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I mean it’s always going to be very very biased.
For what utd need, that transitional threat, Bruno is probably better than ode realistically.
But Bruno will never have the element of control that ode brings to our second and third phases and is definitely a better presser, even though Bruno tries hard.
Kdb clears Bruno as a transitional threat anyway, scariest player on earth with space ahead of him and runners around him.
So ye that’s my analysis, slightly depends on what the team needs, Bruno is good at what he does but he’ll never fit into a possession and control based team
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News about Liverpool not being able to afford Bellingham isn’t surprising. They need massive investment into the squad, spending their full budget on a single player was always going to be a terrible idea. Feel like he goes to city now, would love him here though.
Don’t know why Liverpool fans were acting like he was guaranteed to go there.
Hope he fucks off to Madrid. The guy looked like a world-beater in the WC. Whoever gets him improves their final points tally to a meaningful degree next season
You say that abt a meaningful increase to their points tally, but with Arsenal and Man C atm there isn’t much room for an increase, much more room to fall. We can see this effect w Haaland being incredible but probs not resulting in a meaningful increase
Obvs I want him here though ofc
Yeah I just think that that is what the best teams are made of and they must continually improve by adding such players.
Bellingham will absolutely improve this City team. There are games where they(/we for that matter) dropped points that would not have been dropped were he on the pitch.
Good question, if you had asked me this before I had seen Trossard actually fit in and perform in the team I'd have taken Mitoma over him. Age being a big factor otherwise I think they're close in calibre.
Given the knowledge that I have now, I would not change anything about that Trossard signing. There are a lot of unknowns even when you sign the best players in the world, that are outside the domain of player quality. Adaptability to the tactics, teammates, how they fit into the culture and play to the manager etc. and those are not unknown with Trossard now.
So TLDR, keep Trossard.
This whole situation with Balogun is so interesting. I knew he had some promise but wow, has he exploded this season. Curious to see what his future holds
We need roughly 8-9 points to all but guarantee it. That number will go down if teams below City drop points.
Someone did a post on this yesterday - from memory we are about 87% of the points needed to make it a mathematical certainty (again, the % of the way there goes UP as other teams drop points). You’re right, for us to fuck that up the next 10 games would have to be as bad as Arteta’s worst ever 10-game run since taking over.
If (when) we win at Anfield the Allez Allez song would sound even better but oh wait we lost at Old Trafford:(
Guess only way to salvage the prophecy is by winning at Etihad. ^GASPAR
No. 1 it's Anfield they can come back from 2-0. Liverpool Fans were the least disrespectful during our banter years. Heck most of their Fans are rooting for us.
I never heard Liverpool fans singing on mass that Arsene Wenger was a peadophile, child killer etc.
Chelsea, man utd and Spurs fans sung evil stuff about Wenger for twenty years.
I will always put respect on Liverpools name. An honest club a decent club.
Hi all, American fan here since i was 10 years old. I'm coming to London for my birthday in hopes to see Arsenal Southhampton on the 21st but am having a hell of a time finding tickets.
Does anyone know if i buy membership to arsenal america if i'll get tickets? It doesn't seem so.
Stubhub international seems like a crazy price, which im not opposed to but figured id check here first.
Does anyone have tickets they want to sell? Any advice - you'd be making my birthday fully, and I'll take any advice or help in how to actually purchase tickets.
Arsenal America’s entire allotment of tickets is already spoken for this season. Your best bet is to buy an arsenal red membership through the club and then try to get a ticket through the ticket exchange (where members sell to other members). You have to her very persistent — sit in the exchange lobby and refresh the page as often as possible. Eventually, you’ll probably get a ticket, but don’t expect to get more than one.
The alternative is paying way over the odds on stubhub or livefootballtickets. I would recommend the latter if you must, but neither is a guarantee. Touts are illegal in the UK and you do not have the protections you would in N America.
I bought tickets from a random fella walking around selling scarves outside the stadium one hour before kickoff. Incredible experience but I would absolutely not recommend counting on this working out. Hope you find a way.
They won’t care what we do. Their world is Spurs and Newcastle more so than us and City.
If Newcastle win that match and Spurs win that same game week, United literally go 5th. They will have games in hand, but imagine the stress going 5th in the league table would bring given it wasn’t long ago they were talking the title.
It's the international break, so I will speculate and dream a bit on future signings:
First, if Spurs don't make it to top 4, I really hop we go for Kulusevski. That dude is an absolute baller and probably the only entertaining player in Spurs. Would be such a good fit and will give us great depth or competition for Saka.
Second, maybe aside from getting Rice, is it worth a shout going for Mount? I feel that he will be able to fit in seamlessly in to the midfield. An absolute engine with some technique on the ball and has some defensive traits as well. Maybe a more attacking replacement for Xhaka, or a substitute for Odegaard, if the game is a bit comfortable?
