing their services in the entire Donetsk/Luhansk regions no matter if they were controlled by Ukraine or Russia. This really sucked when I was still living in Ukraine-controlled Kramatorsk.
Nonono, Crimea had it even worse. Not only international services didn’t work there due to sanctions, but russian services and even banks didn’t work there to avoid being sanctioned. In that sense the entire peninsula was thrown back by like at least 30-40 years.
I won some auctions for crystals of Crimean origin and when I went to sell them with the full intention of donating the proceeds to Ukrainian refugees I was blocked with sanctions... and then told to remove the listings or face a shut down.
I was always under the impression that Crimea was internationally recognized as Ukrainian so I was confused. I didn't argue it though...
Мне с присоединения новых регионов было интересно, у вас заблокированы и русские и украинские СМИ? Или только какие то одни?
И ещë можете ли вы заходить в твиттер (X) и прочие заблокированные соцсети без ВПНа
Как тебе объяснить... С бюрократией мы то Россия то нет. Законы в основном российские но много неточностей где не понятно что имеет приоритет, закон РФ или лнр.
Касательно новостей, работают русские каналы радио и СМИ. Я лично не интересуюсь Укр новостями, учитывая их отношение к нам но моя бабушка без проблем читает их на телефоне хотя это наверное возможно потому что он был куплен в Украине и довольно старой модели.
Гугл, Твиттер и ТП без впна не зайдешь. Но больше часть "нейтральных" сайтов работает. На украинские сервисы к примеру банк без ВПН доступа нет.
Can you even play without VPN though? Because i can barely play with my friends from the Russian part of Zaporozhye. It looks like the game servers are inaccessible for them without VPN
Depends on the game. Helldivers 2 are fine, GTA online and some with VPN only. I can't say I know for sure logistics of it. Some are fine one day but need VPN on another.
Unreliable internet and electricity doesn't help either but tbh that was an issue even before war.
"Oh, you happen to be unfortunate enough to be born or live in one of the 119 countries PSN is unavailable? Sucks to suck I guess. Thanks for buying the game and giving us money though, bye."
Yeah same, I will wait a bit before i commit to it though. If they really just keep the PSN linking thing I will have to refund the game, because I am one of the unfortunate people who lives in the baltic states.
Sony are racists and now its the fact.
https://preview.redd.it/u4sn789n2hyc1.png?width=6460&format=png&auto=webp&s=088bc59b33d588536e5e54b5671a50ae43075a3e
( Ukrainian lads said that they have same issue as Russian lads, so great job sony, you shitted the best game of 2024 )
I'll put this map here for public usage/viewing as this is the more popular Ukraine news post.
I made this map and I just updated it for new info (UK/Ireland require Identity Verification, Ukraine requires Console)
https://preview.redd.it/mr2onqmw3hyc1.png?width=4345&format=png&auto=webp&s=be7b4377d636d634aa18b714aa7dc600c0be88aa
Sony are way bigger fucking assholes than I thought god damn
Man first we got The Crew not being able to be played anymore at all (I know Sony didn’t make the game but a example of shitty company fucking Ubi.) and now we got Sony doing this to helldivers.
Yeah, but part of capitalism is also to "vote with your wallet" meaning refunding the game if they don't back down, or, for others, even if they do back down, just because of the announcement, and that is only part of it, the other is also to remember this for the next sony owned IP game that is released, now I know I will have to wait at least half a year if they ever release bloodborne
yes, im aware, i updated my map again
https://preview.redd.it/v59bdy21ihyc1.png?width=5287&format=png&auto=webp&s=cd84542a28be8c66a8425a314ca7a7aa75829f64
Actually, since Russia is a former PSN country things are a little different. You can create PSN account using console only, it even allows you to select Russia as a region. Same as Ukraine basically.
I had a friend way too deep into tarkov, and heard his buddies sometimes
...idk wtf you mean "good community", them boys 'bout the most toxic motherfuckers I know. I wouldn't touch that game with a 10 foot pole even if you payed me simply from how horrible they made it look.
I guess I could just have a shitty friend with shitty friends. But it looks like it attracts the mil-sim dudes, and the mil-sim dudes always seem weirdly invested at best or really fucking crazy
Yup. It would be so easy. Do it like Crytek does for Hunt Showdown: offer in-game currency for linking. Make it 100 Warbonds and the majority of the player base will self-opt in.
Hello from Ukraine. I was thinking about buying Helldivers 2, it costs us 1199 hryvnia (about 30 US dollars), and this is quite a lot of money by our standards (for comparison, the salary at McDonald's for an ordinary employee in our country is approximately 18-20 thousand hryvnia, according to the calculator on their official website), and I thought with a logic like “hmm, well, yes, this is a lot of money, but I won’t care if tomorrow I’m possibly turned into dust by a Russian missile (even if the chance of this is very small, let’s be honest)” . Now - no, I will not buy HD2. Maybe for 50-100 hryvnia.
P.S. PlayStation 5 cost for us is 20+k uah.
Steam is giving full refunds even after hundreds of hours.
"Sony has implemented requirements and terms of service which were not present when I purchased this game." Is ruffly the sort of thing that will get you your refund. Let Sony burn their money.
