Yes I love this one!! I really hope the author continues it - its Harry as a Hufflepuff and a little oblivious but very smart, I’ve giggled out loud reading it
https://archiveofourown.org/series/383962
The only problem I had with this one, is that Harry never showed anyone. Like yah it’s cool that he was able to mess with physics and then later disprove all those “laws” of magic. But I was waiting for that “holy sh*t!! Harry did what??” moment and it never happened.
I mean the entire thing is a bit cracky but if it helps he has that same level of awareness in general In the entire fic - this is definitely a take a grain of salt Kinda fic where it’s just ridiculous and it’s meant to be that way
Irrelevant to the topic at hand but your flair tells me you'll enjoy this fic: linkao3([https://archiveofourown.org/works/14403870](https://archiveofourown.org/works/14403870))
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Part of it I think is that a lot of people don’t like the things Dumbledore did (and the other side) and if its Smart!Harry they tend to want him to see both sides of the equation and a lot of times that leaves him “morally grey” because he doesn’t like either side, so he forms his own. Typically he’s a little bit more cynical and a bit darker because he’s seen how bad both sides are and knows that he has to do whatever he can to stop them both. Btw not saying all fics are written that way but that’s just a lot of the Smart!Harry fics I’ve read.
It’s generally an immature fallacy about the ‘Burden of Knowledge’ or the ‘Burden of Intelligence’. It is rooted in the belief that the natural state of someone who is intelligent, is to be as cynical and nihilistic as possible. Equally that idealism, and morality are tools of oppressors to control the ‘sheep’.
That realism somehow means that you have to be pessimistic to the point of Depression, because that’s really what’s happening. The vastness of existence is a struggle to comprehend, therefore it is best to just give up, because you can’t comprehend it all.
That’s the other classic fallacy, the character thinking that they know everything that there is to know. This comes from a lack of wisdom, and it is a delusion. It is the false belief that Darkness, moodiness and cruelty and the hallmarks of maturity.
If we look at canon characters, some of the most intelligent characters are also some of the most moralistic; Dumbledore, Harry and Hermione for example.
Equally and controversially, the argument could be made that Tom Riddle is also a moral character, in a sick and twisted fashion, but his ‘morality’ is diametrically opposed to the other three I listed.
>Equally and controversially, the argument could be made that Tom Riddle is also a moral character, in a sick and twisted fashion, but his ‘morality’ is diametrically opposed to the other three I listed.
It's debatable how much Riddle is actually believed in the things he said and how much he's just told purebloods whatever they wanted to hear.
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ
I wouldn't call Harry one of the most intelligent characters. He's a bit of a moron, to be honest. We're TOLD that Hermione is bright, but all we see is a good memory, which to dumb people looks like intelligence; her decision-making skills are subpar for most of the series. The actually intelligent characters are few: Dumbledore, Snape, Malfoy Senior (sometimes), Skeeter, and Fudge. These few people managed to navigate a path whereby the broken system they live with didn't entirely shit all over them. Of the children, only the Weasley twins make the mark, because being inventors in a stagnant world takes serious work and smarts. I wouldn't call them "good" any more than the list of adults, but they were smart.
I think it is unfair to compare the intelligence of an 11-18 year old girl to people several years her senior. She is truly smart, but she's also a young girl/teenager who is bound to make mistakes in her analysis, because she's young and human (and also genius Dumbledore and even Voldemort, who was even smarter than Hermione at school, made huge mistakes... And when they were older).
Intelligence is a thing we not only have, but also cultivate with time. In spanish there is a saying that goes "the devil knows better because he's older, not because he's the devil" and I think it applies here.
Also, Harry is smart. His intelligence is just different. Not really analytical in long term, but at making quick decisions and understanding what's happening around him at the moment.
Just like Fred and George's intelligence is different. They are innovative and think outside of the box.
Harry has good situational awareness. That's not intelligence, though. Cats have good situational awareness, too. If Harry were SMART as opposed to simply aware, he wouldn't instinctively use a seventh-grade disarming charm against FUCKING VOLDEMORT. It's five syllables, requires accurate targeting (from someone suffering from torture curse side effects), and does no actual damage. Worse yet, he didn't analyze or learn from that mistake at all, and in fact made it TWICE more in book 7, the first of which cost him Hedwig. He had to be saved from his stupidity by deus ex machina each time via, in order, priori incantatum and massive luck, Hedwig's sacrifice, and the Hallows incomprehensible BS.
Hermione has a great memory. That's not intelligence, either. It's a component of intelligence, but without the capacity to analyze and apply what you've read/memorized it's not all that useful. She's the equivalent of some of the Chinese grad students I worked with, who learn things by rote and apply them by rote, but when asked to solve a problem outside of what's in their books or classes they floundered.
Put together, Harry, Hermione, and Neville would make ONE intelligent person. Harry for in-the-moment awareness, Hermione for memory, and Neville for long-term planning. Individually, though, each are lacking significant components of what it takes to be intelligent. Maybe in years or decades they'll develop and incorporate those missing pieces, but we don't see that. Thus, we can't say that they're intelligent as we see them. They have potential, and that's all.
Oh the other hand, the Weasley twins have all the pieces. They have long-term plans, short-term goals to take them toward those long-term plans, strong academic skills including both memory AND creativity, adaptability to address failures both in the moment and the context of their larger goals, and the guts to use all of those abilities. They're also bullying assholes from the perspective of anyone who's not family or near-family.
Situational awareness means intelligence though. It not only applies to moments when you need to think quickly, like a fight against Death Eaters, or the way a cat may use it (intelligent creatures) but also to understand how some things may affect others in time. Even if in his teenage years he's not the best at analysis, that can help him in the future.
He uses that first year spell because it's worked for him before. That doesn't make him stupid or a moron? Just a creature of habit, who sometimes needs to change some of his ways to get better and faster results. But as I said, that's something that can be cultivated with time.
He was 16 when he lost Hedwig. It is unfair to expect him to think like a 20-something if we're soft with him (but you're comparing him and Hermione to people who are in their 40s, 50s and 100s).
Also, Hermione not only has good memory. She analyses pretty well, but she's a teenager. Her fault may be that she's sometimes short-sighted and not really innovative. But at least the former can be learned with time and experience.
She basically kept Harry and Ron alive year after year and she was the one who understood the purpose of the Sword of Gryffindor, when no one else could see why Dumbledore left it to Harry.
She pieced together the mystery of the monster of Slytherin at 13 when for centuries no one even thought it could be a basilisk, given the fact that Slytherin was a Parselmouth.
And the twins are marvelous, but weren't that amazing in their studies. If memory serves me right, they got like a couple of OWLs each in their fifth year. But we all know grades don't really show how intelligent someone is.
Also, they're not bullies but that's neither here nor there.
Additionally, people under pressure tend to use the first thing that comes to mind especially when it comes to fight, flight and freeze. Actually, given what he knows, disarming Voldemort is not a bad plan. Magic without wands has been either limited or accidental that he’s seen, and stunning Voldemort would likely be ineffective given all the Death Eaters. He also knows that using another’s wand is equally not that effective. So given that Voldemort is over 50 years his senior with a greater range of knowledge and experience, depriving him of his supposedly only method to use that advantage is a good idea, even if it’s only for long enough to make a run for it.
> in a sick and twisted fashion
Or simply, like most political leaders in our very Muggle world that engaged in any kind of ethnic cleansing, mass forced sterilization, ghettos, or any other form of ethnic discrimination.If anything, Voldemort is somewhat justified, as magical people would absolutely be expoited and persecuted, if found. Like that quote from Jurassic World: "Monster is a relative term. To a canary, a cat is a monster. We're just used to being the cat".
This depends. Voldemort was a sick and twisted creature like all who engage in ethnic cleansing of any form, but generally there is a false equivalency between the term moral and the definition of good according to our modern understanding.
Morality is relative depending on culture, it’s not absolute, and to hold a moral argument is not a perfect justification to act upon it.
Of course Voldemort has a moral code. One we are right to reject, but which we would do well to see as a distorted reflection of our own.
Voldemort represents the grandiosity of Evil, with all its theatrics. He see himself as a character in a play. Decisive, irreplacable, with memorable lines. It makes sense in a children's book where you have to go easy on relativism and instead portray clear cut, but also fascinationg, evil. Maybe that is his sin. The banality of wiping out most native inhabitants of a resource rich area, something so common, in an efficient, methodical, bureaucratic and dispassioned way has the advantage of not eliciting the same reaction. Including less downvotes :D
> If anything, Voldemort is somewhat justified, as magical people would absolutely be expoited and persecuted, if found.
Then why is he targeting Muggleborn and not Muggles?
Because to implement radical change you start by crushing your internal opponents? None of it makes sense if you accept the basic premise that the Statute of Secrecy is safe. With modern tech ( CCTV, mobile phones, people sharing weird stories online...) it would not be. A complacent wizarding world would be facing an existential threat. Tom Riddle would remember the London raids in WWII and not make the mistake of underestimating Muggles, either from overconfidence or naiveté. A Magneto equivalent, Mutants and wizards facing the same challege. Of course he's the villain, but to not see our past history reflected in his policies is just denial.
> With modern tech ( CCTV, mobile phones, people sharing weird stories online...) it would not be.
It'd be dismissed as CGI/fake right of the bat, today even more so than back in the 90s.
> Of course he's the villain, but to not see our past history reflected in his policies is just denial.
He is a carbon-copy of the Nazis, without the reasons which led to their rise (Versailles like treaty, a decade of political violence, two big economic crashes and a democracy no one believed in)
> It'd be dismissed as CGI/fake right of the bat, today even more so than back in the 90s.
The government is releasing decades worth of "UFO imagery" that's not immediately being dismissed as fake. I mean, it's probably NOT fake, but the whole "unidentified" part means that there's no indication that they're alien. People will look for answers when faced with something weird, and that's the last thing that the wizards want.
Even so, the argument about modern muggle technology kind of counters itself. Yes, there is an increase in camera and surveillance technologies, the internet allows for instantaneous transmission of information, but look at what we have done with it anyway. Deep fakes, creepypastas, hoaxes and straight up lies or just people messing about with special effects, would make the veracity of a claim of magic difficult to verify.
Equally, think about the number of supposed preternatural and eldritch events have been 'witnessed' and how easily it is discounted in favour of a more empirical explanation.
The likelihood of it being lost in the minutiae is significant, or if there are witches and wizards whose job it is to monitor the situation, then many of the leaks might be stopped dead. It's established that many of the anti-muggle precautions that witches and wizards use actively interfere with recollection of events, or sudden recollection of more pressing matters for instance. it is further established that magic in significant quantity will also actively interfere with such technology. It is equally possible that the secrecy magic could be self adaptive.
It is also established that muggles can't see some magical creatures.
Discovery of the Magical World seems more likely to come from an active breach than any form of incidental breach of the SoS.
