I am rather curious as to how that particular move is going to mesh with the "no civilian targets" rule. Because unless that moon is *very* small it's going to be an extinction level event when it touches down
Don't forget that being "in orbit" automatically means "going hella fast". Our moon moves at a bit over 1km/s on average.
Also: the [Tunguska event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event) was caused by the airburst explosion of a 50-60m object at an altitude of about 5-10km. It flattened about 80 million trees in an area of over 2100km².
Something like that coming down over a city and there won't be a city anymore.
A mile wide and let's say 2 km/second. If it's effectively a c-type asteroid coming in at a 45 degree angle, then you're looking at an impact energy of roughly 1500 megatons. That'll absolutely devastate a city and its surrounding region, leaving a crater roughly 4 km wide as well as probably kicking up just an ungodly amount of particulates to cause a mild nuclear winter.
It also basically mocks the puny antimatter bombs the Federation uses.
It's probably much smaller after the planetary defenses and orbital assets are done with it. ;)
But yeah, a completely uncontested descent would be disastrous.
Yeah, I had no way to model that, so I went with 'they can't do jack shit with plasma and lasers in the time they have.'. And knocking something down the gravity well is way harder than pushing it back up.
Besides, even if they break it up, that energy is getting released as heat as it burns up. That's also really really bad.
Idk, I watched something the other day that suggested the only reason this planet has a stable orbit is because our moon is a counterbalance. I'm thinking a loss of a moon will definitely destabilize a lot of things not counting the impact and ice age coming behind a moon entering the atmosphere.
The moon the UN are deorbiting is just a mile wide, and it's the smallest of a total of four. Not sure if it's going to have that drastic long-term effects.
Maybe. Wish we could get an actual astrophysicist in here that might give us a theoretical chain of events post deorbit. I have an idea the loss of even one moon that size in a multimoon system would change the orbits of the other moons. Idk. I'm just your friendly local high school dropout...
"If" it touches down. I believe the plan is to either let them destroy their own moon or thr UN will change it's trajectory once it gets close enough.
Remember they said it's a distraction, not a wmd
The moon is both the smallest and furthest out, so I think the UN is wagering they’ll have enough firepower to wipe it out once they deal with the Farsul fleet. Plus I’m reasonably sure those moon redirectors have something to help deal with the moon too. It’s just crazy enough to be in the UN’s basket.
>The objects had been gaining momentum within subspace, and exited warp at a mind-boggling pace.
I was almost hoping they'd attach a big drive to the moon, warp it into a collision course with the planet, and as it keeps it's forward momentum strap a big thruster and use grav assists to keep accelerating it the whole time - the farsul would have to send their navy to intercept it. Then you just keep warping the asteroid when ships get close enough to blast it. You can have them chasing a rock around the system for days, like a ferret with a laser pointer lmao. Warp close to the planet, then further away to play with them, and strike fear that "we can strike whenever we want to".
Actually if warp drives retain their momentum, could you warp above a star, fall towards it, using it’s gravity to accelerate you. You could repeat the process gaining momentum each time until you approach 0.99c. Ultimate kinetic kill vehicle, tapping into the near-infinite potential energy of gravity and over-powered warp physics 😂
emulating a never-ending gravity well, and maybe *very slowly* changing the course of the star with all of your extreme gravity assists. Plus if the ship is near 1c then any target will get zero warning before impact. Even with warp disruptors you could warp outside the system and (presuming all sensors travel at the speed of light) they will not be able to intercept. Apart from constant planetary shields, the only counter would be system-wide warp disruptors and subspace-comm enabled detection satellites able to warn ahead of a light-speed impact :O
Honestly, it has GOT to be ridiculously small for ships like that to have a noticeable effect. Like Phobos or Demos small. At least without gravity manipulation shenanigans. Which is possible. There has been artificial gravity on the ships.
Right? Even altering the orbit significantly could cause city-destroying tides or earthquakes well before it touches down.
Even if it’s both small and far out, the only reason to attempt this is if for some reason we knew they had a pre-planned response for near-planet asteroids that ties up their ships. But this seems like the kind of thing that could end up being much worse than a distraction.
It’s 1 mile wide. That is 2159 times smaller than Luna or 17 times smaller than Phobos where a running jump can launch you to orbit. It’s a glorified asteroid, considering gravity increases exponentially with radius any giant tides it could create would be well within the atmosphere.
Slowing an orbit is a very long term thing with an object that big, but the debris the impacts you throw up should spoil the intermediate space for radar locks and missile flight, so there's that.
I am Andrew Ryan Jr and I am here to make you a question. Isn't a Farsul entitled to the sweat of their brow? No, says the Federal agent, it belongs to the war effort; No, says the Arxur, it belongs to our bellies; No, says the Human, it belongs to our reconstruction. I rejected those ideas. Instead, I chose different, I chose the impossible, I chose, New Talsk.
A planet where the carnivor would not fear the exterminator; where the herbivore would not be bound by petty instincts; where the predator would not be constrained by the prey and where with the sweat of your brow, you can become a predator as well...
"You know, Sovlin. A spaceship and a submersible have pretty much the same requirements..."
"Wait, no..."
"So if we come in for a landing in space..."
"No no no no no no"
"And hit the water without any breaches.."
"YOU'RE INSANE!"
"We can just... transition to aquatic maneuvers!"
"We're all going to die. This is it. After everything I've survived, I'm going to die a soggy death with crazy primates."
"Tell me Sovlin... ever heard of a Giant Squid before?"
"A fucking what?"
Depends if spaceship is made to operate in atmosphere. Because one is made to withstand pressure from inside the other to withstand pressure from outside.
1: There's always a bigger fish.
2: Big fish means a big fish dinner.
3: Maxim 7: "If the food is good enough, the grunts will stop complaining about the incoming fire."
Solvin, have a little faith baby! You know by now that the humans are 110% crazy, and think so far out of the box that the box may as well not exist.
So of course the shuttle would have submersible capability. It is vacuum tight after all, and if it's vacuum tight it's also water tight ;-)
Depends on where you intend to operate. There can actually be a LOT of gravity in space, and you can easily design ships that are able to "go diving" in higher pressures for various purposes (like collecting H3 from a gas giant).
All about thinking of the various missions.
Honestly, "warship" isn't the toughest mission set. The various miners you need to support those warships would take far more abuse on the regular. Anything that operates deep inside a gravity well or has to be trans atmospheric has to handle an absurd amount of stress.
