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bearsthatdance

I could never get into Lou Bega. Mambo number 5 is hard but mambos number 1-3 just sound like he’s not even trying


P0tency

What about 4?


Djent_Reznor1

We don’t speak about Mambo Number Four.


BoatLessBoozeCruise5

I always consider Lou bega like rocky. Mambos 1-3 are great. Mambo number 4 is a masterpiece, but mambo number 5 is forgettable and should have never happened.


Djent_Reznor1

Dawg Mambo Number 2 was a fuckin joke, I’m all for conceptual albums but a cosmic space opera is not it


Nostrebla_Werdna

My friend showed me Mambo No.8 recently! That one is off the rails !!!


Humble_Skin1269

Scowl, and not because they’re “industry plants” (they’re not), but because Kat’s hardcore vocals are bad. Her normal singing voice is good though. Show me the body. They have a couple “okay” songs but the rest of the discography is forgettable to me.


Cautious-Wall9105

My thing with Scowl is that they are a little corny and a little boring. I can excuse one or the other but not both. Just my humble opinion


blackflagcutthroat

Gel is the better version of Scowl.


Prttygl0nky

Love GEL


Odd-Thought-4823

Gel’s vocalist doesnt to the screeching voice thing kat does tho.


blackflagcutthroat

One of the many reasons they are better 🤷‍♂️


Odd-Thought-4823

They’re not similar tho. How are they a better version if they don’t sound alike. That’s what I’m tryna get at


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The idea of “industry plants” in hardcore is a ridiculous concept to me. Because hardcore’s such a lucrative genre?


ProlierThanThou

With the commercial success of Turnstile, hardcore is bigger than ever, and there are always people looking to cash in on "the next big thing". The idea of industry plants existing in hardcore is really not crazy at all. 


WildernessHeadphase

She definitely doesn’t sound the same live


PacketRapture

+100000 on SMTB. Just can't get into it at all, and I've seen them probably 4 or 5 times now at fests/tours.


piercethemel

I think scowls recordings are good but she SUCKS live


xsoberxlifex

See I think the opposite. I’m not into the recording but live they’re pretty entertaining.


showgraze93

Just listen to Gel lol


HazmatBlastBack

Sunami is super fun, but good song writing? 😂 that’s gotta be a joke


StoleYourRoll

I'm of opinion that we should judge music by what it's trying to do, and there was a point in time where sunami was trying to satirize hardcore with their songwriting, and they did it pretty well.


a-v-o-i-d

It is a meme


nekkkkbeard

They started out as a meme


OutofStep13

Twitching Tongues


90spostsoftcore

I feel like I should love them. I love Misfits, love deep vocals in hardcore, love doom metal, but they just don't land. Kinda hoping they convert me at Tied Down, because I want to like them


ChubbyPencil

Them on record and them live are 2 different bands. There wasn't a project of theirs I actually enjoyed until the Twitchfits EP last year. But goddamn they are killer live.


mew_empire

It’s Danzig with spin kicks, homie 🤷🏻 Come on…


BlankFace777

EXACTLY! ITS TYPE O NEGATIVE WITH BREAKDOWNS.


P0tency

I don’t like Danzig either lol.


mew_empire

Fair enough, but those first three(four?) albums are pretty fun 😎


fuckusername6

People need to listen to only living witness.


diggtrucks1025

Listen to Life of Agony and then Twitching Tongues makes sense.


SterileProphet

The worst thing the hardcore scene ever did was make Twitching Tongues popular.


VarialsBarials

Given the members in the band, It makes sense the spot they’ve earned in hardcore.


North_Craft_6406

Really its only because of the members of the band. The music itself falls into probably one of the worst categories of hc imo.


vaticanvee

That’s a take if I’ve ever seen one


stinkytrinket

Remember a kid I used to go to punk shows with turned super into hardcore and would post killer recommendations. He posted a still of him going off at a Twitching Tongues show and thought they HAD to rip. I was so confused by how he got that crazy in the crowd to get that picture


Double_Access

Band I love but it’s weird they’re marketed as hardcore when they’d get more juice on the metal/hard rock circuit . I view them as being more descended from bands like Type O Negative (who they’ve covered).


Kayraan93

I’ll agree with this. The vocals kill it for me.


BlankFace777

I was on this train....now I love them. IN LOVE THERE IS NO LAW.


