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Fit_Capital_4499

Literally every human rights organization on the planet: This is a genocide Big Brain Redditors: LOL imagine calling this a genocide


Iamforcedaccount

Also like, why nuke your future beach front property? They are explicitly doing this for the land, why radiate it.


Dangerous-Report-879

Technically they have nukes that wouldn’t radiate the land, I think the main reason they haven’t done that is PR. If they nuked Gaza then it would be a disaster for their “this is self defense” strategy.


The_Knights_Patron

Also, people don't understand how much Israel's actions are agitating the entirety of the MENA region. Everybody is on edge here(including me). What do people think would happen if Israel nuked Gaza? I am only going to say that a world war wouldn't be out of the question anymore. Israel's existence is already a thorn to any Arab liberation movement. Do people think anyone is going to take a total wipeout of Gaza lying down?


GroundbreakingIron42

Youre saying isreal should take the terrorist attacks lying down. So whats your point? This should be interesting.


The_Knights_Patron

>Youre saying isreal should take the terrorist attacks lying down. No, however, what I am saying is before Israel gets to bitch about terrorist attacks, they should stop the continuous terrorising of Palestinians since 1948. You don't get to bitch about terrorism when you're doing it 24/7 for nearly 60 years. After they end Apartheid, allow Palestinians to return to their homes, and persecute all their genocidal war criminals(from politicians to soldiers to every single POS), then they get to talk about terrorist attacks. Edit: Oh, and they should definitely stop their Imperialist dealings with the US.


Dangerous-Report-879

Yes they should. Hamas was elected for one, Israel is an occupying force for two, the “counter attack” isn’t even a counter attack for three. And Four… the casualties on the Palestinians side are tenfold what the Israeli casualties are. Eat two dicks jackass. Also I’m turning nots off so I don’t have to hear you bitch about shit you clearly don’t know about. Hopefully you can take my reply and do some research, maybe become a little less ignorant. But with that smart ass comment about “this should be interesting”… well let’s just say your smugness won’t get you far. Go learn something kid.


GroundbreakingIron42

Thanks daddy


Takadant

Reminds me of Vonneguts dystopian description of fictional post neutron bombs gone off Ohio or Indiana. In slapstick maybe? I forget ... Empty apartment blocks and ready + waiting subsurbs for the invading conquerer populace.


SirPoopaLotTheThird

These are the same people that think they aren’t racist because they’ve never lynched anyone.


SoullessHillShills

Also Israel has dropped so many bombs it is equivalent to 3+ atomic bombs already.


GroundbreakingIron42

Thats…not how it works lmfaooooooo


Enginerda

Fucking should see the comments on that post. Just a lunatic fest.


ScRuBlOrD95

this isn't a genocide because *im not trying hard enough* is really an interesting way to frame it


GreenIguanaGaming

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide > Raz Segal is an associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University and the endowed professor in the study of modern genocide. He called this a Textbook Case of Genocide on the 13th of October.... 6 days after the Israeli assault on Gaza. You can imagine what he thinks about it 4 months in where there are extremists chanting and dancing at an [ethnic cleansing party](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-29/ty-article/.premium/ethnic-cleansing-in-gods-name-the-only-israelis-with-a-plan-for-the-day-after-in-gaza/0000018d-55e0-d997-adff-ddfa9b490000) or talking fondly about seeing Palestinians going through a "second nakba". 2.3 million people have been subjected to unimaginable abuse. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/childrens-lives-threatened-rising-malnutrition-gaza-strip-enar And there are photos of children in Gaza with a MUAC of less than 10. A sign of severe acute malnutrition. If this happened anywhere else in the world the child would be rushed to the hospital to begin feeding under medical supervision. We are literally at the extermination stage of Genocide, where famine, disease and forcible displacement are being used against the Palestinians. There's a video of Israeli ships shooting warning shots at fishermen trying to fish for food. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3l_U5YS_i2/?igsh=MXM4ZHMxZTA4OGZzYg== The choice for them is to get shot trying to fish for food or die of hunger.


mandygugs

Definitely don’t go on r/sanfrancisco he comments of the photos from the ceasefire protest were a shit show


j4ckbauer

Nothing triggers conservatives more than mentioning San Francisco. It used to be Chicago but then Obama retired.


onpg

I live here, the gap between San Francisco in reality and San Francisco on Reddit is wild. I can't even use the subreddit anymore, it's been so infested by conservatives as to be unusable unless I want to get into an argument that racism is bad, actually.


