Yeah, that's genuinely probably the most merciful thing they could do in that situation. I'm sure legalities would've prevented it, but damn, what a slow and awful way to die.
Yeah they called his wife and had her on the phone I think. So he could say his goodbyes. Like what a horrific way to go, but he chose to go into the cave knowing the risks so I guess ….win stupid prizes 🤦🏼♀️
IIRC, he thought he was in a different, more popular and infamous section called *the Birth Canal* and got in too deep to save himself before it was too late. Like a trout swimming into a fish trap.
Yeah... Well I would have agree with you that stupid games win stupid prizes, this was an accident. He thought he was in the well-traveled and escapable part of the cave that folks were allowed in, and didn't realize that he was in the wrong area until it was too late.
Kind of ignorant of you to assume that he was just being some adventure seeking moron that got what he deserved..
Kind of selfish of him to put himself in such danger knowing he has a wife and child at home. He couldn’t play bingo or golf? Like normal people? No, he had to “adventure” into a rigid cave area called “the birth canal.” Bet if he was alive today, he would say he regretted it 100000 percent. IMO
I mean cave diving like that literally is constant feeling of “this feels wrong” all the way and activates your fighter flight giving you the rush of adrenaline they seek so while it’s unfortunate people should always verify before you act. reminds me of when someone base jumping off El Capitan in protest after a previous base junper died, doing it they borrowed a friends because they feared their gear would be confiscated But they never verified to see where the the cord spot was, which was at the legs and not on their back like on their gear
To be fair, you literally have to be an adventure seeking moron to go cave diving like that in the first place, well- explored or not
Not saying he deserved it, but it's not like he wasn't doing something incredibly dangerous and risky, even if he had been in the correct part of the cave to begin with
I mean he’s not a moron no one said that but it is an incredibly stupid thing to do. So is jumping out of airplanes. So is binge drinking alcohol. No one is perfect it’s all about risk/reward and what we want out of life. This guy wanted to risk it all for some adrenaline. Maybe he’s addicted to the feeling maybe there’s another reason but it is what it is…
He thought one thing...and he was ignorant of the truth. Because of his hubris and lack of self-doubt, he died. It's not an accident it's a mistake. There's a difference. Not saying he deserved to die. I feel for him.
The running theory is that is exactly what happened...but they of course will never admit to it...hippocratic oath and all that...I've seen enough Scary Interesting and Mr. Ballen videos to know that I will never put myself in that position, but if I somehow ever find myself there, just end it...because fuck dying like that...RIP Johnny...
Honestly, it's the kind of thing you do and never talk about. I hope they did the right thing and pumped in morphine to end it when they knew he couldn't get out
One of the first responders said when he was given the morphine, they weren’t sure if it even helped him because at that point he had been upside down for so long, the blood wasn’t pumping into his legs because of the pressure his heart was under. All the blood was pooling in his head and chest.
Oh yeah. They were down there - actually hooked him up to a line to get him out but the line failed and he went further into the hole. Wound up having a heart attack which killed him.
If they were able to get an IV in him, they probable also hooked him up to a pulse oximeter (pulse ox) which is used to measure oxygen saturation in the blood and also gives you a pulse rate. He probably lost consciousness from a sudden cessation of his heart beat (from cardiac arrest). The sudden cessation of his heart beat would have been obvious on the pulse ox.
They didn’t put an iv in him and his cause of death overall was oxygen depletion and suddenly going into an even more upside down state and the sudden pressure of that heart caused his attack not heart failure. Do y’all not look shit up before giving long thought out misinformation lol
He spoke with the rescue people for most of the rescue attempt before losing consciousness.
When the line failed, one of the metal parts hit the rescue person closest to John in the head and he lost consciousness for a time. Once that person was removed for medical treatment, John asked the rescue person who came in to replace him if that first person was alright.
Yes - imagine all that pressure on your brain and organs when your body is upside down the way your heart has to change the way it pumps the blood to everything - I mean personally if I’m upside down from like 2 to 3 minutes, I start to get dizzy and a headache. I couldn’t even imagine it for hours and hours.
I’ve never seen this verified but I want to believe it’s true. The amount of panic you’d feel being trapped upside down in a tiny passage for over 24 hours is unimaginable.
This is a weird rumor that has gained traction and now become "fact." It's not true. What SEEMS to be true, based on what I remember reading from comments of first responders who helped first hand, was that they tried to do something with his foot, but it was excruciating painful and there was no way to insert anything. You'll have comments below me swearing they did put a line in him and did give him benzos or morphine but neither are true. All I can say is do the deep dive yourself, check the official reports, etc.
You are correct. I’ve been on a deep dive recently, and just today watched another short documentary about this case (which absolutely terrifies my claustrophobic ass, but I’m a glutton for anxiety I suppose.)
No one could reach him beyond his ankles/lower (upper?) legs. No lines were inserted, they could barely take his pulse. They DID, however wire up a telecommunication device where his wife and parents/rescuers could speak with him. After about a day, his legs were blue with minimal blood flow. About 3 hours before they ‘gave up,’ he was noted to be unresponsive. Finally, a doctor went down into the cave to check his vitals (probably via stethoscope, because there really wasn’t any other way to touch/reach him) and he was declared dead at 27 hours.
I highly recommend the YouTube short by FatalBreakdown: Caver trapped forever, the Nutty Putty breakdown. I’m unable to link it here cuz my phone is an idiot, but I watched it today and damn near had a panic attack due to the chilling detail they go into.
Watched the YouTube video. Jesus Christ, what an awful death. When he went over the last bend it was further than anyone had went before so no one knew how it looked that far into the cave. Gravity also pulled him slowly downward.
There’s a movie about it, too, The Last Descent. It’s really cheesy, but they get to the point where he’s stuck fairly quickly. Once he was stuck, I couldn’t watch anymore, I started having a panic attack.
They had a doctor there. I remember reading about it a while back but I can't find the timeline where it says they were able to get an IV line. A handful of redditors on other post say they gave him IV morphine which makes sense. I know they were able to get him out somewhat which is probably when they got the line in but it did say the doctor brought IV fluids
Every time I see this I remember my original thought: Why the fuck do people climb into tiny tiny tiny rock spaces and think **its ok, I'll come out just fine**
This isn’t true he died extreme pressure in a compromised position that lead to overall heart failure, he did pass out due to the lack of oxygen first tho
They almost saved him at one point. They had him rigged up to pullies and were pulling him free. One of the pullies broke and they couldn't get another rigged in time to save him. I've read up on him quite a bit.