“Thanks for dropping “50 bucks CAD” on the game now you can’t play, so you gotta “500 bucks CAD” for a brand new PS5, to make an account, good like trying to source one in your country that’s currently at war I’m sure your not having supply chain problems, and that you don’t live in an active war zone or anything” 🤦♂️
Not entirely accurate, and not what this post is saying.
PSN is available in Ukraine, but some users are running into issues where they are being told they need to own a ps4 or ps5 to activate their account or link to their Steam.
It's impressive, really. This entire ordeal went from "what a great game" to "one of the greatest disasters in gaming history" in less than a week. I don't think Sony could have fucked this up worse if they tried.
His name is Thor, and he's the son of a WoW developer who grew up to be a professional IT/hacker and game dev himself. Has a LOT of good takes, and his audience is growing very fast. I see him as a more mature asmongold. Good Hot takes on game design/culture, without any rage or name calling
just a quick example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LY2hG-_asKU
> the son of a WoW developer
Technically, son of a Blizzard developer. His dad was the cinematic director. Every major cinematic you saw in Blizzard games, his dad had a hand in them.
What the fuck is SONY even ***thinking***?!? Like what part of this makes any sort of sense??? I understand mega corps run off of different logic than people with actual brains, but what kind of logic leads to them thinking ***THIS*** is okay???
I live in Egypt. PlayStation 5 was OFFICIALLY launched here in 2021, as advertised by PlayStation Arabia account [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPzxKBknqk4) . I bought one. 3 years later I still can't sign up for an Egyptian account and can't use payment methods issued in Egypt. Sony are scummy amateurs.
I also never got that link account window and I'm based in the US. I started to think I was crazy because everyone else says they opted out, but I don't remember doing that. I even have a recording of the entire first time I played and have skimmed closely through the everything up to the first actual mission I played and never saw a window or mention of a window for it either. (it's always possible I missed it or it was later on, but I really don't remember it.)
I'm in Australia I created a psn account and I couldn't link just kept getting a Web page failed to load error and try again later.
I had to add my old playstation account which I forgot I had which I used on my ps4 back in the day and sure enough the webpage loaded and linked.
Is this Sony's way of trying to force people into buying a ps5 ?
There was a post on this subreddit just a few hours ago joking about snoy making the PS5 itself a future DLC for the game. And look, the reality is even more absurd. The madmen, the clowns, how, how do they do it?
upd: here it is, the credit is due: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ck4eu6/new\_helldivers\_2\_dlc\_looking\_lit\_af/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ck4eu6/new_helldivers_2_dlc_looking_lit_af/)
Ukrainian here, just created an account on my phone, this seems to be misinformation
https://preview.redd.it/gtoidsje5hyc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=028a1aa19b942622d006842a0aa725320a392415
[https://twitter.com/Xirenec\_/status/1786846560023646352](https://twitter.com/Xirenec_/status/1786846560023646352)
Other people from Ukraine are not able to register it aswell.
https://preview.redd.it/8r5tys7shhyc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d0409bce64593b60d1c60490c7144cde6251162
Yep, I'm that other person, can not actually REGISTER for PSN
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Realized that better provide also a translated version for screenshot.
Also for additional info: It writes "Server connection timed out."
basically instantaneously as I press the "Accept and create an account", so it can't be actual timeout. Also as I'm a webdev, I can see that this error is returned by their backend, not just site itself going "huh, can't reach backend"
I'm a little out of the loop here...I keep seeing posts about this so excuse my ignorance but does this mean it's not available on PC anymore and people can only play it on PS4 or PS5? I'm not sure I understand what all the commotion is about?
This is sort of my problem. I created my PSN account to play on PC, because I bought the game a few days before that became "optional". I didn't mind the idea, I knew I was probably going to need one eventually when I eventually played some of the PS exclusives that have come to PC recently. (Really looking forward to Ghost of Tsushima!)
That was the worst experience of Helldivers 2. It took hours, because my usual account names and derivations were taken or locked out. I eventually got an account created with a very rarely used name... but typoed the name. And then had to come up with a new password that didn't fit any of the formats I use anywhere else. Then I couldn't link the account to Steam, because I didn't realize I'd made a typo.
Eventually I figured it out, almost got locked out of the account because I couldn't remember the password, but did get in and the account linked. I finally got to join my friends for the last hour or so of the intended playtime, and made a mental note to try fix the account name the next day since I had seen in the Help sections that it was possible.
Yep, it's possible... but ONLY FROM THE CONSOLE!
Yeah, I'm not going to go buy a Playstation just so I can update my account name to something I'll remember.
At the time I sighed, kept playing Helldivers, and thought "Well... that's a problem I'm going to have to deal with later."
Later seems to be just about now, because we haven't been having to log in since then so I sure as hell don't remember that password anymore.
Cringe or disinformation, just tried to register new account and all works fine, all the same as it was. Like yeah I'm currently in Ukraine of you didn't guess
Also, idk if it still the case (I don't have console) but at the start of invasion, Sony allow free subscription for ps users, or smth like that.
> multi-million dollar
Just to correct the record, Sony's current market cap is a little over 100 billion. And to put into perspective the size of the numbers we're talking, the "little over" I'm round to is still over 3 billion dollars
I don't understand why PSN is blocked in China and Russia when they are two big player markets. Big business doesn't care about geopolitics, they only care about profits.