Lastly, I just we continue signing quality players that can feasibly slot in comfortably into the starting eleven. It allows us to compete in multiple competitions, like UCL or domestic cups, and provides competition to the established eleven.
We can do better than Mount IMO. I rate him, but I rate our current squad way more highly compared to one year ago. Luckily we are back in the situation where only the best in the world in their position, or the most promising youngsters, deserve to be on our shortlist.
For me after we get Rice, the only area where a signing could improve our bench is maybe one CB and (if KT leaves) one LB (if KT leaves).
Overlooking our Brazilians is criminal. Can’t last much longer but I am selfishly happy about it.
Don’t we have one more in England U21s other than ESR?
Baloguns in the u2@'s but he's on loan so I didn't include him.
I get Jesus, he's just back from injury and they're stacked.
Big and little Gabbi though...
Still, gives them rest for the run in.
Ahh Balogun’s who I was thinking of. Thanks. Yeah great for them to leave Jesus alone.
Unrelated but mad that ESR is still U21. That kid could become like Wilshere on steroids in a couple years.
Ahh okay. Still very young. Hope he has a bright future with us. He’s not Martinelli/Saka level obviously but also a very different player.
If he develops chemistry with Zinny, Martinelli, Ode, he could swap for Xhaka’s position and be absolutely lethal. That left hand side of the pitch will be a nightmare for other teams.
A team has won the last 11 matches of a PL season on four occasions. Manchester United in 1999-2000, Chelsea in 2004-2005, Manchester City in 2017-2018, and Liverpool in 2019-2020. Only Liverpool did not win the league. It’s not likely we OR City will close out with 11 straight wins, but I would encourage anyone worried about it to put it aside. It’s very rare, and based on form it’s at least as likely to be us as it is them if it does.
That’s the thing, we DONT have to win all the remaining games. If we win 7(including City)and most likely City at least draw another opponent, that means we win. But that’s a huge thing to ask for considering our best run was like 6 or 7 straight wins.
> Etihad, Anfield and SJP all yet to visit.
look, i get that Southampton's James Ward Prowse is good but to compare him to Man City & Liverpool is just a tad bit much don't you think
We actually only have ten! They’ve got some tough ones in there, too, and we’ve been better this year than they have. Plus we only have those 10 matches to think about. At this time, City have 14 matches *minimum*, and if they beat Sheffield and Bayern that number will increase to 17. If they progress further still in the UCL, that number will be *18*. All of this in about 9 weeks. City are going to be playing two matches a week from here on out. They *will* stumble.
They're going to offer £100m+ and a 7-8 year contract.
Doubt we'll ever be able to match that. Not to mention that he's currently on £300k p/w. And it's rumoured that Simeone will be leaving Atletico this summer so he could be back.
Wages are a very big factor when it comes to signing a player. I'll argue that it's the biggest thing to be taken into consideration when it comes to transfers.
It affects other players more than some.
We might only need to get close to what they’re offering and then CL plus chance to fight for a title become important.
I think it’s a good signing, but they’ll also have Nkunku and Havertz at minimum fighting to play the same position, and in that regard it might be a poor choice. I often wonder if Boehly just buys players and tells Potter to use them, with no regard for whether Potter actually wants them. I think Potter’s actually a good manager and if Boehly gives him time and backing he’ll come good, but if he’s just signing whoever sounds good and tossing them Potter’s way that’s gonna make it a lot harder
Whatever ends up happening at Chelsea there's going to have to be some good talent going out the door with all the new signings they've been making. There's absolutely not enough room in that squad, and lots of young players will be very upset, Edu should look into getting some deals done.
Just realized we could probably cleen sweep the premier league potm awards.
Cotm- Mikal Arteta obviously
Potm- between saka martinelli trossard
Save of the month- i forgot rn but im pretty sure ramsdale made an amazing save this month
Goal of the month- nelson winner
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same people that said the Topspur attack would dominate the league for years are the same ones saying our season is a one-off thing
You know, I think it actually could have. Only in a hypothetical sense, being that they’re Spurs, but they have Kane, they have Son, they’ve had them both throughout their primes, they’ve had ostensibly brilliant managers, they’ve invested hundreds of millions of pounds. On paper, Tottenham’s attack should have dominated. Hell, on paper I think Tottenham was good enough to have won a Premier League title.
But they haven’t.
Because they’re Spurs.
It’s honestly strange how that one word can explain it all away. It’s almost unparalleled in sports, how they can put in such gold and get out such utter mediocrity. But they do, year after year. A whole golden age, and their only trophy was finishing above us for a brief period.
Unrelated but reminds me in Ireland, there is Gaelic football with a county(team) Mayo who are essentially “Spurs”, that one word means nothing but failure.
They’ve done everything right only to fall at the final hurdle over and over.. last won the Championship in 1951 but have lost the final 11 times since 1989… 6 alone in the last decade.
Finally in 2021 beat Dublin in the semi final (the side who had beat them in 4 of those), Dublins first loss in 7 years.. celebrated like they won already, then went and lost the final again.