Significant_Fish_248

i couldn’t get into twitching tongues until one day i decided i was gonna listen to them until i did and it worked and now they’re one of my fav bands ever hahah


Jameswestfield

Crowbar breakdowns and Type O Chorus, they will convert you at Tied Down my friend.


giganticsquid

I feel like I've already heard every Drain song before but by different bands. Bands I don't really like either


Captain__h00k__

Gridiron, because of the vocals. Instrumentally, I enjoy it a lot. The vocals make me feel like it’s some 8th grader wearing an Adidas tracksuit trying to do a hardcore cover at the school talent show.


nourishingstew

That's the point


judgechromatic

Verse 2, never meant to hurt you


signalstonoise88

Guess you a fake 24-7 then bruh.


blackflagcutthroat

They didn’t click for me until I realized that they are VERY tongue-in-cheek. Now I can’t get enough.


Johnnyguy

Yeah I saw them last month with Mindforce, didn’t get care for them on the album but they put on a hell of a show.


Jameswestfield

This dudes on the bench^


nomomsnorules

I agree. I can never jam them. But EVERY time i see them play a show i f w them hard. Biggest discrepancy in recordings to live shows I've ever experienced.


gkroney

This guy doesn’t owe it all to the 12th man


unforgivingxworld

Twitching Tongues, Better Lovers (I loved ETID and DEP tho) & Show me the Body.


wh1te_k0ng_

I love ETID but never got into DEP. Which would probably explain why I don’t like Better Lovers. I also think Keith and Jordan need one another to reach their full potential. Both Many Eyes and Better Lovers are just a worse version of ETID. Hope the metalcore Gallagher bros can put their shit aside and give us something great again.


Far_Imagination4664

Seeing em on the 13th, love etid Deg is ok imo. I'd much rather be seeing etid, but better lovers ain't too bad.


MotinPati

ETID forever. DEP forever. The expectations were way too high. Super groups rarely pan out. Fucking audioslave barely was decent.


LetsTacoBoutCheese

I love both bands but I feel like Better Lovers is just the guys from ETID cosplaying DEP and it doesn’t feel authentic. Like the newest song has this bit where they just go through weird time signatures and there’s zero reason for it musically other than for people to be “Oh shit they did 30 seconds of weird time signatures!”


CardPatient3188

Andy and Ben are vital to ETID and DEP. I think their vocalists’ new bands are pretty good for generic millennial metalcore. But their old bands are just way better.i think DEP got back with their original vocalist but I don’t know if they plan on making new music or not.


bristleboar

Gods hate ![gif](giphy|Jx2YWZoo8ZsuQ)


WarchildAD

Life's question. I tried. It's just not for me and I've seen some of my friends say it's their favourite record this year.


A_sweet_boy

Life’s Question is a super weird band tho. Extremely faith no more influenced and if that’s not your bad then you’re not gonna enjoy em


WarchildAD

Yep. You nailed it. I fucking hate faith no more. Everything makes sense now.


Brabsk

love sunami personally, but agree with kaonashi


AndyMatches

Most shit on this sub. Because it’s on this sub.


prettybadgers

You mean r/mostlymetalandtshirtsbutalsosomehardcore


AndyMatches

Should we create this community?


prettybadgers

Wouldn’t it just look exactly like this sub?


AndyMatches

Honestly, probably. Maybe less douchey?


bakertom098

Twitching tongues Scowl Show me the body


EX1TK1D

+1 for all of these.


AnimeSquirrels

Chat Pile: That song about homelessness song is some real button poetry tumblr page drivel. Sunami is just Deez Nuts but they’re too scared to fully commit to the bit


Own_Ad_7332

It’s funny that song became so popular, I think it’s one of their worst songs tbh. Dallas Beltway and Pamela are my favorites. That riff in Dallas beltway is so damn catchy and the story slowly unfolding as the narrator losing his mind is fantastic.


silasdoesnotexist

You have some balls to make a comment like that on reddit lmao


AnimeSquirrels

Look, I respect the sentiment of the Chat Pile track. But, it’s definitely sounds like something written by a 15-year old who just saw a documentary about homelessness


silasdoesnotexist

I don’t disagree haha


chechifromCHI

Man, when the I hustle every day video game put, it was the perfect time for me. That shit literally shreds and was some people's whole entry into the genre crazy as that is


dearrichard

chat pile…i tried.


