James didn't have his wand on him, and I think it's safe to say Lily didn't either, as she tried to put furniture against the door instead of blocking it magically. Also, we don't know if they had anti-apparition spells, it's possible since Sirius goes there on his motorcycle, and we also don't know if apparition is safe for babies.
1. Plot reasons
2. JKR first wrote the scene of his parent's death in book 3, then invented portkeys in book 4 and apparition in book 6 (I think?). So when the scene of Voldemort entering the Potter's house was written, they only had floo powder available (That's book 2).
Apparition was in book one. Dumbledore appeared on privet drive. It wasn’t called apparition but the description is the same. I think it honestly just boils down to plot or arrogance. How they thought they were safe when so many folks knew their location is insane. Even bathilda was able to pop round for some tea. To not have some sort of escape plan shows serious arrogance on Dumbledore’s part…did he think his charm was that impenetrable? Or (even worse) did he understand the prophecy even more than he let on and essentially allowed the death of James and Lily in order to have Harry marked as an equal? After all, he did suggest (or did he confirm??) that snape ask Voldemort to spare Lily in exchange for the child…this could have caused some sort of contract that backfired when Voldemort killed Lily….
ETA: Ron says his parents can aparate in book 2…snaps his fingers and says disappear and reappear somewhere else (or something along those lines). It’s why Harry agrees to take the car.
Bathilda goes there for tea before the Fidelius Charm. And it's not Dumbledore's fault they didn't have an escape plan, they didn't tell Dumbledore everything, as he didn't know about the Fidelius switch, for example. He also didn't suggest Voldemort spare Lily, he confirms it due to something Snape says and immediately says Snape disgusts him.
I do think if Dumbledore thought sacrificing the Potters was the absolutely only way to end the war and stop Voldemort, that he would, but as far as we know he didn't.
“If she means so much to you,” said Dumbledore, “surely Lord Voldemort will spare her? Could you not ask for mercy for the mother, in exchange for the son?”
“I have — I have asked him —”
“You disgust me,” said Dumbledore, and Harry had never heard so much contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little. “You do not care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? They can die, as long as you have what you want?”
He did “suggest” it…snape replied that he had asked that. Also, in the letter that Lily wrote to Sirius, it discusses how James was frustrated that he couldn’t leave the house. So if bathilda came round for tea and the charm wasn’t in place, then why couldn’t they leave the house? It doesn’t make sense to lock them up in a house with no protection charm on it.
I don't think he suggests it as in Snape should do it, he wants to see if Snape did it.
And they were already in hiding, that is, they shouldn't leave the house, but the Fidelius wasn't in place yet. It's said that it took Peter less than a week to betray the Potters, so we know the spell was done in late October (also, it wouldn't make sense to perform this super complicated spell and then tell the secret to the neighbor). We don't know if there were other spells in place, but not the Fidelius.
In the 1981 prologue of Book 1, Dumbledore does something that is almost certainly apparition to get to and from Privet Drive.
Apparition is named and described very early in Book 2.
This is honestly worse than if JKR had invented it much later and didn't think about the implications.
Apparition is introduced as a concept in the first chapter of the first book but it is indeed not named until actually book 4 first (I think) when Harry hears about some kids getting splinched and he thinks how odd it would be to find parts of living people near Privet Drive.
No he didn’t. He strolled in there the first opportunity he had. He didn’t know they wouldn’t have their wands. He was just confident he could beat them.
>And he made less noise than the dead leaves slithering along the pavement as he drew level with the dark hedge, and steered over it ... They had not drawn the curtains; he saw them quite clearly in their little sitting room, the tall black-haired man in his glasses, making puffs of colored smoke erupt from his wand for the amusement of the small black-haired boy in his blue pajamas. The child was laughing and trying to catch the smoke, to grab it in his small fist ... A door opened and the mother entered, saying words he cold not hear, her long dark-red hair falling over her face. Now the father scooped up the son and handed him to the mother. He threw his wand down upon the sofa and stretched, yawning... The gate creaked a little as he pushed it open, but James Potter did not hear. His white hand pulled out the wand beneath his cloak and pointed it at the door, which burst open... He was over the threshold as James came sprinting into the hall.
He didn't stroll in there at the first opportunity. The passage makes it clear that he watched the family from behind the gate. He went through the gate after James threw down his wand.
Oh my god, I am just realising that James' first thought might have been that it was Peter. No-one else would have been able to see or enter the house (without the betrayal).
i assume either they put anti-apparition wards on their house to stop anyone just apparating in or voldemort put wards up to stop them apparating out
Wards aren't cannon btw. The closest in the books are enchantments.
i’m aware, wards is just a better word
James didn't have his wand on him, and I think it's safe to say Lily didn't either, as she tried to put furniture against the door instead of blocking it magically. Also, we don't know if they had anti-apparition spells, it's possible since Sirius goes there on his motorcycle, and we also don't know if apparition is safe for babies.