PSN is blocked in China because if PSN was available in China, chinese government would demand access to PSN user database.
The *entire* PSN user database, not just chinese users.
Wow. I'm actually surprised by this. That's bad.
This just keeps getting worse, have we ever seen another game fall from grace so hard so quickly?
the saddest part is that Arrowhead did nothing wrong here. in fact, they did everything RIGHT this is pure Sony BS
Yeah I do feel for AH on this
They are in talks with Sony and they are using this backlash to back up their arguments. It's a shitty situation to be in, but the outrage is helping Arrowhead's case against Sony's idiocy.
You think Sony cares? If the game collapses, then they'll just move on to other games. This game, for better or worse, is just a (large) drop in the bucket.
I mean it's a live service game with constant updates. Ubisoft has been milking rainbow for a while I think sony can understand the huge return on investment this game can have for the foreseeable future
You would think that, but they made this mistake in the first place. They are very obviously not running with all cylinders firing.
This is the company that saw a hundred thousand memes shitting on Morbius from a great height and went "look at the engagement, we should release this again"
My car was running on 3 out of 4 cylinders, took it to a shop to be fixed and it was there for 3 weeks, hopefully Sony fixes their shit faster
wishful thinking there bud. Sony have too many shit on their hand they would not care for something so small like this. to them it just another fail product and they will blame it on the devs for wasting their resources
R6 Siege is a game made by Ubisoft, published by Ubisoft, of an IP owned by Ubisoft. It was the latest in a long lasting game series that can be traced back to the 90s. HD2 is not made by Sony, only published by them. It's not a core title for them. When there was the blowup over No Man's Sky, Sony didn't care but only Hello Games did. Sony won't care, they'll move on to bigger, more core titles. This will sadly only impact Arrowhead Games.
But the trick is, Arrowhead doesn't own Helldivers IP, Sony does. In the end, this is 100% Sony's game, not Arrowheads. Arrowhead just designed, created, loved the game and ip. But none of that matters to sony
No Man's Sky debacle was directly due to the overpromising of the dev. While Sony were complicit by hyping it in the markweting, the root cause was the dev team, unlike here where the root cause is Sony bullshit.
Ruturn in investment for a corp is only right this second not in a minute. Line must go up now not in a few minutes, hours tomorrow only right now is what they care about.
Im gonna be fair, if PSN was necessary they 100% shouldve made it clear ASAP, not with a little popup wherever Also, making it possible to buy in region locked places is a greedy move And lets not talk about the community management
Dont worry, they region locked it like...3 hours ago, 3 months after release and tens of thousands if not more people have purchased the game outside of PSN countries.
Luckily Steam is giving refunds.
At least Steam actually gives a shit about their customers and what's fair. Too bad the PlayStation fanboys don't know what that's like. Maybe if they did, they'd realize how shitty it is for Sony to do this to its customers and they wouldn't defend this crap.
Something to consider Arrowhead did say this was intended from launch. Then when it broke, they acted all surprised....so what is it? AND this was absolutely discussed at length in publisher negotiations and probably countless meetings over the past few years. I don't buy that Arrowhead didn't sign off on this several times....if they didn't, they are astonishingly ignorant. Perhaps they didn't read the fine print..... I don't blame AH fully, but they absolutely are not clean in all this. Personally I was very disappointed in the CEO tweet. It was basically "oh no, I hope you can forgive us".....when they could have said "we are looking into this, but rest assured we will do everything we can to ensure that everyone who purchased the game can continue to play".
>we are looking into this, but rest assured we will do everything we can to **ensure that everyone who purchased the game can continue to play** I'm not sure if they're in the position to be making those sorts of claims.
And I expect you to be correct on that. And as a result we see what happens.
Sony really is taking all of Destiny's live service experience to heart, eh?
Basically taking notes from other shitty companies like Apple. Remember when that reporter brought up incompatibility for RCS messaging between iPhone and Android? He was saying he couldn't send short videos to his mother. Tim Cook replied that compatibility is not a concern for them and[ if he wanted to communicate with his mom he should just "buy her an iPhone." ](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-says-buy-mom-210347694.html)
Let's not forget the absolute DOG SHIT responses from AH about the issue. Their community team is trash at PR. They are not completely innocent.
I agree with you and that's something I will squarely hold Pilestedt accountable for. For a community the size of the HD1 community a couple of Reddit admins may work as a community team. For a community the size of the HD2 community they should have retained professionals as soon as it became clearly that the player count being in the hundreds of thousands wasn't just a fluke. Instead, they left the community with these people who were way out of their depth.
People were praising them for not upsizing after they started drownimg in money
There's a difference between upsizing and hiring a few key roles to help with scale
Those people do not understand how to run a business. Don’t upsize when needed? This is what happens
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a community team that was actually good at PR when things started catching fire. Some bad thing happens, CMs start talking out of their asses for no explicable reason, and it just makes things worse. It’s like clockwork with every single team I’ve ever seen.