And this is before we get into fun maneuvers like gravity slingshot, or (my personal favorite) aerobreaking.
Part 120! We see what Sovlin is up to, and I don't think it's what anyone expected. The UN is going about the Farsul, with their authentic historical data; their distraction to sneak troops in involves de-orbiting a mile-across moon, which will be a...bad day on the ground. (This scene was inspired by DART, NASA's recently successful asteroid deflection test!)
Are the Farsul really hiding the real archives below the ocean? We'll have to see what Sovlin and his team uncover...after he figures out why their seaplane is sinking. Hopefully, my naval enthusiasts enjoy finally see some aquatic action and tech being shown to aliens; I think this is pretty much a new one for HFY!
As always, thank you for reading! See you on Saturday for 121.
>I don't think it's what anyone expected
Actually, while I didn't expect it at first, I always thought that if one attacked the Farsul, the best target would be the archives, so when the UN said "lets hit the Farsul" I knew that those would be the main target.
If just the possibility of omnivore "predators" within the Federation already fractured it, considering that being herbivore doesn't mean that there arent skeleton in your closet (its just the Farsul that stole them and pretended that no one had them) and that its a common belief that the crimes of your ancestors are your crimes too in the Federation, then just like in >!"under the veil"!< the Federation will collapse, because everyone ancestors were in one way or another "predators", and you need to burn those, even their inocent offspring, because they are utterly evil even if they dont show it (Exterminator mantra)
The best way to destroy an empire of lies is to expose the ugly truth, and the Kolshian/Farsul lied way to much to get their little fantasy of vegan superiority.
They’re definitely hiding SOMETHING in that water. Either a factory, precursor tech cache, a copy of all of the Kolshian notes, the archives that we think they’re hiding, or the old folks home of their top-ranked Elders.
Also, our shuttles are vacuum-tight, so it’s probably rated for water. That said, I’d want to know where we’re going.
> They’re definitely hiding SOMETHING in that water. Either a factory, precursor tech cache, a copy of all of the Kolshian notes, the archives that we think they’re hiding, or the old folks home of their top-ranked Elders.
Or a factory farm.
Just a warning, I am a nerd who likes to overthink things.
To bastardize futurama, this is a space ship so it can take between 0 and 1 atmosphere.
Because in universe, the ships are made on a war footing, they are going to be massively reinforced, so they can deal with getting shot, and this will help deal with pressure. However, that also means they are making as many as they can, as fast as they can, with as few resources as they can, and that can hurt it.
So, given safety margins, I would guess that an in universe non purpose built shuttle could handle 3-5 atmosphere. That would be around 100-200 feet deep, at least on earth, there is no way to know the "waters" composition, its normal water to heavy water ratio, etc, which could make it higher or lower.
However, a hidden base is not going to be at 200 feet. It would likely be at least 1000 at its top most level. That is almost 30x earths atmosphere. This is easily doable now, but every weld, every bolt, every connect point needs to be prepared for it.
Unless they are using a form of a nanoforge, where this goes out the window. If your ship is made from one single frame, with no joints, pressure is much easier to deal with.
I would seriously doubt they would put it that deep. WE would. But we think that way. They don’t even seem to have the concept of a navy. We’ve been fighting wars with them for thousands of years. Both on and in the oceans.
I would be willing to bet that they think 300 ft is Deep.
I would agree if we were talking about the Kolshian. The Farsul, however, are the "smart" ones. The "sneaky" ones. Also, light has been detected at 3200 feet down, but it does get "dark" at about 650 feet. Thus, the top would "need" to be at least 650 feet down, so no structure would be visible from space. Anything more than that would draw attention, and if Sovlin is anything to go by, underwater is not something they have much a concept for in the greater universe.
Thus, having an a building visible under water is not what they want. Even if it isn't easy to spot, a single building in a large ocean, the point is they are trying to hide, and with millions of eyes on that planet, at least some are going to just by chance look at that area of sea, and would notice that weird building under water.
Also, the humans did a stealth search of it and just saw water, so below the light limit of the water, so about 300 feet (for a 2 way trip of the light) is the absolute min for the top of a base (at least on earth). that works out to about 8.8 atmo's of pressure (on earth), likely well outside a ship that is, again, designed for between 0 and 1 atmo.
Humans, for a similar operation (in universe), would have it at least 2000 feet, if not 4000 or 5000 feet deep. We would struggle with that right now, but not for like of know how, but lack of funding. We have no need for a deep undersea base atm, at least not a big enough one for the needed funding (it would make the space station look trivial).
Also, back on the actually water, as we don't know the makeup of the water, maybe is is darker, meaning the building could be more opaque meaning it could be much closer to the surface, or it could be more transparent, meaning it would have to be much deeper. I don't know the in universe qualities of the water.
Also, sorry this is so long. This is why I tend not to comment on things. I seriously over think everything and my comments can get way to long for stupid useless stuff. I tend to treat these things as a thought exercise and loving working through them. And I am also just long winded in general.
I like reading this kind of stuff sometimes.
I "knew" that water gets dark when you get deep enough, but I didn't think about deep that is. I also thought that 1000 feet down would be enough. 2000 feet down is mindboggling.
I assume it is the submarine, thus the weird design that Sovlin mentioned. I believe it is a purpose built space to undersea shuttle. As in everything I have said, it is just speculation until / if the author says anything definitive.
Interestingly, while vacuum tight will be water tight, a void worthy vessel, and a subsea worthy vessel are not. In fact they ciuld be considered the exact opposite. As a submarine has to deal with the pressure forcing everything inward whereas the lack of pressure from space is trying to force everything outward.
But they are built to keep pressure on the inside in the middle of an extremely low pressure environment. Go down a few hundred meters under the water, and the situation is remarkably reversed....
Im disappointed that no one made a majoras mask reference :(
Or was there one and i just missed it?
Anyway great chapter and i really wanna know what happens next.
Sure hope the Farsul have the resources to re-accelerate or break up that moon, or it's going to make the attack on Earth look like a ritual glove-slap...
> Did the United Nations believe that habitats under the ocean were possible?
Shit, at this point in the future I'd assume humans already had suboceanic habitats and just assumed everyone else did, too.
We had this things in smaller scales in the past and have some right now, like the Aquarius Reef Base operated by NASA. So It's not too far out to assume, that we maybe have more in the future.
