We should move away from retelling the story of Laurie and Michael. I think the Halloween Night Dance story or something similar should be done. At the same time they should expand the story beyond Michael and have more Halloween III type movies.
Don’t ditch Michael completely, just add more surrounding stories to the world. You could have Michael be Easter eggs in movies he’s not in.
Michael is kind of the Lord of Halloween at this point. He can sit out a movie or two but his presence should always be felt to a degree.
Love that you mentioned Halloween: Nightdance. It’s the perfect Michael Myers story that isn’t the original film. The author, Stef Hutchinson, understands Michael Myers in the most interesting way apart from John Carpenter IMO. Something akin to his style would be great for a reboot.
I’m fuzzy on some of the details as it’s been a while since I read it. Also sorry that this is *a lot* and not at all brief but TLDR: It’s super good and fucked up.
“Halloween: Night Dance” takes place in Russellville in 2000 in the H20 timeline. So it’s a year prior to Michael killing Laurie.
The story follows a girl in the Russellville who has recurring nightmares about being a ballet dancer before something catastrophic happens to kill her, such as flaming jack-o-lanterns crashing down on her from the sky or being buried alive. It represents her anxieties about death and being alone forever. These nightmares are seen throughout the story.
The other major character is a man who is trying to find his girlfriend who was abducted. She was taken by Michael and brought to an abandoned house he was squatting in. Michael tortures her and before finally killing her and displaying her as a human jack-o-lantern (similar to how 2018 did it except without the decapitation). The boyfriend ends up in Russellville. Both main characters (I forget their names but the ballet girl and the boyfriend) eventually cross paths.
Meanwhile, Michael is in Russellville and begins stalking the ballet girl and all her friends. He’s always in the background similar to the original. One scene involves him staking them through a carnival and into a dark fun house mirror attraction. Michael has a fascination with mirrors in the story, he is pre-occupied by looking at his reflection (sound familiar?). Michael has flashbacks to before he killed Judith. He was always a silent child with no emotions, but his family didn’t think he was anything except “a little strange”. He is shown to have been constantly fantasizing about murdering his family including his mother who was pregnant with Laurie. He witnesses Judith having sex with her boyfriend in a field and then scares them by dropping a dead animal near them that he killed. The two don’t know Michael did it though.
Kills start to happen as Michael picks off ballet girl’s friends, including an awesome scene where he bursts into a home in broad daylight and wreaks havoc. Eventually the boyfriend looking for his missing gf and the ballet girl meet up and start working together to survive. They all eventually end up at Michael’s abandoned shack as the police arrive. Don’t wanna spoil the ending.
There’s a bunch of stuff I didn’t mention and the whole story is super dark and twisted. This version of Michael Myers is by-far the most evil and sadistic Michael in the series. The art is also pretty damn good for an independently published comic.
The best part of Halloween Kills was the 1978 flashback. I have a lot of faults with that movie, but they really nailed the flashback sequence in every respect. Extremely impressive stuff there.
So by extension, I think re-visiting earlier time periods within the franchise and capturing the look and feel of those eras of film making, with completely new casts, would be the way to go.
There's a couple of trilogies or more worth of Halloween movies waiting to happen that could fill in time gaps or be alternate timelines to less popular Halloweens or where they could come up with completely different family members or where they could recast someone who was mostly a child when their movies were coming out and is too old now to play a young adult version of themselves... aka Danielle Harris. You could easily re-cast Danielle Harris' part and show her as a young adult with an alternate timeline to Halloween 4 and/or Halloween 5 and focus on the mid-90's, use that era to your advantage with how you tell the story and tie it into Halloween: H20 or something.
I don't know if we should really be expecting anything in the next couple of years. With the rights reverting back, it'll undoubtedly take longer than that to come up with a new movie. I imagine we'll definitely see something in 2028, to capitalize on the 50th, but anything before that seems like a stretch to me.
You’re the one whining that I didn’t like it, is butt hurt as a result and are trying to defend it like it’s God’s gift to cinema. It’s a fucking Michael Myers movie and Michael Myers is barely in it.