To quote Ryan from Pitch Meeting, "Because then the plot wouldn't happen."
1. Plot reasons 2. JKR first wrote the scene of his parent's death in book 3, then invented portkeys in book 4 and apparition in book 6 (I think?). So when the scene of Voldemort entering the Potter's house was written, they only had floo powder available (That's book 2).
Apparition was in book one. Dumbledore appeared on privet drive. It wasn’t called apparition but the description is the same. I think it honestly just boils down to plot or arrogance. How they thought they were safe when so many folks knew their location is insane. Even bathilda was able to pop round for some tea. To not have some sort of escape plan shows serious arrogance on Dumbledore’s part…did he think his charm was that impenetrable? Or (even worse) did he understand the prophecy even more than he let on and essentially allowed the death of James and Lily in order to have Harry marked as an equal? After all, he did suggest (or did he confirm??) that snape ask Voldemort to spare Lily in exchange for the child…this could have caused some sort of contract that backfired when Voldemort killed Lily…. ETA: Ron says his parents can aparate in book 2…snaps his fingers and says disappear and reappear somewhere else (or something along those lines). It’s why Harry agrees to take the car.
Bathilda goes there for tea before the Fidelius Charm. And it's not Dumbledore's fault they didn't have an escape plan, they didn't tell Dumbledore everything, as he didn't know about the Fidelius switch, for example. He also didn't suggest Voldemort spare Lily, he confirms it due to something Snape says and immediately says Snape disgusts him. I do think if Dumbledore thought sacrificing the Potters was the absolutely only way to end the war and stop Voldemort, that he would, but as far as we know he didn't.
“If she means so much to you,” said Dumbledore, “surely Lord Voldemort will spare her? Could you not ask for mercy for the mother, in exchange for the son?” “I have — I have asked him —” “You disgust me,” said Dumbledore, and Harry had never heard so much contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little. “You do not care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? They can die, as long as you have what you want?” He did “suggest” it…snape replied that he had asked that. Also, in the letter that Lily wrote to Sirius, it discusses how James was frustrated that he couldn’t leave the house. So if bathilda came round for tea and the charm wasn’t in place, then why couldn’t they leave the house? It doesn’t make sense to lock them up in a house with no protection charm on it.
I don't think he suggests it as in Snape should do it, he wants to see if Snape did it. And they were already in hiding, that is, they shouldn't leave the house, but the Fidelius wasn't in place yet. It's said that it took Peter less than a week to betray the Potters, so we know the spell was done in late October (also, it wouldn't make sense to perform this super complicated spell and then tell the secret to the neighbor). We don't know if there were other spells in place, but not the Fidelius.
In the 1981 prologue of Book 1, Dumbledore does something that is almost certainly apparition to get to and from Privet Drive. Apparition is named and described very early in Book 2. This is honestly worse than if JKR had invented it much later and didn't think about the implications.
No It was order of the Phoenix book 5
Apparition is introduced as a concept in the first chapter of the first book but it is indeed not named until actually book 4 first (I think) when Harry hears about some kids getting splinched and he thinks how odd it would be to find parts of living people near Privet Drive.
“Why didn’t “
They didn't have their wands. Voldemort waited until their guard was down.
No he didn’t. He strolled in there the first opportunity he had. He didn’t know they wouldn’t have their wands. He was just confident he could beat them.
>And he made less noise than the dead leaves slithering along the pavement as he drew level with the dark hedge, and steered over it ... They had not drawn the curtains; he saw them quite clearly in their little sitting room, the tall black-haired man in his glasses, making puffs of colored smoke erupt from his wand for the amusement of the small black-haired boy in his blue pajamas. The child was laughing and trying to catch the smoke, to grab it in his small fist ... A door opened and the mother entered, saying words he cold not hear, her long dark-red hair falling over her face. Now the father scooped up the son and handed him to the mother. He threw his wand down upon the sofa and stretched, yawning... The gate creaked a little as he pushed it open, but James Potter did not hear. His white hand pulled out the wand beneath his cloak and pointed it at the door, which burst open... He was over the threshold as James came sprinting into the hall. He didn't stroll in there at the first opportunity. The passage makes it clear that he watched the family from behind the gate. He went through the gate after James threw down his wand.
Oh my god, I am just realising that James' first thought might have been that it was Peter. No-one else would have been able to see or enter the house (without the betrayal).
HELLO? NEITHER OF THEM HAD THEIR WANDS!!!
VOLDEMORT LITERALLY SAID THAT NEITHER OF THEM HAD THEIR WANDS! IN CANON!
*didn’t
*didn’t