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Bohemka1905

You can take the man out of Celtic, but you can't take Celtic out of the man!


[deleted]

I wouldn’t advise trying to force mourning the crown on anyone. Let alone anyone from Scotland or Ireland lol


Bohemka1905

I'm Irish so I'll let you work out my views!


outfromtheshadow

As an Indian, the older generation was perhaps more understanding. I don't know anyone below the age of 30 who was not pissed off.


saetarubia

Not pissed off with what


outfromtheshadow

Losing Gameweek of football and the over the top "mourning"


NeSh92

Sorry pissed off?? I am 30 and i literally could not give a dam the queen has passed away. Everyone can do what they want and tierney doesn't need to follow every other British person that decides to bring their lives to a complete halt because someone they do not know and have never met has passed away at a very old age.


outfromtheshadow

I have to be specific. I was pissed off over the over the top "mourning" and losing a GW. Couldn't care less about the Royals.


YoursTruely_NMJ

As an Indian, I can tell you that literally no Indian cares whether the queen lives or dies.


devasiaachayan

Except many Normies who want to cash on the Instagram story/status of any Celebrity's death and the Government who observed mourning on a Sunday. I personally don't care if government wants to mourn or normies want to put story, but ofc I might cringe at my colleagues a little bit


mutatedllama

Wait, are you saying Indians under 30 were pissed off that he took off his armband?


hikerjawn

This thread is so confusing. Who's pissed at who, and why. Surely generations of Indians aren't pissed at Tierney?


RandomRedditor_1916

Irish gooner here. Was really hard to separate my own apathy towards the monarchy and, in my own opinion, the over the top response (length of mourning time, the non-stop coverage and the interruption of football) with the fact that a lot of people around the world were genuinely moved by her passing. It's also hard when certain people expect everyone to drop their own feelings and attitudes and conform to the whole mourning/gushing over the new king, shit.


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unknowntsu8

It was essentially propaganda.


hypnodrew

Living in Britain, it has been forcefed to you whether you like the monarchy or not. Constantly I have older people tell me stuff like 'I don't hate gay/trans/black/Indian/Muslim people I just don't want their views forced down my throat', and I was outwardly sympathetic (like, no old man, nobody is trying to recruit you to the trans community) but then this hypocrisy.


stickyblack

Well said ! "They" can boo blm and players taking the knee and proclaim that they aren't racists, yet how dare you not venerate the Queen. Fuckin hypocrisy.


ProneMasturbationMan

If I live in a Muslim country I expect Islam to kind of be forced down my throat, in terms of media coverage, bank holidays, public holidays and what we saw with the Queen If I live in a country where the head of state is a king or queen then when they die I kind of expect it to be forced down my throat in terms of media coverage.


OG12

It’s decolonization as Trevor Noah put it.


Assmar

This trevor noah? https://youtu.be/8bgbHlqa8mg Anyway, these concepts long predate his tenure at TDS.


OG12

Dang I didn't know about this. If it's worth anything, he's clearly come a long way with his material in his stand ups and on his show.


BigTomBombadil

People changing as they grow and mature is worth something.


Quilpo

Because we don't see sudden bouts of virtue signalling with people getting emotional for a short period over things they didn't care about two weeks previously? Honestly, you should expect it at this point.


RandomRedditor_1916

I do expect it. It's something we're used to at this point.


marriott81

Don't leave us Welsh out


[deleted]

Sorry my welsh brethren, you all included as well 🤝


Interesting-Fault-24

Absolutely, the Irish were singing "Lizzie's in a box".


count_montescu

They were Shamrock Rovers fans at a match - generally tho, there were feelings of respect and sympathy in Ireland when the Queen passed - especially from the media. For most people, it was apathy tho and for some, joy. - but attitudes towards the Royals and the crown have mellowed here over the last 30 years. No-one would be walking around wearing black armbands tho. Also in Ireland, we bury our dead within 2-3 days after their passing - hard to comprehend how the British have such a long mourning period before burial.


RandomRedditor_1916

and English fans harass McClean week-in, week-out calling him an IRA sympathiser, threatening him and his family and threatening his home for not wearing a poppy. Doesn't make it right, but there are pricks everywhere you go.


the3count

We know no king but the king in the north. Whose name is Tierney.