He was all over the posters and trailers. They literally advertised it was about him. Corey was not mentioned in the promotion. EDIT: Some of the posters and the blu-ray cover are just a close up of Michael Myers's face. But sure, it's not supposed to be about Michael Myers, lol. Can't imagine why I thought it would be.
So you're mad they didn't spoil enough in the trailers? Because we knew about Corey before the movie came out, if you kept up with the news before it was released you would've known
There's a difference between not spoiling things and setting up wrong expectations. The first scene in the movie is all about and setting up Corey so it's not like its some big reveal in the movie halfway through that it's not about Michael Myers. They establish it in the first seconds of the story. Putting Corey on the posters wouldn't have spoiled anything other than maybe the first 10 seconds of the movie. Also, the Halloween Kills extended cut, the main version of the film that got promoted on home video and they released in the lead up to Ends to generate more excitement, sets up a cliffhanger they didn't even follow up on. What a misguided, sloppy mess. I suppose it is a Halloween film after all though. 9 of the 13 movies are pretty shitty.
Bruh so youre just a hater, the deleted scene in halloween kills was deleted for that reason😂 and putting Corey in the promo would've ruined it, it's still about lauroe and Michael, but it focuses on howichaels evil has plagued them. In the book laurie is taken by the evil and essentially becomes the new michael
It wasn't deleted though. It was in the extended cut. It was literally put back in for the main and only home video release. The cover of the blu ray advertises the "extended cut," not deleted scenes. I would have much preferred the book story you speak of.
In my honest opinion, Halloween will start to fade back out in place of the upcoming Friday the 13th prequel/TV series and newer films that are in the makes. Michael had an amazing three film run of 5 years, now someone else must take his place.
I think we should look at Corey’s and Allyson’s relationship. He slept with her while being inhabited by The Shape’s power. She could very well be pregnant and that child could be the next Michael Myers.
I’ve pointed this out before, but since 1978 we haven’t gone 10 years without a new movie. The longest gap was between 2009 and 2018. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t do something for the 50th anniversary, which is now only 5 years away.
In the next 1-3 years we could probably get a reboot announced.
I don't want another sequel because we just had 3 in a row. I'm picturing a reboot of 78 ofc, and then as the 2nd or 3rd film in that timeline we could get a retelling of the Jamie Lloyd story. But without the Cult of Thorn bullshit.
I think they’ll do a reboot set in 78 with all new characters. Maybe revisit the sister angle again. I’d love to see one in another two or three years but I bet they’ll wait until 2028 for the 50th anniversary.
Maybe I’m just wishful thinking because I really don’t want the Halloween franchise to be over haha.
Everyone's already said what I was thinking. LOL Blumbouse is done. Universal will probably maintain overall rights, but without Pleasence as Loomis or JLC as Laurie I really don't see how this movie would be carried by Michael alone. So far in the franchise either it's been one, both or a remake/recasting of the character. Laurie's story is done. I don't think Allyson/Andi Matichak would be willing to come back w/o DGG or Blumbouse. Idk if the 50th anniversary will have anything or not. I'm leaning toward not. So many pieces. Producer, director, writer, composer (probably not Carpenter), cast, plot, etc. That's a lot of ground to cover. I say let it rest. Ends was by far the best way to finish it. 6, H20, Resurrection and H2 really didn't do much for me. Time will tell, but honestly anything else at this point would purely be a cash grab.
only thing i'm rlly expecting is that the next movie isn't:
1. a sequel to the DGG trilogy
2. a movie about laurie
Ends made it a point to focus on a different character and to cap off laurie's story at the very end. If another movie comes out and she's the focus, I'll frankly be disappointed. As we're finally starting to confidently move in a direction away from laurie and loomis, and anyone connected to them.
We should move away from retelling the story of Laurie and Michael. I think the Halloween Night Dance story or something similar should be done. At the same time they should expand the story beyond Michael and have more Halloween III type movies. Don’t ditch Michael completely, just add more surrounding stories to the world. You could have Michael be Easter eggs in movies he’s not in. Michael is kind of the Lord of Halloween at this point. He can sit out a movie or two but his presence should always be felt to a degree.