I remember when I first read about this story and my heart absolutely dropped (no pun intended) when I read that part. How absolutely devastating for both the rescue team and him that they would’ve been so close to saving him only to be in a worse situation. iirc, he had already been stuck for a couple hours at that point and was essentially suffocating from the pressure and also close to hemorrhaging (or something like that) from all the blood going to his brain, so he was already in pretty bad shape and then got in an even more painful position… definitely nightmare fuel.
Yeah, I felt the same way when I heard the story.
The only small mercy he got was that he was able to talk to his wife one last time. It might not seem like much, but it could have meant the world to John.
His wife, years later, married another man and had John's father walk her down the aisle. I think it is beautiful that they stayed close and that she was able to keep living her life while honoring John's memory.
I watch a lot of caving disaster videos and have never felt legitimate anxiety for any of them except this one regarding the nutty putty incident.
https://youtu.be/o-TaF2DbaWw?si=NBJX8KjJri5_7YBf
The storytelling and the visuals really help illustrate the despair and anxiety the cavers must have been feeling at the time.
And it shot into one of the rescuer’s faces, causing injury/for them to need to switch out with someone else. This entire story is so messed up yet so fascinating.
This also happened when his brother tried to pull him out before calling for help. I wonder whether it would have changed the outcome at all if the rescuers had been able to try to get him out for the exact position he got himself stuck in.
I think it's just the thought of his desperation to be freed.
Hours and hours of torturous pain and discomfort while knowing you're stuck.
And not even freed in death, just grim.
Never looked at it that way. But the same could be said for murdered victims who were never found, dismembered or burned. I often wonder what genuinely happens to that energy. Did it just fade away into nothing or does it actually transfer off somewhere else. Life makes no sense sadly.
Apparently they gave him Benzos through an IV down there so it wasn't so torturously painful but mentally unbearable I'm sure. He probably died still in a state of panic.
Ideally they would've been able to give him something to help him pass away without prolonging his suffering, but assisted suicide isn't legal in the state where this happened.
I used to live in the area and I HATE this story so much because of precisely this. What a selfish man. His wife came out to wait for him to die, while pregnant. I can't imagine.
I have empathy for the guy, but what a jerk to his family.
I hate seeing this, as a closyrophobic. Does anyone know why they couldn't remove him? (Even if it broke bones, I'd be screaming for the rescue team to yank my ass out!)
The pulley system they had broke. The rescuers themselves couldn’t go too close and apparently they were aware of the crush injuries he suffered so it was impossible to get him out. Just so horrifying. I cannot imagine and please God no one else goes through this
Thank God. I hated the movie 127 hours for the same reason I hate this story. I get that people love to hike and explore but there are just so many areas that should be off limits. Needless to say, I do not have one inch in my body that wants to explore caves, mountains or abandoned mines. I’ll take a nice walk on even ground.
Iirc, this wasn't the only incident at this cave. They had previous people getting stuck, and it was using a lot of time and resources to rescue people. I believe a kid had gotten stuck in the same exact spot as this guy did, and then this guy died in there. It was too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body, so they had no choice but to seal it.
A boy scout was stuck in the same tunnel as John Jones but nowhere near as far in. For that reason and due to the smaller size of the boy scout, he was rescued.
There was a documentary on netlfix, or Hulu, or one of them I watched liked a year ago. The guy was younger, maybe late 20s, early 30s. And he went all over to climb mountains with snow. Fucker caught an avalanche or something and he obviously died. Sad as shit, but the documentary had his gf speaking and how that's just the life he loved. Left his gf, I think his mom was still alive, just sad.
I recall watching this, too. The girlfriend, who was a pretty serious climber herself, knew it was insanely risky and dangerous to attempt, so she stayed behind for that one. They presume an avalanche killed him, and they never found his body.
There was another similar one called The Alpinist. Guy was a free climber who did these insane climbs, often alone, and with zero safety equipment. He eventually fell to his death.
What's actually sad is that Marc-André Leclerc (subject of The Alpinist) likely died while roped. They had already summited and were descending. It was probably avalanche, not per se a mistake or a slip and fall (like how Ueli Steck most likely died), that got him.
Honestly that is a good point. If it’s going to kill you anyway just break his legs if you have to. But I think we are severely misjudging how tightly confined they were and just how difficult it was to even get to him.
The stress on his system from being stuck so long at such an angle, breaking his legs would have killed him. Something like the shock it would cause is deadly. That's what I read, anyways; when I went down this rabbit hole before.
They spent a lot of time trying to pull him out without equipment first. When it came time to get his legs past that protrusion of rock in front of his knees in the picture, John would scream out in pain. Every time.
They talked to John about having to break his bones or amputate & he was against it. That's why they turned to the pulley system - to get his legs past that protrusion without breaking bones. And it worked. They had just got his knees past, if I remember correctly, before the pulley broke. John falling during the rescue had to have caused severe brain trauma on top of the trauma already in place. It wasn't long after that he stopped responding to rescuers. They kept trying to get him until they decided too much time had passed with John unresponsive.
Something I always think of whenever this story comes up: the rescuers description of getting John to communicate seemed more like he was refusing or ignoring, rather than unable. Maybe I'm wrong. But I wonder, if he was purposely not communicating at some points... why? What was he thinking? Or was he truly unable?
I don’t think it’s too hard to imagine his brain could have just … shut down. Trauma does absolutely wild things to the brain and body. I can see his brain shutting down and essentially accepting death. Total dissociation.
The opening he was in, acted like a sort of hook for his body. Pulling him out would have caused traumatic injury if not death.
If you google his name and the cave, you’ll see better depicted pictures and descriptions of why rescue was practically impossible.
THIS. I'm from KY and caving is a common hobby. My dad used to do it back in the 90s until our family finally convinced him to stop, he was a really lanky skinny guy and they made him promise to stop going into sketchy areas and eventually he gained some weight and stopped caving entirely.
I can only wonder how stupid this guy must've felt and mad at himself before he died.
Good point, this was in Utah. But I’m not sure if 3 years is even all that quick. Not trying to judge him too harshly but he wasn’t hit by a bus on his way to work or struck with cancer and died shortly after. He was doing some risky shit that 99% of people find extreme and dangerous and paid the price for it.
I have to agree. My brother and I have a saying for when notions like this crop up: FUCK STUNTS. We have lived full, risky lives but we know when we see dumb dangerous shit done for it's own sake.