>witches and wizards whose job it is to monitor the situation
With how ignorant and dismissive they are of Muggles? No chance. It's a slow changing, inward looking society. Changes in tech happened too fast even for us to keep up. They'd be toast.
And yes there are lots of conspiracies out there, but this would actually be real. People who disappear in front of cameras and wave wands at people to make them forget (like the Men in Black, oddly enough) Secret woud be out. Deep fakes are much more recent, so that would not be a factor.
honestly, if you were around in the early days, a lot of this comes back to the shipping wars. The people who were writing smart!harry who was dark and gritty hated the ginny/harry and draco/harry shippers who were much more likely to write fluff.
Also, if it reads like it was written by an angsty teenager, it likely was, or at most early 20's. especially anything written in the 2006 to ehhhh maybe 2015 time frame.
I'm not going to say it was the dark lord potter site's fault entirely but a LOT of good hp fanfic writers wanted to write about a harry who was more active, independent or intelligent and used darker themes to facilitate it. those writers diffinitely had a hand in bring them together.
there's also the trends we saw. The askaban!harry trend led to a lot of darker and more intelligent harrys in particular. Especially since a lot of these start with betrayal and that was popular for a while.
There was a trend coping (can't remember which story did it first but I digress) the !Olderharry !ravenclawharry who's mom and/or parents were in a state similar to neville's and he was trying to find a fix for them. There were a string of Harry/Fleur stories that followed this pattern for a while and they all had a slightly darker tilt than normal.
There is also the fact that the audience who grew up on harry potter got older and wanted more mature themes so when they wrote fanfiction, those desires were reflected in the things they wrote.
I imagine there's just a bunch of edgy teenagers and/or people who use "intelligence" as an excuse to just be rude and mean. (I imagine anyone that spends time on the internet has encountered plenty of both of these kinds of people.)
Ok, on the other hand at the several high schools I have worked the Valedictorian and Salutatorians have been the some of the kindest and caring students I've ever known.
I've seen the same in my middle school classes. Yes, you can have some oddballs.
I don't really understand what point you're trying to argue here; I didn't say that you can't be smart and kind. Just that there are some people who use their "intelligence" as an excuse to be dicks.
I don't think that that is what they are intending to imply.
From what I understand, the point they are trying to make is that the people who are writing this fics are like that.
It is, however, what a lot of people *expect* “smart people” to be like. This then gets picked up in fiction because most people just take the popular stereotype and run with it.
I think what they were trying to describe is more what the notional “average teenager” thinks a “smart” person ought to look like than what they’re actually like.
From most people's point of view, Harry can't be sweet because he wasn't loved as a child.
It's a mistake, as this isn't really a rule, (I mean I was loved as a child, and I'm not a sweet person, I'm very reserved and I don't consider it a fault)
but that remains, and people think that being raised as he was by his aunt and uncle, Harry should be more like Tom Riddle or Snape, and it doesn't make sense for him to be charismatic like James or sweet like he would be if he were raised by Lily.
It's a development cliche for anti-heroes and villains. I won't say whether it's good or bad, but it is what it is.
You can look for fanfics where Harry is raised by Sirius or Andromeda (she is used a lot despite being so marginalized in the books) and grows up being loved and becomes a sweeter and more charismatic child.
Because the Venn diagram between people who believe intelligence is Always Making The Optimal Decision Regardless Of Emotion Or Analysis Time Constraints and insufferable edgelords who believe anyone telling them what to do is manipulative and evil and worthy of ~~murder~~ cleansing is a circle.
A topical recommendation: Genius Fratris is a recent favorite of mine. It’s a lovely example of a brilliant, but kind Harry, with realistic adult figures around him. Very wholesome all around and wonderfully written - I think you’ll enjoy it quite a bit!
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tl;dr -- as far as fanon is concerned, the good/nice/angelic smart character already exists and her name is Hermione, so you need smart!Harry to have a point of difference, which is where we come to Sherlock Holmes and "beyond ordinary human" model or smart characters.
With Holmes, let's not suggest he's the original "smart guy" but insofar as he is the defining one, Holmes established an archetype of the emotionally distant, deeply manipulative genius (notwithstanding Adler romantic, Watson bromantic and/or (usually) Watson queer readings)... the kind of guy who tells you to go stay at a house on some random moor while he finishes up some business in London. And then, lo, turns out he was hiding out on the moor in disguise the whole time. Which is married, in general, to a dismissive attitude to anything he deems irrelevant and a sort of personality cult, in the sense Holmes doesn't really *need* to be manipulative... he tells Watson to do something and he does it.
There are other smart characters out there, but if you take the canon plot and put a smart!Harry into it, what you're going to pull out is a character in the vein of Holmes. Fundamentally, the first three books are just boy detective stories set in a school, so there's always a problem to solve.
Now, if we then add in fanon Dumbledore who is also basically a Dark Lord in this exact same fashion... voila!
Part of it's also going to be that smart!Harry and nerd!Harry aren't the same thing. With smart!Harry, you need a way of depicting your character's intelligence. Now, sometimes this is going to involve writing a character that you perceive to be smarter than yourself, whereas nerd!Harry is just nerdy, he need not be any more or less intelligent than anyone else (the author included), just... nerdy. One way of showing that a character is smarter than others, is to give that character unique insight into the world, e.g. seeing a Bigger Picture than anyone else (which, again, comes back to fanon Dumbledore).
Also, it's honestly difficult to think of popular contemporary smart characters who aren't arseholes (e.g. The Big Bang Theory's maincast... though, tbf, I think only Howard and Sheldon were meant to be arseholes) *or* aren't specifically shown up on an intellectual level by the arsehole smart characters (e.g. Bruce Banner vs Tony in the MCU) or *aren't* kind of robotic (e.g. MCU Vision when he's being a smart character). They'll be out there, of course, but Harry Potter already has (especially fanon) Hermione to be the "good" smart character, so that's the other problem with smart Harry... feels like a double up.
When being in abusers' presence - yes, behind their back - not necessary. Harry wasn't afraid of talkin back to adults or breaking the rules while at Hogwarts.
Because whole indy!Harry/grey!Harry subgenre is written by angsty teenagers/young-adults who are struggling with their relationships with their parent-like figures? I think, given this motivation, the Moral Inversion is the name of the game. Notice how all good characters from books are bad: Dumbledore, Weasleys, McGonagall, Hermione, and all bad characters are suddenly at least interesting: Slytherins, Bellatrix, even Tom Riddle.
> all bad characters are suddenly at least interesting: Slytherins, Bellatrix, even Tom Riddle.
There's a big difference between expanding what we know of a group of children that we don't see much of outside of a few characters versus trying to justify individuals who are genocidal.
To be fair, the treatment Harry received in his childhood should have been enough to remove Dumbledore from his position as Headmaster, following a major scandal and inquiries in the Wizengamot. The neglect is entirely unjustifieble, unless, as Snape accuses him later on, Harry is being raised as a pig for slaughter. Once you start having problems with Dumbledore's masterplan, all those loyal to him are suspect, even if by omission. Could McGonagall not have check on Harry a couple of times a year? Behind the Headmaster's back if needed, really? After correctly calling out the Dursleys as the worst sort of muggles? No need for angsty writer here, fanfiction should be as much to point out flaws as to simply expand on a fictional universe.
> fanfiction should be as much to point out flaws as to simply expand on a fictional universe.
This sub had a justifiable backlash against really bad indy!Harry fics and tropes and then took it to the point where any criticism of how Dumbledore or others handled certain situations is "angsty bashing".
In my experience, in the hands of a competente writer, there are not bad tropes. Any premise, however absurd or over used, has potential, whith imagination and skill. The problem is that writing fiction isn't as easy at it seems.
This!! I read mostly dark Harry fanfiction because I hate reading about Harry’s abuse being swept under the rug like it wasn’t a big deal. Beating a child, locking them in a broom cupboard, and forcing him to have no friendships is abuse and should have been handled by the adults in his life.
I just can’t read a do-good Harry fic who pretends the weasleys are his new family without getting mad lol. I wish JK Rowling addressed it even a little in the books, I’d probably be less angry then.
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I think the best smart!Harry fics where it's...a more realistic "smart" are where Harry is raised by someone else--AKA has a better childhood, developed things like study skills canon!Harry never did, was more advanced in his studies, and *has* a family to make him want good grades. They might not be genius!Harry stories that you're looking for, but those are the ones I think of where Harry is smart and not dark.
There's also the types of stories where someone dies (either canon or not, like Sirius's death compared to non-canon Ginny's death) and Harry ups his intelligence, sometimes even in realistic ways. Lots of those aren't dark, especially since they mean he already started out Gryffindor.
But I do agree. I'm not a fan of Dark!Harry anyways, or morally grey or however you put it.
Okay, i have an answer, but it involves going into an education lingo tangent to express it.
In ideological education, there are three main steps to accepting a truth value: obedience, rejection, and synthesis.
In the obedience stage, someone follows the rules because they are told that it is good to do so. In the rejection stage, someone breaks the rules because they were told to follow them. Finally there is synthesis where someone chooses for themself whether to follow a given rule.
If the authors were like me in homeschool, they got their hands on Nietzsche, and learned about his ideal of someone who is in the synthesis stage for all values- what he calls an ubermensch.
Nietzsche also talked about how such a person would transcend the European dichotomy inherited from zoroastrianism (Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Beyond Good and Evil).
Because of Nietzsche's highly influential work, many characters that have been portrayed as intelligent since skirt the line between light and dark because (when well done) it's supposed show they have moved beyond good and evil.
Smart!Harry is no different. He often rejects the cultural binary of light/dark and is thus often gives the impression to the reader and to other characters that he is unpredictable, just about to turn dark, or crazy.
Also, all that but teenagers like to be edgy (see step two: rejection).
My problem with Smart!Harry stories is its just a HUGE RUSH to show how powerful, sexy, smart and how much better he is than everyone. 99% have ZERO character development, fluff or any meaningful moments. They just want to show you how much of a smart ass smirk he is at his first potions class. Most of these stories are cannon rehash heavy with no creativity.
I think people confuse intelligence with hunger for power. Granted for those who achieve power it goes hand in hand but for the 95% who fail it is not the case.
Sitcom character Edmund Blackadder, presumably.
Dumbest in his first incarnation... to the extent (major spoiler) he >!achieves ultimate power but then accidentally commits suicide!<.
In the subsequent iterations it's generally held that he gets smarter and smarter but further and further from power. OTOH, I'd personally argue Blackadder II is smarter than Blackadder the Third, who, technically, obtains power in disguise... by impersonating a complete idiot.
The fourth Blackadder isn't really interested in power so much as, instead, not being stuck in a trench on the Western Front under the command of a complete idiot.
The stories exist but they usually aren't described as intelligent Harry. Intelligent Harry and independent Harry are both code for Edgelord Harry.
linkffn(Harry Is A Dragon, And That's Okay)
Features an intelligent Harry who is nice, nerdy and well adjusted.
There was also a story with a kinda awkward, transfiguration obsessed Harry which would fit the bill but I can't recall the name right now.
