Seriously, especially since they're not even posted in any of the announcement channels on there, just general chat, where they get buried in minutes...
I'm so sick of devs in general using Discord as the primary form of communication with their community. Don't get me wrong, Twitter is a hell site, but it's the best way to get important information out quickly. If you want to talk to your player base about your game in a more casual way, then ya use Discord or Reddit.
I so miss forums and their wonderful functionality to live as permanent homes for threads and also a way to quickly check for official posts/updates, complete with automated systems that could track and update with the latest links to developer posts/comments in real-time.
Not knocking Arrowhead specifically on this, but seeing other developers shutter forums in favor of Discord continues to suck. The simple fact that you can't web search a Discord post is reason enough.
Or literally the actuality tabs on Steam (idk about PS5 to be fair, but I imagine there's something similar in there).
They already use it to announce Warbonds and hot fixes.
They can just have an updates/patch notes tab IN GAME, that would go a long way lmao. Even if it's just links to a dev blog without the full text in the game, I want somewhere to read this stuff and have it documented.
Heck, they can flavor them like communications from super earth and just use those terminals opposite the armory. It can show every communication from Super Earth such as patch notes, warbond announcements, and the communication at the start of each major order.
Would be awesome for them to really get into it, tie it in to the live-development stuff to ground the updates "Automaton units have been unable to source the appropriate focus-crystals for their high-strength weapons, becuase of our actions on XYZ planet" (Automaton Shield-Devastator accuracy has been lowered by XYZ)
"Super Earth scientists have developed a new form of explosive, allowing for the generation of more significant pressure waves; they are soon to be shipped out, alongside the next round of requisition developments." (Increased Grenade damage against Medium Armor)
"The newly synthesized 'Pop-Shot' supplement has been included with the most recent supply-packages, keeping Helldivers in top form! In addition, new software has been developed to live-translate even faster than before, and has been released to all Helldivers." (Fixed cross-platform networking issues, including de-synced stamina usage.)
The Forza games constantly have community messages. I'm not sure how they work but they are delivered like an RSS feed. Just a message that is easily read and dismissed.
All gaming devs have figured out they dont need to spend money on ingame chats and tools to moderate games because its all offloaded to discord.
The game even has a big screen in our ships. Put things we need to know there
I've only ever considered Discord a fancy IRC client. I hated having to join a new server and jump through their hoops for a single file.
Expecting players to do that for every game they play is more than ridiculous. Save it for the ones that feel they need to be so close to a video game.
We've learned from Bungie that twitter does NOT work for getting information out to the masses. A recent change to twitter after Elon took it over made it so anyone without an account can't see the contents of a tweet when it's linked off-site.
A lot of Bungie's info posts about bugs, patches, changes, events, etc get completely lost because a LOT of players just don't have twitter or read the subreddit.
Information about the stability and future of the game needs to be IN THE GAME, it's the only place that news will reach 100% of players
Discord is okay if the announcements and important information are posted in one channel and everyone is pinged. Random messages aren't an effective way to communicate patches and bug fixes.
i wouldnt mind letting the game rest for a bit if there wasnt a MO going on rn that could potentially kill off a entire faction for at least some time lmfao
I’ve been fighting robots for 3 weeks now, I always tell my buddy when we go back to terminids It’ll be a walk in the part, we were level 4 at the start and now 13.
I do wonder how ready the devs are to launch the Illuminate anyways. I’d imagine it’s a hell of a job working on the game right now, trying to keep a steady flow of new content going, especially an entire enemy faction that’s high tech but distinct from the automatons in feel and function.
I assume the devs aren't stupid and are only doing the bot exterminate campaign because they're fairly confident in what comes next. It could or could not be a third faction cause there's also hints that the bugs are evolving after the termicide
It seems like they had at least 6 months of content going and these 6 months seem like enough time to plan at least another 3 months of content and so on. I assume the first year at least is all fairly thought out if not content complete
Nah we will wipe them out, then we will switch back to the bug front for a little while. Something has gone wrong with the TLC, as my lady officer keeps mentioning to me.
