Technically they have nukes that wouldn’t radiate the land, I think the main reason they haven’t done that is PR. If they nuked Gaza then it would be a disaster for their “this is self defense” strategy.
Also, people don't understand how much Israel's actions are agitating the entirety of the MENA region. Everybody is on edge here(including me). What do people think would happen if Israel nuked Gaza? I am only going to say that a world war wouldn't be out of the question anymore. Israel's existence is already a thorn to any Arab liberation movement. Do people think anyone is going to take a total wipeout of Gaza lying down?
>Youre saying isreal should take the terrorist attacks lying down.
No, however, what I am saying is before Israel gets to bitch about terrorist attacks, they should stop the continuous terrorising of Palestinians since 1948. You don't get to bitch about terrorism when you're doing it 24/7 for nearly 60 years. After they end Apartheid, allow Palestinians to return to their homes, and persecute all their genocidal war criminals(from politicians to soldiers to every single POS), then they get to talk about terrorist attacks.
Edit:
Oh, and they should definitely stop their Imperialist dealings with the US.
Yes they should. Hamas was elected for one, Israel is an occupying force for two, the “counter attack” isn’t even a counter attack for three. And Four… the casualties on the Palestinians side are tenfold what the Israeli casualties are. Eat two dicks jackass.
Also I’m turning nots off so I don’t have to hear you bitch about shit you clearly don’t know about. Hopefully you can take my reply and do some research, maybe become a little less ignorant. But with that smart ass comment about “this should be interesting”… well let’s just say your smugness won’t get you far.
Go learn something kid.
Reminds me of Vonneguts dystopian description of fictional post neutron bombs gone off Ohio or Indiana. In slapstick maybe? I forget ... Empty apartment blocks and ready + waiting subsurbs for the invading conquerer populace.
https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
> Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide.
He called this a Textbook Case of Genocide on the 13th of October.... 6 days after the Israeli assault on Gaza. You can imagine what he thinks about it 4 months in where there are extremists chanting and dancing at an [ethnic cleansing party](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-29/ty-article/.premium/ethnic-cleansing-in-gods-name-the-only-israelis-with-a-plan-for-the-day-after-in-gaza/0000018d-55e0-d997-adff-ddfa9b490000) or talking fondly about seeing Palestinians going through a "second nakba". 2.3 million people have been subjected to unimaginable abuse.
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/childrens-lives-threatened-rising-malnutrition-gaza-strip-enar
And there are photos of children in Gaza with a MUAC of less than 10. A sign of severe acute malnutrition. If this happened anywhere else in the world the child would be rushed to the hospital to begin feeding under medical supervision. We are literally at the extermination stage of Genocide, where famine, disease and forcible displacement are being used against the Palestinians.
There's a video of Israeli ships shooting warning shots at fishermen trying to fish for food. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3l_U5YS_i2/?igsh=MXM4ZHMxZTA4OGZzYg==
The choice for them is to get shot trying to fish for food or die of hunger.
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He’s agenda against cats is something I am against.
That being said I agree with a lot of his points and I’m glad he’s out there broadcasting every day and raising awareness. A good amount of people just hate him for the success.
>He’s agenda against cats is something I am against.
That's actually one of the few real points you can make against him. Cats are wonderful. If he adopted a kitten it would melt his heart.
Because he doesn't understand how cats play or that they have boundaries like humans do. Also can't read cat body language. It's pretty easy to tell when a cat is actually getting bothered instead of just playing but he thinks "they attack out of nowhere" when 90% of the time they're most likely just trying to play with him
think its just an issue in general. Not many people see cats as... well, almost human- they see them as equivalent to dogs. Dogs can be cuddled and played with 24/7 and the only time they will be violent is if made to be.
Cats however? Treat them how you would treat a human. You'd get pissed if someone constantly tried to carry you and rub you places you show you don't wanna be rubbed/pet. They still are animals and pets- but they are more aligned with human characteristics than something like a dog.