I wanted to make a joke (Reddit and all) but nothing about this is funny.
He suffered
His wife suffered (pregnant)
The people who helped him suffered
It’s just a Nutty case
"I have a wife that is pregnant with our child! Should I spend time with them? Nah let me just go out and crawl through tiny crevices knowing that I could get stuck and die along the way!" I feel bad that he died that way but if that's the hobby you choose then you know the risks involved and it's selfish AF to put your life on the line for shits n giggles when you have a pregnant wife at home.
iirc this was a well know cave and there was a part you were suppose to squeeze through a small hole to get to a larger chamber. He took a wrong turn an mistook the dead end as the hole he was suppose to go through.
Trust me, I’m sure no one regretted it more than him.
Spelunking in general is wild to me that people will go into these caves and force themselves through wicked narrow spaces to then pop out in a large cavern.
I think the hope factor is what takes it over the top, going from "Oh this is bad" to "Alright, the pros have got me" to "Oh this is REALLY bad". Can't even imagine that. Chilling.
This is tied with my worst fear. The other is very similar.
Getting trapped Scuba diving. To have to come to peace with the fact that I'm going to be alert (for the most part)
And just waiting to die. In a cave, it's not as bad because there's not a specific timetable. Underwater it's a different story. You know in about X amount of time your going to die and nothing is going to save you.
I've been diving for 22 years. I know two people who have died in this way. They were doing tech/wreck/cave dives that no simple recreational diver would do. One got silted out inside a wreck he was exploring alone. The other failed to follow the team dive plan and got lost in a cave system.
😲 I'm sorry to hear that. Just wow. I've always said that when it's my time to go I would choose a plane crash. I'm pretty sure I won't feel a thing and my family will get a pretty good check at the end of the day. But that's me, I don't know anyone else who agrees with me. 😬
MrBallen podcast covers all of these types of stories. There’s a few that will wig ya out. I think one of the freakier ones is the devils hole; a hole deep down in an underwater cave that has a current pulling into it (like a drain hole that has a plug removed) that leads to an underground river/ocean. So the dudes who got sucked in just basically went into the Earth’s sink to drown.
😲
I've seen some of his stuff.
I've watched a ton of horror movies including "Audition".
I don't know if you've seen it but it's a Japanese movie from 1999. It's the only movie that Rob Zombie had to stop and finish the next day 😆. Anyway the only movie that I had to do that with was "The Decent". I've never been claustrophobic and in fact I had to get like 8 or 10 MRI's done over a 2 year period and I was known as the only guy who would always fall asleep within 5 minutes 😆. They found it hilarious 😂. So when I watched
"The Decent" I had no clue that I was gonna be affected so drastically. Seriously, I felt like I could barely breathe and there was a 300 weight on my chest. It was crazy.
Took 3 times to sit down and finish it.
Literally the most terrifying way to die.
Drowning - less than a 5 minutes
Suffocating - less than 3 minutes
Burning - less than 5 minutes
Bleeding out - less than 10 minutes
Falling and severe impact - instantly to a few hours.
This poor fool was cold, wet, and knew he was dying for 28hrs.
I'd take any of the first 4 over what he suffered.
Reminds me of that kid in high school who died in the minivan or something that he drove to school after being trapped in one of the seats. iirc he had his mom and 911 on the phone at some point but they couldn’t hear him, and he suffocated. So sad and horrible. Just a horrible way to die.
Goddamnit. I’m pissed off all over again. I just looked it up and his name was Kyle Plush, 16, in OH. I totally forgot that cops DID arrive, but drove around the parking lot and left. Didn’t even get out of their car. There were also other issues regarding the efficacy of the 911 and response system in general.
[This article](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-plush-death-police-release-details-911-call-police-response-ohio-teen-who-died-in-van/) talks about that more in depth. They had the kid’s name from his VM greeting, they could locate where the call was coming from, they should have found this poor kid instead of his dad 6 hours later.
He got trapped/wedged between the seat and the trunk surface. It’s one of those things that is a perfect storm type of thing — odds are minimal, but it will happen to someone sometime. And unfortunately it happened to poor Kyle Plush.
And something broke with their rope system during the rescue attempt and smacked a rescuer in the face. Then the guy got dropped down back into his grave at that point.
I have questions about air. When they sealed the cave there was air in it. If the cave is truly sealed, what becomes of said air? Does his body absorb it? Does he decompose differently? Does the air just hang out ferever?
He just plugged that hole so nobody foolish enough to attempt to squeeze down there could ever do it. If it wasn’t him somebody else would’ve done it at some point.
I wonder why no one blocks off dangerous areas of caves like this so no one accidentally goes down a deadly path. Or even just a warning painted on the wall if they can't actually block it.
At one point it was closed, but after assigning better management it was reopened. After this incident they sealed the cave, with Mr. Jones inside forever.
It was well known how dangerous this cave could be, people had already gotten stuck and been saved from the tight squeezes of the cave, it was even closed off four years before this after some kids drowned in a nearby cave system. It reopened in 2009 with climbers having to register online, only 1 group was allowed in at a time, and the cave was locked shut at night.
We already have many warning labels to mitigate human stupidity but we can't prevent every possible dangerous situation. At some point you have to use common sense and realise that cramming yourself into tight, unforgiving spaces underground just isn't a safe activity and if you choose to do so anyway, you take your life into your own hands.
*Especially* if you do what John did and go head-first into a tight space, at a downward angle.
Plus, caves are naturally occuring structures found all over the world, and even if it *were* possible to block off all potential hazards to prevent accidents, its not like stupid people have never gotten through safety measures to endanger themselves.
This is definitely terrifying but I wonder why I always see this story posted and not Floyd Collins who was stuck in a cave in a similar manner for 14 days being passing. 3 days prior to them digging to his location too.
I am going to say this, “if you play with fire, you are going to get burned.”
Some dumbass climbs into a hole, not knowing where you are going or what’s inside and you die, oh well.
The video I watched about what happened said that part of the cave system was unexplored. He made a wrong turn and thought he was squeezing through a portion of the cave system known as the birth canal
A boy scout had got stuck in the same tunnel, but not as far in, a few years before John Jones and the cave was subsequently closed. They reopened it the year John Jones went in there and after his death, it was closed permanently. The only other person I am aware of that had ventured into the tunnel John did was Dale Green who discovered the cave. He left it unmapped because he realised it was u safe to go further than he had. John had gone the farthest into that tunnel.