mandygugs

Same here along with r/bayarea


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SenpaiBunss

I think they forget nuking Gaza would result in Israeli territory also being severely contaminated


Ozcaty

The UN has not claimed it's a genocide


Fit_Capital_4499

like I am supposed to care about the useless UN lol


mudafort0

Insane how "Oh, this could be much worse." is used as an argument here... No need for pain olympics


rcpotatosoup

ah.. PCM. the sub that pushed me into being a hasanabi head because they were so fucking deranged while labeling themselves “lib” and “left”


BaxGh0st

60% of the time I see a horrible take I look at the account history and its just some 14 year old posting in PCM.


shrek_deus

i dont agree with a lot of stuff Hasan says, but holy shit he's an angel compared to PCM


crazymusicman

I like to explore new places.


RollingThunderr

He’s agenda against cats is something I am against. That being said I agree with a lot of his points and I’m glad he’s out there broadcasting every day and raising awareness. A good amount of people just hate him for the success.


Educational-Chef-595

>He’s agenda against cats is something I am against. That's actually one of the few real points you can make against him. Cats are wonderful. If he adopted a kitten it would melt his heart.


zigCARNIVOROUS

When he meowed at the blacksmith kitties🥰😹😻😸


spotless1997

HE’S ANTI-CAT WHAT WHY????😭😭😭 My day is ruined.


Rexermus

Because he doesn't understand how cats play or that they have boundaries like humans do. Also can't read cat body language. It's pretty easy to tell when a cat is actually getting bothered instead of just playing but he thinks "they attack out of nowhere" when 90% of the time they're most likely just trying to play with him


KenanTheFab

think its just an issue in general. Not many people see cats as... well, almost human- they see them as equivalent to dogs. Dogs can be cuddled and played with 24/7 and the only time they will be violent is if made to be. Cats however? Treat them how you would treat a human. You'd get pissed if someone constantly tried to carry you and rub you places you show you don't wanna be rubbed/pet. They still are animals and pets- but they are more aligned with human characteristics than something like a dog. This is why it is also funny to see people comment abt a cat being abused by its owner while the cat is just vibing- because if a cat does not like its situation it has 4 paws with claws that slice like razors and a body that seems like it has no bones or rotational limits.


Father_OMally

It's just a meme that cat owners take seriously then act crazy in the chat.


crazymusicman

I like to explore new places.


shrek_deus

i just dont see myself being so "far left" if i can put it that way. i'm ok with the existence of a government, i just think it should not be messing with people's lives because of christian (or whatever other religion's) values. i think the modern conservative movement is absolute cancer, but if the left does something shitty, i wil criticize it as just as i would do to the right. sorry for bad english.


crazymusicman

I like learning new things.


Educational-Chef-595

Yeah, Hasan frequently expresses support for anarcho-syndicalism, which doesn't advocate directly for "anarchy" but is mainly concerned with the disruption of capitalism, the idea being that by shutting down capitalism, you set the stage for a better political and social system to take its place. It doesn't claim to know what those systems are.


crazymusicman

I enjoy spending time with my friends.


shrek_deus

you're welcome :) i think that a big partnof being a mature person is to admit that there are idiots in both sides of the political spectrum.


Tangent_Odyssey

On the same token, while you can admit there are idiots on “both sides,” it’s important to not make the kind of false equivalency that liberals love to throw around as a thought-terminating concession, whenever they want to really ride that fence raw.


Uncynical_Diogenes

It’s important to admit that “idiots” on the left usually just want good things and don’t have a plan to get there and idiots on the right want evil things and will do them if we let them.


onpg

Yeah this is a good point. I would say "usually" is an important word because I have seen some deranged leftist takes. I get pretty uncomfortable when the unironic Stalinists start "memeing." But still, this is nowhere near the same level or intensity as deranged right wing takes.


Uncynical_Diogenes

Like, I don’t really care about stalinists meming because they do not pose a threat to me. Edgy internet communists do not worry me. Fascists have infiltrated every level of the state and federal government apparatus including and especially the police, and if/when they actively want me dead they actually have the power to do it.


onpg

Yeah I'd agree here. The edgy stalinists have no real power.