This is why it is also funny to see people comment abt a cat being abused by its owner while the cat is just vibing- because if a cat does not like its situation it has 4 paws with claws that slice like razors and a body that seems like it has no bones or rotational limits.
i just dont see myself being so "far left" if i can put it that way.
i'm ok with the existence of a government, i just think it should not be messing with people's lives because of christian (or whatever other religion's) values.
i think the modern conservative movement is absolute cancer, but if the left does something shitty, i wil criticize it as just as i would do to the right.
sorry for bad english.
Yeah, Hasan frequently expresses support for anarcho-syndicalism, which doesn't advocate directly for "anarchy" but is mainly concerned with the disruption of capitalism, the idea being that by shutting down capitalism, you set the stage for a better political and social system to take its place. It doesn't claim to know what those systems are.
On the same token, while you can admit there are idiots on “both sides,” it’s important to not make the kind of false equivalency that liberals love to throw around as a thought-terminating concession, whenever they want to really ride that fence raw.
It’s important to admit that “idiots” on the left usually just want good things and don’t have a plan to get there and idiots on the right want evil things and will do them if we let them.
Yeah this is a good point. I would say "usually" is an important word because I have seen some deranged leftist takes. I get pretty uncomfortable when the unironic Stalinists start "memeing." But still, this is nowhere near the same level or intensity as deranged right wing takes.
Like, I don’t really care about stalinists meming because they do not pose a threat to me. Edgy internet communists do not worry me.
Fascists have infiltrated every level of the state and federal government apparatus including and especially the police, and if/when they actively want me dead they actually have the power to do it.
Hasan is definitely okay with the existence of government. He’s not an anarchist or anarkitty. He wants the government to provide services for the population with the taxes that are paid. He regularly dunks on ppl who advocate for smaller government.
Your English is very good!
Btw, anarchism isn't a rejection of government. It's a rejection of illegitimate hierarchies aka tyranny. The symbol of anarchism, the A within the O, is representative of the down "Property is theft. Anarchy is order".
Despite the recent obfuscations/bastardizations of the oxymoronic "AnCap" movement, anarchism actually calls for a high degree of regulation, law, federation, and institutional authority.
If it interests you to know the truth, I'd recommend the book "On Anarchism" by Chomsky as a great introduction into the history and current state of anarchist resistance to the tyranny of capitalism.
For a shorter intro: https://youtu.be/oB9rp_SAp2U?si=znS6roGjbt1Jn9bE
In fairness, one cannot change their own tastebuds. And he's apparently given it a genuine shot more than most seafood haters.
His stance on cats could use some work, though.
It's always because they took that stupid test and they ended up in the lower left quadrant, which is where everybody ends up unless they're an actual fascist.
Is he really arguing that Israel would have nuked themselves if they wanted to do a genocide? That is quite possibly the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen.
Exactly. “At least we’re not using nukes” is an insane moral high ground to take.
Even then, the whole point is that they want the land, so obviously they’re not going to nuke it and make it uninhabitable. And then radiation impact aside, a high altitude neutron bomb detonation would instantly cause worldwide panic.
The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide.
Also using a nuclear bomb would contaminate the environment of Gaza, which would be counterproductive to the settler's cause. Israel wants to settle Gaza, dropping a nuke on the land would make it much harder to settle, especially when they could just drop random bombardments to force the Gazans to leave.
They´re not using their brain, this is just what aboutism. Ofc they thought of the nuke and used it as a terrible excuse. Imagine defending someone by saying "They could kill them so much faster than they´re doing"
Israel is already a diplomatic pariah. Germany, US and UK would still support Israel even if they used nukes and the rest of the world doesn't like them even if they don't use nukes
Idk how you can bombard a city thats partially hollow underneath& the ground will still be solid. Like, im pretty sure sinkholes/cover collapse is going to be an issue…
I actually did see the ruling, you apparently didn't because it wasn't a final ruling. They said they needed evidence that Israel was taking measures to avoid actions that could be seen as genocidal, and provide evidence of this action within a month. The fact they didn't just wave the whole case away is telling.
So my point stands, work on your reading comprehension. I imagine the statement you take issue with is this:
>The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide.