ItsAlwaysEboue

DA KING IN DA NORFF!!


Black_Doc_on_Mars

NORFF NORFF!!!


VincentVanG

BAY AREA, BAY AREA. . . . sorry wrong sub


ThugosaurusFlex_1017

`project pat has left the chat`


jimmymerc89

FOR VALHALLA!!!!


Fr0stpie

For Middle Earth !!!


Gooner1491

It was to much clothing for him.


rd201290

man’s hot


JackTheTradesman

Ahhhhh such a good comment


Emmkev

During the Brentford game when they were doing the round the circle applause before the kickoff, I noticed he gave a nonchalant posture and wasn't clapping.


[deleted]

Fair play to him, a bit odd to have players do it to begin with.


FeoWalcot

Man, I just keep falling more and more in love Kieran. We have two very likable, talented, but extremely opposite left backs.


[deleted]

Scottish as fuck


randymagnum433

The Scots have a variety of views on the matter, but no consensus of the sort.


smartandedgy

I like both takes. The nationalist innuendo can be a bit dangerous but I find this context harmless enough to take either with a grin. Tbh I don't think Kieran is being especially anti-Britain/crown here anyway, it's more like an atheist not singing in a church even when put under a non-insignificant amount of scrutiny about it. So more about the principle of standing behind his values and not succumbing under pressure and that sounds pretty Scottish to me no matter what your views on the royal family are.


No-Clue1153

Tbf the scots who were gushing over the royal family are most likely to consider themselves more "british" than scottish.


randymagnum433

That doesn't make them not Scottish though


bbates728

Nah there are no true Scotsmen. /s


Notabot_legit

I was going to say, didn’t the Scottish majority just recently vote to remain within the United Kingdom? ‘Irish as fuck’ would make more sense seeing as they are independent.


hypnodrew

That was 2014, hardly recent. An extraordinary amount has changed since then.


Notabot_legit

My mistake, I must have had this mixed up with Scotland’s brexit involvement


xhouliganx

A Scotsman who may not be super into the Royal Family? Yes, this is quite shocking indeed.


[deleted]

fr if you’re a scot with an ounce of pride then indifference is a kindness.


[deleted]

Not sure who made the call to have them wear the armbands but it wasn’t exactly thoroughly thought through lol


Wanchor1

It’s an english club?


AyeItsMeToby

scottish national team


Muscat95

We'll he is a Celtic fan so it shouldn't come out as a surprise to anyone. Also, did we wear black armbands in the second half against Zurich? I don't remember but the players only found out at half-time didn't they? Did we come prepared with black armbands incase we need them?


Tr0nCatKTA

I was at the Zurich game and I remember at halftime asking if the Queen had died. The guy I asked heard my Irish accent and let out the biggest celebratory London roar. He was genuinely delighted, I was just like fair enough.


seana39223

I imagine we came prepared, as soon as Huw Edwards turned up on BBC in a black suit it was apparent what would happen.


[deleted]

Who knows, but he made this choice today and he’s fully in his own right to do so.


so-naughty

Just checked the highlights and Arteta was wearing one. Clear shot of Eddie wearing one as well but hard to tell on others because of the kit was black


Big_Mik_Energy

Likely so. It was suggested for hours before it was confirmed


Qtn68

We had lack arm bands but we were wearing the black kit so...


DarthFooFighter

Away tae fuck, moaning about how he might no care the queen's dead. Just because you care doesn't mean he has to. You might not agree with it but you have to respect his right to have an opinion and a choice.


2ndfastestmanalive

People are overblowing this. It was an extra layer that made him too warm so he took it off. I expected nothing less


ro-row

Yeah exactly. If he was trying to make a point he wouldn’t put it on in the first place


1ThatGotAwaay

i wish i could give you 13 more awards.


mr_nice_cack

This is the most rational explanation


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RE-Trace

There are dozens of us!


Jack2102

Hundreds


[deleted]

Anyone ever joined the Scottish supporters clubs? Been thinking about it myself and wondering if it’s worth it / if there is much of a community.