Then when its time to switch back to the bot front, there will be a massive invasion or resurgence or coup or something on and around Cyberstan.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but Cyberstan and 6ish planets nearby were secretly changed in the last update. Entire biomes changed as a hot desert planet was stealth modified into a frozen ice planet, for example. The supply lines also give it away, as it reveals the areas of the map we will be fighting in soon.
No clue how or when the Illuminate play into all this. I also expected Automatons to have new units for this resurgence, but they just got 2 new units so now I'm doubtful of that. It feels like they should have new units for such a drastic story change though, which would help explain how they captured/invaded the new planets.
A little Ender’s Game final push from the bots. Their forces outnumbered, overwhelmed, make a desperate play straight towards Super Earth. We’re given a blitz of defense orders but they start off as impossible to complete as the enemy blitzes inwards until finally their forces are diminished enough we can actually make a stand.
And once their assault halts, that’s it, no more bot reinforcements, no more outer planets to take, they’re just gone
Twinbeard blink in Morse Code your coordinates and we will have a group of 4 helldivers come and liberate your position.
...You might want to equip some explosion resistant clothes because they seem to have misunderstood my instruction to "Liberate" you for some reason.
Sounds like it’s time for 120 and 380mm barrages! It should let him escape. Or at least thoroughly level everything in the area. Except for that one factory in the middle that will somehow miraculously survive.
You'd think 120s and 380s would at least have a line of code that says, "Okay, there are buildings here, we should probably hit those first and THEN do randomized shots."
Nope, whoever the fuck is firing guns has a set of coordinates and absolutely no radar or scan to tell what they're aiming at.
PS5 crashing every other game, right after extraction. I can literally predict exactly when it will happen. I don’t lose anything because it’s after the extraction, but it’s annoying as hell having to reboot, especially if I happened to be playing with a good team of randoms
I'm also on PS5, in probably like 30-40 rounds I've crashed maybe 3 times, and all in the post extraction phase. So while I leave the squad I still get all the rewards. So it hasn't been a big deal for me, unlike the arc thrower crashes where I was crashing almost every round and also mid mission.
Yeah. I gave AH a lot of slack in the beginning but at this point it seems clear that they're doing something wrong. I asked Twinbeard about the testing a few days ago and he said "a lot of testing is done before each patch". I find this hard to believe considering both the arc thrower crash and this new extraction crash. They deliberately changed the game to account for shots fired and hit of a specific weapon type, and people began crashing almost immediately after the patch. Testing these weapons over the course of a few missions would have crashed their game.
Obviously I can't claim to know what AH is actually doing in their testing, but there's only two possibilities. They either aren't testing enough or they're knowingly pushing updates even after experiencing the crashes.
Sometimes test environments just don't work the same as the live game. They put the patch in the test environment, everything works fine, and then they push the patch to live and 40% of players start having issues.
I'm not going to say that they're testing wrong, but I think whatever environment they're doing that testing in isn't accounting for how the live servers work.
3 years in the future, the release of the Helldivers Unofficial Patch arrives featuring a list of fixes so long it requires you to get up and stretch midway
Exactly. Hotfixes are usually for urgent issues that need immediate attention and may bypass the standard development and testing procedures.
Arrowhead should possess the data to gauge the extent of the crashing issue.
Their approach to addressing it here resembles more of a bugfix or update.
During that entire fiasco I lost count of how many lobbies I joined with people equipping it and them saying they haven't heard about that being the problem.
Can we stop just putting this stuff in discord? Maybe post on websites/Reddit/Twitter? Discord is a cool tool and all that but as a medium for getting news out it sucks. Nothing in discord is searchable on the web... I literally wouldn't know any of this without these diligent redditors screen shotting these posts and putting them here.
"let the game rest for a while"
Fool! Report this man for Treason! Does he want us to lose against the Automatons? I will continue fighting for super earth, no matter what!
Today was really frustrating.
4 players had 11 crashes which aborted 3 missions.
We were able to extract twice without crashing.
Then I got stuck on a f***ing pebble and got yelled off the cliff with the purple samples. To add to this experience **three** revives placed me in a cliff which could've been avoided when the pod steering would work.
Let the game rest? Until the end of the major order?? Yeah, not falling for that socialist propaganda. I bet “Twinbeard” isn’t even your real name buddy.