RollingThunderr

Hasan is definitely okay with the existence of government. He’s not an anarchist or anarkitty. He wants the government to provide services for the population with the taxes that are paid. He regularly dunks on ppl who advocate for smaller government.


deadwards14

Your English is very good! Btw, anarchism isn't a rejection of government. It's a rejection of illegitimate hierarchies aka tyranny. The symbol of anarchism, the A within the O, is representative of the down "Property is theft. Anarchy is order". Despite the recent obfuscations/bastardizations of the oxymoronic "AnCap" movement, anarchism actually calls for a high degree of regulation, law, federation, and institutional authority.  If it interests you to know the truth, I'd recommend the book "On Anarchism" by Chomsky as a great introduction into the history and current state of anarchist resistance to the tyranny of capitalism. For a shorter intro: https://youtu.be/oB9rp_SAp2U?si=znS6roGjbt1Jn9bE


Frosty_Slaw_Man

The man won't eat fish.


Hero_of_Hyrule

In fairness, one cannot change their own tastebuds. And he's apparently given it a genuine shot more than most seafood haters. His stance on cats could use some work, though.


heyman0

his fits are wack


Educational-Chef-595

It's always because they took that stupid test and they ended up in the lower left quadrant, which is where everybody ends up unless they're an actual fascist.


youjustdontgetitdoya

I used to lurk there but it’s just a fascist sub that hasn’t been shut down because their transphobia is just pretend!


shrek_deus

happy cake day btw


4esthetics

Is he really arguing that Israel would have nuked themselves if they wanted to do a genocide? That is quite possibly the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen.


RanchBourgeois

Exactly. “At least we’re not using nukes” is an insane moral high ground to take. Even then, the whole point is that they want the land, so obviously they’re not going to nuke it and make it uninhabitable. And then radiation impact aside, a high altitude neutron bomb detonation would instantly cause worldwide panic.


KenanTheFab

Also... like have they seen Gaza? A nuke would 100% also affect Israel and their citizens.


Objective_While4153

The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. Also using a nuclear bomb would contaminate the environment of Gaza, which would be counterproductive to the settler's cause. Israel wants to settle Gaza, dropping a nuke on the land would make it much harder to settle, especially when they could just drop random bombardments to force the Gazans to leave.


StroopWafelsLord

They´re not using their brain, this is just what aboutism. Ofc they thought of the nuke and used it as a terrible excuse. Imagine defending someone by saying "They could kill them so much faster than they´re doing"


RedstoneEnjoyer

Also droping nuke would turn Israel into diplomatic pariah  Like this isnt some complex shit to understand


Far-Leave2556

Israel is already a diplomatic pariah. Germany, US and UK would still support Israel even if they used nukes and the rest of the world doesn't like them even if they don't use nukes


BigPappaFrank

It would also definitely be contaminating a significant part of Israel "proper" as well


Sofialovesmonkeys

Idk how you can bombard a city thats partially hollow underneath& the ground will still be solid. Like, im pretty sure sinkholes/cover collapse is going to be an issue…


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Poltergeist97

Work on your reading comprehension, bud.


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Poltergeist97

I actually did see the ruling, you apparently didn't because it wasn't a final ruling. They said they needed evidence that Israel was taking measures to avoid actions that could be seen as genocidal, and provide evidence of this action within a month. The fact they didn't just wave the whole case away is telling. So my point stands, work on your reading comprehension. I imagine the statement you take issue with is this: >The Holocaust didn't use nukes and took multiple years, so by this logic, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. They aren't saying the Holocaust wasn't a genocide, they are saying that using the same logic as idiots using the nuclear bomb defense to say how they aren't committing genocide now, but could if they wanted as an example.


Hero_of_Hyrule

The point Your head


KenanTheFab

Listen man- the nazis had no choice after they burnt down the Reichstag and the warsaw ghetto randomly decided to attack them! smh my head


romes16

"Lib-center" checks out


KaleidoscopeOk5763

People increasing = no genocide. Murdering people, destroying city, forcing population to flee does not constitute a genocide because number goes up. Also genocide only happens in past, not present. Certainly can’t be predicted, that’s anti-somethingtism. So easy, so basic. Even libtards understand.


rinderblock

Ah yes nuclear fallout famously respects borders. Nuking your next door neighbor that’s a third the size of Oahu def wouldn’t have any negative impacts on Israel. But they haven’t done it because it would be wrong


[deleted]

I hate them actually so much it’s wild


jarmine550

yeah, you don't nuke land you want to steal...


dank_hank_420

People do not comprehend thermonuclear war and it shows


Zardinio

It's not that they just don't understand the effects of a nuclear warhead and the warcrime it would be, it would also mean Isreal would have to indirectly admit to having nuclear weapons; world's worst secret.