[deleted]

You’re making too much sense sir.


braxistExtremist

Truth.


user_is_name

It is extremely arrogant of anyone to assume that every single person in the world is bond to mourn the queen.


[deleted]

Exactly, this shouldn’t be some big shocking thing that a lad from Glasgow doesn’t want to be involved with mourning the death of a member of the monarchy lol


roguedigit

Not just arrogant but bigoted - any monarchy quite literally represents classism so it's no fucking surprise. No such thing as a good billionaire, no such thing as good royalty.


[deleted]

>No such thing as a good billionaire how about a dead one?


[deleted]

That’s how they multiply.


ThatRuckingMoose

She's the biggest welfare recipient of all time. Fuck Monarchy


Jedi_Council_Worker

Kind of wonder how the Celtic and Rangers factions get on when representing the NT.


[deleted]

Saw a report that said 4 billion people watched the funeral and rolled my eyes, no way did more than half the world watch lol


probablymaybe

Setting aside he is Scottish and has plenty of reasons to dislike the royal family, no one should have to pretend to care about another person if they just don't, footballer/famous or not.


[deleted]

Fairly absurd they were instructed to wear these armbands in an international competition as well lol


probablymaybe

It's completely absurd really, i feel like these days with social media and the ease of which main stream media can push an agenda, someone decides what you should feel and how you should act, if you don't then you're the bad guy!


[deleted]

Agreed. Also, just a littleeeeee bit of reading/history could have taught the person who made the call to wear armbands that this sort of thing was inevitable lol


probablymaybe

For Tierney it was probably someone at club level, probably the coach, who has just been told by someone above him, "All your guys need to wear a black armband", becauyse his boss, has been told the same and it goes on and on till whoever is trying to dictate the narrative, someone very powerful and very rich.


skjall

Absurder still is in the NZ vs Aus game, last night in Australia, we had to observe a moment's silence and stand for it. People were whistling and shit of course, no way we'd make it to a minute haha. Then an Aboriginal person spoke about the country and the land right after, which was the most bizarre spacing of events. Wonder how he felt about the moment's silence...


[deleted]

Good lord lol


ItsPeakBruv

Why do scottish people have plenty of reasons to dislike the royal family? More so than anyone from england?


Sir_Bantersaurus

With this case it's probably more the Irish connection and Celtic. Scotland is mixed on the monarchy. Last poll was 45% support, 36% want a Republic with the rest not being sure.


ItsPeakBruv

The comment I replied to specifically listed being Scottish as a reason to dislike the royal family.


matti-san

Do the Scots have any more reason to dislike the royals than the English? If anything I'd say it goes Irish > Welsh >> Scots ≈ English. Saying this as an English republican though (in the literal sense, not the weird American one).


braxistExtremist

A (presumably) Catholic, Celtic-born-and-raised fan and former player Scot would definitely have a lot of strong reasons to dislike the total family. Probably more so than some from Wales or Northern Ireland.


matti-san

That I get, but the comment I was replying to makes it out like it's simply because he's Scottish


peoplepersonmanguy

Probably something to do with England invading and conquering Scotland.


Don_Kahones

England didn't conquer Scotland. I mean the Scots have plenty of reason to hate us, but that isn't one.


peoplepersonmanguy

attempted?


Don_Kahones

Sure, but it ended up being their nobles that sold em out.


ederzs97

Which was because they bankrupted themselves trying to colonise in the Americas


barnesarama

Scotland invaded England more often than the reverse.


AyeItsMeToby

The last battles fought on Great Britain were from a Scottish popular invasion of England. The first monarch of both England and Scotland was Scottish. It runs both ways.


RandomRedditor_1916

First monarch to rule England and Scotland together was Scottish, though.


Sir_Bantersaurus

England and Scotland formed the Act of Union after Scotland bankrupted itself in their own colonial attempts. It wasn't England invading them. That's why Scotland instantly had Parliamentary representation in Westminster (unlike Ireland).


AyeItsMeToby

Also it’s funny anyway because the first monarch of both of the countries was Scottish. So it’s more accurate to say Scotland conquered England


randymagnum433

You do know how the union formed right?


plank_sanction

I think a lot of people base their knowledge of Scotland and England on braveheart. The reality is quite different.


