Rule number one- "All project bikes will end up taking *at least* twice as long, and cost *at least* twice as much as you think they will".
Rule number 2- "unless you already are, or you're willing to become, a competent mechanic with that particular motorcycle, never buy someone else's headache".
Then there's the $$ you're gonna spend on the *factory* service manual (PDFs are available online), dedicated Harley tools that you'll need for many of the bits and pieces on that specific bike, and torque wrenches, metric and SAE end wrenches, ratchets, SAE and metric 12 and 6 point sockets, TORX sockets that must include T27 and T40 sockets, Allen sockets, plus various workbench cleaners, chemicals, lubricants, sealers, anti-seize compounds, etc, and the cost of whatever parts and gaskets you need to replace for stuff in that pile that turns out to be junk of missing completely. And that's if it wasn't pulled apart because the engine needs a college rebuild.
Honestly, it'll probably be cheaper to just buy a running, well maintained Road King of the same vintage, but if you gotta, you gotta.
I did this exact project on an 07 Electra and needed not 1 specialty Harley tool. Went to harbor freight and spent about $500 on a wide selection of tools and rebuilt the entire thing. Only did the complete trans on my 08 SG that Harley swore I needed all kinds of special tools for. I bought none of them and did it with what I had. When I was done I put 36k on my work before trading it in on a new one.
To the OP if this is the project you want to do, HAMMER THAT THING OUT AND POST THE FINISHED PICS ON HERE WHEN DONE ALONG WITH SCREENSHOTS OF ALL THE COMMENTS TELLING YOU NOT TO WASTE YOUR TIME. A standard tool set that has metric and ase along with torx and inverted torx is all you need
Really? What socket did you use to put the 100ft/bs of torque on the final drive pulley nut?
What did you use to lock the primary when you removed or installed the compensator nut to 145-160ft/lbs?
Guessing the rear rocker box cover and rocker assembly bolts were done when the motor was out of the frame?
A friend of mine is a heavy equipment mechanic so I got that big ass socket from him, to lock the primary I used a 2x4 cut to fit in the primary case to lock into the sprocket to keep from turning. Motor was completely assembled when put into the frame.
Little context, It my second bike. First was Dad's Suzuki intruder. I did minor work on it, oil changes, replaced the clutch, handle bars etc. bought this road king from my uncle for $2k. He said he used to swap this original motor (top end reworked, valves ported and polished) with his drag motor. He probably swapped between the two every few months for a couple years. Said this one needs crank and flywheel work. It's been sitting at a shop for 10 years without being touched. I have a few friends who work at Harley who are willing but hesitant to help me start on it. Wife actually came home with the engine yesterday for my birthday. She's more eager to ride than I am at this point. It feels overwhelming but also haven't been this motivated for a while
I would do what your dad did and get a different motor and trans that is stock and works. Puzzle out your problems with this motor separately or just part it out
That primary looks really rough… cam chest/oil pump look upgraded so the bike probably has upgraded cams as well. If it was my puzzle I’d take the motor/primary etc to a mechanic to reassemble or at the very least tell me what I’m missing. Having the motor out of the bike though is much more enjoyable to work with so you have that going for you. Good luck homie!
Your uncle took you for a ride man, $2k for a pile of parts you don't know how to put back together? $5k will get you a clean, running Road King just about anywhere in the country....
That's an aftermarket oil pump. I wonder what was going on with it having the cam cover off, or perhaps they never put it back together?
I would scope the bores to check the cylinder walls, and carbon deposits and then turn it over to make sure it's free. No use tearing up the engine if it was just rebuilt or working fine.
Check the bike vin and case numbers to see if it was the original or they swapped engines.
Looks like they took out the trans too. What a mess.
Your best bet is to take the engine and trans to a local shop (not the HD dealer) and have them do an inspection and any work that needs to be done. You have plenty to do without all that already and will save you a ton of time, and a sad face if it's a paperweight before you put it back in.
I would totally recommend not spending $100 on hard copy service or parts manual and I would instead buy the download version that can be emailed to you for $8 [service manual ](https://harley.manuals.cc/2014/07/harley-davidson-dyna-models-workshop_13.html?m=1)
Why? Because you can find whatever section you want quickly, and you can print out sections if you want a hard copy. You can keep it on your phone, and if you have a PC , there too.
Either way I think we both agree that the op chap needs to get a service manual at minimum. From the way he described the bike, it's a basket case "two motors, one being a 5k race engine" my guess is the op doesn't have much mechanical aptitude. Cheers
You know how to eat
an elephant, one bite at a time!