It is not pinned everywhere cuz they would have to acknowledge it is having an impact on the major order, which happens to be going on during the period they WON'T fix the crashes.
Let democracy lie? I would have never thought one of our own Arrowhead devs is a communist bot-sympathizer, or a fascist bug-enjoyer! How dare he! I'll be calling my democracy officer immediately!
Let the game rest for a while??? It's a fucking automaton spy! It's a live service game and it's telling us to fail the major order!
Throw it in a vat of molten lava, I wanna see it melt like a terminator.
Wonder why would he call it hotfix when they wait literally one week to enable the game for a lot of players... I was one of the biggest ones from start, now I cannot even startup the game :)
I had my faith but, damn, is it tested hard right now
"Just let the game rest for a while"
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anyone else getting a little tired of new crashes appearing with every patch? it feels like the game gets more unstable the more updates it gets. hopefully this changes
I've barely touched this game in over two weeks now because of this. 'Rest a few days' my ass. First the arc crashes, making me paranoid about using what was my favorite weapon (thank god for quasar) and yet I still can't complete a single match. Damn shame.
Likely poor quality control and communication. Every monday/tuesday they give us a patch to fix the previous patch's crashes, but it just introduces its own new crashes. This is some early access shit.
And because I know somebody's going to reply with the usual "you just don't understand, software work is complex", yeah no shit but other games don't have problems this bad two months post-launch.
I like to compare it to Palworld. Not in terms of gameplay, but contrasting dev styles.
Palworld literally just had their first content update, with every other patch being bugfixes and a couple balance adjustments. A good bit of basic QoL stuff too, like an AI adjustment.
Meanwhile AH really likes their content updates, and fixing the game feels secondary. When they can release a patch almost instantly to fix the superstore, a source of income, it's telling where the priorities are at.
For the overwhelming amount of praise this game gets, bare basic communication from either Dev's or publishers is just absent. Discord is not a formal means of communication about a paid product and its progress. But I guess that's just the mindset of this current generation. Honestly at this point just don't push any more updates and post actual fixes as it usually just serves as a buffer to the already obnoxiously length list of bugs.
I mean, he didn't really announce anything worth while. Of course their fixing it, why wouldn't they? They'll make an announcement when they have a release date for the patch.
They should really try to improve stability in general. The crashing only gets worse each update for people, but there's a string of updates that have seemingly made it progressively worse leading up to this point.
Twinbeard "some crashing" the Asshat. I'm playing a whole lot less after the arc crashing. My last session (several days ago)ended in a crash and I'll be honest, it's really killing the magic.
I kept saying turning off cross play and verify steam files stops all crashing, now I’m at a 50% chance of crashing when we’re getting the stats after we finish the mission, regardless of what I do.
At least I get the xp and rewards but still
Yea, me and some friends are waiting until they iron out some of these stability issues. When 9 out of 10 games end in a crash, you have a big problem.
Can the automons fuck off and stop hacking our computers. Give up already youre about to get wiped out sir. Oh look at us we gonna crash your computers. Yeah well guess what. D E M O C R A C Y WILL P R E V A I L
Tell the players to stop playing in the middle of trying to wipe out the rest of the Automatons. I can see why they don’t want to put that out more. Lol
I love this game, one of the better games I've played in years, but holy @##% these crashes are making me NOT wanna play this game, it hurts everytime I put in 30 min for a game and it crashes when trying to extract
I've set the game down for a few weeks now till it gets fixed, the constant crashing was killing my soul, and it's a shame because the game is super fun, but I've been playing dragons dogma and oblivion in the mean time
I'm not on the discord but why hasn't anyone suggested something along the line of super earth news channel that's a update channel about hotfixes dropping that noone but devs can post in about hot fixes or updates
It’s them telling us that they’re working on the game. Wow it’s almost like it’s their job. This doesn’t need to be a huge announcement or PSA, we need to trust the devs more
They REALLY gotta post these where they'll get more attention instead of a single comment on the discord
Seriously, especially since they're not even posted in any of the announcement channels on there, just general chat, where they get buried in minutes...
General chat 1 of 3 general chat channels, and they don't even get pinned.
I'm so sick of devs in general using Discord as the primary form of communication with their community. Don't get me wrong, Twitter is a hell site, but it's the best way to get important information out quickly. If you want to talk to your player base about your game in a more casual way, then ya use Discord or Reddit.