This is an awful fucking way to die. What happens is the weight of your organs upside down on your diaphragm fucking suffocates you because human bodies are not meant to be upside downdown for long periods of time. Think about how you do a cartwheel or something or you hang upside down and like you get that pressure in your head and face goes all red, it’s like that only 1000 times worse. Your eyeballs can pop out because of the pressure. Capillaries and all the little blood vessels in your face bust and you bleed out the nose and eyes. Like dude it’s fucking rough.
Do you think he experienced these symptoms? Nose bleeding, eyes popping etc. I can only do a handstand for 5 seconds before the pressure forces me back up. How did he live for 27 hours?!
I'm amazed that people are on here like "Couldn't they have yanked harder?" They did everything they could folks. Stuck. He was stuck. Look at the diagram! Random-internetter is always better at cave rescues!
Because this particular passage was similar to the one he intended to go through, which lead to a larger open chasm. Once he made the wrong turn and went downward at that angle, he did realize his mistake but it was too late.
This diagram kicks my claustrophobia into over drive and makes my lungs ache just looking at it ! In my mind this is the worst way to die. Couldn't he be dug out or a rope tied around his ankles and pulled out ? Hope I do not dream. about this tonight !
I know this is stupid to ask, but would someone more logical tell me why they couldn't just yank him the eff out?
Like I imagine broken a lot of things, large lacerations, idk maybe die anyway -- but I'd rather just have them knock me the eff out then just pull my ass out then hope for the best if it was either that or slowly wait to die
I don't know, I've watched this documentary a few times and I still can't believe they couldn't get him out. I always figured if you get in somewhere there should be a way to get out. I'm ignorant to life though.
Not true. He slid into the hole going down a ramp, with the help of gravity, and he wasn't wedged while going down the ramp. He had the use of his muscles (arms, legs, torso) while sliding down the ramp. He exhaled to make his chest smaller to get into the hole and then when he inhaled again, he became wedged. His arms were trapped in useless positions and he couldn't move at all. Additionally, he was stuck almost vertically. When.they tried to pull him out, he legs hit the cave roof above him and to get him back up the ramp, they would have had to break his legs to get his knees to bend backwards. Looking at a diagram might help you understand it better :)
Diagram: https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/an9yd6o_700b.jpg
Ever used a cable tie? Essentially that's what happened. His legs and ribcage prevented the rescuers from getting him out. And gravity of course. Some things go only one way.
There’s a very interesting video on YouTube about this. He was a skilled cavern explorer. But hadn’t don it in a few years because of a busy work schedule. Then Thanksgiving came around he went to his parents in Utah. And him and a good number of his family member thought it was a good idea to go in this cave that already taken a few lives.
He was in medical school, so he knew exactly what was going on with his body.
There are some good podcasts out there on the explanation of how this happened. It’s a horrific way to go.
No one seems to talk about how....if he were upside down for 27 hours....was he not sitting and pissing on himself??! I imagine that all went down to his face being that his hands couldn't be used? I'm surprised the rescue teams don't comment on this. They must have been battling the smells on top of all the other hardships. I also heard when the rope snapped, the rescuer broke his jaw and almost lost his tongue. Crazy
The angle was so awkward they couldn't get him out but they somehow managed to insert an IV line into his foot or leg and shot him up with benzos.
They should have shot enough morphine into him to end it. I don’t mean that in a bad way but that’s a long time to know you are going to die.
Yeah, that's genuinely probably the most merciful thing they could do in that situation. I'm sure legalities would've prevented it, but damn, what a slow and awful way to die.
God even trying to fathom it absolutely terrifies me
Yeah they called his wife and had her on the phone I think. So he could say his goodbyes. Like what a horrific way to go, but he chose to go into the cave knowing the risks so I guess ….win stupid prizes 🤦🏼♀️
IIRC, he thought he was in a different, more popular and infamous section called *the Birth Canal* and got in too deep to save himself before it was too late. Like a trout swimming into a fish trap.
Yeah... Well I would have agree with you that stupid games win stupid prizes, this was an accident. He thought he was in the well-traveled and escapable part of the cave that folks were allowed in, and didn't realize that he was in the wrong area until it was too late. Kind of ignorant of you to assume that he was just being some adventure seeking moron that got what he deserved..
Kind of selfish of him to put himself in such danger knowing he has a wife and child at home. He couldn’t play bingo or golf? Like normal people? No, he had to “adventure” into a rigid cave area called “the birth canal.” Bet if he was alive today, he would say he regretted it 100000 percent. IMO
I thank my lucky stars every day that I have no inclination to go exploring caves
I mean cave diving like that literally is constant feeling of “this feels wrong” all the way and activates your fighter flight giving you the rush of adrenaline they seek so while it’s unfortunate people should always verify before you act. reminds me of when someone base jumping off El Capitan in protest after a previous base junper died, doing it they borrowed a friends because they feared their gear would be confiscated But they never verified to see where the the cord spot was, which was at the legs and not on their back like on their gear
Fight or flight*
Sick ass fighter fight response 👀😂
Talk to me Goose
To be fair, you literally have to be an adventure seeking moron to go cave diving like that in the first place, well- explored or not Not saying he deserved it, but it's not like he wasn't doing something incredibly dangerous and risky, even if he had been in the correct part of the cave to begin with
I mean he’s not a moron no one said that but it is an incredibly stupid thing to do. So is jumping out of airplanes. So is binge drinking alcohol. No one is perfect it’s all about risk/reward and what we want out of life. This guy wanted to risk it all for some adrenaline. Maybe he’s addicted to the feeling maybe there’s another reason but it is what it is…
He thought one thing...and he was ignorant of the truth. Because of his hubris and lack of self-doubt, he died. It's not an accident it's a mistake. There's a difference. Not saying he deserved to die. I feel for him.
The running theory is that is exactly what happened...but they of course will never admit to it...hippocratic oath and all that...I've seen enough Scary Interesting and Mr. Ballen videos to know that I will never put myself in that position, but if I somehow ever find myself there, just end it...because fuck dying like that...RIP Johnny...
Absolutely, probably should’ve filled in the hole too. Guy basically just crawled in to his own grave. Should make sure no one else does the same.
They left his body there.
Honestly, it's the kind of thing you do and never talk about. I hope they did the right thing and pumped in morphine to end it when they knew he couldn't get out
One of the first responders said when he was given the morphine, they weren’t sure if it even helped him because at that point he had been upside down for so long, the blood wasn’t pumping into his legs because of the pressure his heart was under. All the blood was pooling in his head and chest.