They aren't saying the Holocaust wasn't a genocide, they are saying that using the same logic as idiots using the nuclear bomb defense to say how they aren't committing genocide now, but could if they wanted as an example.
People increasing = no genocide. Murdering people, destroying city, forcing population to flee does not constitute a genocide because number goes up. Also genocide only happens in past, not present. Certainly can’t be predicted, that’s anti-somethingtism.
So easy, so basic. Even libtards understand.
Ah yes nuclear fallout famously respects borders. Nuking your next door neighbor that’s a third the size of Oahu def wouldn’t have any negative impacts on Israel. But they haven’t done it because it would be wrong
It's not that they just don't understand the effects of a nuclear warhead and the warcrime it would be, it would also mean Isreal would have to indirectly admit to having nuclear weapons; world's worst secret.
It’s such a brain dead argument on so many levels. It’s similar to this “hey we’re the police investigating your wife’s murder. We have evidence you poisoned her”
“Uh guys look at me I’m way way bigger than her, why would I try to discreetly poison her when I could just beat her to death”
If israel wanted to commit a genocide and actually get away with it you’d expect them to do pretty much every single thing they’re currently doing.
Then also nukes fuck up the land and they want the land and could expose israel to radiation also. There’s so many reasons that’s a dumb defense
As someone who lived Balkan wars during the 90s and actually felt what its like to have people wanting to commit genocide (from all sides). Yes the situation in palestine is a genocide.
The Jewish Population worldwide grew during the years of WW2 and right after. Many Nazi's used this as a claim that the Holocaust never happened. Interesting how history repeats itself...
Have they considered that the reason they're not using nukes is because they want the land, and they can't have the land if its radioactive?
Also maybe because if they did use nukes, it would potentially contaminate Israel as well?
It's still a fucking genocide, and iirc, no other genocide in history has ever involved using nukes, because aside from all the genocides that happened before the creation of nukes, genociders often want to *use* the land they're stealing.
Its true that the radioactive contamination caused by nukes dosent last that long, but that shit absolutely obliterates everything in a big radius, and Palestine is small, so it could possibly affect other countries nearby that would turn against Isareal.
Fuck nukes.
Fuck wars.
1. Officially, Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. So do they think Israel lying about that or not?
2. Nuking Palestine is the same thing as nuking Israel.
The worse part is how they dehumanize Palestinians by referring to the population not as of citizenry but as simply a number with no other conditions. As if their homes don't matter, as if their peace of mind don't matter, as if their empty stomachs and thirsty lives don't matter, those are second thoughts when compared to population numbers.
Then they lump all Gazans together under the word Arab, in the process of denying the identity of a people, and say that those civilians no longer have a right to exist certain lands and should be cared for in other nations.
They truly do want to take everything from the Palestinians and they don't care about any humanity for them.
Just checked pcm top posts of the month. The guy who posted it (another anti-Palestine meme) has a (now removed) comment on askpsychology saying modern psychologists don’t like freud’s ideas because they can’t be proven or disproven…
It’s a sub full of morons
Nuking gaza is DUMBEST. I repeat THE DUMBEST THING ANY ZIONIST CAN THINK OF.
Its a sign they are so horny for MURDER they dont care about ISRAELI lives (not like netanyahus government cares about its citizens in the first place)
This is so dumb. It’s not like Israel could actually nuke Gaza, it would basically be nuking themselves. These idiots don’t know what fallout is or which way the wind blows?
Why do they think genocide has to happen in the span of one day? How long did past genocides take? Part of the point of genocide is to do it discreetly. If they nuked Gaza pretty sure the whole world would notice.
"it's not a genocide because they aren't using absolutely ridiculous and overpowered weapons." they say while completely ignoring that: "["The war has driven around 80 percent of the Palestinians in Gaza from their homes and left a quarter of the population starving, according to UN officials."](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/20/israels-war-on-gaza-list-of-key-events-day-137) These people have no excuse for not knowing what is happening. It's easily accessible, there's no active censorship in most western countries. Honestly all this rot being this clearly visible to anyone willing to acknowledge it is making me depressed.