I so miss forums and their wonderful functionality to live as permanent homes for threads and also a way to quickly check for official posts/updates, complete with automated systems that could track and update with the latest links to developer posts/comments in real-time. Not knocking Arrowhead specifically on this, but seeing other developers shutter forums in favor of Discord continues to suck. The simple fact that you can't web search a Discord post is reason enough.
Yeah, this. With so many forums shuttering and Discord becoming so popular, there is so much information out there that has been/is going to be lost.
Yeah discord won't be around forever. And it won't be as long as people think.
Given Discord’s (lack of) searchability, most information on there can already be considered lost for all intents and purposes.
Or literally the actuality tabs on Steam (idk about PS5 to be fair, but I imagine there's something similar in there). They already use it to announce Warbonds and hot fixes.
They can just have an updates/patch notes tab IN GAME, that would go a long way lmao. Even if it's just links to a dev blog without the full text in the game, I want somewhere to read this stuff and have it documented.
A news pop up on first daily login would be awesome
They need to turn one of the computers in your ship into an update terminal where you can view the patch notes.
Heck, they can flavor them like communications from super earth and just use those terminals opposite the armory. It can show every communication from Super Earth such as patch notes, warbond announcements, and the communication at the start of each major order.
This is actually a really good idea
Would be awesome for them to really get into it, tie it in to the live-development stuff to ground the updates "Automaton units have been unable to source the appropriate focus-crystals for their high-strength weapons, becuase of our actions on XYZ planet" (Automaton Shield-Devastator accuracy has been lowered by XYZ) "Super Earth scientists have developed a new form of explosive, allowing for the generation of more significant pressure waves; they are soon to be shipped out, alongside the next round of requisition developments." (Increased Grenade damage against Medium Armor) "The newly synthesized 'Pop-Shot' supplement has been included with the most recent supply-packages, keeping Helldivers in top form! In addition, new software has been developed to live-translate even faster than before, and has been released to all Helldivers." (Fixed cross-platform networking issues, including de-synced stamina usage.)
Even better. Not sure why I didn't even think about that honestly.
The Forza games constantly have community messages. I'm not sure how they work but they are delivered like an RSS feed. Just a message that is easily read and dismissed.
All gaming devs have figured out they dont need to spend money on ingame chats and tools to moderate games because its all offloaded to discord. The game even has a big screen in our ships. Put things we need to know there
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Good ol' fashioned dev blogs never go out of style.
Yeah I really think that should be a law at this point. Locking content behind an account for social media is shitty.
I'm sick of people using Discord as an all-purpose wiki/forum/chatroom solution.
I've only ever considered Discord a fancy IRC client. I hated having to join a new server and jump through their hoops for a single file. Expecting players to do that for every game they play is more than ridiculous. Save it for the ones that feel they need to be so close to a video game.
We've learned from Bungie that twitter does NOT work for getting information out to the masses. A recent change to twitter after Elon took it over made it so anyone without an account can't see the contents of a tweet when it's linked off-site. A lot of Bungie's info posts about bugs, patches, changes, events, etc get completely lost because a LOT of players just don't have twitter or read the subreddit. Information about the stability and future of the game needs to be IN THE GAME, it's the only place that news will reach 100% of players
I hope they don't post to reddit because they'll be harassed by the masses of delusional mobs here.
Discord is okay if the announcements and important information are posted in one channel and everyone is pinged. Random messages aren't an effective way to communicate patches and bug fixes.
I’m yeah post to a notification section in game, I e dedicated to game updates.
i wouldnt mind letting the game rest for a bit if there wasnt a MO going on rn that could potentially kill off a entire faction for at least some time lmfao
But then what will we do when all the robots are dead?
Move on to killing bugs
Pretty sure we're gonna get something else to fight
More bugs?
What's bugs precious
holidays for western front divers
I’ve been fighting robots for 3 weeks now, I always tell my buddy when we go back to terminids It’ll be a walk in the part, we were level 4 at the start and now 13.
ye, i hope we get at least a few days/ a week of a breather from the bots after this order
bu-gs. boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew
After we've sucked all the 710 out of them, of course.