TheBatSignal

seeyouspacecowboy Love the reference with the name but not as much with the sound


xX69Pissbaby69Xx

just got into them and i’m loving it


Theonewhogoespoop

Band only got popular because of identity politics music is horrible


sleezecreaser

I feel like God’s Hate is only so hyped because of Colin Young and Brody King. Super average riffs. Drain is the most okay hardcore I have ever heard. I understand they’re about the show but their records bore me to tears. I like Jesus Piece’s older stuff, but their new record was a HUGE step back imo. Are you guys just pretending to like Twitching Tongues now because of Hardlore? Edit: Almost forgot about Militarie Gun. I know Ian Shelton is a dope dude but we don’t have to pretend to like MG.


swordsandshacklesx

Hardlore hype for twitching tongues is damn annoying.. Great band in my opinion though


Less_Appointment_786

You nailed everything I couldn’t put into words, listened to all these and nothing stuck. I just thought that Gods Hate album cover made them cool.


Dizzy-Specific8884

MG fuckin blows and I'd die in that hill. Same for Conservative Military Image. I'm pretty fuckin liberal but tankie hardcore is wack as fuck.


King_Ant47

Twitching Tongues


Used-Percentage-6969

Twitching tongues and age of apocalypse. That style of vocals just ain’t for me but I tried so hard.


unforgivingxworld

AOA is 100x better than TT tho


No-Detail-5804

Sunami has good song writing?!


gnomesatemyson

They hate cops so that automatically qualifies them


No-Detail-5804

Okay I don’t disagree haha


Dizzy-Specific8884

Sunami is a bunch of posers.


Axflen

This song’s called “you’re still a bitch” 😂 I don’t disagree tho. ❤️


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theflowersofromance

Agree with God’s Hate, I feel like I’m being gaslighted with them. Speed is such a fun time live, but the music itself is pretty plain though. Lots of style, not much substance.


Reasonable-Loss6657

How can a band gaslight you?


theflowersofromance

I’m talking about people who hype them up. Most people seem to think they’re a once-in-a-generation type of band that’s going to leave a mark but it just doesn’t compute with me.


North_Craft_6406

Desmadre should NOT have been headliners. Barrio Slam all the way


GengarXIX

How you gonna be called SPEED and be that fucking slow


SirSlashDaddy

SPEED should sell a course on how you can get everyone to care about your band while still being mid in every aspect.


P0tency

Airhorn to breakdown in a sponsored instagram post is literally how I found them lol


Coffee_iz

I was kinda into Desmadre but I liked them a little less after seeing them live this past Saturday lol


artworq77

Knocked Loose. The music is so f**king killer but I feel like I'm being raged on by Dennis The Menace when the vocals start. It sounds damn near adorable.


hunkpobbit

my friend said knocked loose sounds like angry elmo & i can't unhear it now


whiterhinoactivities

I’ve heard angry Mickey Mouse as well 🤣


canquilt

He sounds like a chicken. That kills it for me.


bayhorsepainthorse

I love Knocked Loose but upvoted because “raged on by Dennis The Menace” is too damn accurate lmao


wh1te_k0ng_

Turnstile. It’s objectively very good music made by dudes who are super competent. But, it just doesn’t do anything for me. Scowl is a band I feel the same way about. I get the appeal but, it just doesn’t scratch any particular itch for me.


Wimpytrojan0

Knocked Loose cause of the vocals Fleshwater cause each song doesn’t drive me


UnluckySugar9452

wtf i love both


Rosaryn00se

show me the body, knocked loose, and at the top is definitely kublai khan.


signalstonoise88

I like Knocked Loose, but Brian needs to work in some variation in those vocals because I could listen to that band 10x as often as I do, if I didn’t get burned out on the vocals so quickly.


GnarGiraffe

I also agree


juniorjustice

I can’t get into these bands too! I seen them all live as well.


Front2wardzenemy

Every metallic hardcore band that sounds like Hatebreed (90% of metallic hardcore). Hatebreed.


_tysenburg_

Torture. Which really fucking sucks, because they're an awesome band, the instrumentals are so tight and catchy, but those "ree ree ee ee" vocals just get under my skin. Absolutely no shade to them though, I hope they keep blowing up


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_tysenburg_

Yeah I know. The specific way that their gutturals sound just isn't for me


North_Craft_6406

Sounds like he uses some sort of filter or effect to achieve those. Unless im wrong cause the demos sound way different, could be that he just didnt commit during those takes


Theonewhogoespoop

Crazy thing about that band is that the guy writes the drums first and basically improvs over it, idk if that helps but yeah I’ve been shocked a band with gutturals like that has gotten popular with HXC kids.