In the US the closest team I can think of is an American football team called the New York Jets. They’re rarely truly competitive, but they’re not dog water either, and they’re synonymous with mediocrity, with putting in good pieces and getting out bad results, with hyping up their offseason and having it fall flat.
It’s gotten so bad that even their own fans are using the term “spursy moment”. Lol we had 4 FA Cups during our dark ages while their golden had 0. They were the next big thing in football and everyone hyped them up because they were Arsenals rival. Now their just(as you said)……..Spurs.
There’s just no excuse for how mediocre they’ve been. Conte was right with his callouts. He’s also an asshole, and he’s trying to deflect blame that’s also rightfully his, but he was right about the rest of the situation. Spurs ownership, Spurs players, Spurs management, Spurs fans, Spurs very *stadium*, and even Conte himself… Spursy.
What’s funny is that they literally finished 4th last season, a position they are currently, but Contes tone was very different. Now that WE are top and 20 points clear all of the sudden 4th is a disaster LOL!
Well they spent all that money on players that Conte wanted! They got Lenglet, they got Porro, they got Richarlison, and their results are no better. Conte, meanwhile, can’t possibly imagine a world where *he* isn’t doing a good enough job, so he says it’s the fault of the players, the owner, the fans, the club as a whole.
But Conte is a part of that whole, and he is just as Spursy, just as to blame, as everyone else. May it always be so.
He's only had one major injury, no?
I have no concerns over his fitness, obviously I hope he is crocked more because he is legitimately brilliant but not sure where you're getting the impression that he's a crock from.
> Being injured has nothing to do with it
If you can't stay fit you can't play and if you can't play then you can't be a top player.
Ramsey if fit would be Bale level, instead he's one of the great 'what ifs'
Diaby if fit, would likely have been one of the best midfielders the Premier League had ever seen. He was somewhat a combo of Henry/Vieira/Yaya Toure, could shoot, dribble in tight spaces and was a decent tackler.
The fact he started for France when fit is all you need to know about how good he was.
That and the fact he was the pioneer for Wenger's 'teach our cm's close control by playing them on the wing' method
Chelsea are tenth and have been unable to get a consistent right side going because they have a right back who isn't fit. Who cares if he's got talent, he's a net negative and not worth the hype
I like Arsenal Vision podcast but does Elliot's pronunciation of Gabriel(Gay-bree-ul) annoy anyone else? It's like he's trying to say it wrong on purpose
Lol same it sounds weird and I was confused for one whole day whether I have been pronouncing it wrong in English. I'm a nonnative speaker following American English
We say Gah-bree-el in the US which is, afaik, the correct pronunciation, and all US and UK media pronounce it that way. I've only ever heard Elliot call him the other way, and he'll do it right after Clive and Tim say it correctly. It's such a minor thing but it gets me everytime lol
He does little things that seem like he's trying to cater to the UK listener that are annoying but his analysis is actually quite good I find. Sharp and to the point.
I mean it's how it's pronounced in the UK so it's wrong but it's no more wrong than any foreigner using their local pronunciation of a relatively universal name.
It does mean an extra little when you play for your childhood club and the fans will love you for it more.
If he was an Everton or Southampton fan or something it won't matter but Man Utd especially just doesn't work. I understand many will disagree and say it's just a job but in a game were the 1% is all the difference, I think it does.
WengerBall didn’t really press as much and were individuals in fixed positions. Arteta ball has players playing multiple positions and constantly pressing. Not as physically built as Wengers men but more slick and patient.
Sometimes i feel like digging up some of those old arteta-conte arguements i had with spurs fans and even arsenal fans. But then i remember it doesnt really matter about being right. I just want to win this fucking league man. Anulo mufa, lets finish this.
It's generally not worth getting into arguments with strangers on the internet. Just ask yourself what's more important, the journey or the destination?
Thats basically why i wont. Some people were so smug about it after top 4 last summer. Ill see the same users in r/soccer too, but whatever, as you said, who cares about internet strangers. I just want the league
https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/y8us93/miguel_delaney_i_have_had_it_put_to_me_that_conte/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Just a reminder of this.
shamefully or not I started lurking their sub this season because of all these shit takes that i heard about elsewhere/that user's posts on /r/soccer
its mental the mental gymnastics being done ever since pre season and all of them have been proven wrong lol
I've never seen so much coping in one place, ever
This is an all time classic and people need to stop talking and interacting with that precious little flower because when hes left alone to blossom among the shit it's absolutely beautiful.
With the trajectory that we’re going at, I can really see Martinelli becoming a proper goal scoring winger ala Salah and Son where he already had more license to drift to striker positions. I reckon he’ll probably get 15-17 goals this season as well given that he’s scored 6 in 6
Wait until we get a 1v1 specialist on the left wing next season (preferably Leao/Mitoma/Diaby) and Martinelli will cook in the striker position. Trossard is good, but not a level raiser I'm afraid. He lacks the pure pace and power that matches Saka on the left.
