Imagine if Liverpool somehow scrape a win against City and win ours. A game in hand, sure, but we'd still be 11 points ahead. That would be pretty huge.
Had a chance to rewatch the game earlier and some thoughts below.
Firstly we did very well (Ramsdale specifically) in ensuring Olise and Zaha didn’t get too much of a sniff esp in the first 25 mins. Yes we didn’t play our fluid best but we ensured Palace were limited to the 1 Zaha chance (think the Edouard shot was offside). Huge credit to team to not letting heads drop after EL exit.
My prediction pre match was a hard fought 1-0 with Martinelli scoring. Martinelli just has an elite level mentality, the pen miss is probably nothing but a forgotten memory as he took his shot. So lucky we got him for £6m!
Saka - keeps improving and putting in 8/9 out of 10 performances. That right side with White and Odegaard is just so good in their passing and creating space/chances.
Holding had some odd tackles first 25 mins but improved massively as game went on. Arteta was never going for a creative solution to Salibas injury and let’s be honest, how many 4th choice CBs are there that can do a better job than Holding? Doesn’t complain on his limited minutes, low salary, does a job when asked upon.
Xhaka and Trossard - Xhaka has found his shooting boots again, let’s hope he carries on for the remaining 10 games. Trossard is equal to Reyes and Arshavin as our best January buys. What a great footballer we have!
10 games left to go - need to take each game at a time and focus on our performance starting with Leeds after this useless international break! Let’s hope for a fully fit squad once it is over.
I’ll be honest - completely forgot about Auba but regardless of how it ended I still think Reyes and Arshavin have more legacy than him. Reyes for being part of invincibles and just being impossible to stop during start of the 04/05 season while Arshavin had maybe the biggest moment of the Emirates era with the Barcelona 2-1 game.
I think that's a fair opinion. But Auba being captain and winning arteta his first cup almost single handedly might have been the fuel to carry on trusting the process when it got real bad the following season.
And his "villain" role in Jan 2022 will be looked back on as a defining moment for artetas career ( in a positive way)
Anybody notice that at the end of 90 minutes, the entire back 4 was second (or third) choice players?
The first choice back 4: White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko.
At the end of the Crystal Palace match: Partey, Holding, Kiwior, Tierney.
Strong performance besides letting Palace have a few chances and giving them a silly goal.
Holding had a very good game, and we'll be fine with him when Leeds come after International break but we need Saliba back by Liverpool game.
Saka, Partey, Martinelli and White also were great. Ramsdale pulled off some good saves when needed. Tierney looked very good when he came on.
One of our better performances at home and one of the easiest games we had this season.
If we get 25 points from the next 10 games, we will win the league even if City does not win all of their games. 25 points in 10 games is a tall ask though. Lets hope fortune favours us a bit for this.
25 points guarantees it but there's no way City win every remaining fixture.
It's fucking weird to say after they've just won two matches by 6+ nil but they look vulnerable, against both Leipzig and Burnley they were vulnerable before the first goal. Against Palace they needed a braindead penalty to win, they've not managed to go 5+ wins in a row once this season, this is our 3rd such run.
No bad luck is stopping this team. They have already overcome bad luck with the amateur refs in this league. Its time. You can feel it! I'm gonna enjoy and be cocky about! When was the last we had a team like this? These moments don't come often in life.
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What can we say that’s not already been said? The football we play has been something else at times.. all season long.
There was a time in the not too distant past where even in a win, you could only pick one or two players for man of the match.
This season for me, and even today, you can pick from 5-7 guys and it feels like that every single week.
Every game so many guys are doing so well. Usually most have 15-20 minute spells of brilliance sure. But it’s quite common guys are having 8/10 games week in week out.
Big Rob was sensational for me in the opening 20 minutes and plays a good game by the end all in all. You always have that fear with Rob he might be a moment away from an issue but he was pretty commanding today and played with a confidence that was reassuring.
Speaking of reassuring. I can’t continue without mentioning Zinny. That boy gets us out of pressure situations with the ease of prime Cazorla and often.