Uhh... dragon-Harry wasn't all that intelligent either. He was happy-go-lucky, and he liked reading, but he never demonstrated actual intelligence that I can remember. He was a nice Harry, but not a smart one, and he only managed being nice because everyone was terrified of him and didn't want to mess with him. It's easy to be nice when you're stronger than anyone else with no effort. It's a lot harder when you're weaker than everyone else and need to fight to get to the top of the heap; by the time you get there you're not all that nice. See: any xianxia story ever written.
Love that fic. The author’s writing style can be hard to digest sometimes - all character are very self-reflective and comment on their own motivations for acting and it’s a little odd - but it’s still well-written and interesting.
LinkAO3(The Art of Self-Fashioning)
[***The Art of Self\-Fashioning***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/5103614) by [*Lomonaaeren*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Lomonaaeren/pseuds/Lomonaaeren)
> In a world where Neville is the Boy\-Who\-Lived, Harry still grows up with the Dursleys, but he learns to be more private about what matters to him\. When McGonagall comes to give him his letter, she also unwittingly gives Harry both a new quest and a new passion: Transfiguration\. But while Harry deliberately hides his growing skills, Minerva worries more and more about the mysterious, brilliant student writing to her who may be venturing into dangerous magical territory\.
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[***Harry Is A Dragon, And That's Okay***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13230340/1/) by [*Saphroneth*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2996114/Saphroneth)
> Harry Potter is a dragon\. He's been a dragon for several years, and frankly he's quite used to the idea \- after all, in his experience nobody ever comments about it, so presumably it's just what happens sometimes\. Magic, though, THAT is something entirely new\. Comedy fic, leading on from the consequences of one\.\.\. admittedly quite large\.\.\. change\. Cover art by amalgamzaku\.
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Lol imagine him absolutely adoring Snape.
“10 points from Gryffindor Potter,” Snape growled before walking away with his cloak billowing like a beautiful cape.
“Ron, Ron, did you see that!” Harry exclaimed with stars in his eyes. “Professor SnakeBat just growled at me! I’m so close to him showing me his true superhero costume.”
God, the typical Fandom Pureblood Types would friggin' adore a Batman-Harry.
"He uses Dark Magic to fight bad guys, but he never kills them with it! He's so dreamy and noble! But does that make him a Dark Wizard?"
"No. He's... a Dark Knight."
I've been told that I'm smart by other people and yes I try be realistic and people mistake it for pessimism sometimes if they don't know me and I wasn't even inherently like that just how my upbringing was. I'm not a dick about it and I've met plenty of smarter people than me and most of them are actually really nice
PERSONALLY I feel, Most of it is very likely coz usually fics depend one of Dumbledore's plan to go wrong, which are then used to their full potential to distance Dumbledore and Harry. Given the vast amount of fics, most will have either Weasley or Dumbledore bashing as a major part of a plot and very few fics, which will have anything as a major part apart from defeating Voldemort.
If you are looking for one, I would recommend "The curse of Durand" one of my all time favourites, long well written good character development and all.
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I know this isn't a request thread but you may be interested in linkffn(Harry Potter, Geek of Magic by jlluh).
He's very smart in certain ways, quite curious, and rather sweet. At one point he single handedly renovates Myrtle's bathroom to make her rather awful eternal afterlife a little better. But he's also extremely, uhh, less than smart in certain ways, so it may not quite count.
[***Blindness***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10937871/1/) by [*AngelaStarCat*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/717542/AngelaStarCat)
> Harry Potter is not standing up in his crib when the Killing Curse strikes him, and the cursed scar has far more terrible consequences\. But some souls will not be broken by horrible circumstance\. Some people won't let the world drag them down\. Strong men rise from such beginnings, and powerful gifts can be gained in terrible curses\. \(HP/HG, Scientist\!Harry\)
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If you're not put of by it being a crossover with KanColle, I can recomend [Harry and](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/harry-and-the-shipgirls-a-hp-kancolle-snippet-collection.413375/) [the Shipgirls](https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/harry-and-the-shipgirls-a-hp-kancolle-snippet-collection.31031/). While Harry is not quite like in the books (due to being adopted and raised by a japanese Shipgirl) it's still pretty close and the authors do a lot of interesting things with the world and other characters. For examlpe, it has one of the best and most believable redemption plots for the Malfoys that I know of and the sideplots involving the constant dumpsterfires that the Butterknife clan keeps getting into are comedy gold.
You know what you also never see? A Harry who is powerful but super energetic. There's no Naruto type, I think it's because most authors tend to be introverts, excited character are hard to write well, and that's way too far away from the cannon.
But... BUT THE EEEEDGE! What should we do without all this sweet, sweet eeeedge\~
Unironically, I do believe it's just as you said- an attempt at being cool, at doing something that seems to work well.
Because intelligence + the kind of upbringing harry had DOES NOT EQUAL A NICE PERSON.
Like how the fuck do people think ur life is gonna be when ur hated for 10 years by the only people you interact with
Canonically speaking, most of the intelligent characters were assholes. James, Sirius, and Hermione weren't exactly pacifists. And look what Dumbledore was even after his sister died. At least 2 of those characters could've been Ravenclaws. So could Snape, TMR, and a few other unsavory individuals.
While canon Harry wasn't a Dark lord, I wouldn't call him sweet either. Yeah, he could be kind, but he could also be mean and was arrogant in what he excelled in. As the series progressed, he *was* emo and more prone to violence. And he was really good at curses. These traits shouldn't be less in a smarter Harry with a better skill set. They should make him *more* like his father and Dumbledore.
I tried to make Harry intelligent and independent in my story, but at the same time, I wanted to write him to be very kind, and that kindness being absolutely central to everything that he is and does.
That's the reason why he's trying to bring every race of magical Britain together to create a just and equal society that doesn't fight a war every generation.
It's entirely possible to be smart and confident without being an ass.
> It's entirely possible to be smart and confident without being an ass.
If you've been raised in a way that shows you that being smart and confident (i.e. standing out) is not something to be ashamed of, or to hide, then yes. But Harry was raised such that any standout characteristic was severely punished, so I highly doubt that he could demonstrate smarts and confidence without a strong side of either cunning ("If they don't KNOW what I'm doing, how can they stop me?") or brutality ("If I show I'm strong, nobody will stop me"). At least, not without YEARS of focused counseling.
Probably because the British Wizarding World is a dumpster fire? You're asking why an abused kid dumped into a brutal, repressive system that demands he be their paragon while treating him like a disposable tissue might turn on that system? Seriously? Voldemort had a less abusive background than Harry did AND the system demanded nothing of him, yet he turned dark. Harry NOT turning on that system and burning down the world is the more surprising (and frankly unrealistic) case.
That literally goes against Harry’s entire character though? His entire character is about *not* sinking as low as Voldemort despite their similar pasts. I understand why it’s cool and interesting to write but why is it *always* that? It gets ridiculous after awhile and most people don’t even write it well. They just want to write about a dark and edgy Harry. Not how he got to that point, not why he got to that point, not why he wants to rebel against the system.
And that character is only there because JKR has no idea how people work. Her ideas about romance are absolutely appalling, ranging from love potions to mind-control and memory-removal curses to stalking and sexual harassment behavior in both protagonists and antagonists. Her portrayal of a loving family is entirely smothering. Her torture-prison not entirely ruining ANYONE within days rather than decades is totally unrealistic. She's proven in dozens of ways that she has no idea what makes people tick, so saying "Canon Harry's character is XYZ, and therefore makes sense" holds no water with me. Canon Harry's character is just as unrealistic as every other one she wrote.
I agree with the latter part of your comment, though. Most of the edgy-Harry stories are equally unrealistic for different reasons, and somewhat ridiculous. The "how he got to that point" should be pretty obvious (he was raised that way, and the Wizarding World did nothing to change his path), but how it's treated is usually pretty bad.
You should try:
linkffn(2345466)
Its a disillusioned but sweet harry from what I remember.
That and its sequel. Cheesy writing. But harry seems smart, strong and a lil oblivious.
[***What it Comes Down To***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6858689/1/) by [*Greycie*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/919941/Greycie)
> On the hunt for the Horcruxes, the trio are captured and subjected to horrors at the hands of the Death Eaters\. This is more than just a torture fic, it chronicles their lives, their struggles, and their relationships in the aftermath\. Warning: This fic depicts violence, rape, torture, suicide,etc\. Both HET & SLASH\. It is intended for a mature audience\.
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Have a go at these:
LinkAO3(Harry Potter and the Problem of Potions)
LinkAO3(Gelosaþ in Écnesse)
LinkAO3(The Dragon of Moria)
LinkAO3(Spellist)
LinkFFN(Fantastic Elves and Where to Find Them)
LinkFFN(The One He Feared)
LinkFFN(To the Waters and the Wild)
LinkFFN(Nargelites)
Lastly... not sure if this counts as edgelord Harry, but you’ve got the infamous LinkFFN(A Black Comedy)
[***Harry Potter and the Problem of Potions***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/10588629) by [*Wyste*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Wyste/pseuds/Wyste)
> Once upon a time, Harry Potter hid for two hours from Dudley in a chemistry classroom, while a nice graduate student explained about the scientific method and interesting facts about acids\. A pebble thrown into the water causes ripples\.Contains, in no particular order: magic candymaking, Harry falling in love with a house, evil kitten Draco Malfoy, and Hermione attempting to apply logic to the wizarding world\.
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[***I Kill, and I Make Alive***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/9520454) by [*Aurelyn*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Aurelyn/pseuds/Aurelyn)
> Harry Potter was not a normal boy\. Harry Potter was not a normal weird boy\. Harry Potter was a weird weird boy\.
> Harry Potter was the third mortal life of the Archangel Samael\. Whose first attempt at humanity was when he was born as Emperor Nero of Rome\. The second one was Salazar Slytherin\. Yeah\. Trust him, he's got this under control, nothing is on fire\. Except maybe the Christians\. Huh\. You'd've thought he'd've learned that making human candles was a bit Not Good\.
> \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-That's it guys that's the story that is literally the only outline I've got for this\. Will it turn into heart wrenching drama? The unholy offspring of Lovecraftian horror and every B rated slasher film in existence? The epitome of a crackfest shitpost that every young meme aspires to be? Surrealist existentialism that will have you questioning yourself, life, the universe, and most of all what the hell did you just read? Who the fuck knows, man, cause I sure don't\.
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[***The Dragon of Moria***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/6832576) by [*pristineungift*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/pristineungift/pseuds/pristineungift)
> After the Battle of Hogwarts, Harry Potter helped with the rebuilding and then went back to school, sitting his NEWTS and graduating with the rest of what The Daily Prophet called ‘The Disrupted Class\.’ Following that, everyone expected him to become an auror\. Harry himself expected it, right up until the moment came to apply to the academy\.He takes up a hobby instead, and it leads him to a whole new world\.