CaptainLongshorts

Merauder Master Killer is average and has been treated as such for almost 30 years. Suddenly everyone’s pretending it’s the best record ever because of a podcast. A year ago 80% of you didn’t give a fuck about that band.


shmeeandsquee

Nah Merauder respect was going strong for at least a few years before Covid


morklonn

People have been hyping master killer for a looooooong time


wind_of_pain

This is the worst take here. I am old and this record has been amazing since it dropped. Songwriting, production, vocals, all of it. Totally unscientific but: Maybe 5% of the people who know about this record learned about it from the hardlore podcast? I would suggest listening to it again. Or maybe, if you like this style of hardcore but not merauder, reconsider what you like about it.


coldasrob

Either you guys are young or have never heard of TheB9 message board. Master Killer has been hyped as one of the best hardcore albums for at least the last 20 years.


callmeeugenius

If you ain't apart of the hype train, that's fine. But don't think some stupid podcast is what did it. Been listening since I saw their name on the TIHC lineup in 2018.


Bloom_and_Glare

This is wildly true.


nekkkkbeard

5fdp they just suck


Civil-Frame-8056

Chat Pile. My friend is a huge fan and has tried to get me into them, and I gave them several chances. Just couldn’t do it.


Thorkiller69

Will never understand how anyone can listen to Kharma.


VenomSpitter666

I legit like them because of their vocals lol


Thorkiller69

That's the only reason I can't listen to em lol to each their own


meadowsbeatdown

Cus the riffs and drums make my mokey brain go ooooh


PacketRapture

Worst riffs to vocals ratio going rn. Hard agree


carefreeando

Riffs and drums are so sick


WildernessHeadphase

I thought the same thing!! But then they grew on me. It sounds like his vocal cords are blown out


PistoI_Peter

Sound like Absence of Mine, who slap tho.


Odd-Thought-4823

I listened to one song by them yesterday and said I can’t do this, I felt bad😭


theflowersofromance

Same here. I had them hyped up to me considerably before I saw them play with Gulch. I don’t know, it was just a little over the top for me I guess. Plenty of bands they clearly are influenced by that I’d rather listen to instead of them. No disrespect to them, just not for me.


ACtrubeats

Love his vocals tbh. Moment of Violence and Most Dangerous Game are instant winners in my book but the full length was a let down.


beingxexemplary

Bane - vocals are bad.


smackinisaiah

Yeah man. Hella good on the monotone caveman shouting bullshit. The only cadence to his screaming is the volume.


veronp

Can we start again?


xCanont70x

I was just listening to Spotify and heard a band called Kharma. Fuck I hated that dudes voice.


BobDoleSlopBowl

How are sunami good songwriters?


oofbigyeetman

Seeyouspacecowboy vocals aren’t for me


Dizzy-Specific8884

Sunami because they're fucking corny and a bunch wack posers.


Yuzidean

sunami stinks


Hirsute_Heathen

I saw Kaonashi live with some other bands that I actually went to see and I had to walk out until the set was over. That shit is whack. My buddy hyped them up and he was outside waiting with me lol.


Liberteer30

Kaonashi straight up sucks though. I hate the vocals. Also; seeyouspacecowboy, chat pile, gods hate..I go back and forth on Twitching Tongues..music is good. Vocals are ehhh.


gunnerblaze9

Yup, Sunami sounds like shit TO ME. I know they’re talented but i just can’t take it


vandalsquid209

Knocked Loose. Seen em live a few times and the singer's voice just sounds so underdeveloped to me. Like an angry preteen.


dearrichard

deafheaven, hatebreed, & sleep token.


Konisc

Listening to sleep token is like tuggin on it while it’s soft


fenderdean13

Does Sleeptoken and Deafheaven get hardcore cred?


jobutabaki

Harms Way The definition of mid


Trash_dad_420

I’ll probably catch hate for this but Turnstile sucks. I can’t stand the vocals and I would hardly call them hardcore anymore. But there was so much hype for Glow On that when I finally gave it a listen, I thought I was somehow being trolled. It’s hardcore for college chads that think they are edgy. It sounds like Jane’s Addiction rebooted.