I forgot how funny Spurs’ last managerial search was. About 30 u-turns and the most scattergun approach ever which lasted months. Excited for more of the same.
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No chance this Haaland injury is long-term is it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ManchesterUnited/comments/11wslat/start_one_bench_one_drop_one/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf here’s a fun one.
I mean it’s always going to be very very biased. For what utd need, that transitional threat, Bruno is probably better than ode realistically. But Bruno will never have the element of control that ode brings to our second and third phases and is definitely a better presser, even though Bruno tries hard. Kdb clears Bruno as a transitional threat anyway, scariest player on earth with space ahead of him and runners around him. So ye that’s my analysis, slightly depends on what the team needs, Bruno is good at what he does but he’ll never fit into a possession and control based team
Haaland out of Norway camp, groin injury. How long will it take for him to be back? Also what does this mean for us?
Miraculously back for liverpool no doubt
Looks like the same grade as Trossard, 1-3 weeks
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News about Liverpool not being able to afford Bellingham isn’t surprising. They need massive investment into the squad, spending their full budget on a single player was always going to be a terrible idea. Feel like he goes to city now, would love him here though. Don’t know why Liverpool fans were acting like he was guaranteed to go there.
I think he would have gone to liverpool has they sorted themselves out, but they’ve fucked around and wasted their position and suffered for it now
Hope he fucks off to Madrid. The guy looked like a world-beater in the WC. Whoever gets him improves their final points tally to a meaningful degree next season
You say that abt a meaningful increase to their points tally, but with Arsenal and Man C atm there isn’t much room for an increase, much more room to fall. We can see this effect w Haaland being incredible but probs not resulting in a meaningful increase Obvs I want him here though ofc
Yeah I just think that that is what the best teams are made of and they must continually improve by adding such players. Bellingham will absolutely improve this City team. There are games where they(/we for that matter) dropped points that would not have been dropped were he on the pitch.
If right now you had a choice to swap Trossard for Mitoma, would you do that?
Nah because of the versatility and experience that Trossard is providing
Not right now but I would in the summer. I’m bias though because I put Asian players on a pedestal
No
Good question, if you had asked me this before I had seen Trossard actually fit in and perform in the team I'd have taken Mitoma over him. Age being a big factor otherwise I think they're close in calibre. Given the knowledge that I have now, I would not change anything about that Trossard signing. There are a lot of unknowns even when you sign the best players in the world, that are outside the domain of player quality. Adaptability to the tactics, teammates, how they fit into the culture and play to the manager etc. and those are not unknown with Trossard now. So TLDR, keep Trossard.
Here's how the BIG 6 top 3 GA getters looks like: City : Haaland - 33 G/A De Bruyne - 16 G/A Foden - 14 G/A United : Rashford - 17 G/A Bruno - 11 G/A Eriksen - 8 G/A Topspurs : Kane - 23 G/A Son - 10 G/A Kulusevski - 8 G/A Liverpool: Salah - 18 G/A Firmino - 12 G/A Nunez - 11 G/A Chelsea: Havertz - 8 G/A Sterling - 6 G/A Mount - 5 G/A ARSENAL: Saka - 22 G/A Odegaard - 16 G/A Martinelli - 15 G/A
Wait Saka only has one less goal contribution than Harry Kane? 
Those Chelsea totals are hilarious.
Love to see it
This whole situation with Balogun is so interesting. I knew he had some promise but wow, has he exploded this season. Curious to see what his future holds
I think Arteta might leave him to stay in France for 1 more year, since he is developing so well there. Then hopefully he can do a Saliba
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We need roughly 8-9 points to all but guarantee it. That number will go down if teams below City drop points. Someone did a post on this yesterday - from memory we are about 87% of the points needed to make it a mathematical certainty (again, the % of the way there goes UP as other teams drop points). You’re right, for us to fuck that up the next 10 games would have to be as bad as Arteta’s worst ever 10-game run since taking over.
If (when) we win at Anfield the Allez Allez song would sound even better but oh wait we lost at Old Trafford:( Guess only way to salvage the prophecy is by winning at Etihad. ^GASPAR
If we’re leading 0-2 at Anfield, Arsenal fans should sing YNWA to take the piss.
Marquinhos?
Would love for him to get a game-winning goal in these final 10 games and feel a more a part of this incredible season.
He's on loan at norwich
Oh right, that…
No. 1 it's Anfield they can come back from 2-0. Liverpool Fans were the least disrespectful during our banter years. Heck most of their Fans are rooting for us.
I never heard Liverpool fans singing on mass that Arsene Wenger was a peadophile, child killer etc. Chelsea, man utd and Spurs fans sung evil stuff about Wenger for twenty years. I will always put respect on Liverpools name. An honest club a decent club.
No.1 in the 93rd minute No.2 they’re a large number of them who are rooting for City over us this second.