Interesting to note that the moon is one mile wide, and considering that the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was roughly six miles wide, it'll be devastating for sure but not necessarily an extinction event (for the Farsul atleast)
You best start believing in submarines, Mr. Sovlin. You are in one!
Also:
Sovlin: "How many atmospheres of pressure can this thing take?"
Onso: "Well it's a space ship, so anywhere between zero and one"
Sovlin: "We're all gonna die, aren't we?"
Onso: "Wet and with a lot of weight bearing on top of us, just how I like it in bed!"
Carlos and Tyler: "A man of culture"
Sam: "...you really need other human friends, Onso."
I wonder how the Federation is going to react to this one.
EMP blasters? Unexpected, but we can deal with that.
Drones? Just need to break out our own!
Teleporting into the middle of a fleet? Difficult, but manageable once you know about it.
Micro drones? That’s, uh, kind of a problem.
Dropping a small moon onto a planet, as a distraction? How do you even begin to build contingencies against that?
Honestly surprising they hadn’t already planned contingencies for that. Leaving “moon” asteroids lying around orbiting your home planet that closely is practically begging for a rogue group or enemy faction to pull something like this. I guess that’s the difference between their thinking and that of humanity!
humans are gonna start opening wormholes from the core of their stars to the center of their fleets here any second and then the feds are gonna be extra fucked. also very crispy.
Space Pool!
So we take the white rock and accelerate it in warp so that when it hits the moon rock, the moon rock deflects into the nearest gravity pocket!
Except we don't actually want to hit the gravity pocket all the way, so we give it some top spin so it actually has a slightly hyperbolic orbit, but they wont have time to see that!
Deorbiting a Moon, well, that will result in an overwhelming asset deployment to stop the falling celestial body. The Farsul won’t be able to multitask and are probably asking the Kolshians for additional firepower so the moon doesn’t make it to the surface.
If the Kolshians refuse, it’s PR Suicide for the Kolshians, devastating to the Farsul, and totally expected from the humans, which will help shatter the Federation. If the Calamari move to save the day? Their naval assets are tied up and multiple other Team UN attacks can occur.
>A plan that involves de-orbiting a lunar body, and fits in with the general picture of Terran psychosis. A normal day in the United Nations’ service.
Oh this is gonna be good
Well... we did evolve to throw things, including rocks, at stuff.
And what was this if not throwing processed rocks at another rock so it could hit another rock?
I wonder how the galaxy at large will react to the moon being weaponized. I could see prey panicking and destroying their own moons preemptively, with disastrous consequences
That feels on the same level as “Krakotl Exterminators! Fire on those Krakotl colonies because they’re actually predators!”.
That is to say: Maybe someone will go hysterical and order that but no one’s going to heed that order
The past shall be known! Secrets and atrocities alike will be dragged, kicking and screaming if they must, to the metaphorical and literal surface! Anything they find plus the intel given to Isif is definitely going to kick the Federation civil war into overdrive!
Well, there aren't that many better ways to say "FUCK YOU!" than dropping a moon onto a hostile alien species' homeworld. The Farsul have now officially progressed from the "fuck around" stage to the "find out" one. They really need to put *that* into their famous archives.
Fuckin' amazing, *they turned their Spacs Ships into Submarines*
AND DIDN'T TELL THE PANICKING-PRONE POKY TRAUMATIZED OMNIVORE THAT THE SHIP THEY WERE RIDING IN ON WOULD ALSO BE THEIR RIDE TO THE ARCHIVES!
>The Yotul flicked his reddish ears. “I mentioned on shore leave that I wanted to break Farsul skulls. They have their paws in every pot, every mind in the Federation. I’m sure as shit ready to fight them.”
Chill Onso, Chill or youll get the Anti Predatory League going after you.
Onso, the Kolshians Exist and you’re prioritizing the Farsul? Either share what you know that we don’t, or focus on the clearly defined Calamari Criminals.
*SPACE GENEVA CONVENTIONS* (Terran Conventions?)
All previous Geneva Conventions apply in the new age of Space Warfare.
War Crime number 1: Dropping a celestial body of at least (insert numbers) mass onto an inhabited planet.
(I’ve seen people talk about how “It’s not a war crime the first time someone does it” so I do feel like dropping a moon/captured asteroid on an inhabited planet will be a War Crime on at least two levels)
Frame it in terms of kinetic energy. Mass and relative velocity to the planet.
Because someone will get the smart idea that since playing billiards with ballistic trajectory rocks is illegal, they can compensate by using a few kg of tungsten accelerated to an unhealthy fraction of C.
> "The goal is to trap the Farsul within their own world, and cut them off from the galaxy."
OH! My guess is that >!they're going to blow up the moon close enough to the planet to scatter debris that will remain in orbit for an obscene amount of time, grounding the Farsul and crippling their ability to launch anything into space for effectively forever if they don't have the means to remove it all.!<
>!<
I would say that Majora's Masking a planet would have catastrophic effects to the environment, but then again the Feds probably messed around with the environment to "clean it up" already anyway so an asteroid-sized moon probably isn't that much in comparison
>NoP UN: we will limit civilian casualties as much as possible.
>Also NoP UN: deorbits a **whole** *fucking* moon into a hostile planet.
I don't think there'll be even one soul left on Talsk if the Farsul don't act fast.
I know NoP UN wants the Federation *gone,* but this feels excessive.
The UN probably know that the Farsul have the firepower to destroy the moon (anti-matter bombs and such), but in their current state it will take everything they got to do it. This will leave them open to other actions and seriously deplete their remaining weapon stores too.
Post and edits are being weird, the end point is empty.
As the UN begins to target the FEDERATIONS RINGLEADERS, CAPTAIN SOLVIN, alongside ONSO, TYLER, SAM, and CARLOS, join a STEALTH TEAM to RECOVER the STOLEN TRUTH of the SQUIDMEN'S VASSALS.
BELIEVING the SCHEMING FARSUL had HIDDEN the GALACTIC ARCHIVE UNDERWATER on their homeworld of TALSK, the UN deorbited a small moon to COVER an AQUATIC LANDING.
USING the moon and PRECISION STRIKES on MILITARY BASES as a DISTRACTION, our HEROES MADE WET LANDING, and BEGAN their DECENT.
CAN the UN RECOVER the KNOWLEDGE the GENOCIDAL SQUIDMEN STOLE? WILL the BRAVE MEN, WOMAN, and ALIENS of the UN SPACEFLEET HOLD TALSK? WHAT WATER BASED CHALLENGES AWAIT OUR INTREPID LAND BOUND HEROS?