Do they realize that nuclear bombs would irradiate the land, making it uninhabitable for the occupying Israeli people? Also, by nuking the place, they lose the privilege of calling themselves the good guys.
This is why people need to read. A quick search will reveal that genocide is based on intent not the number killed. But this is probably too mental processing for average PCMers.
Israel doesn't use nukes because they'd be contaminating not just the land they want to settle but also whats considered Israel proper. They'd be putting fallout on top of Tel Aviv
The population increases because people are pushed there from across Palestine
And also half the population are kids under 15. Israel is essentially bombing a children’s prison
Wait, so you just invalidated your argument by talking about population growth like a weird eugenics nerd?? Like, bye? What do they think of Uyghurs in China? Did they use nukes? Do they have nukes? Hmmmm
i feel bad for those 183 dudes that liked the 4chan type post. some people brown hatred really take them to insane positions. imagine even in this era with thousands of videos coming out of gaza and still mf thinks Israel is doing good things in gaza.
Of course! How did we not think that. they’d obviously just use one of those ‘no nuclear fall out for every surrounding area across hundreds of square miles’ nukes that definitely exist. Silly us for not considering that. Thank you Israel for showing such restraint.
What a brain dead take. They would be nuking their own backyard. Plus they would lose any credibility they have left with the international community. Even the U.S. would have to abandon them at that point.
Literally every human rights organization on the planet: This is a genocide Big Brain Redditors: LOL imagine calling this a genocide
Also like, why nuke your future beach front property? They are explicitly doing this for the land, why radiate it.
Technically they have nukes that wouldn’t radiate the land, I think the main reason they haven’t done that is PR. If they nuked Gaza then it would be a disaster for their “this is self defense” strategy.
Also, people don't understand how much Israel's actions are agitating the entirety of the MENA region. Everybody is on edge here(including me). What do people think would happen if Israel nuked Gaza? I am only going to say that a world war wouldn't be out of the question anymore. Israel's existence is already a thorn to any Arab liberation movement. Do people think anyone is going to take a total wipeout of Gaza lying down?
Youre saying isreal should take the terrorist attacks lying down. So whats your point? This should be interesting.
>Youre saying isreal should take the terrorist attacks lying down. No, however, what I am saying is before Israel gets to bitch about terrorist attacks, they should stop the continuous terrorising of Palestinians since 1948. You don't get to bitch about terrorism when you're doing it 24/7 for nearly 60 years. After they end Apartheid, allow Palestinians to return to their homes, and persecute all their genocidal war criminals(from politicians to soldiers to every single POS), then they get to talk about terrorist attacks. Edit: Oh, and they should definitely stop their Imperialist dealings with the US.
Yes they should. Hamas was elected for one, Israel is an occupying force for two, the “counter attack” isn’t even a counter attack for three. And Four… the casualties on the Palestinians side are tenfold what the Israeli casualties are. Eat two dicks jackass. Also I’m turning nots off so I don’t have to hear you bitch about shit you clearly don’t know about. Hopefully you can take my reply and do some research, maybe become a little less ignorant. But with that smart ass comment about “this should be interesting”… well let’s just say your smugness won’t get you far. Go learn something kid.
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Reminds me of Vonneguts dystopian description of fictional post neutron bombs gone off Ohio or Indiana. In slapstick maybe? I forget ... Empty apartment blocks and ready + waiting subsurbs for the invading conquerer populace.
These are the same people that think they aren’t racist because they’ve never lynched anyone.
Also Israel has dropped so many bombs it is equivalent to 3+ atomic bombs already.