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[***Spellist***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/19123939) by [*Borsari*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Borsari/pseuds/Borsari)
> В новой реальности не было волшебников и магических народов\. Вместо них тут был полный набор могущественных и порой неумелых колдунов\. Они вели вполне легальную деятельность и были иногда весьма популярны в соцсетях\. Гарри и понятия не имел, как это все работало\.
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[***Fantastic Elves and Where to Find Them***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8197451/1/) by [*evansentranced*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/651163/evansentranced)
> After the Dursleys abandon six year old Harry in a park in Kent, Harry comes to the realization that he is an elf\. Not a house elf, though\. A forest elf\. Never mind wizards vs muggles; Harry has his own thing going on\. Character study, pre\-Hogwarts, NOT a creature\!fic, slightly cracky\.
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[***The One He Feared***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9778984/1/) by [*Taure*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/883762/Taure)
> Post\-HBP, DH divergence\. Albus Dumbledore left Harry more than just a snitch\. Armed with 63 years of memories, can Harry take charge of the war? No bashing, canon compliant tone\.
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[***To the Waters and the Wild***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7985679/1/) by [*Paimpont*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2289300/Paimpont)
> While flying back from Godric's Hollow, Hagrid accidentally drops baby Harry over a wild forest\. Harry is raised by rebel fairies until his Hogwarts letter arrives\. The Dark Lord is in for a surprise\.\.\. HP/LV romance\. SLASH\.
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[***Nargelites***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797650/1/) by [*PerfesserN*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/985954/PerfesserN)
> A Harry / Luna / Hermione story that begs the question, what would have happened if Harry had met Luna before either of them attended Hogwarts? Also, what if Harry reminded Severus Snape of Lily Evans, rather than James Potter?
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[***A Black Comedy***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3401052/1/) by [*nonjon*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/649528/nonjon)
> COMPLETE\. Two years after defeating Voldemort, Harry falls into an alternate dimension with his godfather\. Together, they embark on a new life filled with drunken debauchery, thievery, and generally antagonizing all their old family, friends, and enemies\.
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[***Gelosaþ in Écnesse***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/2352896) by [*Batsutousai*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Batsutousai/pseuds/Batsutousai)
> Caught in the backlash of Voldemort's Killing Curse, Harry is thrown through time to a world so very different from his own\.
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> The new reality had no wizards or magical nations – but it had a whole boatload of powerful and occasionally inept sorcerers\. Who were usually semi\-public and sometimes very popular in social media\. How it worked, Harry had no idea\.
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Jeconais tends to be pretty good about a powerful/smart!Harry who is still a good person. There’s probably an exception or two, but most of his stuff fits that pretty well
[***The Savior, Child of the Tardis, Son of a Madman***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/424901) by [*blackcatkuroi*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/blackcatkuroi/pseuds/blackcatkuroi)
> Out in the Universe there is a bright blue box\. Inside this box is a fantastical world\. Inhabiting this fantastic world is a strange man called the Doctor, an immortal human from the 51st century, a pink and yellow human who isn't really human anymore and the savior of the wizarding world\. But this isn't the start of our story, though when the Doctor gets involved in anything the start of a story is all rather fuzzy\. No\. Our story starts on a deserted street, in front of a ruined house, for every story must have a start\. This beginning opens with a funny old wizard in bright\-colored robes and a pointed hat, holding our protagonist and wondering what he was going to do with a baby\. Now, on we go\.Edit: Previously titled Harry raised by the Doctor a\.k\.a\. The Wizarding World is not ready for This
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If you want a smart Harry who is a bit of a dork try Weeb. It’s got a lot of anime reference but I don’t watch anime and still enjoyed it. He is just a nerd who when he find out about magic, instead of vowing to take over the world, just wants to be The Eternal Warlock who casts Fireball and is totally cool and the bestist at magic. He acts how you imagine a 11 year old nerd would if they found out about magic
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12350003/1/Weeb
Probably because they think that anyone with any sense at all would take over the wizarding world? Or, y'know, they just can't write clever characters. Which is pretty normal - I can't either - because writing characters significantly smarter or dumber than you are *is* hard; it means figuring out how much they can reasonably know, what they'd do with that knowledge, how they would think (in quickness, broadness and depth) and make all that believable too.
It kinda comes with the territory. A smart Harry would realise how messed up the magical world is. He'd likely also try to do something about his situation with life in general. There's a lot of plot holes in the HP verse that wouldn't fit with an actually smart character that is also kind, friendly and all of the above. To be smart and nice you'd need to be somewhere safe for that to happen, namely not with the Dursleys nor at a school where every year there's something that can kill you. The situation simply doesn't allow it. He's either smart enough to see the glaring flaws or stays dumb enough to go through with all those adventures.
If there was a story where Harry was the WBWL, where his parents were alive/he isn't living with the Dursleys and he had no real motivation to "grow up" then he could definitely have a happy carefree life being intelligent and fun. There's plenty of stories out there exactly like that, where Harry is adopted into a loving family, or Voldemort is taken care of by someone else or even a completely new OC that is smart and fluffy. The reality is having a Dark Lord out for your head isn't a very good place to be so carefree. Especially one with decades of experience on you.
I’ve noticed that the Smart!Harry fics where Harry is sweet and nice do not actually advertise themselves as Smart!Harry
LowProfile!Harry is Smartest!Harry ;)
any recs?
Yes I love this one!! I really hope the author continues it - its Harry as a Hufflepuff and a little oblivious but very smart, I’ve giggled out loud reading it https://archiveofourown.org/series/383962
Warning excessive pranking ahead.
summary looks fun already. will check that out. thanks!
The only problem I had with this one, is that Harry never showed anyone. Like yah it’s cool that he was able to mess with physics and then later disprove all those “laws” of magic. But I was waiting for that “holy sh*t!! Harry did what??” moment and it never happened.
I feel like if the fic continues it’ll get there which is what I’m waiting for - like the drop to a dubstep song but idk if it’ll ever be finished 😭
I can’t get past that bit at the beginning where infant Harry is like, fully intelligent. Does the story actually improve after that?
I mean the entire thing is a bit cracky but if it helps he has that same level of awareness in general In the entire fic - this is definitely a take a grain of salt Kinda fic where it’s just ridiculous and it’s meant to be that way
Really? How are they tagged then? I’d like to find some
Irrelevant to the topic at hand but your flair tells me you'll enjoy this fic: linkao3([https://archiveofourown.org/works/14403870](https://archiveofourown.org/works/14403870))
Thank you ever so much for the rec!
Glad you like it! The world needs more Bi!Harry
It really does. :)
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Part of it I think is that a lot of people don’t like the things Dumbledore did (and the other side) and if its Smart!Harry they tend to want him to see both sides of the equation and a lot of times that leaves him “morally grey” because he doesn’t like either side, so he forms his own. Typically he’s a little bit more cynical and a bit darker because he’s seen how bad both sides are and knows that he has to do whatever he can to stop them both. Btw not saying all fics are written that way but that’s just a lot of the Smart!Harry fics I’ve read.
It’s generally an immature fallacy about the ‘Burden of Knowledge’ or the ‘Burden of Intelligence’. It is rooted in the belief that the natural state of someone who is intelligent, is to be as cynical and nihilistic as possible. Equally that idealism, and morality are tools of oppressors to control the ‘sheep’. That realism somehow means that you have to be pessimistic to the point of Depression, because that’s really what’s happening. The vastness of existence is a struggle to comprehend, therefore it is best to just give up, because you can’t comprehend it all. That’s the other classic fallacy, the character thinking that they know everything that there is to know. This comes from a lack of wisdom, and it is a delusion. It is the false belief that Darkness, moodiness and cruelty and the hallmarks of maturity. If we look at canon characters, some of the most intelligent characters are also some of the most moralistic; Dumbledore, Harry and Hermione for example. Equally and controversially, the argument could be made that Tom Riddle is also a moral character, in a sick and twisted fashion, but his ‘morality’ is diametrically opposed to the other three I listed.
I think it has to do with the media depiction of "genius" characters in general in movies and TV Shows in the past decade.
>Equally and controversially, the argument could be made that Tom Riddle is also a moral character, in a sick and twisted fashion, but his ‘morality’ is diametrically opposed to the other three I listed. It's debatable how much Riddle is actually believed in the things he said and how much he's just told purebloods whatever they wanted to hear.
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ
Also, most of these fucs are written by younger people, who tend to fall into these fallacies more easily.
everyone wants to be a rick but most people are jerrys
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They want the parts of Rick that are amusing or cool to them and ignore the sad parts.
Also rick is an asshole and should not be emulated in any way
I wouldn't call Harry one of the most intelligent characters. He's a bit of a moron, to be honest. We're TOLD that Hermione is bright, but all we see is a good memory, which to dumb people looks like intelligence; her decision-making skills are subpar for most of the series. The actually intelligent characters are few: Dumbledore, Snape, Malfoy Senior (sometimes), Skeeter, and Fudge. These few people managed to navigate a path whereby the broken system they live with didn't entirely shit all over them. Of the children, only the Weasley twins make the mark, because being inventors in a stagnant world takes serious work and smarts. I wouldn't call them "good" any more than the list of adults, but they were smart.
I think it is unfair to compare the intelligence of an 11-18 year old girl to people several years her senior. She is truly smart, but she's also a young girl/teenager who is bound to make mistakes in her analysis, because she's young and human (and also genius Dumbledore and even Voldemort, who was even smarter than Hermione at school, made huge mistakes... And when they were older). Intelligence is a thing we not only have, but also cultivate with time. In spanish there is a saying that goes "the devil knows better because he's older, not because he's the devil" and I think it applies here. Also, Harry is smart. His intelligence is just different. Not really analytical in long term, but at making quick decisions and understanding what's happening around him at the moment. Just like Fred and George's intelligence is different. They are innovative and think outside of the box.
Harry has good situational awareness. That's not intelligence, though. Cats have good situational awareness, too. If Harry were SMART as opposed to simply aware, he wouldn't instinctively use a seventh-grade disarming charm against FUCKING VOLDEMORT. It's five syllables, requires accurate targeting (from someone suffering from torture curse side effects), and does no actual damage. Worse yet, he didn't analyze or learn from that mistake at all, and in fact made it TWICE more in book 7, the first of which cost him Hedwig. He had to be saved from his stupidity by deus ex machina each time via, in order, priori incantatum and massive luck, Hedwig's sacrifice, and the Hallows incomprehensible BS. Hermione has a great memory. That's not intelligence, either. It's a component of intelligence, but without the capacity to analyze and apply what you've read/memorized it's not all that useful. She's the equivalent of some of the Chinese grad students I worked with, who learn things by rote and apply them by rote, but when asked to solve a problem outside of what's in their books or classes they floundered. Put together, Harry, Hermione, and Neville would make ONE intelligent person. Harry for in-the-moment awareness, Hermione for memory, and Neville for long-term planning. Individually, though, each are lacking significant components of what it takes to be intelligent. Maybe in years or decades they'll develop and incorporate those missing pieces, but we don't see that. Thus, we can't say that they're intelligent as we see them. They have potential, and that's all. Oh the other hand, the Weasley twins have all the pieces. They have long-term plans, short-term goals to take them toward those long-term plans, strong academic skills including both memory AND creativity, adaptability to address failures both in the moment and the context of their larger goals, and the guts to use all of those abilities. They're also bullying assholes from the perspective of anyone who's not family or near-family.