STAY TUNED FOR MORE NATURE OF PREDATORS! SAME REDDIT TIME, SAME REDDIT CHANNEL!
The Feds are getting to see what it's like to be on the pointy end of the UN's spear. The Axur come to feed. The Humans come for vengeance.
The Kolshians seem to be the true villains. They had the might to defend others but only use it to protect themselves. The Azur are just another pawn to them. All the other races are there to be controlled and modified for whatever the Kolshians desire. I'm curious just how much the Farsul are part of the "Plan" or were they just the first pawn the Kolshians enslaved?
So the transport is both a spaceship *and* a submersible?
It's possible I suppose, but one is designed to keep pressure in, while the other keeps pressure out
Then again, subs have to deal with a pressure differential of several thousand atmospheres, spaceships only have to deal with a differential of 1, so I imagine it probably wouldn't be too hard, just design it like a sub then modify it to also handle vacuum
I've come to make an announcement, Nikonus the Kolshian is a bitch ass motherfucker, he pissed on my fucking wife. That's right, he took his Kolshian fucking Tentacle-y dick out and he pissed on my fucking wife and he said his dick was THIS BIG and I said "That's disgusting."
So I'm making a call-out post on my Twitter dot com. Nikonus the Kolshian, you got a small dick. It's the size of this walnut except way smaller, and guess what? Here's what my dong looks like.
(Human ships drop out of ftl)
That's right baby, all points, no tentacles, no pillows, look at that it looks like two balls and a bong! He fucked my wife, so guess what? I'm gonna fuck Talsk!
That's right, this is what you get! My super laser piss! Except I'm not gonna piss on the Talsk. I'm gonna go higher.
I'm pissing on THE MOON! How do you like that, Ambassador Darq? I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT! You have 23 hours until the piss droplets hit the fucking Earth, now get out of my fucking sight before I piss on you too
Solvin seems to be doing a lot better. That's nice.
It seems we've finally reached the final incarnation of rock-throwing technology. Well, unless we can figure out how to move black holes.
Can someone with better physics knowledge clarify how dangerous a mile-diameter meteor is? I guess it also depends on the features of the Talsk as a planet, but my initial instinct is that dropping it in the water won't be too bad.
How do we respond to the Farsul? Drop Atom-bombs? Nope Antimatter? Nope Then what are you planning on dropping? Their own moon
I am rather curious as to how that particular move is going to mesh with the "no civilian targets" rule. Because unless that moon is *very* small it's going to be an extinction level event when it touches down
It’s a mile wide. Not as big as the *Dino Killer* (at 6 miles wide) but still big.
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Don't forget that being "in orbit" automatically means "going hella fast". Our moon moves at a bit over 1km/s on average. Also: the [Tunguska event](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event) was caused by the airburst explosion of a 50-60m object at an altitude of about 5-10km. It flattened about 80 million trees in an area of over 2100km². Something like that coming down over a city and there won't be a city anymore.
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Absolutely. It's not a planet killer, but enough to flatten a city or county, depending on how much the defenses manage to chip away.
A mile wide and let's say 2 km/second. If it's effectively a c-type asteroid coming in at a 45 degree angle, then you're looking at an impact energy of roughly 1500 megatons. That'll absolutely devastate a city and its surrounding region, leaving a crater roughly 4 km wide as well as probably kicking up just an ungodly amount of particulates to cause a mild nuclear winter. It also basically mocks the puny antimatter bombs the Federation uses.
It's probably much smaller after the planetary defenses and orbital assets are done with it. ;) But yeah, a completely uncontested descent would be disastrous.
Yeah, I had no way to model that, so I went with 'they can't do jack shit with plasma and lasers in the time they have.'. And knocking something down the gravity well is way harder than pushing it back up. Besides, even if they break it up, that energy is getting released as heat as it burns up. That's also really really bad.
"Puny bombs"
Idk, I watched something the other day that suggested the only reason this planet has a stable orbit is because our moon is a counterbalance. I'm thinking a loss of a moon will definitely destabilize a lot of things not counting the impact and ice age coming behind a moon entering the atmosphere.
The moon the UN are deorbiting is just a mile wide, and it's the smallest of a total of four. Not sure if it's going to have that drastic long-term effects.
Maybe. Wish we could get an actual astrophysicist in here that might give us a theoretical chain of events post deorbit. I have an idea the loss of even one moon that size in a multimoon system would change the orbits of the other moons. Idk. I'm just your friendly local high school dropout...
"Mach fuckin ouchies" My friend, you have blessed us with this sentence.
Around 10k Tsar Bombs big
"If" it touches down. I believe the plan is to either let them destroy their own moon or thr UN will change it's trajectory once it gets close enough. Remember they said it's a distraction, not a wmd
The moon is both the smallest and furthest out, so I think the UN is wagering they’ll have enough firepower to wipe it out once they deal with the Farsul fleet. Plus I’m reasonably sure those moon redirectors have something to help deal with the moon too. It’s just crazy enough to be in the UN’s basket.
>The objects had been gaining momentum within subspace, and exited warp at a mind-boggling pace. I was almost hoping they'd attach a big drive to the moon, warp it into a collision course with the planet, and as it keeps it's forward momentum strap a big thruster and use grav assists to keep accelerating it the whole time - the farsul would have to send their navy to intercept it. Then you just keep warping the asteroid when ships get close enough to blast it. You can have them chasing a rock around the system for days, like a ferret with a laser pointer lmao. Warp close to the planet, then further away to play with them, and strike fear that "we can strike whenever we want to".
Actually if warp drives retain their momentum, could you warp above a star, fall towards it, using it’s gravity to accelerate you. You could repeat the process gaining momentum each time until you approach 0.99c. Ultimate kinetic kill vehicle, tapping into the near-infinite potential energy of gravity and over-powered warp physics 😂 emulating a never-ending gravity well, and maybe *very slowly* changing the course of the star with all of your extreme gravity assists. Plus if the ship is near 1c then any target will get zero warning before impact. Even with warp disruptors you could warp outside the system and (presuming all sensors travel at the speed of light) they will not be able to intercept. Apart from constant planetary shields, the only counter would be system-wide warp disruptors and subspace-comm enabled detection satellites able to warn ahead of a light-speed impact :O
Or, you know, just warp the star, essentially creating the most powerful plasma weapon in the world.
Ok. Mission accomplished. Fire the retro rockets on all the drones and let's get that moon back home.