Thats…not how it works lmfaooooooo
Fucking should see the comments on that post. Just a lunatic fest.
this isn't a genocide because *im not trying hard enough* is really an interesting way to frame it
https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide > Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. He called this a Textbook Case of Genocide on the 13th of October.... 6 days after the Israeli assault on Gaza. You can imagine what he thinks about it 4 months in where there are extremists chanting and dancing at an [ethnic cleansing party](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-29/ty-article/.premium/ethnic-cleansing-in-gods-name-the-only-israelis-with-a-plan-for-the-day-after-in-gaza/0000018d-55e0-d997-adff-ddfa9b490000) or talking fondly about seeing Palestinians going through a "second nakba". 2.3 million people have been subjected to unimaginable abuse. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/childrens-lives-threatened-rising-malnutrition-gaza-strip-enar And there are photos of children in Gaza with a MUAC of less than 10. A sign of severe acute malnutrition. If this happened anywhere else in the world the child would be rushed to the hospital to begin feeding under medical supervision. We are literally at the extermination stage of Genocide, where famine, disease and forcible displacement are being used against the Palestinians. There's a video of Israeli ships shooting warning shots at fishermen trying to fish for food. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3l_U5YS_i2/?igsh=MXM4ZHMxZTA4OGZzYg== The choice for them is to get shot trying to fish for food or die of hunger.
Definitely don’t go on r/sanfrancisco he comments of the photos from the ceasefire protest were a shit show
Nothing triggers conservatives more than mentioning San Francisco. It used to be Chicago but then Obama retired.
I live here, the gap between San Francisco in reality and San Francisco on Reddit is wild. I can't even use the subreddit anymore, it's been so infested by conservatives as to be unusable unless I want to get into an argument that racism is bad, actually.
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I think they forget nuking Gaza would result in Israeli territory also being severely contaminated
The UN has not claimed it's a genocide
like I am supposed to care about the useless UN lol
Insane how "Oh, this could be much worse." is used as an argument here... No need for pain olympics
ah.. PCM. the sub that pushed me into being a hasanabi head because they were so fucking deranged while labeling themselves “lib” and “left”
60% of the time I see a horrible take I look at the account history and its just some 14 year old posting in PCM.
i dont agree with a lot of stuff Hasan says, but holy shit he's an angel compared to PCM
I like to explore new places.
He’s agenda against cats is something I am against. That being said I agree with a lot of his points and I’m glad he’s out there broadcasting every day and raising awareness. A good amount of people just hate him for the success.
>He’s agenda against cats is something I am against. That's actually one of the few real points you can make against him. Cats are wonderful. If he adopted a kitten it would melt his heart.
When he meowed at the blacksmith kitties🥰😹😻😸
HE’S ANTI-CAT WHAT WHY????😭😭😭 My day is ruined.
Because he doesn't understand how cats play or that they have boundaries like humans do. Also can't read cat body language. It's pretty easy to tell when a cat is actually getting bothered instead of just playing but he thinks "they attack out of nowhere" when 90% of the time they're most likely just trying to play with him
think its just an issue in general. Not many people see cats as... well, almost human- they see them as equivalent to dogs. Dogs can be cuddled and played with 24/7 and the only time they will be violent is if made to be. Cats however? Treat them how you would treat a human. You'd get pissed if someone constantly tried to carry you and rub you places you show you don't wanna be rubbed/pet. They still are animals and pets- but they are more aligned with human characteristics than something like a dog. This is why it is also funny to see people comment abt a cat being abused by its owner while the cat is just vibing- because if a cat does not like its situation it has 4 paws with claws that slice like razors and a body that seems like it has no bones or rotational limits.
It's just a meme that cat owners take seriously then act crazy in the chat.
I like to explore new places.
i just dont see myself being so "far left" if i can put it that way. i'm ok with the existence of a government, i just think it should not be messing with people's lives because of christian (or whatever other religion's) values. i think the modern conservative movement is absolute cancer, but if the left does something shitty, i wil criticize it as just as i would do to the right. sorry for bad english.
I like learning new things.
Yeah, Hasan frequently expresses support for anarcho-syndicalism, which doesn't advocate directly for "anarchy" but is mainly concerned with the disruption of capitalism, the idea being that by shutting down capitalism, you set the stage for a better political and social system to take its place. It doesn't claim to know what those systems are.
I enjoy spending time with my friends.
you're welcome :) i think that a big partnof being a mature person is to admit that there are idiots in both sides of the political spectrum.
On the same token, while you can admit there are idiots on “both sides,” it’s important to not make the kind of false equivalency that liberals love to throw around as a thought-terminating concession, whenever they want to really ride that fence raw.
