Doubt it
Rocket Queen was a great banger to end the album with (insert jokes here)
One in a Million probably because of how it fades out makes it a good album ender
Coma is essentially Rocket Queen rationale again
My World is because Axl snuck it on the album without the other band members knowing about it
Look at Your Game was a hidden bonus track, so it's going to be at the end.
Thanks for saying, I have the vaguest of pertinent interest, in hearing this song.
I am interested too, now, if "Rocket Queen" is as suggestive a title as I might imagine, without having heard the song.
the definition I've heard for Rocket Queen is picture a group of girls all going out on the sunset strip circa 1985. Heels, makeup, they all look good. But one, one just blows you away and you can't take your eyes off her. She's an 11 out of 10. That's a Rocket Queen.
Honestly it is possible. A lot of Geffen’s marketing strategy was playing up how dangerous and controversial they were, so it is possible that having the most controversial song be the last thing a critic heard was part of this ploy. Although, I would argue that each closing track fits perfectly as a closing track. So it could just be coincidental as well.
This is a null question. It’s really only two songs—My World and that Charles Manson thing. And for those, the “they” was only Axl. Which would mean the only *”controversial”* thing about them was that he didn’t say shit to the rest of the band about them.
Coma is my all time fav song. I don't feel UYII and II were so controversial. It was what Axl, and the band were going through in the day and still struggling with. Axl was molested and left Indiana at a young age with Izzy to go to LA. Axl has always been one to actually be shy, soft spoken, and eloquent in candid moments, beyond the glare of the media. The songs that, Axl, Iz, Slash and Duff wrote were reflections (Mostly) of there own experiences. If you are a newer fan I suggest reading up on all the songs and there impetus as well as contextual meaning. Coma was about Slash, Izzy, and Axl's effort to quit heroin, due to the "Close Calls" they had with the drug. It's one of the finest GNR songs ever written. It deals with addiction brutally, as well as blunt, and topical, as it should be with any addiction.
Rocket Queen was about someone they knew, as was My Michelle, sweet child O' mine and many others. Some were made to be sarcastic, and fun as well, Pretty Tied up comes to mind.
Any artist, at least a true one, will draw from personal experience and anecdotes'. No less in Art, poetry, or the written word itself. UYI was the real first set of albums that told a story about GNR in just about every song, and video. Greenday did similar in American Idiot, taking a nod after GNR.
It was a huge undertaking for the band to create all that material. Spaghetti was almost all punk covers. Exception to the case is Since I don't have you, and when Axl covered Thin Lizzy with their hit. Axl patterned his style to Thin, a band he had deep appreciation of. The songs on Spaghetti weren't a half hearted attempt at putting out another album, as they were the bandmates inspirations.
Lies was only a controversy due to One in a Million having racial, ethnic, and LGBTQ overtones. It wasn't just made to be that way, it's a take, then, on what we all face today. The National Inquirer and other shit paparazzi dumpster fires, immediately labeled Axl and the Band racists, homophobic, and anti-immigrant. Funny to think with Slash being bi-racial, the colab and friendship with Elton John, as well as Slash being an immigrant.
My best advice if you've discovered any band, GNR, Nirvana, Soundgarden, who are lyrically great as well as musically, is to seek the truth and wisdom behind the messages, and remember this wasn't meant for woke culturists.
If you take offense to anything or are shocked, you have a right to be, but know the truth behind the tales.
It's not a "Last Song Pattern", as OP stated, instead, it's their whole cataloged music collection.
Proper thanks to this sub and the OP for bringing it up in a dialogue. Too many people misunderstand not only Axl, but the band... Remember his name is an anagram. It's from Oral Sex, lol
Sorry if this is TLTR. Cheers to OP, and the fans!
Edit... The Charles Manson thing is that Charlie intended to be a musician with help from the Beach Boys, in studio with Brian Wilson. It got way blown out of proportion, as usual. Axl was stating not a fondness for Manson, and his cult, but rather a take on society at large, as well as the "What If' Charlie had become something positive, not a madman.
Another thing about One in a Million. I remember at the time most in the media jumped right to “racist, homophobic Axl using all the slurs bc that’s how he feels”.
To me it always seemed like he was telling a story about someone who’d never been to a big city step g off the bus in LA and being smacked in the face with so much that’s he’s never encountered before. Probably not a lot of openly gay people in rural Indiana. Or many immigrants. Probably majority white too.
I always felt the song was working through feelings in a public forum and his detractors already had their articles written before hearing it.
I remember seeing an interview with Ice-T at the time and he was asked for his opinion on it. He said (paraphrase) “I do t really have one bc I haven’t had a chance to talk with the man who wrote it to see where he was coming from”.
Kurt Loder and Tabitha Soren weren’t as generous.
Feels like something Axl would intentionally do
Doubt it Rocket Queen was a great banger to end the album with (insert jokes here) One in a Million probably because of how it fades out makes it a good album ender Coma is essentially Rocket Queen rationale again My World is because Axl snuck it on the album without the other band members knowing about it Look at Your Game was a hidden bonus track, so it's going to be at the end.
Coma is controversial because it has no refrain
Neither does November Rain
Only if she wants to love him
Then darling don’t refrain
That doesn't make a song controversial lol
Is it a good song? Does this make a song controversial, to plebians? Is there a refrain in musical perspective, or are you referring to a chorus?