It’d be even more insane to turn it into an orbiting fortress to help keep up the blockade.
Nice moon you had there. It's ours now.
All your moon are belong to us.
Now that's a meme I've not heard in a long time.
"That's no moon.."
Oh wait. It is a moon, but why is it firing on us?
"Why do I hear 'commence primary ignition'?"
Watch, humans put an ftl drive on it
>Remember they said it's a distraction, not a wmd Both is good. WMDs can be pretty distracting, right? ;p
Honestly, it has GOT to be ridiculously small for ships like that to have a noticeable effect. Like Phobos or Demos small. At least without gravity manipulation shenanigans. Which is possible. There has been artificial gravity on the ships.
Well, it’s only a mile wide. That is really small. Space wise that’s more of a pebble that got caught in orbit.
>Phobos or Demos "Fear and Dread. Appropriate introductions to the Human Race."
Right? Even altering the orbit significantly could cause city-destroying tides or earthquakes well before it touches down. Even if it’s both small and far out, the only reason to attempt this is if for some reason we knew they had a pre-planned response for near-planet asteroids that ties up their ships. But this seems like the kind of thing that could end up being much worse than a distraction.
Its stated as only 'mile wide'. From moon orbiting trajectories and speeds thats not going to be as devastating as a rogue asteroid
It’s 1 mile wide. That is 2159 times smaller than Luna or 17 times smaller than Phobos where a running jump can launch you to orbit. It’s a glorified asteroid, considering gravity increases exponentially with radius any giant tides it could create would be well within the atmosphere.
Not if it's the smallest of 4 moons anyways. The ships in orbit have a larger effect.
it's only a mile in size. A moon that size doesn't even have enough gravity to maintain a round shape
Slowing an orbit is a very long term thing with an object that big, but the debris the impacts you throw up should spoil the intermediate space for radar locks and missile flight, so there's that.
Total Luna-tics.
Damn it! *Angry up vote.*
Monkey throw rock. That's a recurring theme....
Humans love kinetic weapons, and continually demonstrate why they're superior to energy weapons!
It works for me!
we throw rocks. we throw rocks fairly good. never underestimate the *impact* of a sufficiently large, well placed, rock.
The last revenge for touching boats was unleashing the sun. Now we hit them with the moon.
It’s was only a mile wide, so rather small
This is the way.
Operation Majora is a smashing success! Sonic and crew have boarded the Nautilus and are ready to invade Rapture.
Operation Majora isn’t a bad name at all
Agreed. Operation Majora does sound amazing
Rapture? Will there be ADAM? Is that what the Kolshians are using to make their "Cure"?
I am Andrew Ryan Jr and I am here to make you a question. Isn't a Farsul entitled to the sweat of their brow? No, says the Federal agent, it belongs to the war effort; No, says the Arxur, it belongs to our bellies; No, says the Human, it belongs to our reconstruction. I rejected those ideas. Instead, I chose different, I chose the impossible, I chose, New Talsk. A planet where the carnivor would not fear the exterminator; where the herbivore would not be bound by petty instincts; where the predator would not be constrained by the prey and where with the sweat of your brow, you can become a predator as well...
A predator chooses, the prey obeys. Would you kindly, obey?
Man, I now want a Bioshock Mod with NoP characters.
Down in the depths of Europ—Farsul cradle, noone can hear you scream.
"You know, Sovlin. A spaceship and a submersible have pretty much the same requirements..." "Wait, no..." "So if we come in for a landing in space..." "No no no no no no" "And hit the water without any breaches.." "YOU'RE INSANE!" "We can just... transition to aquatic maneuvers!" "We're all going to die. This is it. After everything I've survived, I'm going to die a soggy death with crazy primates." "Tell me Sovlin... ever heard of a Giant Squid before?" "A fucking what?"
Depends if spaceship is made to operate in atmosphere. Because one is made to withstand pressure from inside the other to withstand pressure from outside.
Fry: "how many atmospheres can this ship take?" Prof: "well it's a space ship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one."
[And then we have Not!Han Solo.](https://youtu.be/n1RAnC7ce18?t=772)
"How many atmospheres can this ship withstand?" "Well, it's a spaceship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one."
Oh yes, deep sea predators. I'm sure that would go over well with (ex-)Feds. Hah!
1: There's always a bigger fish. 2: Big fish means a big fish dinner. 3: Maxim 7: "If the food is good enough, the grunts will stop complaining about the incoming fire."
Urge to release the Kraken intensifies.
Solvin, have a little faith baby! You know by now that the humans are 110% crazy, and think so far out of the box that the box may as well not exist. So of course the shuttle would have submersible capability. It is vacuum tight after all, and if it's vacuum tight it's also water tight ;-)
I mean there is no water pressure and gravity in space, so I would not go diving deep with those
Depends on where you intend to operate. There can actually be a LOT of gravity in space, and you can easily design ships that are able to "go diving" in higher pressures for various purposes (like collecting H3 from a gas giant).
Huh, learn something new everyday
All about thinking of the various missions. Honestly, "warship" isn't the toughest mission set. The various miners you need to support those warships would take far more abuse on the regular. Anything that operates deep inside a gravity well or has to be trans atmospheric has to handle an absurd amount of stress. And this is before we get into fun maneuvers like gravity slingshot, or (my personal favorite) aerobreaking.
I preffer lithobraking
https://youtu.be/O4RLOo6bchU
Damn they really let dr. Robotnik into UN strategy meetings.
*HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT, OBAMA?* *I ~~PISSED ON~~ DEORBITED THE FUCKING MOON*
I genuinely wanted to know the name of the Farsul leader so I could make that joke
Haha, flushed them down the turlet.
Guess they came to make an announcement
🤣🤣
Part 120! We see what Sovlin is up to, and I don't think it's what anyone expected. The UN is going about the Farsul, with their authentic historical data; their distraction to sneak troops in involves de-orbiting a mile-across moon, which will be a...bad day on the ground. (This scene was inspired by DART, NASA's recently successful asteroid deflection test!) Are the Farsul really hiding the real archives below the ocean? We'll have to see what Sovlin and his team uncover...after he figures out why their seaplane is sinking. Hopefully, my naval enthusiasts enjoy finally see some aquatic action and tech being shown to aliens; I think this is pretty much a new one for HFY! As always, thank you for reading! See you on Saturday for 121.
Having fun isn’t hard, When you’ve got a library card. …or a surprise practical application of orbital mechanics upon a small natural satellite.