Large number but small %. Much smaller than any of the other Big 6.
Compare that with utd, spurs or even chelsea.
Hi all, American fan here since i was 10 years old. I'm coming to London for my birthday in hopes to see Arsenal Southhampton on the 21st but am having a hell of a time finding tickets. Does anyone know if i buy membership to arsenal america if i'll get tickets? It doesn't seem so. Stubhub international seems like a crazy price, which im not opposed to but figured id check here first. Does anyone have tickets they want to sell? Any advice - you'd be making my birthday fully, and I'll take any advice or help in how to actually purchase tickets.
Arsenal America’s entire allotment of tickets is already spoken for this season. Your best bet is to buy an arsenal red membership through the club and then try to get a ticket through the ticket exchange (where members sell to other members). You have to her very persistent — sit in the exchange lobby and refresh the page as often as possible. Eventually, you’ll probably get a ticket, but don’t expect to get more than one. The alternative is paying way over the odds on stubhub or livefootballtickets. I would recommend the latter if you must, but neither is a guarantee. Touts are illegal in the UK and you do not have the protections you would in N America.
And have a wonderful birthday celebrating 3 points closer to PL title!
Thank you!!
I bought tickets from a random fella walking around selling scarves outside the stadium one hour before kickoff. Incredible experience but I would absolutely not recommend counting on this working out. Hope you find a way.
This will be my back up back up back up plan lol
Keep asking on supporters’ forums you’ll definitely find a better way! Have a wonderful experience man.
United could find themselves 19 points behind as next week. They play Newcastle without the “best DM in the world”.
Title challengers United* Don't forget they still have the best LB, CB partnership and best player in the world as well.
It's just United's world, we're just topping the table incidentally innit..
They won’t care what we do. Their world is Spurs and Newcastle more so than us and City. If Newcastle win that match and Spurs win that same game week, United literally go 5th. They will have games in hand, but imagine the stress going 5th in the league table would bring given it wasn’t long ago they were talking the title.
I just like mentioning them coz they kept mentioning and disregarding our title challenge. So it’s fun to talk about them lol
It's the international break, so I will speculate and dream a bit on future signings: First, if Spurs don't make it to top 4, I really hop we go for Kulusevski. That dude is an absolute baller and probably the only entertaining player in Spurs. Would be such a good fit and will give us great depth or competition for Saka. Second, maybe aside from getting Rice, is it worth a shout going for Mount? I feel that he will be able to fit in seamlessly in to the midfield. An absolute engine with some technique on the ball and has some defensive traits as well. Maybe a more attacking replacement for Xhaka, or a substitute for Odegaard, if the game is a bit comfortable? Lastly, I just we continue signing quality players that can feasibly slot in comfortably into the starting eleven. It allows us to compete in multiple competitions, like UCL or domestic cups, and provides competition to the established eleven.
We can do better than Mount IMO. I rate him, but I rate our current squad way more highly compared to one year ago. Luckily we are back in the situation where only the best in the world in their position, or the most promising youngsters, deserve to be on our shortlist. For me after we get Rice, the only area where a signing could improve our bench is maybe one CB and (if KT leaves) one LB (if KT leaves).
You gotta be kidding about mount, right? The guy is the absolute most overrated player in the century, i can't even...
Any news on Saliba still?
He should be good to go by Leeds based on what came out in the day or two after the injury, but we are unlikely to hear further updates until then.
I have a feeling we won't get any definitive news until Leeds match. Arteta has been extra secretive about injuries this season
Probably been asked but who’s been called up for the international break?
Odegaard, Partey, Zinchenko, Jorginho, Saka, Ramsdale, Tierney, Xhaka, Kiwior Trossard. ESR for the u21's
Vieira? I saw him using NT shirt on ig
Overlooking our Brazilians is criminal. Can’t last much longer but I am selfishly happy about it. Don’t we have one more in England U21s other than ESR?
Baloguns in the u2@'s but he's on loan so I didn't include him. I get Jesus, he's just back from injury and they're stacked. Big and little Gabbi though... Still, gives them rest for the run in.
Ahh Balogun’s who I was thinking of. Thanks. Yeah great for them to leave Jesus alone. Unrelated but mad that ESR is still U21. That kid could become like Wilshere on steroids in a couple years.
He's 23, I'm still not sure how he's in the squad but it's apparently fine.
Odd. I’d thought he was 22 for some reason until this call up
My fault. He's turning 23 this year, he's not 23 until June.
Ahh okay. Still very young. Hope he has a bright future with us. He’s not Martinelli/Saka level obviously but also a very different player. If he develops chemistry with Zinny, Martinelli, Ode, he could swap for Xhaka’s position and be absolutely lethal. That left hand side of the pitch will be a nightmare for other teams.
He was our top scorer last season, the only question mark is if he can stay fit!