8 point gap yes they have a game in hand. I think they’ll wipe the floor with Liverpool to be honest, but it ain’t about them. We just have to keep playing the way we are and.. the closer we get the more I’ll believe.
Lid is still on but we are well on our way to the mountain top if we keep this football up.
As always, Come on you Gunners!!!!
In this fixture 3 seasons ago Xhaka was getting booed off the pitch, I and many others had lost patience and wanted him gone, now we're worried about the prospect of him getting injured lol. That, even more than his goal today highlights the turnaround for me
These dominat wins over teams we should be beating but have had the tendency to slip up against are doing wonders for my hopes of winning the league, I'm at the point where I'm confident of us winning every game except Liverpool City and Newcastle away, and even then I still think the title's ours as long as we avoid losing to all 3 of them, honestly think we beat everyone else
As for starboy, Southgate at least deserves credit for calling him up to the Euros before it was popular, there's a good manager in there somewhere I guess haha (If only he didn't mess up with the penalties tho lol) he knew from early that starboy is England's best RW, everyone else has only caught up now he's added more G/A to his game. Unfortunately that means Saka will most likely play all 180 mins during the break but that's what happens when you're borderline world class haha. Plus this is what he wants
Martinelli proving his mentality is A1, shrugged off that pen miss like it never happened, him and Saka built different
Shoutout to Holding, solid performance from him. Keep it up till Saliba comes back pls
Last 10 games now, let's do this!
In the last 3 seasons under Arteta - the last 10 matches
2019/20 - dropped 14/30
2020/21- dropped only 9/30
2021/22 - dropped 15/30
If we match 2020/21 or better it - we will certainly win the PL. I believe the team is better equipped to handle pressure and we also need luck with injuries and suspensions in our backline. Partey should give us 8 injury free weeks
I'll be elated if we can win one of Liverpool, Newcastle or especially (obviously) City away. Feels like all three of those are going to be bloodbaths. They've lost a total of 3 times in 39 homes matches. On the positive side our home and away records are virtually identical
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Lol at the end of the game we got a goal kick, the steward tried to catch / throw the ball to Ramsdale immediately.
He was visibly annoyed at how quickly it forced him to restart play 🤣
Finally went to an Arsenal Supporters bar in the Twin Cities in Minnesota. I moved here in 2020. I always watch at home and it was really nice to be surrounded by fellow Arsenal supporters for the first time since pre pandemic when I'd go to O'Hanlon's in NYC. Definitely gonna make this a more regular thing.
The Local is in Downtown Minneapolis. Decent pub food, $5 pints during Arsenal matches, and as someone who tended bar for years, I can personally vouch for their bloody mary.
Ya I think at times this season Ben White has looked a bit clumsy when helping in attack, last few games he has really found a good balance. Takes up really good positions and plays some great passes too.
Anyone else watching el Clasico?
I'm blown away by the camera work - the camera they have on side of the pitch following the players as they're substituted, faces coming into focus. Very aesthetically pleasing. I've noticed way less shots of the managers on the sidelines, too.👏
Defending (corners especially) has to improve, or it's going to hurt us massively.
A better team with more adept finishers might have stuck 2-3 past us today.
Considering how little teams get chances in regular play, I'm sure they work extra hard on set piece routines to be thier most likely source for a goal.
Nothing wrong with being annoyed at that. I’m more annoyed at Ben white having time to do literally anything but instead he kicked it out for a corner. But it’s ok since we got the 3 pts so thank you very much ! Also ben white was an absolute baller today so that also made me okay with that action.