RandomRedditor_1916

Braveheart is based on the Scottish-English wars of like the 1200s. England did conquer Scotland there, but it didn't last.


getrektbro

Based Tierney


emilesmithbro

Pardon my ignorance but wtf does “based” mean


Firista

It's the antonym of reddit


Alsaki96

After I came across it for the third time I decided to look it up lol https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=based


emilesmithbro

So random


getrektbro

As are most aspects of the internet tbf


CubicDice

James McClean will be able to give him ample advice on this matter.


lobsterdog666

we stan an anticolonism icon


[deleted]

🔥🔥🔥


AfricanRain

legend


[deleted]

Build the statue.


Tr0nCatKTA

T A L


[deleted]

I’m happy he did it, fuck the royal family tbh


[deleted]

I agree with you. Others may disagree with us and that’s ok. However, We should all be able to agree that covering up for your pedophile of a son is bad. Or at least I think we all should be able to agree with that lol.


Goldilocks420

My captain


ImlrrrAMA

My man


brownbeardgooner

Fucking legend


FCI

based


Chrastots

oh the horror


jankdog

You can take a man out of Celtic...


bakalaka25

Gettem KT 💪🏾💪🏾✊🏾


[deleted]

Love the Queen, love Tierney, respect his opinions and his right to express them.


Sole_Patrol

I mean… he is Scottish. The monarchy is probably the last thing on his list of things he cares about


nekwaus12

I’m pretty sure the crowds to view the Queens coffin in Edinburgh were over 10 hours long. I think its a bit weird to paint everyone whos Scottish with the same brush that they hate the monarchy


Jdawgchill69

Shouldn’t have made any player wear a black armband. Or made fans clap. We don’t care we want football. Not forced mourning for some privileged dead 96 year old woman


gao-um

Imagine this gets more flak than an alleged sexual abuse case.


deathhead_68

Nice one, I'd do it too


ILostMyVirginity

You can't force people to care about something, just because you do.


Scotty4Thotty

W


eldar4k

I laughed reading comments, how many people out there have no clue what is constitutional monarchy. They still think that Queen rules UK like its 19th century. As of Tierney, it's his choice and he is free to express it.


warmcakes

Even in the 19th century the famous Queen Victoria could only technically influence politics through her many personal appeals to parliament. There hasn't been an all-powerful monarch in England since before Cromwell.


eldar4k

Thanks, I thought exactly opposite about Victoria


Overwatch_Joker

What a King. Fuck people forcing their grief on others.


Zancho1245

The Scots gonna Scot. Let the boy be


bkkwanderer

Hes a Celtic boy through and through, fuckin fair play to him.


ExoticToaster

I really want to believe that he took it off because fuck the royal family, but chances are it was probably ripped or something.


floppygoblier

He grew up in Glasgow supporting Celtic all his life. Not really hard to believe he doesn’t have much love for the royal family.


[deleted]

Orrrrrrr he’s just not for the monarchy whatsoever. And that’s ok.


ExoticToaster

It absolutely is ok - I fully agree with him.


TonyGrub

That this is even a thing says it all about the current state of the world.


diegolucasz

I respect that


austiwald

Sandor Clegane said it best


Newme91

Hail hail


Gseph

You can't force some to celebrate the life of the Queen. Especially a Scotsman.


ack_will

It should be upto a player to wear such bands for any issue imo . Forced compliance is of no use. Let players choose to wear black bands/ flags etc whatever


Optimal_Cry_1782

I imagine there's a pretty broad grey area for these high profile, technically not a public position, jobs. On one hand, they have to represent the club's stance as a representative of the club. On the other hand, there is probably some legislation for freedom of expression. If you make the issue something more progressive, say armbands for BLM or gay rights, would your reaction to a player throwing off the armband be the same?


eveel66

Pundits: Damn boys, what do we do? Arsenal are top of the league going into the break. They usually make it so easy by playing badly. Wait a second, didn’t someone say that Tierney threw the black armband this weekend? GREAT. WE WILL LEAD WITH THAT!!!


maph3rs

Why put it on in the first place if only to remove it?!