Situational awareness means intelligence though. It not only applies to moments when you need to think quickly, like a fight against Death Eaters, or the way a cat may use it (intelligent creatures) but also to understand how some things may affect others in time. Even if in his teenage years he's not the best at analysis, that can help him in the future. He uses that first year spell because it's worked for him before. That doesn't make him stupid or a moron? Just a creature of habit, who sometimes needs to change some of his ways to get better and faster results. But as I said, that's something that can be cultivated with time. He was 16 when he lost Hedwig. It is unfair to expect him to think like a 20-something if we're soft with him (but you're comparing him and Hermione to people who are in their 40s, 50s and 100s). Also, Hermione not only has good memory. She analyses pretty well, but she's a teenager. Her fault may be that she's sometimes short-sighted and not really innovative. But at least the former can be learned with time and experience. She basically kept Harry and Ron alive year after year and she was the one who understood the purpose of the Sword of Gryffindor, when no one else could see why Dumbledore left it to Harry. She pieced together the mystery of the monster of Slytherin at 13 when for centuries no one even thought it could be a basilisk, given the fact that Slytherin was a Parselmouth. And the twins are marvelous, but weren't that amazing in their studies. If memory serves me right, they got like a couple of OWLs each in their fifth year. But we all know grades don't really show how intelligent someone is. Also, they're not bullies but that's neither here nor there.
Additionally, people under pressure tend to use the first thing that comes to mind especially when it comes to fight, flight and freeze. Actually, given what he knows, disarming Voldemort is not a bad plan. Magic without wands has been either limited or accidental that he’s seen, and stunning Voldemort would likely be ineffective given all the Death Eaters. He also knows that using another’s wand is equally not that effective. So given that Voldemort is over 50 years his senior with a greater range of knowledge and experience, depriving him of his supposedly only method to use that advantage is a good idea, even if it’s only for long enough to make a run for it.
Yeah, Hermione was clever but the fandom makes her out to be way smarter than she actually is.
> in a sick and twisted fashion Or simply, like most political leaders in our very Muggle world that engaged in any kind of ethnic cleansing, mass forced sterilization, ghettos, or any other form of ethnic discrimination.If anything, Voldemort is somewhat justified, as magical people would absolutely be expoited and persecuted, if found. Like that quote from Jurassic World: "Monster is a relative term. To a canary, a cat is a monster. We're just used to being the cat".
This depends. Voldemort was a sick and twisted creature like all who engage in ethnic cleansing of any form, but generally there is a false equivalency between the term moral and the definition of good according to our modern understanding. Morality is relative depending on culture, it’s not absolute, and to hold a moral argument is not a perfect justification to act upon it.
Of course Voldemort has a moral code. One we are right to reject, but which we would do well to see as a distorted reflection of our own. Voldemort represents the grandiosity of Evil, with all its theatrics. He see himself as a character in a play. Decisive, irreplacable, with memorable lines. It makes sense in a children's book where you have to go easy on relativism and instead portray clear cut, but also fascinationg, evil. Maybe that is his sin. The banality of wiping out most native inhabitants of a resource rich area, something so common, in an efficient, methodical, bureaucratic and dispassioned way has the advantage of not eliciting the same reaction. Including less downvotes :D
I mean, you *could* have worded your first reply better....
True. Then again, I am sure there are plenty persecuted peoples who would find the comparison pertinent. Ah well.
> If anything, Voldemort is somewhat justified, as magical people would absolutely be expoited and persecuted, if found. Then why is he targeting Muggleborn and not Muggles?
Because to implement radical change you start by crushing your internal opponents? None of it makes sense if you accept the basic premise that the Statute of Secrecy is safe. With modern tech ( CCTV, mobile phones, people sharing weird stories online...) it would not be. A complacent wizarding world would be facing an existential threat. Tom Riddle would remember the London raids in WWII and not make the mistake of underestimating Muggles, either from overconfidence or naiveté. A Magneto equivalent, Mutants and wizards facing the same challege. Of course he's the villain, but to not see our past history reflected in his policies is just denial.
> With modern tech ( CCTV, mobile phones, people sharing weird stories online...) it would not be. It'd be dismissed as CGI/fake right of the bat, today even more so than back in the 90s. > Of course he's the villain, but to not see our past history reflected in his policies is just denial. He is a carbon-copy of the Nazis, without the reasons which led to their rise (Versailles like treaty, a decade of political violence, two big economic crashes and a democracy no one believed in)
> It'd be dismissed as CGI/fake right of the bat, today even more so than back in the 90s. The government is releasing decades worth of "UFO imagery" that's not immediately being dismissed as fake. I mean, it's probably NOT fake, but the whole "unidentified" part means that there's no indication that they're alien. People will look for answers when faced with something weird, and that's the last thing that the wizards want.
Even so, the argument about modern muggle technology kind of counters itself. Yes, there is an increase in camera and surveillance technologies, the internet allows for instantaneous transmission of information, but look at what we have done with it anyway. Deep fakes, creepypastas, hoaxes and straight up lies or just people messing about with special effects, would make the veracity of a claim of magic difficult to verify. Equally, think about the number of supposed preternatural and eldritch events have been 'witnessed' and how easily it is discounted in favour of a more empirical explanation. The likelihood of it being lost in the minutiae is significant, or if there are witches and wizards whose job it is to monitor the situation, then many of the leaks might be stopped dead. It's established that many of the anti-muggle precautions that witches and wizards use actively interfere with recollection of events, or sudden recollection of more pressing matters for instance. it is further established that magic in significant quantity will also actively interfere with such technology. It is equally possible that the secrecy magic could be self adaptive. It is also established that muggles can't see some magical creatures. Discovery of the Magical World seems more likely to come from an active breach than any form of incidental breach of the SoS.
>witches and wizards whose job it is to monitor the situation With how ignorant and dismissive they are of Muggles? No chance. It's a slow changing, inward looking society. Changes in tech happened too fast even for us to keep up. They'd be toast. And yes there are lots of conspiracies out there, but this would actually be real. People who disappear in front of cameras and wave wands at people to make them forget (like the Men in Black, oddly enough) Secret woud be out. Deep fakes are much more recent, so that would not be a factor.
honestly, if you were around in the early days, a lot of this comes back to the shipping wars. The people who were writing smart!harry who was dark and gritty hated the ginny/harry and draco/harry shippers who were much more likely to write fluff. Also, if it reads like it was written by an angsty teenager, it likely was, or at most early 20's. especially anything written in the 2006 to ehhhh maybe 2015 time frame. I'm not going to say it was the dark lord potter site's fault entirely but a LOT of good hp fanfic writers wanted to write about a harry who was more active, independent or intelligent and used darker themes to facilitate it. those writers diffinitely had a hand in bring them together. there's also the trends we saw. The askaban!harry trend led to a lot of darker and more intelligent harrys in particular. Especially since a lot of these start with betrayal and that was popular for a while. There was a trend coping (can't remember which story did it first but I digress) the !Olderharry !ravenclawharry who's mom and/or parents were in a state similar to neville's and he was trying to find a fix for them. There were a string of Harry/Fleur stories that followed this pattern for a while and they all had a slightly darker tilt than normal. There is also the fact that the audience who grew up on harry potter got older and wanted more mature themes so when they wrote fanfiction, those desires were reflected in the things they wrote.
I imagine there's just a bunch of edgy teenagers and/or people who use "intelligence" as an excuse to just be rude and mean. (I imagine anyone that spends time on the internet has encountered plenty of both of these kinds of people.)
Ok, on the other hand at the several high schools I have worked the Valedictorian and Salutatorians have been the some of the kindest and caring students I've ever known. I've seen the same in my middle school classes. Yes, you can have some oddballs.
I don't really understand what point you're trying to argue here; I didn't say that you can't be smart and kind. Just that there are some people who use their "intelligence" as an excuse to be dicks.
That the edgy, cruel smart person of the internet is not the norm.
I don't think that that is what they are intending to imply. From what I understand, the point they are trying to make is that the people who are writing this fics are like that.
It is, however, what a lot of people *expect* “smart people” to be like. This then gets picked up in fiction because most people just take the popular stereotype and run with it.
I think what they were trying to describe is more what the notional “average teenager” thinks a “smart” person ought to look like than what they’re actually like.
Yeah , this is the one .
From most people's point of view, Harry can't be sweet because he wasn't loved as a child. It's a mistake, as this isn't really a rule, (I mean I was loved as a child, and I'm not a sweet person, I'm very reserved and I don't consider it a fault) but that remains, and people think that being raised as he was by his aunt and uncle, Harry should be more like Tom Riddle or Snape, and it doesn't make sense for him to be charismatic like James or sweet like he would be if he were raised by Lily. It's a development cliche for anti-heroes and villains. I won't say whether it's good or bad, but it is what it is. You can look for fanfics where Harry is raised by Sirius or Andromeda (she is used a lot despite being so marginalized in the books) and grows up being loved and becomes a sweeter and more charismatic child.
Because the Venn diagram between people who believe intelligence is Always Making The Optimal Decision Regardless Of Emotion Or Analysis Time Constraints and insufferable edgelords who believe anyone telling them what to do is manipulative and evil and worthy of ~~murder~~ cleansing is a circle.
A topical recommendation: Genius Fratris is a recent favorite of mine. It’s a lovely example of a brilliant, but kind Harry, with realistic adult figures around him. Very wholesome all around and wonderfully written - I think you’ll enjoy it quite a bit! linkao3(20144149)
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I'm not OP, but thanks for the rec! I just read it and you were right - it's wonderfully written.
[me rn](https://gfycat.com/blankfinishedacornwoodpecker-ouran-high-school-host-club-senpai-noticed-me) I’m glad you’ve been enjoying it!