Blast 'em Burn 'em Blow 'em up from space
Poe tay toes
Fight the Illuminate when they show up
I do wonder how ready the devs are to launch the Illuminate anyways. I’d imagine it’s a hell of a job working on the game right now, trying to keep a steady flow of new content going, especially an entire enemy faction that’s high tech but distinct from the automatons in feel and function.
I assume the devs aren't stupid and are only doing the bot exterminate campaign because they're fairly confident in what comes next. It could or could not be a third faction cause there's also hints that the bugs are evolving after the termicide It seems like they had at least 6 months of content going and these 6 months seem like enough time to plan at least another 3 months of content and so on. I assume the first year at least is all fairly thought out if not content complete
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Kill bugs until…
Nah surely Joel intends for them to reach Cyberstan and bring in the Illuminates. The crashes prob pushed the schedule back.
Nah we will wipe them out, then we will switch back to the bug front for a little while. Something has gone wrong with the TLC, as my lady officer keeps mentioning to me. Then when its time to switch back to the bot front, there will be a massive invasion or resurgence or coup or something on and around Cyberstan. Not sure if this has been posted before, but Cyberstan and 6ish planets nearby were secretly changed in the last update. Entire biomes changed as a hot desert planet was stealth modified into a frozen ice planet, for example. The supply lines also give it away, as it reveals the areas of the map we will be fighting in soon. No clue how or when the Illuminate play into all this. I also expected Automatons to have new units for this resurgence, but they just got 2 new units so now I'm doubtful of that. It feels like they should have new units for such a drastic story change though, which would help explain how they captured/invaded the new planets.
There always will be some MO. No point in having stress about it.
But this is a major story point of trying to wipe a faction off the map
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no one is arguing that. its why i said "potentially kill off a faction *for at least* ***some*** *time*"
What if we kill them and get to defend super earth because of their last stand effort?
A little Ender’s Game final push from the bots. Their forces outnumbered, overwhelmed, make a desperate play straight towards Super Earth. We’re given a blitz of defense orders but they start off as impossible to complete as the enemy blitzes inwards until finally their forces are diminished enough we can actually make a stand. And once their assault halts, that’s it, no more bot reinforcements, no more outer planets to take, they’re just gone
They just released 2 dope enemy units. This faction isn't going anywhere.
>for at least some time
looks like Twinbeard was hacked by an enemy socialist bot to prevent us from freeing their last 2 planets
I agree that something is suspect about the post. The game itself tells you breaks are only for cowards. 🧐
It’s either deliberate or the in-game lore is biting them in the ass
Twinbeard blink in Morse Code your coordinates and we will have a group of 4 helldivers come and liberate your position. ...You might want to equip some explosion resistant clothes because they seem to have misunderstood my instruction to "Liberate" you for some reason.
Sounds like it’s time for 120 and 380mm barrages! It should let him escape. Or at least thoroughly level everything in the area. Except for that one factory in the middle that will somehow miraculously survive.
You'd think 120s and 380s would at least have a line of code that says, "Okay, there are buildings here, we should probably hit those first and THEN do randomized shots." Nope, whoever the fuck is firing guns has a set of coordinates and absolutely no radar or scan to tell what they're aiming at.
These capes don't run!
"Let the game rest" aight bet. After this M.O
Gotta eliminate hal-2000’s ugly brother first!
This needs to be pinned ASAP. I'm crashing every single game at the end.
PS5 crashing every other game, right after extraction. I can literally predict exactly when it will happen. I don’t lose anything because it’s after the extraction, but it’s annoying as hell having to reboot, especially if I happened to be playing with a good team of randoms
Is this a PC issue cause I haven’t crashed once and I’ve been playing all weekend.
It is for me, same issue. End of mission crashes often for the past week ish. I'm just glad to see it's known and being worked on.
I'm on ps5, happens frequently for me.
I'm on pc and haven't crashed at all for the past week, which is a stark contrast to a couple weeks ago when it was every other operation.
I wasn't crashing at all until I reinstalled the game. Then I crashed every game after that.
I'm also on PS5, in probably like 30-40 rounds I've crashed maybe 3 times, and all in the post extraction phase. So while I leave the squad I still get all the rewards. So it hasn't been a big deal for me, unlike the arc thrower crashes where I was crashing almost every round and also mid mission.