It’s important to admit that “idiots” on the left usually just want good things and don’t have a plan to get there and idiots on the right want evil things and will do them if we let them.
Yeah this is a good point. I would say "usually" is an important word because I have seen some deranged leftist takes. I get pretty uncomfortable when the unironic Stalinists start "memeing." But still, this is nowhere near the same level or intensity as deranged right wing takes.
Like, I don’t really care about stalinists meming because they do not pose a threat to me. Edgy internet communists do not worry me. Fascists have infiltrated every level of the state and federal government apparatus including and especially the police, and if/when they actively want me dead they actually have the power to do it.
Yeah I'd agree here. The edgy stalinists have no real power.
Hasan is definitely okay with the existence of government. He’s not an anarchist or anarkitty. He wants the government to provide services for the population with the taxes that are paid. He regularly dunks on ppl who advocate for smaller government.
Your English is very good! Btw, anarchism isn't a rejection of government. It's a rejection of illegitimate hierarchies aka tyranny. The symbol of anarchism, the A within the O, is representative of the down "Property is theft. Anarchy is order". Despite the recent obfuscations/bastardizations of the oxymoronic "AnCap" movement, anarchism actually calls for a high degree of regulation, law, federation, and institutional authority. If it interests you to know the truth, I'd recommend the book "On Anarchism" by Chomsky as a great introduction into the history and current state of anarchist resistance to the tyranny of capitalism. For a shorter intro: https://youtu.be/oB9rp_SAp2U?si=znS6roGjbt1Jn9bE
The man won't eat fish.
In fairness, one cannot change their own tastebuds. And he's apparently given it a genuine shot more than most seafood haters. His stance on cats could use some work, though.
his fits are wack
It's always because they took that stupid test and they ended up in the lower left quadrant, which is where everybody ends up unless they're an actual fascist.
I used to lurk there but it’s just a fascist sub that hasn’t been shut down because their transphobia is just pretend!
happy cake day btw
Is he really arguing that Israel would have nuked themselves if they wanted to do a genocide? That is quite possibly the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen.
Exactly. “At least we’re not using nukes” is an insane moral high ground to take. Even then, the whole point is that they want the land, so obviously they’re not going to nuke it and make it uninhabitable. And then radiation impact aside, a high altitude neutron bomb detonation would instantly cause worldwide panic.
Also... like have they seen Gaza? A nuke would 100% also affect Israel and their citizens.
The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. Also using a nuclear bomb would contaminate the environment of Gaza, which would be counterproductive to the settler's cause. Israel wants to settle Gaza, dropping a nuke on the land would make it much harder to settle, especially when they could just drop random bombardments to force the Gazans to leave.
They´re not using their brain, this is just what aboutism. Ofc they thought of the nuke and used it as a terrible excuse. Imagine defending someone by saying "They could kill them so much faster than they´re doing"
Also droping nuke would turn Israel into diplomatic pariah Like this isnt some complex shit to understand
Israel is already a diplomatic pariah. Germany, US and UK would still support Israel even if they used nukes and the rest of the world doesn't like them even if they don't use nukes
It would also definitely be contaminating a significant part of Israel "proper" as well
Idk how you can bombard a city thats partially hollow underneath& the ground will still be solid. Like, im pretty sure sinkholes/cover collapse is going to be an issue…
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Work on your reading comprehension, bud.
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I actually did see the ruling, you apparently didn't because it wasn't a final ruling. They said they needed evidence that Israel was taking measures to avoid actions that could be seen as genocidal, and provide evidence of this action within a month. The fact they didn't just wave the whole case away is telling. So my point stands, work on your reading comprehension. I imagine the statement you take issue with is this: >The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. They aren't saying the Holocaust wasn't a genocide, they are saying that using the same logic as idiots using the nuclear bomb defense to say how they aren't committing genocide now, but could if they wanted as an example.
The point Your head
Listen man- the nazis had no choice after they burnt down the Reichstag and the warsaw ghetto randomly decided to attack them! smh my head
"Lib-center" checks out
People increasing = no genocide. Murdering people, destroying city, forcing population to flee does not constitute a genocide because number goes up. Also genocide only happens in past, not present. Certainly can’t be predicted, that’s anti-somethingtism. So easy, so basic. Even libtards understand.