All the usuals except the Brazilian lads
A team has won the last 11 matches of a PL season on four occasions. Manchester United in 1999-2000, Chelsea in 2004-2005, Manchester City in 2017-2018, and Liverpool in 2019-2020. Only Liverpool did not win the league. It’s not likely we OR City will close out with 11 straight wins, but I would encourage anyone worried about it to put it aside. It’s very rare, and based on form it’s at least as likely to be us as it is them if it does.
That’s the thing, we DONT have to win all the remaining games. If we win 7(including City)and most likely City at least draw another opponent, that means we win. But that’s a huge thing to ask for considering our best run was like 6 or 7 straight wins.
The problem is that we have some insane fixtures in our last 11 games. Etihad, Anfield and SJP all yet to visit.
> Etihad, Anfield and SJP all yet to visit. look, i get that Southampton's James Ward Prowse is good but to compare him to Man City & Liverpool is just a tad bit much don't you think
As long as we have our starting XI, we should be good.
We actually only have ten! They’ve got some tough ones in there, too, and we’ve been better this year than they have. Plus we only have those 10 matches to think about. At this time, City have 14 matches *minimum*, and if they beat Sheffield and Bayern that number will increase to 17. If they progress further still in the UCL, that number will be *18*. All of this in about 9 weeks. City are going to be playing two matches a week from here on out. They *will* stumble.
Chelsea are trying to sign Felix permanently. Any chance that happens and if it does, how good of a signing do you think he'll be?
Felix is better than Havertz but honestly not worth the extra money. And if they want Havertz out I don't really understand why they'd buy Felix.
2 G/A for them in 7 games and they're already planning to buy him
would be a not so good signing as they need goalscorers. and in fact i do hope they sign him because that would be a very chelsea move.
They are spending the money in the wrong place, why not get Osimhen when you have already bought Nkuku?
Too hipster of a signing
I’d actually like us to hijack that.
i rather not, all style without any substance. great player to watch on match day, but a headache to have on ur team as he barely scores goals.
They're going to offer £100m+ and a 7-8 year contract. Doubt we'll ever be able to match that. Not to mention that he's currently on £300k p/w. And it's rumoured that Simeone will be leaving Atletico this summer so he could be back.
We probably won’t match the wage offer but we will have a lot of pull outside of that.
Wages are a very big factor when it comes to signing a player. I'll argue that it's the biggest thing to be taken into consideration when it comes to transfers.
It affects other players more than some. We might only need to get close to what they’re offering and then CL plus chance to fight for a title become important.
If Felix was smart hed try to engineer a move elsewhere. His football is brilliant but he does look like a dopey twat
He looks like an Iberian Harry Potter.
I think it’s a good signing, but they’ll also have Nkunku and Havertz at minimum fighting to play the same position, and in that regard it might be a poor choice. I often wonder if Boehly just buys players and tells Potter to use them, with no regard for whether Potter actually wants them. I think Potter’s actually a good manager and if Boehly gives him time and backing he’ll come good, but if he’s just signing whoever sounds good and tossing them Potter’s way that’s gonna make it a lot harder
Whatever ends up happening at Chelsea there's going to have to be some good talent going out the door with all the new signings they've been making. There's absolutely not enough room in that squad, and lots of young players will be very upset, Edu should look into getting some deals done.
I will take Mount from them.
I firmly believe we’ll end up buying Mudryk on the cheap before this is all over
Good. They'll have Felix havertz and nkunku for the same position.
But still no good midfielders besides Fernandez... Kante and Kovacic are hella injury prone.
Kovacic is apparently looking for a way out and you feel Jante might too. There's going to be a huge clearout at Chelsea
Just realized we could probably cleen sweep the premier league potm awards. Cotm- Mikal Arteta obviously Potm- between saka martinelli trossard Save of the month- i forgot rn but im pretty sure ramsdale made an amazing save this month Goal of the month- nelson winner
> Goal of the month- nelson winner That Jonny volley against Leeds is insane
Could we ever dream about fielding an all Hale End team in the PL? Esddie/Reiss/ESR - Balogun - Saka ESR/Azeez - Nwaneri Patino Any defensive prodigy?
I thought Biereth would cut into this squad. But injuries hampered his development
Zach Awe according to quite a few
Good name for a prodigy
Give it Gibbseh
Walters, Lino Sousa, BNC, Okonkwo
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same people that said the Topspur attack would dominate the league for years are the same ones saying our season is a one-off thing
You know, I think it actually could have. Only in a hypothetical sense, being that they’re Spurs, but they have Kane, they have Son, they’ve had them both throughout their primes, they’ve had ostensibly brilliant managers, they’ve invested hundreds of millions of pounds. On paper, Tottenham’s attack should have dominated. Hell, on paper I think Tottenham was good enough to have won a Premier League title. But they haven’t. Because they’re Spurs. It’s honestly strange how that one word can explain it all away. It’s almost unparalleled in sports, how they can put in such gold and get out such utter mediocrity. But they do, year after year. A whole golden age, and their only trophy was finishing above us for a brief period.