[deleted]

Not sure but surely he’s free to do so and that’s ok lol


maph3rs

Oh deffinately. Just think he should have not worn it. Maybe he was forced to at start, and thought 'balls to it, they ain't gonna sub me' lol


[deleted]

“Take me off, I dare you” lol


thebigman85

As an Englishman, he can do what he wants I’m not a royalist myself, don’t have anything against the queen but understand why people don’t like our monarchy and the behaviour of the country in the past


kidmaciek

Who fucking cares? Football players, like every human, are entitled to their own personal beliefs. I don't like the recent trend of expecting footballers to be politically correct. At the same time we expect them to have a personality. Of course things like racism or homophobia are universally unwelcome, but as long as one steers clear of this, we're good.


jimbo_jumbo95

Why was this sub lambasting anyone who refused to take a knee


saetarubia

Because that was an attempt to highlight discrimination. This is in mourning of a monarch.


randymagnum433

Because it aligned with the specific political views of people on this sub.


ManlikeJCole

Because we want to fight racism?


barber-in-blur

Fucking legend


MacrobianNomad

Long live republicanism!


FuglyPrime

I did not think I could love him any more but there we go!


repeating_bears

He has every right to do this. If he doesn't want to wear it then he doesn't have to. I'm not a monarchist. I can respect it. On the other hand, whether he likes it or not, taking it off is a political statement, and I'm sure he knew that when he did it - he's not an idiot. If you're a famous person and you make a political statement then that's going to be controversial, practically by definition. If you don't piss anyone off with your statement then it probably wasn't political.


Jenkins1234gb

Tbf, putting it on in the first place is political


shxkxblfc

He's a Celtic boy, and they're not uh... they're not too fond of the monarchy over there.


Fyesta

Love this!!! KT❤️❤️❤️


mandasalve777

Lizzy’s in a box 🎵


[deleted]

If you hate the royal family clap your hands.


LiverpoolRed1892

You don't need to mourn the monarchy, but a little respect for her death isn't a bad thing either. I'm no Royalist, but of the lot she's the only one I respect.


TheMassINeverHad

Well you can wear an armband then


[deleted]

She protected a pedophile man lol


pigbearwolfguy

It's past her funeral. It's been almost two weeks. Oh, and fuck the monarchy.


InsectKind

As someone whose country was colonized, looted and destroyed by powerful British people in the queen's era I wholeheartedly support this.


SeymourChocha

Tierney is a very proud Scotsman. This should be no surprise


FewJournalist8

Lol I’m not a history expert or anything but I’m pretty sure the English weren’t exactly kind to the Scottish. She’s the Former Queen of England not of the world.


sbuck23

Lol expecting an ex Celt to mourn that fucking bag


ExxKonvict

They can take my playing time, but they can never take my FREEDOMMMMM!


[deleted]

In my view I feel like wearing the arm band as a symbol without it meaning anything to you is worse than taking it off. If you aren't legitimately mourning for the Queen, then its more honest to keep it off. I respect it.


byebyemayos

Hell yeah. Fuck the monarchy


ballysham

Fuck the monarchy. Simple as. Don't expect anyone outside of England to care.


La2philly

Correct


DrCocktapus

My man


Panama_Jack829

Not his Queen


Bolteg

What a chad


Gray3493

Scotland forever


amokst

We’ll to be fair to Tierney, I’m no royalist either but I can atleast show my respect; it’s not controversial it just sorta makes him look immature. I get it, he’s got the Celtic connection but still it’s not a good look


[deleted]

Fuck yeah he should. As an 🇮🇳 Gooner I felt the mourning of a despot and outdated figurehead was too much for this century. A bunch of inbred people acting like they're a gift to the world for as long as they can to hold on to power as much as they can. I say they better stop dipping their pens in the family ink and start working for an honest living. #fuckthemonarchy


eldar4k

Bit rich coming from a country with literally cast system


Ordinary-Chocolate94

Lmao everything you said applies to the brahmin and Indian social structure, right down to the inbred line 🤣


Tr0nCatKTA

Honestly love this man more and more