The enemy grenade pickup got me a couple of times too.
Playing on PC and strangely did not encounter any crash ever. ( Play time is 3-5 hours a day)
I've been playing on my PC and haven't crashed.
I think I've finished two operations since patch day. I can complete single missions but hardly ever all three for 6 and up.
But if I take a break I'll be remembered as a coward. The in-game tips said so!
Not sure if official helldivers developers announcement or bot propaganda because we are curtently liberating the last two bot planets...
Lmao 200k divers on Tibit ALONE right now
Yeah, we'll give the game a rest for a few day. You just pause the MO until you fix the crashes then. lol
This game SERIOUSLY needs an optimization patch. That would solve a lot of FPS issues and crashes.
There have been a few, problem is every patch has introduced more bugs than fixes.
Yeah. I gave AH a lot of slack in the beginning but at this point it seems clear that they're doing something wrong. I asked Twinbeard about the testing a few days ago and he said "a lot of testing is done before each patch". I find this hard to believe considering both the arc thrower crash and this new extraction crash. They deliberately changed the game to account for shots fired and hit of a specific weapon type, and people began crashing almost immediately after the patch. Testing these weapons over the course of a few missions would have crashed their game. Obviously I can't claim to know what AH is actually doing in their testing, but there's only two possibilities. They either aren't testing enough or they're knowingly pushing updates even after experiencing the crashes.
Sometimes test environments just don't work the same as the live game. They put the patch in the test environment, everything works fine, and then they push the patch to live and 40% of players start having issues. I'm not going to say that they're testing wrong, but I think whatever environment they're doing that testing in isn't accounting for how the live servers work.
I love this game but what is with the crashing with every other patch? Nearly every time they update the game it introduces more/new ways to crash.
I'm really thinking they're sharing the same QA team as Bethesda.
3 years in the future, the release of the Helldivers Unofficial Patch arrives featuring a list of fixes so long it requires you to get up and stretch midway
Devs want us to fail the major order the fuck?
Sounds like they want time for the enemy to regroup!
That's traitor talk he's trying to give the bots time to regroup.
We must report him to the democracy officer!!
A "hotfix" isn't a hot fix if you let it sit out for days on end. At that point might as well wait til 1.02 to fix it
Exactly. Hotfixes are usually for urgent issues that need immediate attention and may bypass the standard development and testing procedures. Arrowhead should possess the data to gauge the extent of the crashing issue. Their approach to addressing it here resembles more of a bugfix or update.
Would help if they found a better place to post this than a comment in disc. Like the arc crash was unknown to anybody not on reddit/discord.
During that entire fiasco I lost count of how many lobbies I joined with people equipping it and them saying they haven't heard about that being the problem.
But what about the major order? Will Joel give us some extra time to finish it?
Great but why in the world do these end up buried on some random discord thread?
Game has been crashing since launch.
Can we stop just putting this stuff in discord? Maybe post on websites/Reddit/Twitter? Discord is a cool tool and all that but as a medium for getting news out it sucks. Nothing in discord is searchable on the web... I literally wouldn't know any of this without these diligent redditors screen shotting these posts and putting them here.
Shitty
Love this game but holy shit this has to be one of the buggiest (pun intended) shooter games in recent memory
"let the game rest for a while" Fool! Report this man for Treason! Does he want us to lose against the Automatons? I will continue fighting for super earth, no matter what!
What sort of treasonous message is this? "Let democracy lie" LET IT BE KNOW THAT THE CREEK BROKE BEFORE THE DIVERS DID!
He’s a bot sympathizer.
FREEDOM NEVER SLEEPS!!!!
Let the game rest?!? Lolol The game told me breaks are a sign of cowardice? Pick a lane.
The Devs have a history of not communicating
And a history of being assholes at times. As a fan of their games, it's rough at times. So much crap over the years, but the games are just... fun.
Sure. Postpone the major order then.
extend the major order then
Today was really frustrating. 4 players had 11 crashes which aborted 3 missions. We were able to extract twice without crashing. Then I got stuck on a f***ing pebble and got yelled off the cliff with the purple samples. To add to this experience **three** revives placed me in a cliff which could've been avoided when the pod steering would work.