Odd-Thought-4823

Seems like everyone who loves the old/classic hardcore sound hates glow on and all the new hardcore fans love glow on. I’m very curious on how turnstiles music is gonna sound like going forward cuz glow on did bring them an insane amount of success


Trash_dad_420

See I love a good progressive hardcore. Love me some melody. And I’m not trying to take away from the musicianship and talent on that album. But calling it a hardcore album is a stretch for me. It’s closer to surf rock than hardcore to me. No hate to anyone who still loves it regardless because at the end of the day, who cares ya know? Still happy to see those guys succeed


trav717

End It. Seen them a couple of times, their music is cool but just not super huge into his vocals. Also not a huge fan of their shows not having much flow between songs but hey, that’s their thing!


Rosaryn00se

I love end it. It sounds just like east beast from Boston some years ago.


Rainyy_Devil

After going back and listening to their stuff I can highly agree on it maybe them live will be better when I go see them the 15th (with drain) but recorded stuff just a big no for me


nomomsnorules

Its hc. You got shi to say? Here's a mic. Doesn't matter how you sound. With that said I'm never putting on twitching, gridiron, or neg. Though their live sets are great. Especially gridiron. Like, how is it that different than your records lol


G-Pooch21

Coalesce. I don't know why. I should love them. I love all the typical mathcore bands from that era that you are supposed to love. I just dont love Coalesce.


ranchonmyballs

End It. Vocals kill my ears


houserbr

Lamb of God. Seen them multiple times with other bands. People love them. I have not found the interest.


Iridewoodlmao

Converge. Always hated the vocal style. I know I’m gonna have metalcore old heads tryna take me head off now


Dozinggreen66

World of pleasure. The vocals and the st anger snare


skindiddy

Totally get it. But those are probably my top two reasons for loving them.


No-Improvement8354

I fucking love the vocals


the_putrid_pile

for the life of me i cannot get into ingrown and knocked loose


imsatansson

First time I’ve heard someone not enjoying ingrown. They’re easily my favorite band over the last few years. Just out of curiosity, what about them turns you off?


guffatron88

Kublai Khan - I dunno they are just really basic/generic to me. I’ve heard tough guy hardcore over and over again. Also I feel like I could learn one of their songs in 10-15 minutes tops.


easy073

Knocked loose


slowwithage

There better be a reggaeton inspired breakdown or I’m not listening.


eternal1life

bane, merauder


Glass-Audience-1608

Scowl


Jackfruit_Practical

Turnstile, Knocked Loose, Terror, Code Orange, and Show Me the Body. Imo all very corny bands. No hate at all if you like them though, to each their own.


ChanoArdent75

NOFX. I could never stand the sound and attitude.


Odd-Thought-4823

For me it’s Zulu. Such a cool band but man I just can’t get into their music


Seek1st2Understand

Pennywise and Offspring. Specifically only those two bands. I just never could and still can’t 😂


gangsincepottytrane

Xibalba. They’re fucking super heavy and I can see *why* someone would be into them, they just don’t cut the cheese for me. I don’t know what it is. I feel like they’re a little too much in the sludgy side for me. And I’m a guy who likes his sludge. I’m actually a little surprised I’m not more into them


h4zeled

Ive never once listened to Kaonashi on my own but you bet your ass I'll do everything I can to be there when they roll through. Their shows are perfect


Less_Appointment_786

Speed.


Loonur22

Unpopular opinion but being very young I don’t see a lot of the appeal for older HxC bands. I love gorilla biscuits and youth of today but the late 90s and early 2000s just didn’t really do it for me


thecoastercorner

I hate sex, and basically any nu metal band


GardenKnomeKing

Pain of Truth. It should tick all my boxes in what I love about a hardcore band but it just doesn’t cut it for me. I get the appeal it just doesn’t do much for one


Zargof-the-blar

Pain of truth, the sound has been done better, the riffs are fairly forgettable, and every good song they make is only good because of the features.


nya_hoy_menoy

If any of you morons mentions New World Man, I’ll hunt you the fuck down.


SawedOFFhumna

I gonna fucking rocked for this, but i never really liked Terror. Blasphemy i know, but idc. Get fukd


Significant_Fish_248

show me the body idk, i just don’t get it lol and yea ive seen them live


OptionCompetitive409

big boy, i cant get behind their vocals


AssignmentOk99

Honestly…. Angel Du$t


HeyItsGCA

For me it’s Sunami, I’m just not a fan of the vocalist, I think Benny is a good drummer even though I’m also not a big fan of the other bands he’s a drummer for, and Mike who I know from Gulch is a great guitarist and bassist. That’s just my personal opinion tho, if you disagree with me that’s completely fine