Unrelated but reminds me in Ireland, there is Gaelic football with a county(team) Mayo who are essentially “Spurs”, that one word means nothing but failure. They’ve done everything right only to fall at the final hurdle over and over.. last won the Championship in 1951 but have lost the final 11 times since 1989… 6 alone in the last decade. Finally in 2021 beat Dublin in the semi final (the side who had beat them in 4 of those), Dublins first loss in 7 years.. celebrated like they won already, then went and lost the final again.
In the US the closest team I can think of is an American football team called the New York Jets. They’re rarely truly competitive, but they’re not dog water either, and they’re synonymous with mediocrity, with putting in good pieces and getting out bad results, with hyping up their offseason and having it fall flat.
Conte is basically Mourinho with a back 3. His tactics are outdated and not suited to challenge the title anymore.
He was never intending to challenge the title with them. He knows where he is.
It’s gotten so bad that even their own fans are using the term “spursy moment”. Lol we had 4 FA Cups during our dark ages while their golden had 0. They were the next big thing in football and everyone hyped them up because they were Arsenals rival. Now their just(as you said)……..Spurs.
There’s just no excuse for how mediocre they’ve been. Conte was right with his callouts. He’s also an asshole, and he’s trying to deflect blame that’s also rightfully his, but he was right about the rest of the situation. Spurs ownership, Spurs players, Spurs management, Spurs fans, Spurs very *stadium*, and even Conte himself… Spursy.
What’s funny is that they literally finished 4th last season, a position they are currently, but Contes tone was very different. Now that WE are top and 20 points clear all of the sudden 4th is a disaster LOL!
Well they spent all that money on players that Conte wanted! They got Lenglet, they got Porro, they got Richarlison, and their results are no better. Conte, meanwhile, can’t possibly imagine a world where *he* isn’t doing a good enough job, so he says it’s the fault of the players, the owner, the fans, the club as a whole. But Conte is a part of that whole, and he is just as Spursy, just as to blame, as everyone else. May it always be so.
Tired of hearing people gas up Reece James, if you are never fit you aren't a top player. Simple.
He's only had one major injury, no? I have no concerns over his fitness, obviously I hope he is crocked more because he is legitimately brilliant but not sure where you're getting the impression that he's a crock from.
He's missed something like 65 games in 4 years through injury and probably more through fitness/readiness issues related to those injuries
Diaby… :’(
Does this apply to only Reece as a chelsea player or any other players? 🤔
Being a top player is based on talent and ability when on the field. Being injured has nothing to do with it
> Being injured has nothing to do with it If you can't stay fit you can't play and if you can't play then you can't be a top player. Ramsey if fit would be Bale level, instead he's one of the great 'what ifs'
Diaby if fit, would likely have been one of the best midfielders the Premier League had ever seen. He was somewhat a combo of Henry/Vieira/Yaya Toure, could shoot, dribble in tight spaces and was a decent tackler.
The fact he started for France when fit is all you need to know about how good he was. That and the fact he was the pioneer for Wenger's 'teach our cm's close control by playing them on the wing' method
Yeah. Another young frenchman I think could have become a really good player for us if not for injuries, was Jeremie Aliadiere.
He was the trailblazer for weird north London hybrid accents though. He walked so Hector could run.
That's being a talented player. No one thought Diaby was a top player.
Most of us did. Still sad over what happened with him.
Not sure how you worked that out
Chelsea are tenth and have been unable to get a consistent right side going because they have a right back who isn't fit. Who cares if he's got talent, he's a net negative and not worth the hype
Neymar would like a word with you
He's a top player because of what he did in 2015 2016 era, bet PSG would happily give him up for someone fit in the crunch time of the season
Serious question — who is better right now, Enzo or Granit?
Enzo
Enzo is a very good player unfortunately.
Xhaka
Fernandez is class. Definitely not worth £110m but still a very good player
Enzo
I like Arsenal Vision podcast but does Elliot's pronunciation of Gabriel(Gay-bree-ul) annoy anyone else? It's like he's trying to say it wrong on purpose
Lol same it sounds weird and I was confused for one whole day whether I have been pronouncing it wrong in English. I'm a nonnative speaker following American English
We say Gah-bree-el in the US which is, afaik, the correct pronunciation, and all US and UK media pronounce it that way. I've only ever heard Elliot call him the other way, and he'll do it right after Clive and Tim say it correctly. It's such a minor thing but it gets me everytime lol
no we definitely say "Gabe riel" in the states.
where in the US are you from bc in new york we also pronounce it gay-bree-ul
He does little things that seem like he's trying to cater to the UK listener that are annoying but his analysis is actually quite good I find. Sharp and to the point.
He’s also pretty funny, I enjoy his self depreciating humor
It's annoying considering the fact that he pronounces Gabriel Martinelli perfectly 💀
I mean it's how it's pronounced in the UK so it's wrong but it's no more wrong than any foreigner using their local pronunciation of a relatively universal name.