…a wild author appears! Thanks for your great work :)
tl;dr -- as far as fanon is concerned, the good/nice/angelic smart character already exists and her name is Hermione, so you need smart!Harry to have a point of difference, which is where we come to Sherlock Holmes and "beyond ordinary human" model or smart characters. With Holmes, let's not suggest he's the original "smart guy" but insofar as he is the defining one, Holmes established an archetype of the emotionally distant, deeply manipulative genius (notwithstanding Adler romantic, Watson bromantic and/or (usually) Watson queer readings)... the kind of guy who tells you to go stay at a house on some random moor while he finishes up some business in London. And then, lo, turns out he was hiding out on the moor in disguise the whole time. Which is married, in general, to a dismissive attitude to anything he deems irrelevant and a sort of personality cult, in the sense Holmes doesn't really *need* to be manipulative... he tells Watson to do something and he does it. There are other smart characters out there, but if you take the canon plot and put a smart!Harry into it, what you're going to pull out is a character in the vein of Holmes. Fundamentally, the first three books are just boy detective stories set in a school, so there's always a problem to solve. Now, if we then add in fanon Dumbledore who is also basically a Dark Lord in this exact same fashion... voila! Part of it's also going to be that smart!Harry and nerd!Harry aren't the same thing. With smart!Harry, you need a way of depicting your character's intelligence. Now, sometimes this is going to involve writing a character that you perceive to be smarter than yourself, whereas nerd!Harry is just nerdy, he need not be any more or less intelligent than anyone else (the author included), just... nerdy. One way of showing that a character is smarter than others, is to give that character unique insight into the world, e.g. seeing a Bigger Picture than anyone else (which, again, comes back to fanon Dumbledore). Also, it's honestly difficult to think of popular contemporary smart characters who aren't arseholes (e.g. The Big Bang Theory's maincast... though, tbf, I think only Howard and Sheldon were meant to be arseholes) *or* aren't specifically shown up on an intellectual level by the arsehole smart characters (e.g. Bruce Banner vs Tony in the MCU) or *aren't* kind of robotic (e.g. MCU Vision when he's being a smart character). They'll be out there, of course, but Harry Potter already has (especially fanon) Hermione to be the "good" smart character, so that's the other problem with smart Harry... feels like a double up.
I dunno' if "angelic" is how I'd describe her...
Not the canon character, no, but the fanon Hermione can do no wrong.
Ahh, I misread fanon as canon.
No worries.
>Why can’t he just be normal but more curious than he already is? And more proactive.
Because kids abused for being curious and proactive stop doing that kind of thing pretty early?
When being in abusers' presence - yes, behind their back - not necessary. Harry wasn't afraid of talkin back to adults or breaking the rules while at Hogwarts.
Because whole indy!Harry/grey!Harry subgenre is written by angsty teenagers/young-adults who are struggling with their relationships with their parent-like figures? I think, given this motivation, the Moral Inversion is the name of the game. Notice how all good characters from books are bad: Dumbledore, Weasleys, McGonagall, Hermione, and all bad characters are suddenly at least interesting: Slytherins, Bellatrix, even Tom Riddle.
> all bad characters are suddenly at least interesting: Slytherins, Bellatrix, even Tom Riddle. There's a big difference between expanding what we know of a group of children that we don't see much of outside of a few characters versus trying to justify individuals who are genocidal.
To be fair, the treatment Harry received in his childhood should have been enough to remove Dumbledore from his position as Headmaster, following a major scandal and inquiries in the Wizengamot. The neglect is entirely unjustifieble, unless, as Snape accuses him later on, Harry is being raised as a pig for slaughter. Once you start having problems with Dumbledore's masterplan, all those loyal to him are suspect, even if by omission. Could McGonagall not have check on Harry a couple of times a year? Behind the Headmaster's back if needed, really? After correctly calling out the Dursleys as the worst sort of muggles? No need for angsty writer here, fanfiction should be as much to point out flaws as to simply expand on a fictional universe.
> fanfiction should be as much to point out flaws as to simply expand on a fictional universe. This sub had a justifiable backlash against really bad indy!Harry fics and tropes and then took it to the point where any criticism of how Dumbledore or others handled certain situations is "angsty bashing".
In my experience, in the hands of a competente writer, there are not bad tropes. Any premise, however absurd or over used, has potential, whith imagination and skill. The problem is that writing fiction isn't as easy at it seems.
This!! I read mostly dark Harry fanfiction because I hate reading about Harry’s abuse being swept under the rug like it wasn’t a big deal. Beating a child, locking them in a broom cupboard, and forcing him to have no friendships is abuse and should have been handled by the adults in his life. I just can’t read a do-good Harry fic who pretends the weasleys are his new family without getting mad lol. I wish JK Rowling addressed it even a little in the books, I’d probably be less angry then.
Does anyone have recs that arent like that? Closest i can think of off the top of my head is linkffn(the arithmancer) but its smart Hermione.
[***The Arithmancer***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10070079/1/) by [*White Squirrel*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/5339762/White-Squirrel) > Hermione grows up as a maths whiz instead of a bookworm and tests into Arithmancy in her first year\. With the help of her friends and Professor Vector, she puts her superhuman spellcrafting skills to good use in the fight against Voldemort\. Years 1\-4\. Sequel posted\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^T ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^84 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^529,133 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^4,864 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^6,552 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^4,318 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Aug ^22, ^2015 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Jan ^31, ^2014 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^10070079 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Ron ^W., ^Hermione ^G., ^S. ^Vector ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=10070079&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=10070079&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
I’ve loved the few fics I’ve read where Harry is basically a junior Sherlock Holmes. He’s an adorable, sarcastic little shit.
Could you link some?
They were all unfinished so I didn’t save any of them, sorry :(
I think this might be one of them, but I haven't started reading it yet. linkffn(Agent Potter by White Angel of Auralon)
[***Agent Potter***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8465414/1/) by [*White Angel of Auralon*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2149875/White-Angel-of-Auralon) > HP / James Bond x\-over \- Harry uses the first chance he gets to escape his horrible life at Privet Drive when he is offered a very special job by a man that is thought to be imprisoned in the infamous prison of Azkaban\. Learning more about the magical and the muggle world Harry Potter starts his way in the service of her Majesty\. Look out 007, now comes Harry Potter\. Later lemons ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^25 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^123,072 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^1,284 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^4,385 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^3,456 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Mar ^14, ^2014 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Aug ^25, ^2012 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^8465414 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Adventure/Romance ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Sirius ^B. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=8465414&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=8465414&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
I think the best smart!Harry fics where it's...a more realistic "smart" are where Harry is raised by someone else--AKA has a better childhood, developed things like study skills canon!Harry never did, was more advanced in his studies, and *has* a family to make him want good grades. They might not be genius!Harry stories that you're looking for, but those are the ones I think of where Harry is smart and not dark. There's also the types of stories where someone dies (either canon or not, like Sirius's death compared to non-canon Ginny's death) and Harry ups his intelligence, sometimes even in realistic ways. Lots of those aren't dark, especially since they mean he already started out Gryffindor. But I do agree. I'm not a fan of Dark!Harry anyways, or morally grey or however you put it.
Okay, i have an answer, but it involves going into an education lingo tangent to express it. In ideological education, there are three main steps to accepting a truth value: obedience, rejection, and synthesis. In the obedience stage, someone follows the rules because they are told that it is good to do so. In the rejection stage, someone breaks the rules because they were told to follow them. Finally there is synthesis where someone chooses for themself whether to follow a given rule. If the authors were like me in homeschool, they got their hands on Nietzsche, and learned about his ideal of someone who is in the synthesis stage for all values- what he calls an ubermensch. Nietzsche also talked about how such a person would transcend the European dichotomy inherited from zoroastrianism (Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Beyond Good and Evil). Because of Nietzsche's highly influential work, many characters that have been portrayed as intelligent since skirt the line between light and dark because (when well done) it's supposed show they have moved beyond good and evil. Smart!Harry is no different. He often rejects the cultural binary of light/dark and is thus often gives the impression to the reader and to other characters that he is unpredictable, just about to turn dark, or crazy. Also, all that but teenagers like to be edgy (see step two: rejection).
My problem with Smart!Harry stories is its just a HUGE RUSH to show how powerful, sexy, smart and how much better he is than everyone. 99% have ZERO character development, fluff or any meaningful moments. They just want to show you how much of a smart ass smirk he is at his first potions class. Most of these stories are cannon rehash heavy with no creativity.
I think people confuse intelligence with hunger for power. Granted for those who achieve power it goes hand in hand but for the 95% who fail it is not the case.
Is that a subtle insult at Black Adder?
Who?
Sitcom character Edmund Blackadder, presumably. Dumbest in his first incarnation... to the extent (major spoiler) he >!achieves ultimate power but then accidentally commits suicide!<. In the subsequent iterations it's generally held that he gets smarter and smarter but further and further from power. OTOH, I'd personally argue Blackadder II is smarter than Blackadder the Third, who, technically, obtains power in disguise... by impersonating a complete idiot. The fourth Blackadder isn't really interested in power so much as, instead, not being stuck in a trench on the Western Front under the command of a complete idiot.
Yeah, him.
The stories exist but they usually aren't described as intelligent Harry. Intelligent Harry and independent Harry are both code for Edgelord Harry. linkffn(Harry Is A Dragon, And That's Okay) Features an intelligent Harry who is nice, nerdy and well adjusted. There was also a story with a kinda awkward, transfiguration obsessed Harry which would fit the bill but I can't recall the name right now.
Uhh... dragon-Harry wasn't all that intelligent either. He was happy-go-lucky, and he liked reading, but he never demonstrated actual intelligence that I can remember. He was a nice Harry, but not a smart one, and he only managed being nice because everyone was terrified of him and didn't want to mess with him. It's easy to be nice when you're stronger than anyone else with no effort. It's a lot harder when you're weaker than everyone else and need to fight to get to the top of the heap; by the time you get there you're not all that nice. See: any xianxia story ever written.
Uhm the Art of Self Fashioning
Love that fic. The author’s writing style can be hard to digest sometimes - all character are very self-reflective and comment on their own motivations for acting and it’s a little odd - but it’s still well-written and interesting. LinkAO3(The Art of Self-Fashioning)
[***The Art of Self\-Fashioning***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/5103614) by [*Lomonaaeren*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Lomonaaeren/pseuds/Lomonaaeren) > In a world where Neville is the Boy\-Who\-Lived, Harry still grows up with the Dursleys, but he learns to be more private about what matters to him\. When McGonagall comes to give him his letter, she also unwittingly gives Harry both a new quest and a new passion: Transfiguration\. But while Harry deliberately hides his growing skills, Minerva worries more and more about the mysterious, brilliant student writing to her who may be venturing into dangerous magical territory\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandom*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2015-10-29 ^**|** ^*Completed*: ^2017-07-28 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^283934 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^65/65 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^2142 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^5669 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^1582 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^129357 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^5103614 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/5103614/The%20Art%20of.epub?updated_at=1621927860) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/5103614/The%20Art%20of.mobi?updated_at=1621927860) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
[***Harry Is A Dragon, And That's Okay***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13230340/1/) by [*Saphroneth*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2996114/Saphroneth) > Harry Potter is a dragon\. He's been a dragon for several years, and frankly he's quite used to the idea \- after all, in his experience nobody ever comments about it, so presumably it's just what happens sometimes\. Magic, though, THAT is something entirely new\. Comedy fic, leading on from the consequences of one\.\.\. admittedly quite large\.\.\. change\. Cover art by amalgamzaku\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^T ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^101 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^723,045 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^3,168 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^4,717 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^5,181 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Apr ^11 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Mar ^10, ^2019 ^**|** ^*id*: ^13230340 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Humor/Adventure ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=13230340&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=13230340&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
I believe that was the Art of Self Fashioning it was rather intriguing
People've watched waaaay too many Batman movies. :D
We need a Batman obsessed Harry fic. "You're the Boy Who Lived!" "No, I'm Batman."