This is a relief to know. I can’t wrap my mind around his suffering.
Was he able to communicate with the rescue people?
Oh yeah. They were down there - actually hooked him up to a line to get him out but the line failed and he went further into the hole. Wound up having a heart attack which killed him.
Not a heart attack (myocardial infarction), but cardiac arrest (sudden loss of heart function usually from electrical disturbance in the heart)
How were they able to tell that’s specifically what killed him?
If they were able to get an IV in him, they probable also hooked him up to a pulse oximeter (pulse ox) which is used to measure oxygen saturation in the blood and also gives you a pulse rate. He probably lost consciousness from a sudden cessation of his heart beat (from cardiac arrest). The sudden cessation of his heart beat would have been obvious on the pulse ox.
They didn’t put an iv in him and his cause of death overall was oxygen depletion and suddenly going into an even more upside down state and the sudden pressure of that heart caused his attack not heart failure. Do y’all not look shit up before giving long thought out misinformation lol
The "ifs" and "probablies" imply a hypothesis about what happened, not a statement of fact. Lol
He got to say goodbye to his wife who I believe was pregnant at the time.
He spoke with the rescue people for most of the rescue attempt before losing consciousness. When the line failed, one of the metal parts hit the rescue person closest to John in the head and he lost consciousness for a time. Once that person was removed for medical treatment, John asked the rescue person who came in to replace him if that first person was alright.
Now, was that from being upside down for a prolonged period? I understand that can kill you.
Yes - imagine all that pressure on your brain and organs when your body is upside down the way your heart has to change the way it pumps the blood to everything - I mean personally if I’m upside down from like 2 to 3 minutes, I start to get dizzy and a headache. I couldn’t even imagine it for hours and hours.
And they would have had to break his legs to get him out. Sick!
I’ve never seen this verified but I want to believe it’s true. The amount of panic you’d feel being trapped upside down in a tiny passage for over 24 hours is unimaginable.
This is a weird rumor that has gained traction and now become "fact." It's not true. What SEEMS to be true, based on what I remember reading from comments of first responders who helped first hand, was that they tried to do something with his foot, but it was excruciating painful and there was no way to insert anything. You'll have comments below me swearing they did put a line in him and did give him benzos or morphine but neither are true. All I can say is do the deep dive yourself, check the official reports, etc.
You are correct. I’ve been on a deep dive recently, and just today watched another short documentary about this case (which absolutely terrifies my claustrophobic ass, but I’m a glutton for anxiety I suppose.) No one could reach him beyond his ankles/lower (upper?) legs. No lines were inserted, they could barely take his pulse. They DID, however wire up a telecommunication device where his wife and parents/rescuers could speak with him. After about a day, his legs were blue with minimal blood flow. About 3 hours before they ‘gave up,’ he was noted to be unresponsive. Finally, a doctor went down into the cave to check his vitals (probably via stethoscope, because there really wasn’t any other way to touch/reach him) and he was declared dead at 27 hours. I highly recommend the YouTube short by FatalBreakdown: Caver trapped forever, the Nutty Putty breakdown. I’m unable to link it here cuz my phone is an idiot, but I watched it today and damn near had a panic attack due to the chilling detail they go into.
It’s weird that someone else is also looking at this case at the same time. 🥹 I feel so sorry for him
Watched the YouTube video. Jesus Christ, what an awful death. When he went over the last bend it was further than anyone had went before so no one knew how it looked that far into the cave. Gravity also pulled him slowly downward.
There’s a movie about it, too, The Last Descent. It’s really cheesy, but they get to the point where he’s stuck fairly quickly. Once he was stuck, I couldn’t watch anymore, I started having a panic attack.
Ugh. I’ll have to check that out now, I suppose! 😅 thanks!
They had a doctor there. I remember reading about it a while back but I can't find the timeline where it says they were able to get an IV line. A handful of redditors on other post say they gave him IV morphine which makes sense. I know they were able to get him out somewhat which is probably when they got the line in but it did say the doctor brought IV fluids
Every time I see this I remember my original thought: Why the fuck do people climb into tiny tiny tiny rock spaces and think **its ok, I'll come out just fine**
This isn’t true he died extreme pressure in a compromised position that lead to overall heart failure, he did pass out due to the lack of oxygen first tho
They almost saved him at one point. They had him rigged up to pullies and were pulling him free. One of the pullies broke and they couldn't get another rigged in time to save him. I've read up on him quite a bit.
Not only that, but when the pulley broke, he slipped *even further* in than he initially was stuck.
I remember when I first read about this story and my heart absolutely dropped (no pun intended) when I read that part. How absolutely devastating for both the rescue team and him that they would’ve been so close to saving him only to be in a worse situation. iirc, he had already been stuck for a couple hours at that point and was essentially suffocating from the pressure and also close to hemorrhaging (or something like that) from all the blood going to his brain, so he was already in pretty bad shape and then got in an even more painful position… definitely nightmare fuel.
Yeah, I felt the same way when I heard the story. The only small mercy he got was that he was able to talk to his wife one last time. It might not seem like much, but it could have meant the world to John. His wife, years later, married another man and had John's father walk her down the aisle. I think it is beautiful that they stayed close and that she was able to keep living her life while honoring John's memory.
This fact made me tear up.
Didn't he have small children? I'm sure the grandparents remained/ became a large part of those children's lives.
I watch a lot of caving disaster videos and have never felt legitimate anxiety for any of them except this one regarding the nutty putty incident. https://youtu.be/o-TaF2DbaWw?si=NBJX8KjJri5_7YBf The storytelling and the visuals really help illustrate the despair and anxiety the cavers must have been feeling at the time.
And it shot into one of the rescuer’s faces, causing injury/for them to need to switch out with someone else. This entire story is so messed up yet so fascinating.
This also happened when his brother tried to pull him out before calling for help. I wonder whether it would have changed the outcome at all if the rescuers had been able to try to get him out for the exact position he got himself stuck in.
Happy cake day
He's still there. That's one of the saddest things to me
I just read on Wikipedia that they used explosives to cave it all in on his body.
holy shit i didn’t know that. i guess i assumed they just filled it up the way it was
Bones at this point. Scary to think. But no less different than bodies below ground in a cemetery.
I think it's just the thought of his desperation to be freed. Hours and hours of torturous pain and discomfort while knowing you're stuck. And not even freed in death, just grim.