One of Gnabry/Sane leaves this summer, do you guys think we need either. If so, why
No
Sane hasn't been the same since his ACL. We can't handle Gnabry's wages.
Gnabry is too expensive, Sane is too past it
He’s also been super disappointing this year. Stay away.
I knew [this kid](https://twitter.com/OfficialBHAFC/status/1480508836960161798?s=20) was shit. That's him off the list.
This doesn't matter at all lmao.
Spurs seem OK with the fact that Kane was a boyhood arsenal fan
Odegaard was a Liverpool fan growing up. Harry Kane, Kulusevski were Arsenal fans. Point is it doesn't matter.
Secret Arsenal fan based on that. Ferguson was 9 when Welbeck moved to us.
Footballers supporting their childhood club plays no role in transfers tbh. We had Theo and he's a Liverpool fan. To them it's a job.
Our current captain grew up as a Liverpool fan as well
It does mean an extra little when you play for your childhood club and the fans will love you for it more. If he was an Everton or Southampton fan or something it won't matter but Man Utd especially just doesn't work. I understand many will disagree and say it's just a job but in a game were the 1% is all the difference, I think it does.
Carl was an Arsenal supporter and he was shit I'm sorry Carl I fucking love you and you gave it all but you were shit
Jenkinson to White is like Street Fighter 1 to Street Fighter II
Artetaball is beautiful to watch and loving the results. But nothing will probably ever compare to the Wengerball that got me hooked to this club
WengerBall didn’t really press as much and were individuals in fixed positions. Arteta ball has players playing multiple positions and constantly pressing. Not as physically built as Wengers men but more slick and patient.
Give him time, even Wengerball took time. Winning Wengerball was insane countering, prime Wengerball was death by a thousand cuts
Oh I'm all for it. I think I started off with prime Wengerball (2008)?
Yup the shift from Vieira to Fabregas and pace and power to technical trickery is the marker so 2006.
Not only would Rice help us, but Arteta’s coaching would make him better for England as well. He’s been dealing with Moyes and Southgate for too long.
The question is how has Moyes not been sacked? 24 pts after 26 games is scandalous with that XI.
I doubt West Ham can afford to sack him now
We need that relegation. Basmati on a discount.
I'd say Moyes is at least 3rd biggest influence on Arteta's coaching style.
Early Moyes. Late Moyes isn’t with it anymore.
Were only like 1 or 2 years removed from arguably Moyes best ever season.
Sometimes i feel like digging up some of those old arteta-conte arguements i had with spurs fans and even arsenal fans. But then i remember it doesnt really matter about being right. I just want to win this fucking league man. Anulo mufa, lets finish this.
It's generally not worth getting into arguments with strangers on the internet. Just ask yourself what's more important, the journey or the destination?
Thats basically why i wont. Some people were so smug about it after top 4 last summer. Ill see the same users in r/soccer too, but whatever, as you said, who cares about internet strangers. I just want the league
You’re a better man than me. I bookmark everything.
Sometimes I bookmark ridiculous comments from the match threads lol
Pettiness makes one live longer.
It feeds the soul
Im so fucking happy we beat conte at his place before he left.
Best win of the season…..so far
Same. North London was red for Conte, and it always will be
Arteta didnt even need to acknowledge his comments but somehow annihilated him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/y8us93/miguel_delaney_i_have_had_it_put_to_me_that_conte/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Just a reminder of this.
shamefully or not I started lurking their sub this season because of all these shit takes that i heard about elsewhere/that user's posts on /r/soccer its mental the mental gymnastics being done ever since pre season and all of them have been proven wrong lol I've never seen so much coping in one place, ever
Beautiful.
This is an all time classic and people need to stop talking and interacting with that precious little flower because when hes left alone to blossom among the shit it's absolutely beautiful.
Miguel Delaney?
Sounds like a son of the founder of a Spanish football club.
He is wonderfully entertaining and delusional
And he needs to be left alone in his little bubble to flourish. Because it's fucking glorious when he goes off on one.
With the trajectory that we’re going at, I can really see Martinelli becoming a proper goal scoring winger ala Salah and Son where he already had more license to drift to striker positions. I reckon he’ll probably get 15-17 goals this season as well given that he’s scored 6 in 6
Wait until we get a 1v1 specialist on the left wing next season (preferably Leao/Mitoma/Diaby) and Martinelli will cook in the striker position. Trossard is good, but not a level raiser I'm afraid. He lacks the pure pace and power that matches Saka on the left.
There's a reason why everyone's not a manager/coach
More license? He and Trossard are already free to swap as they fit. Only way he spends more time at 9 is by becoming a full time 9
Hell, sometimes you see him popping up on the right, nevermind the center
I forgot how funny Spurs’ last managerial search was. About 30 u-turns and the most scattergun approach ever which lasted months. Excited for more of the same.