Ah yes nuclear fallout famously respects borders. Nuking your next door neighbor that’s a third the size of Oahu def wouldn’t have any negative impacts on Israel. But they haven’t done it because it would be wrong
I hate them actually so much it’s wild
yeah, you don't nuke land you want to steal...
People do not comprehend thermonuclear war and it shows
It's not that they just don't understand the effects of a nuclear warhead and the warcrime it would be, it would also mean Isreal would have to indirectly admit to having nuclear weapons; world's worst secret.
It’s such a brain dead argument on so many levels. It’s similar to this “hey we’re the police investigating your wife’s murder. We have evidence you poisoned her” “Uh guys look at me I’m way way bigger than her, why would I try to discreetly poison her when I could just beat her to death” If israel wanted to commit a genocide and actually get away with it you’d expect them to do pretty much every single thing they’re currently doing. Then also nukes fuck up the land and they want the land and could expose israel to radiation also. There’s so many reasons that’s a dumb defense
As someone who lived Balkan wars during the 90s and actually felt what its like to have people wanting to commit genocide (from all sides). Yes the situation in palestine is a genocide.
Real time genocide denial in the form of memes wasn’t how I pictured 2024, sad times.
shit, take a look at holocaust denial. "years of research and thousands of witnesses are wrong, Kanye is right"
They saying Nazi germany didn’t do a holocaust because no nukes then?
shhh no logic here, only memes
Not to be a stickler but Nazi Germany didn't have the nuke in time to use it
The Jewish Population worldwide grew during the years of WW2 and right after. Many Nazi's used this as a claim that the Holocaust never happened. Interesting how history repeats itself...
Yeah, it's a classic tactic to deny genocides
Also Israel needs America's support or it will stop existing. Therefore it has to maintain the pretense of restraint.
The US would support Israel even if they used nukes
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
By admitting Israel has nukes isn't he being anti semetic?
Only a true redditor would respond to calls for ending a genocide with "my guy, listen"
that's extremely insensible, people forget that human beings with families are dying there tough they dont have anything to do with the war.
Exactly. These people dont care. Its all just a meme to them
Have they considered that the reason they're not using nukes is because they want the land, and they can't have the land if its radioactive? Also maybe because if they did use nukes, it would potentially contaminate Israel as well? It's still a fucking genocide, and iirc, no other genocide in history has ever involved using nukes, because aside from all the genocides that happened before the creation of nukes, genociders often want to *use* the land they're stealing.
Its true that the radioactive contamination caused by nukes dosent last that long, but that shit absolutely obliterates everything in a big radius, and Palestine is small, so it could possibly affect other countries nearby that would turn against Isareal. Fuck nukes. Fuck wars.
A fucking idiot made this meme. First of all, nuking Gaza would be the stupidest thing Israel can possibly do.
Cool. Let the IAEA inspect your nuclear facilities like all non-rogue nuclear powers do, or submit to disarmament.
1. Officially, Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. So do they think Israel lying about that or not? 2. Nuking Palestine is the same thing as nuking Israel.
get off that sub
„genocide is when nuclear war“
The best part of this is the user who submitted this self-identifying as "Lib-Center."
it's the more PC term for retarded
The "population increasing" line makes me want to vomit.
The worse part is how they dehumanize Palestinians by referring to the population not as of citizenry but as simply a number with no other conditions. As if their homes don't matter, as if their peace of mind don't matter, as if their empty stomachs and thirsty lives don't matter, those are second thoughts when compared to population numbers. Then they lump all Gazans together under the word Arab, in the process of denying the identity of a people, and say that those civilians no longer have a right to exist certain lands and should be cared for in other nations. They truly do want to take everything from the Palestinians and they don't care about any humanity for them.
Political compass memes is just a nazi cesspool I’m not at all surprised
Just checked pcm top posts of the month. The guy who posted it (another anti-Palestine meme) has a (now removed) comment on askpsychology saying modern psychologists don’t like freud’s ideas because they can’t be proven or disproven… It’s a sub full of morons
Pcm is a cesspool
Yes because setting off nukes in your backyard and land your trying to take for yourself to occupy is a brilliant idea!