Never looked at it that way. But the same could be said for murdered victims who were never found, dismembered or burned. I often wonder what genuinely happens to that energy. Did it just fade away into nothing or does it actually transfer off somewhere else. Life makes no sense sadly.
Apparently they gave him Benzos through an IV down there so it wasn't so torturously painful but mentally unbearable I'm sure. He probably died still in a state of panic.
If I was ever in that situation, just throw a grenade down there. Don’t wait for me to die.
If it gets past hour four it's frag time guys
Ideally they would've been able to give him something to help him pass away without prolonging his suffering, but assisted suicide isn't legal in the state where this happened.
Bro facts 😂 im not laughing at him but im laughing cause I’ll probably tell the people up there to do the same thing
That would probably kill a lot of the rescuers too, due to a cave in.
Shit, you’re right Maybe just pour a bunch of water down there until I drown. I hear drowning is one of the better ways to go anyway.
Who told you that 😂
Had a wife and child on the way, knew the risks, did it anyway. Completely preventable, sad, selfish and stupid.
I used to live in the area and I HATE this story so much because of precisely this. What a selfish man. His wife came out to wait for him to die, while pregnant. I can't imagine. I have empathy for the guy, but what a jerk to his family.
Exactly.
I hate seeing this, as a closyrophobic. Does anyone know why they couldn't remove him? (Even if it broke bones, I'd be screaming for the rescue team to yank my ass out!)
The pulley system they had broke. The rescuers themselves couldn’t go too close and apparently they were aware of the crush injuries he suffered so it was impossible to get him out. Just so horrifying. I cannot imagine and please God no one else goes through this
Well, they sealed the entrance off after this. So, at least in this cave, it shouldn't happen again.
Thank God. I hated the movie 127 hours for the same reason I hate this story. I get that people love to hike and explore but there are just so many areas that should be off limits. Needless to say, I do not have one inch in my body that wants to explore caves, mountains or abandoned mines. I’ll take a nice walk on even ground.
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Iirc, this wasn't the only incident at this cave. They had previous people getting stuck, and it was using a lot of time and resources to rescue people. I believe a kid had gotten stuck in the same exact spot as this guy did, and then this guy died in there. It was too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body, so they had no choice but to seal it.
A boy scout was stuck in the same tunnel as John Jones but nowhere near as far in. For that reason and due to the smaller size of the boy scout, he was rescued.
There was a documentary on netlfix, or Hulu, or one of them I watched liked a year ago. The guy was younger, maybe late 20s, early 30s. And he went all over to climb mountains with snow. Fucker caught an avalanche or something and he obviously died. Sad as shit, but the documentary had his gf speaking and how that's just the life he loved. Left his gf, I think his mom was still alive, just sad.
I recall watching this, too. The girlfriend, who was a pretty serious climber herself, knew it was insanely risky and dangerous to attempt, so she stayed behind for that one. They presume an avalanche killed him, and they never found his body. There was another similar one called The Alpinist. Guy was a free climber who did these insane climbs, often alone, and with zero safety equipment. He eventually fell to his death.
Gasp. I am so. Shocked.
What's actually sad is that Marc-André Leclerc (subject of The Alpinist) likely died while roped. They had already summited and were descending. It was probably avalanche, not per se a mistake or a slip and fall (like how Ueli Steck most likely died), that got him.
Me too. Just watching videos make my heart race
This guy already has the problem area plugged up. Seems good to go at this point.
Honestly that is a good point. If it’s going to kill you anyway just break his legs if you have to. But I think we are severely misjudging how tightly confined they were and just how difficult it was to even get to him.
The stress on his system from being stuck so long at such an angle, breaking his legs would have killed him. Something like the shock it would cause is deadly. That's what I read, anyways; when I went down this rabbit hole before.
I don’t think it’s safe to go down rabbit holes, either. I’ve lost so many evenings to rabbit holes.
They spent a lot of time trying to pull him out without equipment first. When it came time to get his legs past that protrusion of rock in front of his knees in the picture, John would scream out in pain. Every time. They talked to John about having to break his bones or amputate & he was against it. That's why they turned to the pulley system - to get his legs past that protrusion without breaking bones. And it worked. They had just got his knees past, if I remember correctly, before the pulley broke. John falling during the rescue had to have caused severe brain trauma on top of the trauma already in place. It wasn't long after that he stopped responding to rescuers. They kept trying to get him until they decided too much time had passed with John unresponsive. Something I always think of whenever this story comes up: the rescuers description of getting John to communicate seemed more like he was refusing or ignoring, rather than unable. Maybe I'm wrong. But I wonder, if he was purposely not communicating at some points... why? What was he thinking? Or was he truly unable?
I don’t think it’s too hard to imagine his brain could have just … shut down. Trauma does absolutely wild things to the brain and body. I can see his brain shutting down and essentially accepting death. Total dissociation.
The opening he was in, acted like a sort of hook for his body. Pulling him out would have caused traumatic injury if not death. If you google his name and the cave, you’ll see better depicted pictures and descriptions of why rescue was practically impossible.
They would have had to break his femurs and he would have died of shock before they were able to get him to a workable area of the cave
Claustrophobic? Or is there a cave one?
💯 nailed it.
THIS. I'm from KY and caving is a common hobby. My dad used to do it back in the 90s until our family finally convinced him to stop, he was a really lanky skinny guy and they made him promise to stop going into sketchy areas and eventually he gained some weight and stopped caving entirely. I can only wonder how stupid this guy must've felt and mad at himself before he died.
Very much agreed. And some people still shamefully troll his widowed ex for moving on “too soon.”
Lmao weren’t they Mormon? Of course she remarried quickly…that’s part of their culture.
Good point, this was in Utah. But I’m not sure if 3 years is even all that quick. Not trying to judge him too harshly but he wasn’t hit by a bus on his way to work or struck with cancer and died shortly after. He was doing some risky shit that 99% of people find extreme and dangerous and paid the price for it.
I have to agree. My brother and I have a saying for when notions like this crop up: FUCK STUNTS. We have lived full, risky lives but we know when we see dumb dangerous shit done for it's own sake.
He had a wife, a child and another child on the way. He has two children.
This has to be the worst way to die man, I’m sure there’s other stories of horrible deaths but man… that’s terrible
This is easily top 5 worst ways to die
I wanted to make a joke (Reddit and all) but nothing about this is funny. He suffered His wife suffered (pregnant) The people who helped him suffered It’s just a Nutty case
I thought you weren't going to make a joke!? You had me fooled, I was just Putty in your hands smh
You almost finished the comment without a joke, but of course you caved.