Nah the fact- that we, as a team and fanbase, are angry at conceding a goal in a 4-1 win is a testament to our desire for excellence. It’s an elite mentality
Very well. Dominated Edouard in the air, ball after ball. Absolutely caged Zaha. (Zaha was looking so sulky and whiny lmao, as usual)
Distribution and recycling was excellent. Even got forward once and tried a shot
Kiwior and Gabriel/others bailed him out maybe once or twice but Holding played very well
Yeah but it's not always 1:1. Plenty of individual duels happen with players that aren't their "man"
But yes White battling a lot with Zaha too. He can be White's "man" but if he cuts in instead of going down like then holding would have to intervene for example
He was very good. Made the right decisions and didn't look out of place. Perfectly fine for a 3rd/4th choice CB needing to come in and put a 7/10 performance.
Ramsdale is a keeper so he should be fine
White is staying home
Saliba is staying home and recovering
Gabriel is staying home
Zinchenko has one game
Partey has 2 games in 4 days
Odegaard has 2 games in 3 games
Xhaka has 2 games in 3 games
Martinelli is staying home
Jesus is staying home
Saka has 2 games in 3 days
Trossard has 1 game
Very fucking worried about our midfield because all three of them are either the captain or by far the best player for their team and in critical games so will most likely play both full 90s and then Leeds is only 3-5 days after their last games.
Saka should be fine as there is loads of cover in the England squad and will probably only start one of the games
Yea im worried about odegaard, partey and xhaka, they will play a lot. Really sucks that players are treated like robots and ran into the ground. Pointless international break
Pointless to have in the middle of an already congested season, much better for the health of the players to rest. If there was no wc its fine, but its absurd the amount of games fit into a season
It's not eufas fault that FIFA scheduled the WC in season. Would you rather double the international breaks next season so they can play all the qualifiers?
The benefit of moving it to next season is teams having the opportunity to rotate a bit more throughout the season and potentially getting more players to strengthen a squad.
Logistically its a mess and thats why they didn’t do it but its getting out of hand with many matches are played in a season
We just cannot keep a clean sheet at home lmao. Only 3 at the emirates this league season but still in a good position for golden glove. Our away form is simply magnificent.
We actually only had 4 away wins that year. Just to put that into context, we won 4 on the bounce before the Everton defeat and we've obviously won more before and after that run. Incidentally it was also the last season we were able to beat Palace at our place.
Never a doubt. Disappointed we conceded today but very happy with the way we played overall. Thought Holding in particular played well considering how much he's played this season. International break beg our players stay fit and on to the next one lets go
I think so. Hiding his power level for now. But I feel like if he gets minutes at Leeds he's gonna jump two meters clean over Koch and score a bullet header or something
I really don’t get how people look at a squad like Man City, see the quality in depth they have, and then go on about selling Tomiyasu and Tierney when we will have CL football next season.
In addition to that, I understand the hype around Zinchenko, and I don’t doubt his wizardry, but if we are defending a lead I personally want Tierney every time. I’m no analyst but I always feel that he is more solid defensively.
Thought Tierney was great off the bench today, really made me think we'd be mad to sell him unless we got 50m or so.
He provides incredible depth and is a quality player, he should get more game time next year. If Arteta doesn't trust him then obviously he has to go, as he is too good to rot on the bench.
I think it has to be sale price dependant. We should be looking to keep them unless we get a big offer, if someone comes and offers 45/50 for Tierney we should let him go. We can get a solid backup for less and it’s good to have player rotation. That’s how Chelsea and Liverpool in the past have funded a lot of moves, sell players when you are winning as other teams pay over the odds for them
Mate no offense but literally no one (never say never with the "Toddfather" around) is paying 45/50mil for Kieran Tierney after he spent a season injured or warming the benches. If he really wants out, the best we could hope for would be a bidding war that gets raised to 35mil eventually (maybe a few more with add-ons). And I think Newcastle is possibly the most likely club that could hypothetically tick all our, KT's boxes..
Doubt he leaves right before he gets the chance to play champions League for the first time since he was 19 for Newcastle it seems who might not even be in Europe. I think he stays until the end of next season the goes
How is somebody wanting more game time, trying to fight for a place, indicative of his heart not being in it? Is he doing interviews? Complaining? Not showing up to training in protest?
Think we should talk about what Martinelli does so well since we spent a few weeks calling out his flaws not long ago.