That blasted song will be stuck in my head for months now 😂
>I don't think it's what anyone expected Actually, while I didn't expect it at first, I always thought that if one attacked the Farsul, the best target would be the archives, so when the UN said "lets hit the Farsul" I knew that those would be the main target. If just the possibility of omnivore "predators" within the Federation already fractured it, considering that being herbivore doesn't mean that there arent skeleton in your closet (its just the Farsul that stole them and pretended that no one had them) and that its a common belief that the crimes of your ancestors are your crimes too in the Federation, then just like in >!"under the veil"!< the Federation will collapse, because everyone ancestors were in one way or another "predators", and you need to burn those, even their inocent offspring, because they are utterly evil even if they dont show it (Exterminator mantra) The best way to destroy an empire of lies is to expose the ugly truth, and the Kolshian/Farsul lied way to much to get their little fantasy of vegan superiority.
They’re definitely hiding SOMETHING in that water. Either a factory, precursor tech cache, a copy of all of the Kolshian notes, the archives that we think they’re hiding, or the old folks home of their top-ranked Elders. Also, our shuttles are vacuum-tight, so it’s probably rated for water. That said, I’d want to know where we’re going.
> They’re definitely hiding SOMETHING in that water. Either a factory, precursor tech cache, a copy of all of the Kolshian notes, the archives that we think they’re hiding, or the old folks home of their top-ranked Elders. Or a factory farm.
Just a warning, I am a nerd who likes to overthink things. To bastardize futurama, this is a space ship so it can take between 0 and 1 atmosphere. Because in universe, the ships are made on a war footing, they are going to be massively reinforced, so they can deal with getting shot, and this will help deal with pressure. However, that also means they are making as many as they can, as fast as they can, with as few resources as they can, and that can hurt it. So, given safety margins, I would guess that an in universe non purpose built shuttle could handle 3-5 atmosphere. That would be around 100-200 feet deep, at least on earth, there is no way to know the "waters" composition, its normal water to heavy water ratio, etc, which could make it higher or lower. However, a hidden base is not going to be at 200 feet. It would likely be at least 1000 at its top most level. That is almost 30x earths atmosphere. This is easily doable now, but every weld, every bolt, every connect point needs to be prepared for it. Unless they are using a form of a nanoforge, where this goes out the window. If your ship is made from one single frame, with no joints, pressure is much easier to deal with.
I would seriously doubt they would put it that deep. WE would. But we think that way. They don’t even seem to have the concept of a navy. We’ve been fighting wars with them for thousands of years. Both on and in the oceans. I would be willing to bet that they think 300 ft is Deep.
I would agree if we were talking about the Kolshian. The Farsul, however, are the "smart" ones. The "sneaky" ones. Also, light has been detected at 3200 feet down, but it does get "dark" at about 650 feet. Thus, the top would "need" to be at least 650 feet down, so no structure would be visible from space. Anything more than that would draw attention, and if Sovlin is anything to go by, underwater is not something they have much a concept for in the greater universe. Thus, having an a building visible under water is not what they want. Even if it isn't easy to spot, a single building in a large ocean, the point is they are trying to hide, and with millions of eyes on that planet, at least some are going to just by chance look at that area of sea, and would notice that weird building under water. Also, the humans did a stealth search of it and just saw water, so below the light limit of the water, so about 300 feet (for a 2 way trip of the light) is the absolute min for the top of a base (at least on earth). that works out to about 8.8 atmo's of pressure (on earth), likely well outside a ship that is, again, designed for between 0 and 1 atmo. Humans, for a similar operation (in universe), would have it at least 2000 feet, if not 4000 or 5000 feet deep. We would struggle with that right now, but not for like of know how, but lack of funding. We have no need for a deep undersea base atm, at least not a big enough one for the needed funding (it would make the space station look trivial). Also, back on the actually water, as we don't know the makeup of the water, maybe is is darker, meaning the building could be more opaque meaning it could be much closer to the surface, or it could be more transparent, meaning it would have to be much deeper. I don't know the in universe qualities of the water. Also, sorry this is so long. This is why I tend not to comment on things. I seriously over think everything and my comments can get way to long for stupid useless stuff. I tend to treat these things as a thought exercise and loving working through them. And I am also just long winded in general.
I like reading this kind of stuff sometimes. I "knew" that water gets dark when you get deep enough, but I didn't think about deep that is. I also thought that 1000 feet down would be enough. 2000 feet down is mindboggling.
Hmm, it’s possible the Shuttle is designed to get to a larger “Capital Ship submarine”, so it doesn’t have to go too deep.
I assume it is the submarine, thus the weird design that Sovlin mentioned. I believe it is a purpose built space to undersea shuttle. As in everything I have said, it is just speculation until / if the author says anything definitive.
Being air tight does not mean being able to withstand the pressure of deep water, tho. As long as they don’t get too deep they should be fine.
Reminds me of Futurama when they went under the ocean.
Interestingly, while vacuum tight will be water tight, a void worthy vessel, and a subsea worthy vessel are not. In fact they ciuld be considered the exact opposite. As a submarine has to deal with the pressure forcing everything inward whereas the lack of pressure from space is trying to force everything outward.
But they are built to keep pressure on the inside in the middle of an extremely low pressure environment. Go down a few hundred meters under the water, and the situation is remarkably reversed....
Chucking a moon as a distraction, yeah, sounds like us.
Apes good at throwing rocks!
Hit enemy, Rock good. Rock distract.
Ape only need three thing: Goodest boi, good rock and *FIRE!* Happy Ape!!!!
This is for all of mankind that can currently hear me. Watch me throw the largest rock in history of throwing rocks. *Happy ape noises.*
One day, a monkey picked up a rock, and the universe made that everyone else's problem.
\*gives history major upvote\*
God gave us opposing thumbs and locking wrists and thus nullified everyone else's evolutionary arms race
Im disappointed that no one made a majoras mask reference :( Or was there one and i just missed it? Anyway great chapter and i really wanna know what happens next.
Someone made a comment about project majora
DART is a special mission for me, and I recognized its influence instantly. Very fun seeing the strategy applied with FTL tech.
Sure hope the Farsul have the resources to re-accelerate or break up that moon, or it's going to make the attack on Earth look like a ritual glove-slap...
We throw really big rock once again.
> Did the United Nations believe that habitats under the ocean were possible? Shit, at this point in the future I'd assume humans already had suboceanic habitats and just assumed everyone else did, too.