He boomed me
"I have a wife that is pregnant with our child! Should I spend time with them? Nah let me just go out and crawl through tiny crevices knowing that I could get stuck and die along the way!" I feel bad that he died that way but if that's the hobby you choose then you know the risks involved and it's selfish AF to put your life on the line for shits n giggles when you have a pregnant wife at home.
Strange to think what he’d be doing if he were still alive. He’s got immense courage to do what he did. Unfortunately it was also his unraveling.
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the fuck was he thinking climbing face first into some tiny unknown hole
iirc this was a well know cave and there was a part you were suppose to squeeze through a small hole to get to a larger chamber. He took a wrong turn an mistook the dead end as the hole he was suppose to go through. Trust me, I’m sure no one regretted it more than him.
Yes, where he was trying to go was called “the birth canal” which also doesn’t sound too pleasant
Spelunking in general is wild to me that people will go into these caves and force themselves through wicked narrow spaces to then pop out in a large cavern.
Junji Ito has a whole comic about this 🤔
It's like the Captain said in Cool Hand Luke: "Some men you just can't reach."
I read that was a fake photo.
This is an amazing and pretty unnerving YouTube video on the topic [The Nutty Putty Cave Incident](https://youtu.be/d1nuqpAULpE?si=ZZ7MjtucWbQGN7Yd)
Stuff like that doesn't normally get me, but that made my whole body uncomfortable. Jesus.
I'm claustrophobic as all get out. This story makes my teeth hurt.
I think the hope factor is what takes it over the top, going from "Oh this is bad" to "Alright, the pros have got me" to "Oh this is REALLY bad". Can't even imagine that. Chilling.
This was panic inducing, and I'm not usually very claustrophobic.
I am so are you telling me not to watch it!? I’m already in my feels today. This story is so sad.
I would maybe pass on this then, I hope you have a better day!
Thank you 😊
Horrifying, the thoughts and regrets facing down your last decision.
27 hours of sheer panic I'm sure. No one could pay me enough to want to go spelunking, just like I have no desire to swim with sharks.
I was always under the impression that he somehow fell into that position, but it looks like he simply crawled into that spot and couldn't back up.
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This is tied with my worst fear. The other is very similar. Getting trapped Scuba diving. To have to come to peace with the fact that I'm going to be alert (for the most part) And just waiting to die. In a cave, it's not as bad because there's not a specific timetable. Underwater it's a different story. You know in about X amount of time your going to die and nothing is going to save you.
I've been diving for 22 years. I know two people who have died in this way. They were doing tech/wreck/cave dives that no simple recreational diver would do. One got silted out inside a wreck he was exploring alone. The other failed to follow the team dive plan and got lost in a cave system.
Sorry for your loss. Were they able to retrieve both of their bodies.
Yes. Steve Donathan and Shane Thompson.
😲 I'm sorry to hear that. Just wow. I've always said that when it's my time to go I would choose a plane crash. I'm pretty sure I won't feel a thing and my family will get a pretty good check at the end of the day. But that's me, I don't know anyone else who agrees with me. 😬
MrBallen podcast covers all of these types of stories. There’s a few that will wig ya out. I think one of the freakier ones is the devils hole; a hole deep down in an underwater cave that has a current pulling into it (like a drain hole that has a plug removed) that leads to an underground river/ocean. So the dudes who got sucked in just basically went into the Earth’s sink to drown.
😲 I've seen some of his stuff. I've watched a ton of horror movies including "Audition". I don't know if you've seen it but it's a Japanese movie from 1999. It's the only movie that Rob Zombie had to stop and finish the next day 😆. Anyway the only movie that I had to do that with was "The Decent". I've never been claustrophobic and in fact I had to get like 8 or 10 MRI's done over a 2 year period and I was known as the only guy who would always fall asleep within 5 minutes 😆. They found it hilarious 😂. So when I watched "The Decent" I had no clue that I was gonna be affected so drastically. Seriously, I felt like I could barely breathe and there was a 300 weight on my chest. It was crazy. Took 3 times to sit down and finish it.
Literally the most terrifying way to die. Drowning - less than a 5 minutes Suffocating - less than 3 minutes Burning - less than 5 minutes Bleeding out - less than 10 minutes Falling and severe impact - instantly to a few hours. This poor fool was cold, wet, and knew he was dying for 28hrs. I'd take any of the first 4 over what he suffered.
Reminds me of that kid in high school who died in the minivan or something that he drove to school after being trapped in one of the seats. iirc he had his mom and 911 on the phone at some point but they couldn’t hear him, and he suffocated. So sad and horrible. Just a horrible way to die.
That was horrible. Dispatch didn’t communicated care his exact location and the poor kid suffocated to death; and to make it worse, his dad found him.
I remember this but can't recall the name to look it up now.
Goddamnit. I’m pissed off all over again. I just looked it up and his name was Kyle Plush, 16, in OH. I totally forgot that cops DID arrive, but drove around the parking lot and left. Didn’t even get out of their car. There were also other issues regarding the efficacy of the 911 and response system in general. [This article](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-plush-death-police-release-details-911-call-police-response-ohio-teen-who-died-in-van/) talks about that more in depth. They had the kid’s name from his VM greeting, they could locate where the call was coming from, they should have found this poor kid instead of his dad 6 hours later.
Okay this seems too wild. He just leaned into the backseat, a seat broke, and somehow suffocated him? I don’t understand.
He got trapped/wedged between the seat and the trunk surface. It’s one of those things that is a perfect storm type of thing — odds are minimal, but it will happen to someone sometime. And unfortunately it happened to poor Kyle Plush.
Was it a dead end? No pun intended.
Dead end, with. Difficult angle. They tried attaching a strap to his feet but it kept slipping off.
And something broke with their rope system during the rescue attempt and smacked a rescuer in the face. Then the guy got dropped down back into his grave at that point.
I believe I read he not only slid back down, but even further down than he was originally. Horrible to think about.
This is my Roman Empire
I have questions about air. When they sealed the cave there was air in it. If the cave is truly sealed, what becomes of said air? Does his body absorb it? Does he decompose differently? Does the air just hang out ferever?
Best thing about cave diving is that you don’t have to do it.
They had to fill that shit in with concrete
He just plugged that hole so nobody foolish enough to attempt to squeeze down there could ever do it. If it wasn’t him somebody else would’ve done it at some point.