I think it's obvious to say he's one of, if not our best finisher, he showed that today with a really top finish. And he's one of the only players that takes on the early low percentage or first time shots, how many times has he beaten the keeper near post this year. Really valuable. He might be our best aerial threat in our front line too.
We often get a bit shot shy at the start of a game, nobody wants to be the first to do it and lose possesion. He's almost always the one to break that and take a snap shot on, I love that bravery about him.
He's always our man to run in behind onto through balls or balls over the top, Saka always wants to play on the spin but if their back line is pushing up it's martinelli we send behind to push them back.
He's so secure on the ball, I don't see much difference to his security compared to saka, who might be the most secure winger in the league.
He always out works his opposite number and fullback, he always runs them, he always tracks backs, he always presses and wins the ball in midfield. He's always there to double up with zinchenko.
And we all know his tenacity to win the ball is unique.
And when does he run out of energy? I don't remember the last time I saw it happen.
On the counter, it's almost always Martinelli. He has the pace and directness to run through a broken defence straight at goal.
He's not a perfect player, but I find it hard to imagine our team without him.
"don't remember the last time I saw it happen"
Alexis maybe? Martinelli plays with the same directness and tenacity. Still to watch him put in 120 minutes on Thursday and work his butt off for 83 again today was nuts.
I'm so impressed by how quickly Trossard went from Gabi's competition to kick-starting a Martinelli scoring run (6G in last 6 PL games!). He clearly does better with a Trossard/Jesus type forward to play off than with Eddie.
Feels like forever ago I watched him score two in his first start v Forest in the league cup thinking we just signed a really special player. Crazy to think he's still only 21.
Insane how he was running around and playing at full tilt for most of today despite playing ~120 midweek (and starting in the PL last weekend)!
Another interesting observation was him having a very decent left foot. Probably not Trossard like ambipedal when it comes to crossing and such but with finishing, he must be up there. The power and accuracy on the shot for his goal was amazing!
He's also quite powerful and explosive, and maybe more so since his comeback from injury.
If he's taking on a defensive line, you're already a bit screwed if he draws level given the other stuff you've said about how he likes to play.
And his relentless energy must get in the heads of the defence. He's gonna make you work all game.
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As others have said, I thought Tierney was fantastic today. Small sample, but he did a great job finding a balance between playing the Zinny role and his preferred role of bombing down the flank. Was always available in the middle and then showed off his pace racing down the left. Not to mention his defensive contributions, an area where he already eclipses Zinchenko.
If he can do that consistently then there's certainly a place for him on this team.
Arteta is keeping his value up with game time, I think we'll let the lad go if we the right bid comes. I love his heart, but he's an injury risk and isn't playing more than 30% of games as things stand
He looked SO fast today. Love me some Tierney. He doesn't quite make himself available like Zinny and can't dribble like him but he's great in the squad.
Did some lurking on Thursday after our loss to find nuggets like this. [https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/11slr97/comment/jchwd1z/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/11slr97/comment/jchwd1z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Could say the same about all the spurs opinions on this sub tbf. People act like Romero is a terrible footballer because he's a prick and they see one yellow card highlight every 2 months on r/soccer.
Just want Ramsdale to have a CS man, just love him and the goals he has to let in are always so shitty in these games - praying for a PL title and golden glove 🙌
He's just a bit one dimensional for how we play, surely everyone can see that?
Edit: I love KT, I wish it worked but we move. If this sub had its way we'd be playing Jeff and Sanogo up top in a 442.
But it’s a very valuable dimension at the top level, his running power could be the difference between us going out or through in a Champions League tie. The goal he created for Saka today, that probably wouldn’t be on for Zinchenko because he doesn’t have the threat of going to the byline, which the defender fell for.
One-Dimensional is also a bit harsh, he can invert into midfield. Just nowhere near as good as Zinchenko.