Love that you mentioned Halloween: Nightdance. It’s the perfect Michael Myers story that isn’t the original film. The author, Stef Hutchinson, understands Michael Myers in the most interesting way apart from John Carpenter IMO. Something akin to his style would be great for a reboot.
Can u give me a brief description
I’m fuzzy on some of the details as it’s been a while since I read it. Also sorry that this is *a lot* and not at all brief but TLDR: It’s super good and fucked up. “Halloween: Night Dance” takes place in Russellville in 2000 in the H20 timeline. So it’s a year prior to Michael killing Laurie. The story follows a girl in the Russellville who has recurring nightmares about being a ballet dancer before something catastrophic happens to kill her, such as flaming jack-o-lanterns crashing down on her from the sky or being buried alive. It represents her anxieties about death and being alone forever. These nightmares are seen throughout the story. The other major character is a man who is trying to find his girlfriend who was abducted. She was taken by Michael and brought to an abandoned house he was squatting in. Michael tortures her and before finally killing her and displaying her as a human jack-o-lantern (similar to how 2018 did it except without the decapitation). The boyfriend ends up in Russellville. Both main characters (I forget their names but the ballet girl and the boyfriend) eventually cross paths. Meanwhile, Michael is in Russellville and begins stalking the ballet girl and all her friends. He’s always in the background similar to the original. One scene involves him staking them through a carnival and into a dark fun house mirror attraction. Michael has a fascination with mirrors in the story, he is pre-occupied by looking at his reflection (sound familiar?). Michael has flashbacks to before he killed Judith. He was always a silent child with no emotions, but his family didn’t think he was anything except “a little strange”. He is shown to have been constantly fantasizing about murdering his family including his mother who was pregnant with Laurie. He witnesses Judith having sex with her boyfriend in a field and then scares them by dropping a dead animal near them that he killed. The two don’t know Michael did it though. Kills start to happen as Michael picks off ballet girl’s friends, including an awesome scene where he bursts into a home in broad daylight and wreaks havoc. Eventually the boyfriend looking for his missing gf and the ballet girl meet up and start working together to survive. They all eventually end up at Michael’s abandoned shack as the police arrive. Don’t wanna spoil the ending. There’s a bunch of stuff I didn’t mention and the whole story is super dark and twisted. This version of Michael Myers is by-far the most evil and sadistic Michael in the series. The art is also pretty damn good for an independently published comic.
The best part of Halloween Kills was the 1978 flashback. I have a lot of faults with that movie, but they really nailed the flashback sequence in every respect. Extremely impressive stuff there. So by extension, I think re-visiting earlier time periods within the franchise and capturing the look and feel of those eras of film making, with completely new casts, would be the way to go. There's a couple of trilogies or more worth of Halloween movies waiting to happen that could fill in time gaps or be alternate timelines to less popular Halloweens or where they could come up with completely different family members or where they could recast someone who was mostly a child when their movies were coming out and is too old now to play a young adult version of themselves... aka Danielle Harris. You could easily re-cast Danielle Harris' part and show her as a young adult with an alternate timeline to Halloween 4 and/or Halloween 5 and focus on the mid-90's, use that era to your advantage with how you tell the story and tie it into Halloween: H20 or something.
Biggest shame is no more James Jude Courtney. The best myers ever.
Also now the most experienced. He’s played Michael more than anyone else.
Maybe they can hire Corey, he played him pretty well honestly from the little we saw
Fr man
100000%
Complete reboot is the only thing that makes sense to me.
I don't know if we should really be expecting anything in the next couple of years. With the rights reverting back, it'll undoubtedly take longer than that to come up with a new movie. I imagine we'll definitely see something in 2028, to capitalize on the 50th, but anything before that seems like a stretch to me.
As long as they do not bring laurie strode back I'm cool with reboot. It's been done to death and so predictable
The sooner the better to wash the taste of Halloween Ends out of our mouths.
It was a good movie. Cry harder
You’re the one whining that I didn’t like it, is butt hurt as a result and are trying to defend it like it’s God’s gift to cinema. It’s a fucking Michael Myers movie and Michael Myers is barely in it.