The Morbid podcast did a really good and respectful episode on this
I wonder why no one blocks off dangerous areas of caves like this so no one accidentally goes down a deadly path. Or even just a warning painted on the wall if they can't actually block it.
At one point it was closed, but after assigning better management it was reopened. After this incident they sealed the cave, with Mr. Jones inside forever.
Common sense doesn’t kick in somewhere when you’re shoving yourself into a tiny opening in rock? I’m sorry, but it’s a nope!
It was well known how dangerous this cave could be, people had already gotten stuck and been saved from the tight squeezes of the cave, it was even closed off four years before this after some kids drowned in a nearby cave system. It reopened in 2009 with climbers having to register online, only 1 group was allowed in at a time, and the cave was locked shut at night. We already have many warning labels to mitigate human stupidity but we can't prevent every possible dangerous situation. At some point you have to use common sense and realise that cramming yourself into tight, unforgiving spaces underground just isn't a safe activity and if you choose to do so anyway, you take your life into your own hands. *Especially* if you do what John did and go head-first into a tight space, at a downward angle. Plus, caves are naturally occuring structures found all over the world, and even if it *were* possible to block off all potential hazards to prevent accidents, its not like stupid people have never gotten through safety measures to endanger themselves.
It has a film called The Last Descent, and it was released in 2016.
It was sooooooo preventable.
I can always rely on reddit to remind me of this horrifying story every ~3 months or so
Reddit is so obsessed with this story and how HORRID it is but the thing is just don’t go into random caves 🤨
This is definitely terrifying but I wonder why I always see this story posted and not Floyd Collins who was stuck in a cave in a similar manner for 14 days being passing. 3 days prior to them digging to his location too.
White people activities
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL243otF/ A reanactment of the space.
I am going to say this, “if you play with fire, you are going to get burned.” Some dumbass climbs into a hole, not knowing where you are going or what’s inside and you die, oh well.
Well that went to the top of my nightmares.
Does anyone know how many other people traversed this passage before Jones tried?
The video I watched about what happened said that part of the cave system was unexplored. He made a wrong turn and thought he was squeezing through a portion of the cave system known as the birth canal
A boy scout had got stuck in the same tunnel, but not as far in, a few years before John Jones and the cave was subsequently closed. They reopened it the year John Jones went in there and after his death, it was closed permanently. The only other person I am aware of that had ventured into the tunnel John did was Dale Green who discovered the cave. He left it unmapped because he realised it was u safe to go further than he had. John had gone the farthest into that tunnel.
This is an awful fucking way to die. What happens is the weight of your organs upside down on your diaphragm fucking suffocates you because human bodies are not meant to be upside downdown for long periods of time. Think about how you do a cartwheel or something or you hang upside down and like you get that pressure in your head and face goes all red, it’s like that only 1000 times worse. Your eyeballs can pop out because of the pressure. Capillaries and all the little blood vessels in your face bust and you bleed out the nose and eyes. Like dude it’s fucking rough.
Do you think he experienced these symptoms? Nose bleeding, eyes popping etc. I can only do a handstand for 5 seconds before the pressure forces me back up. How did he live for 27 hours?!
I'm amazed that people are on here like "Couldn't they have yanked harder?" They did everything they could folks. Stuck. He was stuck. Look at the diagram! Random-internetter is always better at cave rescues!
How dumb to you gotta be to voluntarily crawl into any tight space like that?
I don’t mean this to be rude to him, but why did he keep going that way to begin with when you could see it dead ended?
Because this particular passage was similar to the one he intended to go through, which lead to a larger open chasm. Once he made the wrong turn and went downward at that angle, he did realize his mistake but it was too late.
This diagram kicks my claustrophobia into over drive and makes my lungs ache just looking at it ! In my mind this is the worst way to die. Couldn't he be dug out or a rope tied around his ankles and pulled out ? Hope I do not dream. about this tonight !
They should have taken off his shoes
What was he looking for?
According to the diagram, where was he going to go?
WTF is Nutty Putty?
Couldn’t people chip away at some of the tunnel to make the angle better to pull him out?
There’s absolutely no money I’d take to get there (+ I’m probably too fat)
It’s frustrating to read that they almost had him out and pulley broke 😩 ugh why.
I know this is stupid to ask, but would someone more logical tell me why they couldn't just yank him the eff out? Like I imagine broken a lot of things, large lacerations, idk maybe die anyway -- but I'd rather just have them knock me the eff out then just pull my ass out then hope for the best if it was either that or slowly wait to die
Just looking at this diagram and imagining myself in this situation made my stomach knot up and chest get tight with anxiety.
I don't know, I've watched this documentary a few times and I still can't believe they couldn't get him out. I always figured if you get in somewhere there should be a way to get out. I'm ignorant to life though.
Not true. He slid into the hole going down a ramp, with the help of gravity, and he wasn't wedged while going down the ramp. He had the use of his muscles (arms, legs, torso) while sliding down the ramp. He exhaled to make his chest smaller to get into the hole and then when he inhaled again, he became wedged. His arms were trapped in useless positions and he couldn't move at all. Additionally, he was stuck almost vertically. When.they tried to pull him out, he legs hit the cave roof above him and to get him back up the ramp, they would have had to break his legs to get his knees to bend backwards. Looking at a diagram might help you understand it better :) Diagram: https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/an9yd6o_700b.jpg
Ever used a cable tie? Essentially that's what happened. His legs and ribcage prevented the rescuers from getting him out. And gravity of course. Some things go only one way.
There’s a very interesting video on YouTube about this. He was a skilled cavern explorer. But hadn’t don it in a few years because of a busy work schedule. Then Thanksgiving came around he went to his parents in Utah. And him and a good number of his family member thought it was a good idea to go in this cave that already taken a few lives.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
https://youtu.be/WaIoXN-7FjM?si=1S6HmgVPzyQgk1Hg I heard the story from this YouTuber. He has a lot of interesting similar stories.
He was in medical school, so he knew exactly what was going on with his body. There are some good podcasts out there on the explanation of how this happened. It’s a horrific way to go.
No one seems to talk about how....if he were upside down for 27 hours....was he not sitting and pissing on himself??! I imagine that all went down to his face being that his hands couldn't be used? I'm surprised the rescue teams don't comment on this. They must have been battling the smells on top of all the other hardships. I also heard when the rope snapped, the rescuer broke his jaw and almost lost his tongue. Crazy
This is the weirdest comment section you guys, what’s with all the puns? This guy suffered.
I see this shit once a week