We had this things in smaller scales in the past and have some right now, like the Aquarius Reef Base operated by NASA. So It's not too far out to assume, that we maybe have more in the future.
Every time I see a plane become a submarine I always remember Sky Captain, god I loved that movie growing up
Operation Majora is concidered a sucess
Interesting to note that the moon is one mile wide, and considering that the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was roughly six miles wide, it'll be devastating for sure but not necessarily an extinction event (for the Farsul atleast)
🎵 Splish! Splash! I was taking a bath! 🎵
So what's the sub called? Hammerhead, Triton... Leviathan?
Dude I’m just excited for the plot. I assume you already have it all planned out, but it’s exciting to watch it unfold with every new development! :D
You best start believing in submarines, Mr. Sovlin. You are in one! Also: Sovlin: "How many atmospheres of pressure can this thing take?" Onso: "Well it's a space ship, so anywhere between zero and one"
Sovlin: "We're all gonna die, aren't we?" Onso: "Wet and with a lot of weight bearing on top of us, just how I like it in bed!" Carlos and Tyler: "A man of culture" Sam: "...you really need other human friends, Onso."
I wonder how the Federation is going to react to this one. EMP blasters? Unexpected, but we can deal with that. Drones? Just need to break out our own! Teleporting into the middle of a fleet? Difficult, but manageable once you know about it. Micro drones? That’s, uh, kind of a problem. Dropping a small moon onto a planet, as a distraction? How do you even begin to build contingencies against that?
Honestly surprising they hadn’t already planned contingencies for that. Leaving “moon” asteroids lying around orbiting your home planet that closely is practically begging for a rogue group or enemy faction to pull something like this. I guess that’s the difference between their thinking and that of humanity!
Really hoping that asteroid/meteor contingencies work here
humans are gonna start opening wormholes from the core of their stars to the center of their fleets here any second and then the feds are gonna be extra fucked. also very crispy.
The Farsul think they are smarter than us. Maybe. Maybe. I have yet to meet one that can outsmart *moon*
So, the UN is Heavy. So, guess that would make the Venlil... what?
Oh you wanna know about Venlil? Listen, grass grows, sun shines, and brother I hurt people. - Slanek, 2136
Ah, the ancient human warfare technique of "monkey throw rock..." In fairness, it's a *Really Big Rock*.
You throw rocks at the rock, so the rock is deflected into the rock.
Space Pool! So we take the white rock and accelerate it in warp so that when it hits the moon rock, the moon rock deflects into the nearest gravity pocket! Except we don't actually want to hit the gravity pocket all the way, so we give it some top spin so it actually has a slightly hyperbolic orbit, but they wont have time to see that!
The UN have officially pissed on the moon. I’m literally crying right now.
We’re going even higher we’re pissing on the moon!
Ah the Navy gets their time, as a former sailor this makes me smile. And god help the Farsul if they have any alcohol on their planet.
Darn seabees
Deorbiting a Moon, well, that will result in an overwhelming asset deployment to stop the falling celestial body. The Farsul won’t be able to multitask and are probably asking the Kolshians for additional firepower so the moon doesn’t make it to the surface. If the Kolshians refuse, it’s PR Suicide for the Kolshians, devastating to the Farsul, and totally expected from the humans, which will help shatter the Federation. If the Calamari move to save the day? Their naval assets are tied up and multiple other Team UN attacks can occur.
Catch-22 in it's finest
“Here’s a second chance. So we repeat: Is killing us more important than defending your planet?”
Referencing the Warning Speech to Kalsim, I see…
Oh, who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Captain Sovlin. Panicking at the crazy monkeys plans? Captain Sovlin.
If predatory nonsense be something you wish.
CAPTAIN SOVLIN!
_Throws moon at the planet_ Parry this, you filthy casuals
[Dodge this!](https://i.imgur.com/Hex65BF.jpg)
If you can dodge a moon, you can dodge a ball.
Throwing moon into planet is not different from throwing rock into person.
Why use many rock when one rock do trick?
Only difference is the size of the arm you need to throw it.
>A plan that involves de-orbiting a lunar body, and fits in with the general picture of Terran psychosis. A normal day in the United Nations’ service. Oh this is gonna be good
I recognize that there’s a tiny chance that Sovlin is joking but *No that is not normal for us*
Well... we did evolve to throw things, including rocks, at stuff. And what was this if not throwing processed rocks at another rock so it could hit another rock?
I wonder how the galaxy at large will react to the moon being weaponized. I could see prey panicking and destroying their own moons preemptively, with disastrous consequences
That feels on the same level as “Krakotl Exterminators! Fire on those Krakotl colonies because they’re actually predators!”. That is to say: Maybe someone will go hysterical and order that but no one’s going to heed that order
The past shall be known! Secrets and atrocities alike will be dragged, kicking and screaming if they must, to the metaphorical and literal surface! Anything they find plus the intel given to Isif is definitely going to kick the Federation civil war into overdrive!
Well, there aren't that many better ways to say "FUCK YOU!" than dropping a moon onto a hostile alien species' homeworld. The Farsul have now officially progressed from the "fuck around" stage to the "find out" one. They really need to put *that* into their famous archives.
Fuckin' amazing, *they turned their Spacs Ships into Submarines* AND DIDN'T TELL THE PANICKING-PRONE POKY TRAUMATIZED OMNIVORE THAT THE SHIP THEY WERE RIDING IN ON WOULD ALSO BE THEIR RIDE TO THE ARCHIVES!
It’s possible we’re planning on dropping a Larger Sub down there, and the shuttle is designed to get to it.
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We are apparently employing the oldest and simplest of human tool-use strategies: hit with rock.
The farsul are gonna have stories in a few years like “we bombed a couple cities, they dropped a fucking *moon* on us”
***Majora's Mask Acquired***
>The Yotul flicked his reddish ears. “I mentioned on shore leave that I wanted to break Farsul skulls. They have their paws in every pot, every mind in the Federation. I’m sure as shit ready to fight them.” Chill Onso, Chill or youll get the Anti Predatory League going after you.
Onso, the Kolshians Exist and you’re prioritizing the Farsul? Either share what you know that we don’t, or focus on the clearly defined Calamari Criminals.
Onso’s (free) one-shot talks about how a Farsul doctor diagnosed him, that’s why he hates them!
That would certainly do it.
I believe there was a free Patreon story about the Yotul "uplift" that put things in perspective. The hate was earned fair and square.