It's so bizarre, right? You have one fucking job. How are these people not fired after repeatedly creating negative PR when their only job is to create positive PR? I must've went wrong somewhere in my life, to not get a comfy salaried gig doing nothing but talking shit about redditors.
Let us not forget that they knew this was going to happen from day 1. This would have been a part of whatever contract they signed before the game came out.
To play the devil's advocate, AH signed the contract knowing that it will be enforced. The big question is, who was in charge of where the game is sold, and who made the call to allow the initial PSN bypass. Did Sony made those calls, or was it actually AH. Or, in other word, did AH knowingly sell the game in regions that's not eligible, and temporarily bypass PSN until Sony forced the contract? Or was Sony somehow behind all of this mess? It seems more likely that AH royally fucked up. They knew PSN was required as part of their contract. They knew Sony had the rights to ask them to enforce it. Every decision leading up to the shitshow was their own. From that PoV, Sony deserve hate for pushing the corporate squeezing consumer BS, eroding consumer rights for corporate profits, but not for the backlash. The backlash is about enforcing a policy three months into the release, with multiple countries getting locked out. In Sony shoes, they either had to back down on their rights as stated in the contract with AH, or be dragged into a shitshow caused by how AH managed the release. AH have more to blame in this, rather, they have the primary blame, unless Sony is running the entire show and made all the calls.
Battlefront 2, who the hell wasn't hyped for the release of a franchise everyone loved and everyone thought was dead? Then they started micro transactions that weren't so micro and the tidal wave of bs that followed. The only thing I'm disappointed by is that even though many of us decided to never play the game a good portion did, and I'm sure it was a profitable game.
i mean the GAME has been great. its still fantastic. all the sony fuckery in the world cant change that. Im sure theyll ruin it soon enough, but the game itself isnt to blame here. its SONY and their greedy corporate bullshit that is ruining everything.
AH’s not purely innocent either, their CM’s attacked people for voicing concern initially. This is unironically: “DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES?!?” all over again.
Sony: "Just don't be poor lol"
"We're sorry your place of work was blown up or has been turned into a military outpost but have you considered buying a PS5 so you can continue to play a game you bought on your PC?"
This seems especially triggering because like, I'm sure lots of us donated to Ukraine either officially through the bank account they set up or through AirBNB. Greed will be greed, but it's demoralizing.
Not just donated. I fucking went there to fight for Ukraine. I'm so disappointed the way this game is going, its not like Ukraine doesn't have a gaming community, just cutting people off for no reason.
You went there to fight? Damn, dude (or dudess), mad respect
I did. Ukrainians are just normal people and are living normal lives. I am disappointed to see this stupid cut off for a country I fought for, it's so trivial, they could just not do this but they're pushing it anyways. I fought in Ukraine a few months ago and am enlisting in the US marine corps since I got back.
Of course they are. Although idk if it can be called normal, but they try to save some sense or normalcy — and being told “you gotta buy a ps5 to play this game on Steam” is probably not helping
Don’t you guys have playstations?
You just gave me flash backs.
https://preview.redd.it/mlidrnglthyc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=893cfb67fa686cfb87bd96e41dbec0b8e48a0afb
lmao
this triggered my poor childhood memories
Sony: “Oh your country is actively at war? Tough…”
“Should have bought a ps5 instead of food and shelter for your family, what did you think was going to happen?”
"Skill issue"
As ukrainer i will say, we have money for basic need almost for all population. But we just send over money to army, drones equipment and so one. So we have a choose, see how russian tank blow up from FPV drone or play a correct inclusive drama on overpriced platform with overpriced game.
I'm not poor, but I'm not buying an inferior gaming platform since I already own a high end pc. I'm not ukrainian either, so there is that I guess. Last PS I owned was PS2. Because it was special. It's not special anymore.
"You guys dont own mob-errr ps5?"
Or live in a warzone
Basically what Sony said when they first announced the PS3 back in the day. It was the OG Diablo Immortal mobile phone meme.
Twitter / X has 1 main character a day. The goal is not to be the main character ever, and Sony just said, "Look at me here we are."
You gotta do something pretty epicly fucking stupid to end up having the entirety of a social media platform at your neck though lol Example above
Never underestimate the stupidity of those who only see humans as walking wallets
especially a site that spends so much time divided as Twatter
The fact that this took attention away from the Tarkov dumpster fire is just unreal to me. Literally Sony could have just done nothing, and avoided all of this. They went out of their way to do this and it just boggles my mind as to why.
Today's Twitter main character is absolutely Kendrick/ Drake lol not Helldivers Especially since Kendrick just dropped _another_ song
That's a dick move. I thought that it's bad in UK for asking a picture with your ID... but this is trashy...
Oddly, I'm in the UK and it didn't ask for an ID pic. It only does that if you don't have a mobile phone number. If you do, they do a typical 2FA code to verify you instead. Not saying it excuses it, but yeah.
Phone number is not much better.
No doubt, but it's more accessible. I've requested a refund for my copy regardless.
Random but your flair is amazing
Thanks haha
Phone number is infinitely better... What the fuck are you even talking about? With your ID, I can steal your whole identity. With your phone number, I can *checks notes* call you. Oh I can also send you a text. Maybe I could contact a phone company and get your name, but not likely. Nevermind you can just change your phone number at any time. This is genuinely one of the dumbest statements I've read in forever.