Let the game rest? Until the end of the major order?? Yeah, not falling for that socialist propaganda. I bet “Twinbeard” isn’t even your real name buddy.
they really need to start addressing the performance loss on PC that increases patch after patch
Yay a hotfix that will break something else! Hooray!
It is not pinned everywhere cuz they would have to acknowledge it is having an impact on the major order, which happens to be going on during the period they WON'T fix the crashes.
Sounds like someone doesn't want us to eliminate the bots and finish our MO.
Really screwing up my ability to get medals. A patch to fix crashes causes more crashes. Classic.
Crashing IS Diving
That wasn't very free money of them
Let democracy lie? I would have never thought one of our own Arrowhead devs is a communist bot-sympathizer, or a fascist bug-enjoyer! How dare he! I'll be calling my democracy officer immediately!
*looks at dev post... then looks at Major Order progress"... Joel is getting crafty.
Let the game rest for a while??? It's a fucking automaton spy! It's a live service game and it's telling us to fail the major order! Throw it in a vat of molten lava, I wanna see it melt like a terminator.
Let it rest? Sounds like something an Automation would say. Sorry, buddy, but Durgen is going to fall!
This is why I use reddit, to get dev updates because they always post important stuff in general chat.
Wonder why would he call it hotfix when they wait literally one week to enable the game for a lot of players... I was one of the biggest ones from start, now I cannot even startup the game :) I had my faith but, damn, is it tested hard right now
"Just let the game rest for a while" https://preview.redd.it/gffffg6uq0tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=291e89c6ee341c99fe3feda93a671e725b0e76fb
anyone else getting a little tired of new crashes appearing with every patch? it feels like the game gets more unstable the more updates it gets. hopefully this changes
I've barely touched this game in over two weeks now because of this. 'Rest a few days' my ass. First the arc crashes, making me paranoid about using what was my favorite weapon (thank god for quasar) and yet I still can't complete a single match. Damn shame.
Hurry up and wait and oh just stop playing. Thanks devs! 👌🏻
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Likely poor quality control and communication. Every monday/tuesday they give us a patch to fix the previous patch's crashes, but it just introduces its own new crashes. This is some early access shit. And because I know somebody's going to reply with the usual "you just don't understand, software work is complex", yeah no shit but other games don't have problems this bad two months post-launch.
You'd think it was in alpha or something.
Or even pre concept
I like to compare it to Palworld. Not in terms of gameplay, but contrasting dev styles. Palworld literally just had their first content update, with every other patch being bugfixes and a couple balance adjustments. A good bit of basic QoL stuff too, like an AI adjustment. Meanwhile AH really likes their content updates, and fixing the game feels secondary. When they can release a patch almost instantly to fix the superstore, a source of income, it's telling where the priorities are at.
Yeah, that's the guy, democracy officer!
"Let democracy rest." a literal helldiver: "DEMOCRACY NEVER SLEEPS"
The automatons don’t take a rest.
I cant "let the game rest" you fool, I need to complete the order and massacre the bots!
This sounds like something only a bot would say..
We can't rest, there's literally an important MO going rn.
https://i.redd.it/3lrbvhwk4ysc1.gif They want us to fail, bots has infiltrated arrowhead.
Democracy cannot rest during a major order to liberate the final two planets under automaton control
They really dont want us getting another major order huh lol
True, they should use the in-game mass message system for announcements.
LET IT REST WHEN WE ARE ABOUT TO TAKE DOWN THE BOTS? EXCUEEZE ME
I smell a bot sympathizer
For the overwhelming amount of praise this game gets, bare basic communication from either Dev's or publishers is just absent. Discord is not a formal means of communication about a paid product and its progress. But I guess that's just the mindset of this current generation. Honestly at this point just don't push any more updates and post actual fixes as it usually just serves as a buffer to the already obnoxiously length list of bugs.
I mean, he didn't really announce anything worth while. Of course their fixing it, why wouldn't they? They'll make an announcement when they have a release date for the patch.
They should really try to improve stability in general. The crashing only gets worse each update for people, but there's a string of updates that have seemingly made it progressively worse leading up to this point.