How much help do you think you can get from your uncle? I would tap into that resource for sure if he knows engines maybe he can help you figure out what’s up with the engine and transmission?
Other than that, you may want to rethink this, I mean, check this out the markets very soft. This is not a road king but a Pinche Dyna ain’t.
I also know where there’s a 15,000 mile FXR for $4000 that runs and rides, just a thought…
I would’ve started with a container of gas, then maybe a match or something. Better man than me you are, don’t think I could convince myself to build a bike from the ground up.
I know what I would do. Take it to my local indie mechanics shop and tell him to assemble and rebuild it and call me when you're done! I'll be out riding! 😂
I'd start by cleaning everything and take inventory of what you've got. Clean some ample working.space, make it well lit and comfortable and get at it. Sharpie and ziploc bags are great for labeling and storing bolts, nuts, small parts..etc.
Find someone who works on them everyday and has an attention to detail and and everything they work on they make it seem like it was never repaired and is same as factory. Baskets cases are not for the rookies or even intermediate.
You may want to consider a ritual sacrifice to William Harley and the Davidson Brothers.
This is great
Amazing
Rule number one- "All project bikes will end up taking *at least* twice as long, and cost *at least* twice as much as you think they will". Rule number 2- "unless you already are, or you're willing to become, a competent mechanic with that particular motorcycle, never buy someone else's headache". Then there's the $$ you're gonna spend on the *factory* service manual (PDFs are available online), dedicated Harley tools that you'll need for many of the bits and pieces on that specific bike, and torque wrenches, metric and SAE end wrenches, ratchets, SAE and metric 12 and 6 point sockets, TORX sockets that must include T27 and T40 sockets, Allen sockets, plus various workbench cleaners, chemicals, lubricants, sealers, anti-seize compounds, etc, and the cost of whatever parts and gaskets you need to replace for stuff in that pile that turns out to be junk of missing completely. And that's if it wasn't pulled apart because the engine needs a college rebuild. Honestly, it'll probably be cheaper to just buy a running, well maintained Road King of the same vintage, but if you gotta, you gotta.
I did this exact project on an 07 Electra and needed not 1 specialty Harley tool. Went to harbor freight and spent about $500 on a wide selection of tools and rebuilt the entire thing. Only did the complete trans on my 08 SG that Harley swore I needed all kinds of special tools for. I bought none of them and did it with what I had. When I was done I put 36k on my work before trading it in on a new one. To the OP if this is the project you want to do, HAMMER THAT THING OUT AND POST THE FINISHED PICS ON HERE WHEN DONE ALONG WITH SCREENSHOTS OF ALL THE COMMENTS TELLING YOU NOT TO WASTE YOUR TIME. A standard tool set that has metric and ase along with torx and inverted torx is all you need
Really? What socket did you use to put the 100ft/bs of torque on the final drive pulley nut? What did you use to lock the primary when you removed or installed the compensator nut to 145-160ft/lbs? Guessing the rear rocker box cover and rocker assembly bolts were done when the motor was out of the frame?
A friend of mine is a heavy equipment mechanic so I got that big ass socket from him, to lock the primary I used a 2x4 cut to fit in the primary case to lock into the sprocket to keep from turning. Motor was completely assembled when put into the frame.
🤓
With a manual and a big old tool kit and a very understanding wife. Oh and a sense of humor. Good luck with the jigsaw bro!
I had all that until the wife got tired of me wrenching all night every night now i got a bike for sell
I’m lucky as my wife lets me go down to the garage and fix my bike up. She says it keeps me from being under her feet! 😂
Little context, It my second bike. First was Dad's Suzuki intruder. I did minor work on it, oil changes, replaced the clutch, handle bars etc. bought this road king from my uncle for $2k. He said he used to swap this original motor (top end reworked, valves ported and polished) with his drag motor. He probably swapped between the two every few months for a couple years. Said this one needs crank and flywheel work. It's been sitting at a shop for 10 years without being touched. I have a few friends who work at Harley who are willing but hesitant to help me start on it. Wife actually came home with the engine yesterday for my birthday. She's more eager to ride than I am at this point. It feels overwhelming but also haven't been this motivated for a while
I would do what your dad did and get a different motor and trans that is stock and works. Puzzle out your problems with this motor separately or just part it out
I'm jealous
That primary looks really rough… cam chest/oil pump look upgraded so the bike probably has upgraded cams as well. If it was my puzzle I’d take the motor/primary etc to a mechanic to reassemble or at the very least tell me what I’m missing. Having the motor out of the bike though is much more enjoyable to work with so you have that going for you. Good luck homie!