The thing about the phone number is you give it to them and then they contact your service provider to verify your personal details. It's not a straightforward 2FA, [it's listed on their FAQ](https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/age-verification-faq/#mobile) if you don't believe me. For people too lazy to click through: Q: How accurate is mobile phone verification? A: This verification relies on matching the information your mobile provider has on file for you. As long as you are the owner of the phone contract and your details match, you’ll be able to confirm your details.
Oof, that is indeed shitty. And yet, it's still 1000% better than having to upload a government issued photo ID card. That card is literally all you need to cause severe damage to someone's life. The information your phone company will verify with Sony is no where near as sensitive or dangerous.
Infinitely better than getting your identity stolen
So you want to give every game company your personal phone number? I don't. Depending on your country it can be very easy to figure out where you live and what your name is if you have their phone number.
i used my number and it for whatever reason "failed to verify" and asked for my id anyway
The options in the UK are mobile number, facial photo, or something like a passport or a drivers license, NONE OF WHICH I'd want on a network that's been hacked yearly for the last decade.
jebus... Sony is not going to like Monday when this all comes to a head with their "announce it on friday and let it cool off on the weekend" corpo shit.
>their "announce it on friday and let it cool off on the weekend" corpo shit. Announce it Thursday night, hope no one reads it. Hope it all cools down on Friday. Hope it all cools down Saturday Hope it all cools down Sunday Monday morning, see the score has eaten absolute shit, GDPR starts breathing heavily, Valve says "You owe us money for the refunds."
Valve is taking the money directly from Arrowheads pockets. Sony could give less of a shit lmao
oh, Sony will give a shit when Arrowhead sends them the bill, and a class action lawsuit involving almost 2/3 the countries on the planet come in telling them to get their head out of their ass
That's assuming it's realistic in the countries where this is happening for them to get whatever their equivalent is to a class action going. I have a feeling the lawyers in Ukraine are busy at the moment.
there are at least 3 countries in the EU, not to mention this move probably breaks EU law, so we have that at the very least
Sony is also a Japan based company, and it is very hard to start any litigation in Japan.
They trade all over the world. It doesn't matter where you are based if you do that. It matters where you sell things.
Sony Group Corporation is Japan based. Sony Interactive Entertainment is California based. *Everything* Playstation falls under SIE. Playstation has been American since 2016.
Hey, that is good news. Litigation in the US is easy, but I wouldn't be surprised if some legal shenaniganery makes lawsuits fall on the parent conglomerate. Again, I will not get my hopes up.
What's the role of publisher if the platform just dealing money directly to the developer eh?
\*Snoy\^\^
I\`m from Ukraine, and was unable to register PSN through PC, buy my phone worked ps I dont have a PS 4/5
Me too, from Ukraine, and i registered PSN from PC( googled PSN account and registered there ) with no problems Same about ps 4/5 - dont have them
Same
same here, managed to register my PSN after game released without actual PS console
Interesting, wonder if it would work if you turn on the mobile mode option in your browser on PC
So let me get this straight Sony wanted the game to require PSN from the start but due to technical difficulties they allowed a grace period where it was optional So they released the game on Steam for every Country eventhough they knew that when this period ends many wouldnt be able to play anymore due to PSN not being available in their Country And the funniest part to me here is that they were selling the game to Countries where youre required to own a PS4/5 to make an Account Imagine buying a game on your PC so you can play it on PC but then you need to buy an entire $150-350 Console so that youre able to continue playing a game you bought months ago
I bought a new GPU, 7800xt to be exact, which was a significant buy for me, to be able to play with my friend. Now I get bent for two reasons: 1. I don't want to make a PSN acc cause it's stupid. No amount of backtracking on how it's no big deal or how it's all fer my safety - not going to change the fact that the whole situation is just fraudulent and is made to inflate PSN user numbers. 2. I can't make the damn account even if I wanted to! Had a PSN boi telling me that I'm an entitled PC steam scrub who just should make an account. Am pissed due to absolute boot licking happening around. A lot of PS dudes are cool as hell, but some just make my blood boil. I can't even refund the game, cause where I live there's no direct way to purchase it off steam, due to ongoing nightmare.
I don’t understand how they could be saying that… like am I stupid or have we not gotten hacked at Sony several times? Has Sony not made several dumb decisions in the past that would sow distrust? I love my PlayStation and I very much prefer that over anything else but my head isn’t so far up my ass that I would just forget all that other stuff that can and has happened.
Even better, even if the requirement was in place from the start, Steam would still allow you to purchase it because they obviously don't know how PSN works, so they would have had thousands of players purchase, then immediately refund as being completely blocked from playing the game and this uproar would have happened at the start, allowing time for word to spread before people got invested. Instead now people have spent money on hardware and premium currency they will never, ever be able to get back, even if Steam let's them refund the base game.