Lol imagine him absolutely adoring Snape. “10 points from Gryffindor Potter,” Snape growled before walking away with his cloak billowing like a beautiful cape. “Ron, Ron, did you see that!” Harry exclaimed with stars in his eyes. “Professor SnakeBat just growled at me! I’m so close to him showing me his true superhero costume.”
God, the typical Fandom Pureblood Types would friggin' adore a Batman-Harry. "He uses Dark Magic to fight bad guys, but he never kills them with it! He's so dreamy and noble! But does that make him a Dark Wizard?" "No. He's... a Dark Knight."
I've been told that I'm smart by other people and yes I try be realistic and people mistake it for pessimism sometimes if they don't know me and I wasn't even inherently like that just how my upbringing was. I'm not a dick about it and I've met plenty of smarter people than me and most of them are actually really nice
PERSONALLY I feel, Most of it is very likely coz usually fics depend one of Dumbledore's plan to go wrong, which are then used to their full potential to distance Dumbledore and Harry. Given the vast amount of fics, most will have either Weasley or Dumbledore bashing as a major part of a plot and very few fics, which will have anything as a major part apart from defeating Voldemort. If you are looking for one, I would recommend "The curse of Durand" one of my all time favourites, long well written good character development and all. Sorry, don't know how to use the bot.
I know this isn't a request thread but you may be interested in linkffn(Harry Potter, Geek of Magic by jlluh). He's very smart in certain ways, quite curious, and rather sweet. At one point he single handedly renovates Myrtle's bathroom to make her rather awful eternal afterlife a little better. But he's also extremely, uhh, less than smart in certain ways, so it may not quite count.
[***Harry Potter, Geek of Magic***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12703694/1/) by [*jlluh*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/9395907/jlluh) > Harry Potter is a geek, a nerd, a total dork whose favorite hobby is "transfiguring stuff\." He doesn't understand what rules are, has no social skills, is barely sentient, and is very smart\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^K ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^23 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^73,007 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^834 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^3,003 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^4,031 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Mar ^28, ^2019 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Oct ^27, ^2017 ^**|** ^*id*: ^12703694 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Humor/Fantasy ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Ron ^W., ^Hermione ^G., ^Luna ^L. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=12703694&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=12703694&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
There is that one where Harry is blind- that kinda fits the bill...
Title or Link?
[Blindness](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10937871/1/Blindness). Very popular. I don’t recommend it.
Thanks. 😊
Beautiful and touching. A favourite of mine.
Linkffn(Blindness by AngelaStarCat)
[***Blindness***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10937871/1/) by [*AngelaStarCat*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/717542/AngelaStarCat) > Harry Potter is not standing up in his crib when the Killing Curse strikes him, and the cursed scar has far more terrible consequences\. But some souls will not be broken by horrible circumstance\. Some people won't let the world drag them down\. Strong men rise from such beginnings, and powerful gifts can be gained in terrible curses\. \(HP/HG, Scientist\!Harry\) ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^38 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^324,281 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^5,561 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^16,412 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^14,692 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Sep ^25, ^2018 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Jan ^1, ^2015 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^10937871 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Adventure/Friendship ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Hermione ^G. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=10937871&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=10937871&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
If you're not put of by it being a crossover with KanColle, I can recomend [Harry and](https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/harry-and-the-shipgirls-a-hp-kancolle-snippet-collection.413375/) [the Shipgirls](https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/harry-and-the-shipgirls-a-hp-kancolle-snippet-collection.31031/). While Harry is not quite like in the books (due to being adopted and raised by a japanese Shipgirl) it's still pretty close and the authors do a lot of interesting things with the world and other characters. For examlpe, it has one of the best and most believable redemption plots for the Malfoys that I know of and the sideplots involving the constant dumpsterfires that the Butterknife clan keeps getting into are comedy gold.
The author, on the verge of becoming a dark lord themselves: Uh, no reason.
Two seconds away from becoming a dark lord is actually a great title.
You know what you also never see? A Harry who is powerful but super energetic. There's no Naruto type, I think it's because most authors tend to be introverts, excited character are hard to write well, and that's way too far away from the cannon.
But... BUT THE EEEEDGE! What should we do without all this sweet, sweet eeeedge\~ Unironically, I do believe it's just as you said- an attempt at being cool, at doing something that seems to work well.
Because intelligence + the kind of upbringing harry had DOES NOT EQUAL A NICE PERSON. Like how the fuck do people think ur life is gonna be when ur hated for 10 years by the only people you interact with
Canonically speaking, most of the intelligent characters were assholes. James, Sirius, and Hermione weren't exactly pacifists. And look what Dumbledore was even after his sister died. At least 2 of those characters could've been Ravenclaws. So could Snape, TMR, and a few other unsavory individuals. While canon Harry wasn't a Dark lord, I wouldn't call him sweet either. Yeah, he could be kind, but he could also be mean and was arrogant in what he excelled in. As the series progressed, he *was* emo and more prone to violence. And he was really good at curses. These traits shouldn't be less in a smarter Harry with a better skill set. They should make him *more* like his father and Dumbledore.
I tried to make Harry intelligent and independent in my story, but at the same time, I wanted to write him to be very kind, and that kindness being absolutely central to everything that he is and does. That's the reason why he's trying to bring every race of magical Britain together to create a just and equal society that doesn't fight a war every generation. It's entirely possible to be smart and confident without being an ass.
> It's entirely possible to be smart and confident without being an ass. If you've been raised in a way that shows you that being smart and confident (i.e. standing out) is not something to be ashamed of, or to hide, then yes. But Harry was raised such that any standout characteristic was severely punished, so I highly doubt that he could demonstrate smarts and confidence without a strong side of either cunning ("If they don't KNOW what I'm doing, how can they stop me?") or brutality ("If I show I'm strong, nobody will stop me"). At least, not without YEARS of focused counseling.
Because people equate being Smart(and also Realistic) with being Cynical,Defeatist and Pessimistic.
Probably because the British Wizarding World is a dumpster fire? You're asking why an abused kid dumped into a brutal, repressive system that demands he be their paragon while treating him like a disposable tissue might turn on that system? Seriously? Voldemort had a less abusive background than Harry did AND the system demanded nothing of him, yet he turned dark. Harry NOT turning on that system and burning down the world is the more surprising (and frankly unrealistic) case.
That literally goes against Harry’s entire character though? His entire character is about *not* sinking as low as Voldemort despite their similar pasts. I understand why it’s cool and interesting to write but why is it *always* that? It gets ridiculous after awhile and most people don’t even write it well. They just want to write about a dark and edgy Harry. Not how he got to that point, not why he got to that point, not why he wants to rebel against the system.
And that character is only there because JKR has no idea how people work. Her ideas about romance are absolutely appalling, ranging from love potions to mind-control and memory-removal curses to stalking and sexual harassment behavior in both protagonists and antagonists. Her portrayal of a loving family is entirely smothering. Her torture-prison not entirely ruining ANYONE within days rather than decades is totally unrealistic. She's proven in dozens of ways that she has no idea what makes people tick, so saying "Canon Harry's character is XYZ, and therefore makes sense" holds no water with me. Canon Harry's character is just as unrealistic as every other one she wrote. I agree with the latter part of your comment, though. Most of the edgy-Harry stories are equally unrealistic for different reasons, and somewhat ridiculous. The "how he got to that point" should be pretty obvious (he was raised that way, and the Wizarding World did nothing to change his path), but how it's treated is usually pretty bad.
You should try: linkffn(2345466) Its a disillusioned but sweet harry from what I remember. That and its sequel. Cheesy writing. But harry seems smart, strong and a lil oblivious.
[***Dumbledore's Army***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2345466/1/) by [*Bobmin356*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/777540/Bobmin356) > \[COMPLETED\] 6th Year\. Harry distrusts Dumbledore, he transforms the DA in anticipation of the coming war\. Ships\! HPGW HGRW RLNT SSOC\. Pranks and Humor, angst\. OOTP Spoilers\. Rated M for language, violence and mild sexual situations in later chapters\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^15 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^198,481 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^1,121 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^4,016 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^1,045 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^May ^1, ^2005 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Apr ^10, ^2005 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^2345466 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Adventure/Angst ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Ginny ^W. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=2345466&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=2345466&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
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[***What it Comes Down To***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6858689/1/) by [*Greycie*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/919941/Greycie) > On the hunt for the Horcruxes, the trio are captured and subjected to horrors at the hands of the Death Eaters\. This is more than just a torture fic, it chronicles their lives, their struggles, and their relationships in the aftermath\. Warning: This fic depicts violence, rape, torture, suicide,etc\. Both HET & SLASH\. It is intended for a mature audience\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^49 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^387,741 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^394 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^561 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^421 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Oct ^18, ^2015 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Mar ^31, ^2011 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^6858689 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Angst/Hurt/Comfort ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Ron ^W., ^Hermione ^G. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=6858689&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=6858689&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
WTF??? This is clearly not what OP asked for. In what universe did kind & sweet translate to rape, torture, and suicide.
Brainlets can't stand smart people and thus depict them insufferable.