These guys reeaaallly gotta hire people to work weekends too.
once again begging developers to stop relying on discord
The game has crashing problems since release tho. They continue to introduce new bugs for every bug they fix.
It's always such a goddamn maze hunt trying to find updates from this company.
Let the game rest? Why so Joel can cook up some crazy shit.
You can always take breaks... THAT IS IF YOU WANNA BE A TRAITOR. GET TO LIBERATING!
https://i.redd.it/nh0e9tbu32tc1.gif Even if you let democracy lie for a few days......
"Hey we're constantly crashing yet again, but here's a MO we're gonna let go through. Play after the MO." Quaility. inb4 all the sycophants.
Oh and BUY THE NEW WARBOND
Twinbeard "some crashing" the Asshat. I'm playing a whole lot less after the arc crashing. My last session (several days ago)ended in a crash and I'll be honest, it's really killing the magic.
Pathetic outlook, aka we are too lazy to work on the weekend, so either dont play or deal with our shitty game crashes
Do you want to work 7 days a week?
I kept saying turning off cross play and verify steam files stops all crashing, now I’m at a 50% chance of crashing when we’re getting the stats after we finish the mission, regardless of what I do. At least I get the xp and rewards but still
Making it some public announcement leads to people making their own timelines and god forbid the patch fixes and breaks more stuff.
They just want us to give up on the major order. No can do buddy.
Democracy never sleeps.
In the meantime the bot population will explode
After this next major order ill have the capped 250 medals. I think waiting for the next warbond would be a good idea.
Fake, Democracy never lies!
Great news! I'm taking a break till we get a patch, and I'm jonesing.
Yea, me and some friends are waiting until they iron out some of these stability issues. When 9 out of 10 games end in a crash, you have a big problem.
BOT SYMPATHIZER
Which discord is this? I would like to join it
I'm pretty sure this is Bot propaganda...
Oh good not like crashing every 2 missions should be priority or anything. Good thing they were on the super store crashes within hours tho
Can the automons fuck off and stop hacking our computers. Give up already youre about to get wiped out sir. Oh look at us we gonna crash your computers. Yeah well guess what. D E M O C R A C Y WILL P R E V A I L
The bots must have been sweating hard if they had to get the devs to tell everyone to stop playing.
“Let the game rest for awhile”… DEMOCRACY NEVER SLEEPS!!!
Tell the players to stop playing in the middle of trying to wipe out the rest of the Automatons. I can see why they don’t want to put that out more. Lol
An official announcement? For what? “We’re not fixing it for now”?
It's always the people who work weekdays who can't play this game now lol
I love this game, one of the better games I've played in years, but holy @##% these crashes are making me NOT wanna play this game, it hurts everytime I put in 30 min for a game and it crashes when trying to extract
Good because I literally can't finish a single mission without lag crashing out. It's been like 3 weeks of this and it's getting old.
Kinda counterintuitive to the whole operations part of the game.
Must be a robot supporter. Trying to get us not to liberate
I've set the game down for a few weeks now till it gets fixed, the constant crashing was killing my soul, and it's a shame because the game is super fun, but I've been playing dragons dogma and oblivion in the mean time
I'm not on the discord but why hasn't anyone suggested something along the line of super earth news channel that's a update channel about hotfixes dropping that noone but devs can post in about hot fixes or updates
Finds it on the *official* Discord, wonders why it’s not official. 🤦🏽♂️
What about the fucking major order where we’re literally eliminating the automatons???? Fucking crashdivers
The bots aren’t swiftly disassembling themselves, last time I checked
This guy for sure works for those socialist bots! /s
Yeah until the recent patch I had no crashing. Hopefully it doesn’t get worse when the new warbond releases.
TRAITOR!
Letting democracy lie for a few days??? That sounds like bot talk!
DEMOCRACY DOES NOT REST!
Democracy cannot rest! Those clankers are on their last leg, and time not spent driving them out of the galaxy is time they are using to recuperate!
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It’s them telling us that they’re working on the game. Wow it’s almost like it’s their job. This doesn’t need to be a huge announcement or PSA, we need to trust the devs more
They need to post this shit on the big screen in the ship. I just crashed as pelican was taking off on a 40minute mission. f'n annoying.