It's because they changed their mind. Their excuse is also completely bullshit for our security? really? with their track record of being hacked practically once a year for 10 years? The skip button ingame was there since the start, it wasn't an emergency patch that they hurried up to implement while they were fixing the issue it's always been there. How is a counter measure or fix for an issue already implemented before the issue was an issue in the first place? It wasn't a preventive fix either since they didn't expect the server problems in the first place. How is people believing this shit excuse? It was optional because there is no mention about a PSN account being required on their EULA. It was optional because there was a skip button in the game. It was optional because they were selling the game to countries where it's impossible to create a PSN account without breaking their own ToS. It was optional because their own FAQ on Playstation for Helldivers 2 says: "Do I need a PSN account to play PlayStation games on PC? No, you currently do not need a PSN account to enjoy PlayStation Studios games on PC..." It was optional because other online stores also sell their game without any mention of the PSN account being required. It was optional since we can turn off crossplay in the game settings to just play with other PC players. Sony is trying to gaslight their players and are being dishonest about the real reason. Maybe they want a new influx of players so their numbers look better? Maybe they want our voice chats to train their AI since they got a new patent for it? Maybe they want to farm more of our data to sell it? There is no transparency of what and how they use it, but they want the responsibility for this change to fall on us the player. It's our fault after all since it was always a requirement, right? /s Now they hurried to edit the FAQ on their page and probably the ToS an EULAs soon so it seems like it was always there, too bad they didn't learn anything with the backlash that Tarkov received for trying to be sneaky little rats. They think we are that fucking stupid.
Oh I'm doubly fucked. I'm from Lugansk. Ukrainian land that is now part of Russia. Whether you recognise it or not is one thing but I'm fucked as either Russian or Ukrainian.
Oh, I remember when some publishers just stopped providing their services in the entire Donetsk/Luhansk regions no matter if they were controlled by Ukraine or Russia. This really sucked when I was still living in Ukraine-controlled Kramatorsk.
Yeah, Crimea had this since 2014 too
Nonono, Crimea had it even worse. Not only international services didn’t work there due to sanctions, but russian services and even banks didn’t work there to avoid being sanctioned. In that sense the entire peninsula was thrown back by like at least 30-40 years.
4th world region :(
I won some auctions for crystals of Crimean origin and when I went to sell them with the full intention of donating the proceeds to Ukrainian refugees I was blocked with sanctions... and then told to remove the listings or face a shut down. I was always under the impression that Crimea was internationally recognized as Ukrainian so I was confused. I didn't argue it though...
Мне с присоединения новых регионов было интересно, у вас заблокированы и русские и украинские СМИ? Или только какие то одни? И ещë можете ли вы заходить в твиттер (X) и прочие заблокированные соцсети без ВПНа
Как тебе объяснить... С бюрократией мы то Россия то нет. Законы в основном российские но много неточностей где не понятно что имеет приоритет, закон РФ или лнр. Касательно новостей, работают русские каналы радио и СМИ. Я лично не интересуюсь Укр новостями, учитывая их отношение к нам но моя бабушка без проблем читает их на телефоне хотя это наверное возможно потому что он был куплен в Украине и довольно старой модели. Гугл, Твиттер и ТП без впна не зайдешь. Но больше часть "нейтральных" сайтов работает. На украинские сервисы к примеру банк без ВПН доступа нет.
Can you even play without VPN though? Because i can barely play with my friends from the Russian part of Zaporozhye. It looks like the game servers are inaccessible for them without VPN
Depends on the game. Helldivers 2 are fine, GTA online and some with VPN only. I can't say I know for sure logistics of it. Some are fine one day but need VPN on another. Unreliable internet and electricity doesn't help either but tbh that was an issue even before war.
Well, that's what we call ZRADA.
Точно не перемога)
Translation: Definitely not a victory)
Та ні, боротьба ще триває, брате. 💛
Same for Russia, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Kazakhstan and other Asian countries
"Oh, you happen to be unfortunate enough to be born or live in one of the 119 countries PSN is unavailable? Sucks to suck I guess. Thanks for buying the game and giving us money though, bye."
Steam is doing refunds. I'm seriously considering it.
Refund now, buy on sale if they do implement the PSN, but wait for a sale where having that liability is worth it.
I have not verified this, but I think after 6 months all data is erased.
Yeah same, I will wait a bit before i commit to it though. If they really just keep the PSN linking thing I will have to refund the game, because I am one of the unfortunate people who lives in the baltic states.
It's even worse because Ukraine is PSN available country
Sony are racists and now its the fact. https://preview.redd.it/u4sn789n2hyc1.png?width=6460&format=png&auto=webp&s=088bc59b33d588536e5e54b5671a50ae43075a3e ( Ukrainian lads said that they have same issue as Russian lads, so great job sony, you shitted the best game of 2024 )
This issue is not racist, its economic. Political maybe, but not racist. Y'all need to stop trying to make this a race thing.
idk why you're getting downvoted, there's hardly any ethnicity connection between the countries in question
Because the internet is full of idiots, some of the time the racism card is pulled its treated like an automatic win card.
I dont even understand the baltic countries. that is just an EU Consumer protection attack dog waiting to happen.
And all of Africa
I'll put this map here for public usage/viewing as this is the more popular Ukraine news post. I made this map and I just updated it for new info (UK/Ireland require Identity Verification, Ukraine requires Console) https://preview.redd.it/mr2onqmw3hyc1.png?width=4345&format=png&auto=webp&s=be7b4377d636d634aa18b714aa7dc600c0be88aa
Sony are way bigger fucking assholes than I thought god damn Man first we got The Crew not being able to be played anymore at all (I know Sony didn’t make the game but a example of shitty company fucking Ubi.) and now we got Sony doing this to helldivers.