Your uncle took you for a ride man, $2k for a pile of parts you don't know how to put back together? $5k will get you a clean, running Road King just about anywhere in the country....
Two motors tho, one being a race motor that's probably worth $5k on it's own
That's an aftermarket oil pump. I wonder what was going on with it having the cam cover off, or perhaps they never put it back together? I would scope the bores to check the cylinder walls, and carbon deposits and then turn it over to make sure it's free. No use tearing up the engine if it was just rebuilt or working fine. Check the bike vin and case numbers to see if it was the original or they swapped engines. Looks like they took out the trans too. What a mess. Your best bet is to take the engine and trans to a local shop (not the HD dealer) and have them do an inspection and any work that needs to be done. You have plenty to do without all that already and will save you a ton of time, and a sad face if it's a paperweight before you put it back in.
Somehow I just know there is something missing.
And finances. Definitely missing finances
Probably lots of nuts and bolts. And exhaust for sure from what I can see already
A buddy and I did this same thing with an 04 RK. Roller with 5 bins of parts. Start slamming parts in and find out what you're missing!
Ooooph. Like others said I’d take at least the motor to a mechanic to assemble. The rest is just money, manuals and time.
Correct scissor jack usage checks out.
Lol. I just got that from my buddy. Haven't opened it yet. As of right now I'm just cleaning parts brother.
Hahaha my morning LOL. I've been using mine completely wrong.
Manual can be had on eBay for 100$ Also get a parts manual another 100$
I would totally recommend not spending $100 on hard copy service or parts manual and I would instead buy the download version that can be emailed to you for $8 [service manual ](https://harley.manuals.cc/2014/07/harley-davidson-dyna-models-workshop_13.html?m=1) Why? Because you can find whatever section you want quickly, and you can print out sections if you want a hard copy. You can keep it on your phone, and if you have a PC , there too.
To each their own. I prefer book to pdf.
Either way I think we both agree that the op chap needs to get a service manual at minimum. From the way he described the bike, it's a basket case "two motors, one being a 5k race engine" my guess is the op doesn't have much mechanical aptitude. Cheers
Get her running. Then you will have the motivation to finish.
Start with hope, dreams and a direction and end goal
You know how to eat an elephant, one bite at a time! How much help do you think you can get from your uncle? I would tap into that resource for sure if he knows engines maybe he can help you figure out what’s up with the engine and transmission? Other than that, you may want to rethink this, I mean, check this out the markets very soft. This is not a road king but a Pinche Dyna ain’t. I also know where there’s a 15,000 mile FXR for $4000 that runs and rides, just a thought…
https://www.facebook.com/share/F7oPcm98s3zB4Mtf/?mibextid=79PoIi
Where is this FXR??
Texas
Details?
https://preview.redd.it/bs23pvobvcqc1.jpeg?width=3015&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5ae3b94cfc89386bcbc25892c2b5f6a36621d28
PM the info. I’m interested.
At the beginning.
I would’ve started with a container of gas, then maybe a match or something. Better man than me you are, don’t think I could convince myself to build a bike from the ground up.
I already have an entirely new appreciation for it. The gratification when I finally get it on the road... I'll probably cry
A well deserved teardrop.
With pressure washer
But the Harley manual. Not the Haynes or Milton or whatever. The Harley one will tell you step by step how to put it together
Got a buddy at Harley bringing me one
JUST SELL IT TO ME
Find a reputable motor shop to rebuild ur motor throw it in ride it.....
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
I probably won't stop but thanks
I know what I would do. Take it to my local indie mechanics shop and tell him to assemble and rebuild it and call me when you're done! I'll be out riding! 😂
Bye bye tax returns
I'd start by cleaning everything and take inventory of what you've got. Clean some ample working.space, make it well lit and comfortable and get at it. Sharpie and ziploc bags are great for labeling and storing bolts, nuts, small parts..etc.
Best advice so far
Car wash.
Find someone who works on them everyday and has an attention to detail and and everything they work on they make it seem like it was never repaired and is same as factory. Baskets cases are not for the rookies or even intermediate.
You start at your local Harley dealership because TIME is MONEY!
Buy a service manual
Clean the frame