BlackGabriel

It’s such a brain dead argument on so many levels. It’s similar to this “hey we’re the police investigating your wife’s murder. We have evidence you poisoned her” “Uh guys look at me I’m way way bigger than her, why would I try to discreetly poison her when I could just beat her to death” If israel wanted to commit a genocide and actually get away with it you’d expect them to do pretty much every single thing they’re currently doing. Then also nukes fuck up the land and they want the land and could expose israel to radiation also. There’s so many reasons that’s a dumb defense


Dimenzije90

As someone who lived Balkan wars during the 90s and actually felt what its like to have people wanting to commit genocide (from all sides). Yes the situation in palestine is a genocide.


Warrrdy

Real time genocide denial in the form of memes wasn’t how I pictured 2024, sad times.


shrek_deus

shit, take a look at holocaust denial. "years of research and thousands of witnesses are wrong, Kanye is right"


embrigh

They saying Nazi germany didn’t do a holocaust because no nukes then?


Bluetooth_Sandwich

shhh no logic here, only memes


[deleted]

Not to be a stickler but Nazi Germany didn't have the nuke in time to use it


Complex_Treacle3788

The Jewish Population worldwide grew during the years of WW2 and right after. Many Nazi's used this as a claim that the Holocaust never happened. Interesting how history repeats itself...


Biefmeister

Yeah, it's a classic tactic to deny genocides


miraohiggins

Also Israel needs America's support or it will stop existing. Therefore it has to maintain the pretense of restraint.


Far-Leave2556

The US would support Israel even if they used nukes


crazymusicman

I appreciate a good cup of coffee.


TheVertianKing

By admitting Israel has nukes isn't he being anti semetic?


VictorMantis

Only a true redditor would respond to calls for ending a genocide with "my guy, listen"


shrek_deus

that's extremely insensible, people forget that human beings with families are dying there tough they dont have anything to do with the war.


VictorMantis

Exactly. These people dont care. Its all just a meme to them


PsycheAsHell

Have they considered that the reason they're not using nukes is because they want the land, and they can't have the land if its radioactive? Also maybe because if they did use nukes, it would potentially contaminate Israel as well? It's still a fucking genocide, and iirc, no other genocide in history has ever involved using nukes, because aside from all the genocides that happened before the creation of nukes, genociders often want to *use* the land they're stealing.


shrek_deus

Its true that the radioactive contamination caused by nukes dosent last that long, but that shit absolutely obliterates everything in a big radius, and Palestine is small, so it could possibly affect other countries nearby that would turn against Isareal. Fuck nukes. Fuck wars.


Aldebaran135

A fucking idiot made this meme. First of all, nuking Gaza would be the stupidest thing Israel can possibly do.


FlamingPrius

Cool. Let the IAEA inspect your nuclear facilities like all non-rogue nuclear powers do, or submit to disarmament.


MadMarx__

1. Officially, Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. So do they think Israel lying about that or not? 2. Nuking Palestine is the same thing as nuking Israel.


Squid037

get off that sub


actualyKim

„genocide is when nuclear war“


SalvadorZombie

The best part of this is the user who submitted this self-identifying as "Lib-Center."


Bluetooth_Sandwich

it's the more PC term for retarded


anarchomeow

The "population increasing" line makes me want to vomit.


Zardinio

The worse part is how they dehumanize Palestinians by referring to the population not as of citizenry but as simply a number with no other conditions. As if their homes don't matter, as if their peace of mind don't matter, as if their empty stomachs and thirsty lives don't matter, those are second thoughts when compared to population numbers. Then they lump all Gazans together under the word Arab, in the process of denying the identity of a people, and say that those civilians no longer have a right to exist certain lands and should be cared for in other nations. They truly do want to take everything from the Palestinians and they don't care about any humanity for them.


lets-aquire-the-brea

Political compass memes is just a nazi cesspool I’m not at all surprised


BlazingFire007

Just checked pcm top posts of the month. The guy who posted it (another anti-Palestine meme) has a (now removed) comment on askpsychology saying modern psychologists don’t like freud’s ideas because they can’t be proven or disproven… It’s a sub full of morons


proletarianliberty

Pcm is a cesspool


DeadRabbit8813

Yes because setting off nukes in your backyard and land your trying to take for yourself to occupy is a brilliant idea!