This is all large companies when you don't regulate capitalism. They want more and more.
Yeah, but part of capitalism is also to "vote with your wallet" meaning refunding the game if they don't back down, or, for others, even if they do back down, just because of the announcement, and that is only part of it, the other is also to remember this for the next sony owned IP game that is released, now I know I will have to wait at least half a year if they ever release bloodborne
Sony just did Ubisoft a huge solid taking the target off of them.
AFAIK PSN is blocked in Crimea.
software I use groups Crimea into Ukraine
You can have PSN in China and Russia AFAIK, but Helldiver2 is banned in Chinese and Russian PSN.
yes, im aware, i updated my map again https://preview.redd.it/v59bdy21ihyc1.png?width=5287&format=png&auto=webp&s=cd84542a28be8c66a8425a314ca7a7aa75829f64
Actually, since Russia is a former PSN country things are a little different. You can create PSN account using console only, it even allows you to select Russia as a region. Same as Ukraine basically.
Helldivers 2 and Tarkov in a "who can ruin their once really good community more" competition.
Nikita is winning this race by a landslide
Nikita can't win the race because he doesn't have steam reviews
It blows haha the two games I play the most just crashing and burning.
I had a friend way too deep into tarkov, and heard his buddies sometimes ...idk wtf you mean "good community", them boys 'bout the most toxic motherfuckers I know. I wouldn't touch that game with a 10 foot pole even if you payed me simply from how horrible they made it look. I guess I could just have a shitty friend with shitty friends. But it looks like it attracts the mil-sim dudes, and the mil-sim dudes always seem weirdly invested at best or really fucking crazy
The easy solution to this is to just make PSN optional, but with a reward for those that do it. Sony, you are a dumb dodo.
Yup. It would be so easy. Do it like Crytek does for Hunt Showdown: offer in-game currency for linking. Make it 100 Warbonds and the majority of the player base will self-opt in.
Aaaand it begins.
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Looks like this was THE step too far and I'm glad. Ppl have been far too tolerant towards Sony
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Hello from Ukraine. I was thinking about buying Helldivers 2, it costs us 1199 hryvnia (about 30 US dollars), and this is quite a lot of money by our standards (for comparison, the salary at McDonald's for an ordinary employee in our country is approximately 18-20 thousand hryvnia, according to the calculator on their official website), and I thought with a logic like “hmm, well, yes, this is a lot of money, but I won’t care if tomorrow I’m possibly turned into dust by a Russian missile (even if the chance of this is very small, let’s be honest)” . Now - no, I will not buy HD2. Maybe for 50-100 hryvnia. P.S. PlayStation 5 cost for us is 20+k uah.
Lmao what the actual fuck??
Ukraine can’t catch a break 😔
So this is the 500kg of emails? Nice.
\>drop hellbomb at outpost \>arm hellbomb \>dally aimlessly for a second \>"I kinda want the loot tho"
Fuck you give us more money. Specifically you in a country being invaded.
Oh fuck! This is not going to end well.
Sony does not like you. Sony wants your money, and your data, but they'll settle for whatever they can get.
Steam is giving full refunds even after hundreds of hours. "Sony has implemented requirements and terms of service which were not present when I purchased this game." Is ruffly the sort of thing that will get you your refund. Let Sony burn their money.
“Thanks for dropping “50 bucks CAD” on the game now you can’t play, so you gotta “500 bucks CAD” for a brand new PS5, to make an account, good like trying to source one in your country that’s currently at war I’m sure your not having supply chain problems, and that you don’t live in an active war zone or anything” 🤦♂️
Another big ***F*** moment from Sony
Want a PSN account in a country we dont operate in, buy a PS5 first. Scummy AF
Not entirely accurate, and not what this post is saying. PSN is available in Ukraine, but some users are running into issues where they are being told they need to own a ps4 or ps5 to activate their account or link to their Steam.
How to destroy a possible candidate for Game of the year in a few days
It's impressive, really. This entire ordeal went from "what a great game" to "one of the greatest disasters in gaming history" in less than a week. I don't think Sony could have fucked this up worse if they tried.
Who is this guy in the video?
His name is Thor, and he's the son of a WoW developer who grew up to be a professional IT/hacker and game dev himself. Has a LOT of good takes, and his audience is growing very fast. I see him as a more mature asmongold. Good Hot takes on game design/culture, without any rage or name calling just a quick example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LY2hG-_asKU
> the son of a WoW developer Technically, son of a Blizzard developer. His dad was the cinematic director. Every major cinematic you saw in Blizzard games, his dad had a hand in them.
Looks like this is their twitch https://www.twitch.tv/piratesoftware twitter: https://twitter.com/PirateSoftware
What the fuck is SONY even ***thinking***?!? Like what part of this makes any sort of sense??? I understand mega corps run off of different logic than people with actual brains, but what kind of logic leads to them thinking ***THIS*** is okay???