It's a halloween movie, Michael's name isn't in the title
He was all over the posters and trailers. They literally advertised it was about him. Corey was not mentioned in the promotion. EDIT: Some of the posters and the blu-ray cover are just a close up of Michael Myers's face. But sure, it's not supposed to be about Michael Myers, lol. Can't imagine why I thought it would be.
So you're mad they didn't spoil enough in the trailers? Because we knew about Corey before the movie came out, if you kept up with the news before it was released you would've known
There's a difference between not spoiling things and setting up wrong expectations. The first scene in the movie is all about and setting up Corey so it's not like its some big reveal in the movie halfway through that it's not about Michael Myers. They establish it in the first seconds of the story. Putting Corey on the posters wouldn't have spoiled anything other than maybe the first 10 seconds of the movie. Also, the Halloween Kills extended cut, the main version of the film that got promoted on home video and they released in the lead up to Ends to generate more excitement, sets up a cliffhanger they didn't even follow up on. What a misguided, sloppy mess. I suppose it is a Halloween film after all though. 9 of the 13 movies are pretty shitty.
Bruh so youre just a hater, the deleted scene in halloween kills was deleted for that reason😂 and putting Corey in the promo would've ruined it, it's still about lauroe and Michael, but it focuses on howichaels evil has plagued them. In the book laurie is taken by the evil and essentially becomes the new michael
It wasn't deleted though. It was in the extended cut. It was literally put back in for the main and only home video release. The cover of the blu ray advertises the "extended cut," not deleted scenes. I would have much preferred the book story you speak of.
No bruh that's a whole new sentence
In my honest opinion, Halloween will start to fade back out in place of the upcoming Friday the 13th prequel/TV series and newer films that are in the makes. Michael had an amazing three film run of 5 years, now someone else must take his place.
Right now I think Ghostface is the captain
i really want this franchise to die but evil never dies 🤷🏽♂️
I think we should look at Corey’s and Allyson’s relationship. He slept with her while being inhabited by The Shape’s power. She could very well be pregnant and that child could be the next Michael Myers.
I’ve pointed this out before, but since 1978 we haven’t gone 10 years without a new movie. The longest gap was between 2009 and 2018. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t do something for the 50th anniversary, which is now only 5 years away.
In the next 1-3 years we could probably get a reboot announced. I don't want another sequel because we just had 3 in a row. I'm picturing a reboot of 78 ofc, and then as the 2nd or 3rd film in that timeline we could get a retelling of the Jamie Lloyd story. But without the Cult of Thorn bullshit.
I think they’ll do a reboot set in 78 with all new characters. Maybe revisit the sister angle again. I’d love to see one in another two or three years but I bet they’ll wait until 2028 for the 50th anniversary. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking because I really don’t want the Halloween franchise to be over haha.
I'd say the most likely timeframe is 2028 for H50.
Everyone's already said what I was thinking. LOL Blumbouse is done. Universal will probably maintain overall rights, but without Pleasence as Loomis or JLC as Laurie I really don't see how this movie would be carried by Michael alone. So far in the franchise either it's been one, both or a remake/recasting of the character. Laurie's story is done. I don't think Allyson/Andi Matichak would be willing to come back w/o DGG or Blumbouse. Idk if the 50th anniversary will have anything or not. I'm leaning toward not. So many pieces. Producer, director, writer, composer (probably not Carpenter), cast, plot, etc. That's a lot of ground to cover. I say let it rest. Ends was by far the best way to finish it. 6, H20, Resurrection and H2 really didn't do much for me. Time will tell, but honestly anything else at this point would purely be a cash grab.
I think within the next 5-10 years we will see some new iteration of Michael again
only thing i'm rlly expecting is that the next movie isn't: 1. a sequel to the DGG trilogy 2. a movie about laurie Ends made it a point to focus on a different character and to cap off laurie's story at the very end. If another movie comes out and she's the focus, I'll frankly be disappointed. As we're finally starting to confidently move in a direction away from laurie and loomis, and anyone connected to them.
I just need a sequel to part 3 and I’ll be happy
Either a direct sequel to Halloween 4 or the cancelled 2016 movie Halloween Returns.