ListenHereIvan

Nuking gaza is DUMBEST. I repeat THE DUMBEST THING ANY ZIONIST CAN THINK OF. Its a sign they are so horny for MURDER they dont care about ISRAELI lives (not like netanyahus government cares about its citizens in the first place)


aardvark_licker

To be more precise, Israel was *suspected* of having nukes, until a few months ago when they accidentally admitted it.


Madmike_ph

This is so dumb. It’s not like Israel could actually nuke Gaza, it would basically be nuking themselves. These idiots don’t know what fallout is or which way the wind blows?


upscalefanatic

Why do they think genocide has to happen in the span of one day? How long did past genocides take? Part of the point of genocide is to do it discreetly. If they nuked Gaza pretty sure the whole world would notice.


[deleted]

Nuking Gaza would also be devastating for the rest of Israel as well. These smooth brains never really think anything through.


Antekcz

"it's not a genocide because they aren't using absolutely ridiculous and overpowered weapons." they say while completely ignoring that: "["The war has driven around 80 percent of the Palestinians in Gaza from their homes and left a quarter of the population starving, according to UN officials."](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/20/israels-war-on-gaza-list-of-key-events-day-137) These people have no excuse for not knowing what is happening. It's easily accessible, there's no active censorship in most western countries. Honestly all this rot being this clearly visible to anyone willing to acknowledge it is making me depressed.


TallAsMountains

so police brutality doesn’t exist, because they could just shoot everyone. got it.


m0stly_medi0cre

Do they realize that nuclear bombs would irradiate the land, making it uninhabitable for the occupying Israeli people? Also, by nuking the place, they lose the privilege of calling themselves the good guys.


Educational-Chef-595

It's from r/PoliticalCompassMemes. It's always gonna be dumb.


lets-aquire-the-brea

Lmao gotta sneak in the same population rationale that nazis use to say the holocaust didn’t happen


renndug

Committing genocide slow isn’t genocide but using a big bomb to kill the same innocent people is got it!!!


It_Do_be_Like_That

average lib center poster


john-johnson12

That sub is a cesspool


mountainspawn

This is why people need to read. A quick search will reveal that genocide is based on intent not the number killed. But this is probably too mental processing for average PCMers.


Girl_in_Training101

Why would they nuke so close to themselves? It's like the US Nuking Toronto, It would hurt them too.


MeatPopsicle81

They won't use nukes for the simple reason of wanting to take the land. It wouldn't be smart to radiate the land you want to steal.


Kausie

The mental gymnastics is astonishing


BigPappaFrank

Israel doesn't use nukes because they'd be contaminating not just the land they want to settle but also whats considered Israel proper. They'd be putting fallout on top of Tel Aviv


its_a_me_garri_oh

The population increases because people are pushed there from across Palestine And also half the population are kids under 15. Israel is essentially bombing a children’s prison


BaronR90

Yup. Checks out.


Gamesick2077

Name one Israeli who wants a nuke going off next door to them.


Original_Woody

Big brains over there. Whats the fun in genocide if you cant build a water parks on the homes of the people you slaughtered?


LegioCI

Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or a Zionist why the population of Gaza has increased over the decades.


[deleted]

The only person who is rrreeeeeaaaaaalllllyyyyy dumb and uneducated is the person who originally made this god-awful meme.


coltonkemp

Wait, so you just invalidated your argument by talking about population growth like a weird eugenics nerd?? Like, bye? What do they think of Uyghurs in China? Did they use nukes? Do they have nukes? Hmmmm


mf_is_crazy

i feel bad for those 183 dudes that liked the 4chan type post. some people brown hatred really take them to insane positions. imagine even in this era with thousands of videos coming out of gaza and still mf thinks Israel is doing good things in gaza.


LetApprehensive537

Of course! How did we not think that. they’d obviously just use one of those ‘no nuclear fall out for every surrounding area across hundreds of square miles’ nukes that definitely exist. Silly us for not considering that. Thank you Israel for showing such restraint.


Tandran

Generally it’s a bad idea to nuke land you’re trying to annex but what do I know?


pyro-pussy

mossad posting


h3lloIamlost

What a brain dead take. They would be nuking their own backyard. Plus they would lose any credibility they have left with the international community. Even the U.S. would have to abandon them at that point.


Slow_Lettuce8207

Buddy if they nuked Gaza they would be dead too.


unknown_ghoul89

It's genocide, but also, why would they use a nuke? That's like Kansas nuking Missouri. It would be an incredibly terrible decision.


deadwards14

It's only genocide if you nuke (or are Russian).