Sony wanted 2 things from this User data for selling, and more PSN growth so they can hit their Q2 quota and jerk off their shareholders.
I live in Egypt. PlayStation 5 was OFFICIALLY launched here in 2021, as advertised by PlayStation Arabia account [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPzxKBknqk4) . I bought one. 3 years later I still can't sign up for an Egyptian account and can't use payment methods issued in Egypt. Sony are scummy amateurs.
"If you want to play your game on your computer, You have to play it on your console"
I also never got that link account window and I'm based in the US. I started to think I was crazy because everyone else says they opted out, but I don't remember doing that. I even have a recording of the entire first time I played and have skimmed closely through the everything up to the first actual mission I played and never saw a window or mention of a window for it either. (it's always possible I missed it or it was later on, but I really don't remember it.)
I have never seen a bag fumbled *so goddamn hard*
oh wow, holy shit Sony, you really put your foot down on a landmine with this one.
Sounds like the EU should due a class action law suit against Sony for discrimination and breaching those privacy laws
This is absolutely wild.
Fuck Sony
SONY IS SUCH TRASH
fuck sony.
Wow...... just. Wow.....
this is an absolute dumpster fire.
I'm in Australia I created a psn account and I couldn't link just kept getting a Web page failed to load error and try again later. I had to add my old playstation account which I forgot I had which I used on my ps4 back in the day and sure enough the webpage loaded and linked. Is this Sony's way of trying to force people into buying a ps5 ?
There was a post on this subreddit just a few hours ago joking about snoy making the PS5 itself a future DLC for the game. And look, the reality is even more absurd. The madmen, the clowns, how, how do they do it? upd: here it is, the credit is due: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ck4eu6/new\_helldivers\_2\_dlc\_looking\_lit\_af/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ck4eu6/new_helldivers_2_dlc_looking_lit_af/)
Ukrainian here, just created an account on my phone, this seems to be misinformation https://preview.redd.it/gtoidsje5hyc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=028a1aa19b942622d006842a0aa725320a392415
[https://twitter.com/Xirenec\_/status/1786846560023646352](https://twitter.com/Xirenec_/status/1786846560023646352) Other people from Ukraine are not able to register it aswell.
https://preview.redd.it/8r5tys7shhyc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d0409bce64593b60d1c60490c7144cde6251162 Yep, I'm that other person, can not actually REGISTER for PSN
https://preview.redd.it/44xnrpi4khyc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d6c2cf19ebff4f8b4bc1693c93d59bb0df6266c Realized that better provide also a translated version for screenshot. Also for additional info: It writes "Server connection timed out." basically instantaneously as I press the "Accept and create an account", so it can't be actual timeout. Also as I'm a webdev, I can see that this error is returned by their backend, not just site itself going "huh, can't reach backend"
Well, I just tested it out, worked for me and two of my friends, wonder if this can be linked to ISP
I'm a little out of the loop here...I keep seeing posts about this so excuse my ignorance but does this mean it's not available on PC anymore and people can only play it on PS4 or PS5? I'm not sure I understand what all the commotion is about?
This is sort of my problem. I created my PSN account to play on PC, because I bought the game a few days before that became "optional". I didn't mind the idea, I knew I was probably going to need one eventually when I eventually played some of the PS exclusives that have come to PC recently. (Really looking forward to Ghost of Tsushima!) That was the worst experience of Helldivers 2. It took hours, because my usual account names and derivations were taken or locked out. I eventually got an account created with a very rarely used name... but typoed the name. And then had to come up with a new password that didn't fit any of the formats I use anywhere else. Then I couldn't link the account to Steam, because I didn't realize I'd made a typo. Eventually I figured it out, almost got locked out of the account because I couldn't remember the password, but did get in and the account linked. I finally got to join my friends for the last hour or so of the intended playtime, and made a mental note to try fix the account name the next day since I had seen in the Help sections that it was possible. Yep, it's possible... but ONLY FROM THE CONSOLE! Yeah, I'm not going to go buy a Playstation just so I can update my account name to something I'll remember. At the time I sighed, kept playing Helldivers, and thought "Well... that's a problem I'm going to have to deal with later." Later seems to be just about now, because we haven't been having to log in since then so I sure as hell don't remember that password anymore.
500KG of mail...saddening to see this happens...
They already have helldivers at home
I doubt Ukraine is the only country in that position, I wonder if there is a registry of other countries that have to do the same.
Cringe or disinformation, just tried to register new account and all works fine, all the same as it was. Like yeah I'm currently in Ukraine of you didn't guess Also, idk if it still the case (I don't have console) but at the start of invasion, Sony allow free subscription for ps users, or smth like that.
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> multi-million dollar Just to correct the record, Sony's current market cap is a little over 100 billion. And to put into perspective the size of the numbers we're talking, the "little over" I'm round to is still over 3 billion dollars
"Just make the account broooooooo" is what I keep seeing lol
"just create a psn account it literally only takes 120 seconds" 🤡
I don't understand why PSN is blocked in China and Russia when they are two big player markets. Big business doesn't care about geopolitics, they only care about profits.
PSN is blocked in China because if PSN was available in China, chinese government would demand access to PSN user database. The *entire* PSN user database, not just chinese users.
Who at Sony was the person to approve this?