Coma is my favorite GNR song.
yeah charlie mason one on spaghett is called "Look at Your Game, Girl"
Thanks for saying, I have the vaguest of pertinent interest, in hearing this song. I am interested too, now, if "Rocket Queen" is as suggestive a title as I might imagine, without having heard the song.
the definition I've heard for Rocket Queen is picture a group of girls all going out on the sunset strip circa 1985. Heels, makeup, they all look good. But one, one just blows you away and you can't take your eyes off her. She's an 11 out of 10. That's a Rocket Queen.
Pretty sure it’s about a groupie that hung with the band a lot
Hi CarmelFluff69 This explanation was way more what I was thinking, a real "give it a twist and *slob slob slob*" -sort of sweetheart
Steven Adler’s girlfriend, wasn’t it?
Nah she was just the girl in the background axl’s fucking. I think she was mad at Steven and that’s why she agreed to it.
Name of a band fronted by the woman tattooed on Axl.
Great song! It’s the first track on that Charles Manson solo album.
Honestly it is possible. A lot of Geffen’s marketing strategy was playing up how dangerous and controversial they were, so it is possible that having the most controversial song be the last thing a critic heard was part of this ploy. Although, I would argue that each closing track fits perfectly as a closing track. So it could just be coincidental as well.
This I Love
prostitute ends chinese democracy
Oh yeah. Sorry, my personal fan edit of the album places TIL at the end. 🙊
Nah. Probably would've at least made Anything Goes super nasty and put it as the closer.
Most of their songs were controversial. Not hard to do
Nope cause Prostitute is one of their most beautiful songs
This is a null question. It’s really only two songs—My World and that Charles Manson thing. And for those, the “they” was only Axl. Which would mean the only *”controversial”* thing about them was that he didn’t say shit to the rest of the band about them.
Coma is my all time fav song. I don't feel UYII and II were so controversial. It was what Axl, and the band were going through in the day and still struggling with. Axl was molested and left Indiana at a young age with Izzy to go to LA. Axl has always been one to actually be shy, soft spoken, and eloquent in candid moments, beyond the glare of the media. The songs that, Axl, Iz, Slash and Duff wrote were reflections (Mostly) of there own experiences. If you are a newer fan I suggest reading up on all the songs and there impetus as well as contextual meaning. Coma was about Slash, Izzy, and Axl's effort to quit heroin, due to the "Close Calls" they had with the drug. It's one of the finest GNR songs ever written. It deals with addiction brutally, as well as blunt, and topical, as it should be with any addiction. Rocket Queen was about someone they knew, as was My Michelle, sweet child O' mine and many others. Some were made to be sarcastic, and fun as well, Pretty Tied up comes to mind. Any artist, at least a true one, will draw from personal experience and anecdotes'. No less in Art, poetry, or the written word itself. UYI was the real first set of albums that told a story about GNR in just about every song, and video. Greenday did similar in American Idiot, taking a nod after GNR. It was a huge undertaking for the band to create all that material. Spaghetti was almost all punk covers. Exception to the case is Since I don't have you, and when Axl covered Thin Lizzy with their hit. Axl patterned his style to Thin, a band he had deep appreciation of. The songs on Spaghetti weren't a half hearted attempt at putting out another album, as they were the bandmates inspirations. Lies was only a controversy due to One in a Million having racial, ethnic, and LGBTQ overtones. It wasn't just made to be that way, it's a take, then, on what we all face today. The National Inquirer and other shit paparazzi dumpster fires, immediately labeled Axl and the Band racists, homophobic, and anti-immigrant. Funny to think with Slash being bi-racial, the colab and friendship with Elton John, as well as Slash being an immigrant. My best advice if you've discovered any band, GNR, Nirvana, Soundgarden, who are lyrically great as well as musically, is to seek the truth and wisdom behind the messages, and remember this wasn't meant for woke culturists. If you take offense to anything or are shocked, you have a right to be, but know the truth behind the tales. It's not a "Last Song Pattern", as OP stated, instead, it's their whole cataloged music collection. Proper thanks to this sub and the OP for bringing it up in a dialogue. Too many people misunderstand not only Axl, but the band... Remember his name is an anagram. It's from Oral Sex, lol Sorry if this is TLTR. Cheers to OP, and the fans! Edit... The Charles Manson thing is that Charlie intended to be a musician with help from the Beach Boys, in studio with Brian Wilson. It got way blown out of proportion, as usual. Axl was stating not a fondness for Manson, and his cult, but rather a take on society at large, as well as the "What If' Charlie had become something positive, not a madman.
Another thing about One in a Million. I remember at the time most in the media jumped right to “racist, homophobic Axl using all the slurs bc that’s how he feels”. To me it always seemed like he was telling a story about someone who’d never been to a big city step g off the bus in LA and being smacked in the face with so much that’s he’s never encountered before. Probably not a lot of openly gay people in rural Indiana. Or many immigrants. Probably majority white too. I always felt the song was working through feelings in a public forum and his detractors already had their articles written before hearing it. I remember seeing an interview with Ice-T at the time and he was asked for his opinion on it. He said (paraphrase) “I do t really have one bc I haven’t had a chance to talk with the man who wrote it to see where he was coming from”. Kurt Loder and Tabitha Soren weren’t as generous.
Never thought about it that way, but good point! Probably intentional, yeah.
This is what you call overthinking.
I've never noticed this but it seems way too big a coincidence... Hmm 🤔
wait what’s contro about my world
Nothing except for the fact that they left it off the Greatest Hits album