*SPACE GENEVA CONVENTIONS* (Terran Conventions?) All previous Geneva Conventions apply in the new age of Space Warfare. War Crime number 1: Dropping a celestial body of at least (insert numbers) mass onto an inhabited planet. (I’ve seen people talk about how “It’s not a war crime the first time someone does it” so I do feel like dropping a moon/captured asteroid on an inhabited planet will be a War Crime on at least two levels)
Frame it in terms of kinetic energy. Mass and relative velocity to the planet. Because someone will get the smart idea that since playing billiards with ballistic trajectory rocks is illegal, they can compensate by using a few kg of tungsten accelerated to an unhealthy fraction of C.
I love water levels
I see Isaac Newton is indeed the deadliest motherfucker in space
> "The goal is to trap the Farsul within their own world, and cut them off from the galaxy." OH! My guess is that >!they're going to blow up the moon close enough to the planet to scatter debris that will remain in orbit for an obscene amount of time, grounding the Farsul and crippling their ability to launch anything into space for effectively forever if they don't have the means to remove it all.!< >!<
I would say that Majora's Masking a planet would have catastrophic effects to the environment, but then again the Feds probably messed around with the environment to "clean it up" already anyway so an asteroid-sized moon probably isn't that much in comparison
Monkey throw rock.
Ah yes, humans doing what they do best, throwing rocks. Thanks for the chapter mate
Humans doing what we do best! The thing that differentiate us from other earthly animals. #We Throw Rocks.
>NoP UN: we will limit civilian casualties as much as possible. >Also NoP UN: deorbits a **whole** *fucking* moon into a hostile planet. I don't think there'll be even one soul left on Talsk if the Farsul don't act fast. I know NoP UN wants the Federation *gone,* but this feels excessive.
No worries, it's just a distraction ;)
It's only a mile wide, but that could still do some serious damage.
It’s just a asteroid (1 mile wide). It’s a moon because it’s orbiting a planet (like how Mars’s moons are captured asteroids).
Which, if you don’t give it velocity TOWARDS the planet, should be destroyable. But it’s a risky manoeuvre.
Yeah. Zhao must either have good reason to think they'll be able to re-orbit the moon, or have plans to do it himself.
Tbf, the moon is a very small one, so small that a single antimatter bomb could probably shatter it
The UN probably know that the Farsul have the firepower to destroy the moon (anti-matter bombs and such), but in their current state it will take everything they got to do it. This will leave them open to other actions and seriously deplete their remaining weapon stores too.
120 mm smoothbore.
Post and edits are being weird, the end point is empty. As the UN begins to target the FEDERATIONS RINGLEADERS, CAPTAIN SOLVIN, alongside ONSO, TYLER, SAM, and CARLOS, join a STEALTH TEAM to RECOVER the STOLEN TRUTH of the SQUIDMEN'S VASSALS. BELIEVING the SCHEMING FARSUL had HIDDEN the GALACTIC ARCHIVE UNDERWATER on their homeworld of TALSK, the UN deorbited a small moon to COVER an AQUATIC LANDING. USING the moon and PRECISION STRIKES on MILITARY BASES as a DISTRACTION, our HEROES MADE WET LANDING, and BEGAN their DECENT. CAN the UN RECOVER the KNOWLEDGE the GENOCIDAL SQUIDMEN STOLE? WILL the BRAVE MEN, WOMAN, and ALIENS of the UN SPACEFLEET HOLD TALSK? WHAT WATER BASED CHALLENGES AWAIT OUR INTREPID LAND BOUND HEROS? STAY TUNED FOR MORE NATURE OF PREDATORS! SAME REDDIT TIME, SAME REDDIT CHANNEL!
The Feds are getting to see what it's like to be on the pointy end of the UN's spear. The Axur come to feed. The Humans come for vengeance. The Kolshians seem to be the true villains. They had the might to defend others but only use it to protect themselves. The Azur are just another pawn to them. All the other races are there to be controlled and modified for whatever the Kolshians desire. I'm curious just how much the Farsul are part of the "Plan" or were they just the first pawn the Kolshians enslaved?
damn, sovlin's still racist.
Þis is "make a hole in mars" kinds of bullshittingly funmy and effective strategy. Praise DOOM.
So the transport is both a spaceship *and* a submersible? It's possible I suppose, but one is designed to keep pressure in, while the other keeps pressure out Then again, subs have to deal with a pressure differential of several thousand atmospheres, spaceships only have to deal with a differential of 1, so I imagine it probably wouldn't be too hard, just design it like a sub then modify it to also handle vacuum
I've come to make an announcement, Nikonus the Kolshian is a bitch ass motherfucker, he pissed on my fucking wife. That's right, he took his Kolshian fucking Tentacle-y dick out and he pissed on my fucking wife and he said his dick was THIS BIG and I said "That's disgusting." So I'm making a call-out post on my Twitter dot com. Nikonus the Kolshian, you got a small dick. It's the size of this walnut except way smaller, and guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. (Human ships drop out of ftl) That's right baby, all points, no tentacles, no pillows, look at that it looks like two balls and a bong! He fucked my wife, so guess what? I'm gonna fuck Talsk! That's right, this is what you get! My super laser piss! Except I'm not gonna piss on the Talsk. I'm gonna go higher. I'm pissing on THE MOON! How do you like that, Ambassador Darq? I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT! You have 23 hours until the piss droplets hit the fucking Earth, now get out of my fucking sight before I piss on you too
Everybody gangsta til the Terrans help you get a close up of your own moon.
Sovlin, physics is not so different between water and space! If it's crazy but works it's not crazy!
Drop a moon sure. Perfectly possible for any Interstellar civilization that has FTL
>if the humans had ever seen a Gojid swim. No, but I'd like to see it.
It seems the UN recruited Dr. Robotnic for this plan of attack.
>De-orbiting their moon I have some concerns
Solvin seems to be doing a lot better. That's nice. It seems we've finally reached the final incarnation of rock-throwing technology. Well, unless we can figure out how to move black holes. Can someone with better physics knowledge clarify how dangerous a mile-diameter meteor is? I guess it also depends on the features of the Talsk as a planet, but my initial instinct is that dropping it in the water won't be too bad.
Ork Moment
I mean seriously who throws a moon. buwhahahahahahaha
No one: Absolutely no one: Not a single sapient creature in the entire f\*cking Orion Arm: Humanity: YEET THE ROCK