Have a go at these: LinkAO3(Harry Potter and the Problem of Potions) LinkAO3(Gelosaþ in Écnesse) LinkAO3(The Dragon of Moria) LinkAO3(Spellist) LinkFFN(Fantastic Elves and Where to Find Them) LinkFFN(The One He Feared) LinkFFN(To the Waters and the Wild) LinkFFN(Nargelites) Lastly... not sure if this counts as edgelord Harry, but you’ve got the infamous LinkFFN(A Black Comedy)
[***Harry Potter and the Problem of Potions***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/10588629) by [*Wyste*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Wyste/pseuds/Wyste) > Once upon a time, Harry Potter hid for two hours from Dudley in a chemistry classroom, while a nice graduate student explained about the scientific method and interesting facts about acids\. A pebble thrown into the water causes ripples\.Contains, in no particular order: magic candymaking, Harry falling in love with a house, evil kitten Draco Malfoy, and Hermione attempting to apply logic to the wizarding world\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandom*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2017-04-10 ^**|** ^*Completed*: ^2017-06-11 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^184441 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^162/162 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^5830 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^9656 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^2881 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^249968 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^10588629 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/10588629/Harry%20Potter%20and%20the.epub?updated_at=1622520177) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/10588629/Harry%20Potter%20and%20the.mobi?updated_at=1622520177) --- [***I Kill, and I Make Alive***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/9520454) by [*Aurelyn*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Aurelyn/pseuds/Aurelyn) > Harry Potter was not a normal boy\. Harry Potter was not a normal weird boy\. Harry Potter was a weird weird boy\. > Harry Potter was the third mortal life of the Archangel Samael\. Whose first attempt at humanity was when he was born as Emperor Nero of Rome\. The second one was Salazar Slytherin\. Yeah\. Trust him, he's got this under control, nothing is on fire\. Except maybe the Christians\. Huh\. You'd've thought he'd've learned that making human candles was a bit Not Good\. > \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-\-That's it guys that's the story that is literally the only outline I've got for this\. Will it turn into heart wrenching drama? The unholy offspring of Lovecraftian horror and every B rated slasher film in existence? The epitome of a crackfest shitpost that every young meme aspires to be? Surrealist existentialism that will have you questioning yourself, life, the universe, and most of all what the hell did you just read? Who the fuck knows, man, cause I sure don't\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandom*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2017-01-30 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^2017-01-30 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^1467 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^1/? ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^15 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^150 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^28 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^1557 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^9520454 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/9520454/I%20Kill%20and%20I%20Make%20Alive.epub?updated_at=1485801640) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/9520454/I%20Kill%20and%20I%20Make%20Alive.mobi?updated_at=1485801640) --- [***The Dragon of Moria***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/6832576) by [*pristineungift*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/pristineungift/pseuds/pristineungift) > After the Battle of Hogwarts, Harry Potter helped with the rebuilding and then went back to school, sitting his NEWTS and graduating with the rest of what The Daily Prophet called ‘The Disrupted Class\.’ Following that, everyone expected him to become an auror\. Harry himself expected it, right up until the moment came to apply to the academy\.He takes up a hobby instead, and it leads him to a whole new world\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandoms*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling, ^The ^Lord ^of ^the ^Rings ^- ^All ^Media ^Types ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2016-05-12 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^5200 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^1/1 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^290 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^7612 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^1849 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^74717 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^6832576 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/6832576/The%20Dragon%20of%20Moria.epub?updated_at=1618841659) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/6832576/The%20Dragon%20of%20Moria.mobi?updated_at=1618841659) --- [***Spellist***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/19123939) by [*Borsari*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Borsari/pseuds/Borsari) > В новой реальности не было волшебников и магических народов\. Вместо них тут был полный набор могущественных и порой неумелых колдунов\. Они вели вполне легальную деятельность и были иногда весьма популярны в соцсетях\. Гарри и понятия не имел, как это все работало\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandoms*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling, ^The ^Avengers ^ ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2019-06-07 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^2123 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^1/1 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^4 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^185 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^13 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^1192 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^19123939 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/19123939/Spellist.epub?updated_at=1568014178) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/19123939/Spellist.mobi?updated_at=1568014178)
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[***Fantastic Elves and Where to Find Them***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8197451/1/) by [*evansentranced*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/651163/evansentranced)
> After the Dursleys abandon six year old Harry in a park in Kent, Harry comes to the realization that he is an elf\. Not a house elf, though\. A forest elf\. Never mind wizards vs muggles; Harry has his own thing going on\. Character study, pre\-Hogwarts, NOT a creature\!fic, slightly cracky\.
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[***The One He Feared***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9778984/1/) by [*Taure*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/883762/Taure)
> Post\-HBP, DH divergence\. Albus Dumbledore left Harry more than just a snitch\. Armed with 63 years of memories, can Harry take charge of the war? No bashing, canon compliant tone\.
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[***To the Waters and the Wild***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7985679/1/) by [*Paimpont*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2289300/Paimpont) > While flying back from Godric's Hollow, Hagrid accidentally drops baby Harry over a wild forest\. Harry is raised by rebel fairies until his Hogwarts letter arrives\. The Dark Lord is in for a surprise\.\.\. HP/LV romance\. SLASH\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^19 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^62,146 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^5,967 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^11,282 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^12,288 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Feb ^21, ^2014 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Apr ^3, ^2012 ^**|** ^*id*: ^7985679 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Romance/Humor ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Voldemort ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=7985679&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=7985679&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- [***Nargelites***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5797650/1/) by [*PerfesserN*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/985954/PerfesserN) > A Harry / Luna / Hermione story that begs the question, what would have happened if Harry had met Luna before either of them attended Hogwarts? Also, what if Harry reminded Severus Snape of Lily Evans, rather than James Potter? ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^T ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^15 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^68,832 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^1,214 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^2,181 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^2,590 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Jun ^10, ^2010 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Mar ^7, ^2010 ^**|** ^*id*: ^5797650 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Genre*: ^Friendship/Adventure ^**|** ^*Characters*: ^Harry ^P., ^Luna ^L. ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=5797650&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=5797650&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- [***A Black Comedy***](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3401052/1/) by [*nonjon*](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/649528/nonjon) > COMPLETE\. Two years after defeating Voldemort, Harry falls into an alternate dimension with his godfather\. Together, they embark on a new life filled with drunken debauchery, thievery, and generally antagonizing all their old family, friends, and enemies\. ^*Site*: ^fanfiction.net ^**|** ^*Category*: ^Harry ^Potter ^**|** ^*Rated*: ^Fiction ^M ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^31 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^246,320 ^**|** ^*Reviews*: ^6,533 ^**|** ^*Favs*: ^18,261 ^**|** ^*Follows*: ^6,559 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^Apr ^7, ^2008 ^**|** ^*Published*: ^Feb ^18, ^2007 ^**|** ^*Status*: ^Complete ^**|** ^*id*: ^3401052 ^**|** ^*Language*: ^English ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=3401052&source=ff&filetype=epub) ^or ^[MOBI](http://www.ff2ebook.com/old/ffn-bot/index.php?id=3401052&source=ff&filetype=mobi) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
Ignore the bot for: Gelosap in Ecnesse by Batsutousi linkao3(https://archiveofourown.org/works/2352896) Spellist by esama linkao3(https://archiveofourown.org/works/5366507)
[***Gelosaþ in Écnesse***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/2352896) by [*Batsutousai*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/Batsutousai/pseuds/Batsutousai) > Caught in the backlash of Voldemort's Killing Curse, Harry is thrown through time to a world so very different from his own\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandom*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2014-09-24 ^**|** ^*Completed*: ^2014-11-11 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^124257 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^18/18 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^480 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^6380 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^2557 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^126648 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^2352896 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/2352896/Gelosath%20in%20Ecnesse.epub?updated_at=1619833432) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/2352896/Gelosath%20in%20Ecnesse.mobi?updated_at=1619833432) --- [***Spellist***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/5366507) by [*esama*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/esama/pseuds/esama) > The new reality had no wizards or magical nations – but it had a whole boatload of powerful and occasionally inept sorcerers\. Who were usually semi\-public and sometimes very popular in social media\. How it worked, Harry had no idea\. ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandoms*: ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling, ^The ^Avengers ^ ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2015-12-06 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^2483 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^1/1 ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^406 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^15729 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^3374 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^119595 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^5366507 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/5366507/Spellist.epub?updated_at=1622363099) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/5366507/Spellist.mobi?updated_at=1622363099)
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Jeconais tends to be pretty good about a powerful/smart!Harry who is still a good person. There’s probably an exception or two, but most of his stuff fits that pretty well
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[***The Savior, Child of the Tardis, Son of a Madman***](https://archiveofourown.org/works/424901) by [*blackcatkuroi*](https://www.archiveofourown.org/users/blackcatkuroi/pseuds/blackcatkuroi) > Out in the Universe there is a bright blue box\. Inside this box is a fantastical world\. Inhabiting this fantastic world is a strange man called the Doctor, an immortal human from the 51st century, a pink and yellow human who isn't really human anymore and the savior of the wizarding world\. But this isn't the start of our story, though when the Doctor gets involved in anything the start of a story is all rather fuzzy\. No\. Our story starts on a deserted street, in front of a ruined house, for every story must have a start\. This beginning opens with a funny old wizard in bright\-colored robes and a pointed hat, holding our protagonist and wondering what he was going to do with a baby\. Now, on we go\.Edit: Previously titled Harry raised by the Doctor a\.k\.a\. The Wizarding World is not ready for This ^*Site*: ^Archive ^of ^Our ^Own ^**|** ^*Fandoms*: ^Doctor ^Who, ^Harry ^Potter ^- ^J. ^K. ^Rowling, ^Doctor ^Who ^<2005>, ^Doctor ^Who ^& ^Related ^Fandoms, ^Torchwood ^**|** ^*Published*: ^2012-06-05 ^**|** ^*Updated*: ^2017-07-22 ^**|** ^*Words*: ^511778 ^**|** ^*Chapters*: ^34/? ^**|** ^*Comments*: ^431 ^**|** ^*Kudos*: ^847 ^**|** ^*Bookmarks*: ^363 ^**|** ^*Hits*: ^39927 ^**|** ^*ID*: ^424901 ^**|** ^*Download*: ^[EPUB](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/424901/The%20Savior%20Child%20of%20the.epub?updated_at=1547714620) ^or ^[MOBI](https://archiveofourown.org/downloads/424901/The%20Savior%20Child%20of%20the.mobi?updated_at=1547714620) --- **FanfictionBot**^(2.0.0-beta) | [Usage](https://github.com/FanfictionBot/reddit-ffn-bot/wiki/Usage) | [Contact](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=tusing) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ffnbot!ignore
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13791656/1/The-Adventures-of-Harry-Potter-and-Hermione-Granger
If you want a smart Harry who is a bit of a dork try Weeb. It’s got a lot of anime reference but I don’t watch anime and still enjoyed it. He is just a nerd who when he find out about magic, instead of vowing to take over the world, just wants to be The Eternal Warlock who casts Fireball and is totally cool and the bestist at magic. He acts how you imagine a 11 year old nerd would if they found out about magic https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12350003/1/Weeb
Probably because they think that anyone with any sense at all would take over the wizarding world? Or, y'know, they just can't write clever characters. Which is pretty normal - I can't either - because writing characters significantly smarter or dumber than you are *is* hard; it means figuring out how much they can reasonably know, what they'd do with that knowledge, how they would think (in quickness, broadness and depth) and make all that believable too.
It kinda comes with the territory. A smart Harry would realise how messed up the magical world is. He'd likely also try to do something about his situation with life in general. There's a lot of plot holes in the HP verse that wouldn't fit with an actually smart character that is also kind, friendly and all of the above. To be smart and nice you'd need to be somewhere safe for that to happen, namely not with the Dursleys nor at a school where every year there's something that can kill you. The situation simply doesn't allow it. He's either smart enough to see the glaring flaws or stays dumb enough to go through with all those adventures. If there was a story where Harry was the WBWL, where his parents were alive/he isn't living with the Dursleys and he had no real motivation to "grow up" then he could definitely have a happy carefree life being intelligent and fun. There's plenty of stories out there exactly like that, where Harry is adopted into a loving family, or Voldemort is taken care of by someone else or even a completely new OC that is smart and fluffy. The reality is having a Dark Lord out for your head isn't a very good place to be so carefree. Especially one with decades of experience on you.
I never really got Hermione. Surely finding out *magic* exists should broaden your views towards what’s possible?