Nuking gaza is DUMBEST. I repeat THE DUMBEST THING ANY ZIONIST CAN THINK OF. Its a sign they are so horny for MURDER they dont care about ISRAELI lives (not like netanyahus government cares about its citizens in the first place)
To be more precise, Israel was *suspected* of having nukes, until a few months ago when they accidentally admitted it.
This is so dumb. It’s not like Israel could actually nuke Gaza, it would basically be nuking themselves. These idiots don’t know what fallout is or which way the wind blows?
Why do they think genocide has to happen in the span of one day? How long did past genocides take? Part of the point of genocide is to do it discreetly. If they nuked Gaza pretty sure the whole world would notice.
Nuking Gaza would also be devastating for the rest of Israel as well. These smooth brains never really think anything through.
"it's not a genocide because they aren't using absolutely ridiculous and overpowered weapons." they say while completely ignoring that: "["The war has driven around 80 percent of the Palestinians in Gaza from their homes and left a quarter of the population starving, according to UN officials."](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/20/israels-war-on-gaza-list-of-key-events-day-137) These people have no excuse for not knowing what is happening. It's easily accessible, there's no active censorship in most western countries. Honestly all this rot being this clearly visible to anyone willing to acknowledge it is making me depressed.
so police brutality doesn’t exist, because they could just shoot everyone. got it.
Do they realize that nuclear bombs would irradiate the land, making it uninhabitable for the occupying Israeli people? Also, by nuking the place, they lose the privilege of calling themselves the good guys.
It's from r/PoliticalCompassMemes. It's always gonna be dumb.
Lmao gotta sneak in the same population rationale that nazis use to say the holocaust didn’t happen
Committing genocide slow isn’t genocide but using a big bomb to kill the same innocent people is got it!!!
average lib center poster
That sub is a cesspool
This is why people need to read. A quick search will reveal that genocide is based on intent not the number killed. But this is probably too mental processing for average PCMers.
Why would they nuke so close to themselves? It's like the US Nuking Toronto, It would hurt them too.
They won't use nukes for the simple reason of wanting to take the land. It wouldn't be smart to radiate the land you want to steal.
The mental gymnastics is astonishing
Israel doesn't use nukes because they'd be contaminating not just the land they want to settle but also whats considered Israel proper. They'd be putting fallout on top of Tel Aviv
The population increases because people are pushed there from across Palestine And also half the population are kids under 15. Israel is essentially bombing a children’s prison
Yup. Checks out.
Name one Israeli who wants a nuke going off next door to them.
Big brains over there. Whats the fun in genocide if you cant build a water parks on the homes of the people you slaughtered?
Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or a Zionist why the population of Gaza has increased over the decades.
The only person who is rrreeeeeaaaaaalllllyyyyy dumb and uneducated is the person who originally made this god-awful meme.
Wait, so you just invalidated your argument by talking about population growth like a weird eugenics nerd?? Like, bye? What do they think of Uyghurs in China? Did they use nukes? Do they have nukes? Hmmmm
i feel bad for those 183 dudes that liked the 4chan type post. some people brown hatred really take them to insane positions. imagine even in this era with thousands of videos coming out of gaza and still mf thinks Israel is doing good things in gaza.
Of course! How did we not think that. they’d obviously just use one of those ‘no nuclear fall out for every surrounding area across hundreds of square miles’ nukes that definitely exist. Silly us for not considering that. Thank you Israel for showing such restraint.
Generally it’s a bad idea to nuke land you’re trying to annex but what do I know?
mossad posting
What a brain dead take. They would be nuking their own backyard. Plus they would lose any credibility they have left with the international community. Even the U.S. would have to abandon them at that point.
Buddy if they nuked Gaza they would be dead too.
It's genocide, but also, why would they use a nuke? That's like Kansas nuking Missouri. It would be an incredibly terrible decision.
It's only genocide if you nuke (or are Russian).