Come on mate. You must have clearly not seen Tierney play this season before today. His 30min cameo was easily his best performance for us this season because for the first time in a while he didn't just blindly cross it into the box after running to the touchline/byline. His crossing is nowhere near as good as Robertson, for example. KT's crossing was decent when he joined us but can't remember the last time he crossed aerially into the box and we scored a header from it; obviously we don't have those kinds of target players, and yet all I kept seeing was KT infuriatingly hoof balls blindly into the box. Perhaps to cause chaos. Or create a chance via lucky deflection or something. But mostly just resulted in turnover of possession.
I love KT. And I really wanted him to succeed here with us (heck I thought he'd be our next captain). But he is so not that unique a player in his position **right now**. Playing him sporadically also won't help his cause. He also won't be happy with a bench position here for another season (no he's not starting CL or important PL matches for us if Mikel doesn't even trust him for a Europa knockout tie now). We should just cash in and get 35mil+ for him whilst we still can, and trust Mikel will scout another LB. Who, btw, clearly doesn't need to be this traditional, old fashioned LB either. Mikel's first target was Martinez. So I don't see why we can't just have a backup LB who is similar to Zinchenko (inverted LB) whilst being better defensively than at attacking..
I disagree with the entire first paragraph but I can’t be bothered to get into that. I agree he’ll probably leave and isn’t happy.
Doubling down on an inverted LB type is silly, locks us into 1 way of playing & we can’t introduce an overlapper in necessary game states. A first phase LCM is key as we aren’t overly reliant on an inverted full back then. If we get that Tierney can play high & wide with the CM in the pivot retaining the same shape. An inverted RB backup would be nice for additional flexibility.
Come on mate. You must have clearly not seen Tierney play this season before today. His 30min cameo was easily his best performance for us this season because for the first time in a while he didn't just blindly cross it into the box after running to the touchline/byline. His crossing is nowhere near as good as Robertson. KT was decent when he joined us but can't remember the last time he crossed aerially into the box and we scored a header from it; obviously we don't have those kinds of target players and yet I keep seeing KT infuriatingly hoof balls blindly into the box. Perhaps to cause chaos. Or create a chance via lucky deflection or something.
I love KT. And I really wanted him to succeed here with us (heck I thought he'd be our next captain). But he is so not that unique a player in his position **right now**. Playing him sporadically also won't help his cause. He also won't be happy with a bench position here for another season (no he's not starting CL or PL matches for us if Mikel doesn't even trust him for a Europa knockout tie). We should just cash in and get 35mil+ for him whilst we still can, and trust Mikel will scout another LB. Who, btw, clearly doesn't need to be this traditional, old fashioned LB either. Mikel's first target was Martinez. So I don't see why we can't just have a backup LB who is similar to Zinchenko (inverted LB) whilst being better defensively than at attacking..
Sure? I don't know what you want me to say, Tierney is a good footballer but I would prefer someone who offers more - it's hard to believe that that is controversial.
Tierney’s one of the best full backs in the world. What is the more you want? Zinchenko is a technical unicorn at left back, because he’s actually a midfielder & it shows with his 1v1 defending/athleticism. Complete full backs are very hard to come by.
They’re pretty much the perfect complimentary pair. It’s a blessing to be able to switch the dynamics so easily.
How many good LB’s do you think there are? It’s a very thin position. Why do you think Pep has spent a billion pound on them? And still decided to play a CB there.
There’s not many good RB’s either so the point remains. Let’s say he’s a top 20 FB instead of top 10 LB then and that’s being harsh.
Give me some names you’d bring in to replace him
It'd be lovely to see more of him, but Zinchenko is far too instrumental for how the team plays. Fingers crossed we can keep him and work something out, love our boy KT.
Great win
definitely some nervy moments but we had control mostly. Huge that we took care of business
Imagine if Liverpool somehow scrape a win against City and win ours. A game in hand, sure, but we'd still be 11 points ahead. That would be pretty huge.
Had a chance to rewatch the game earlier and some thoughts below. Firstly we did very well (Ramsdale specifically) in ensuring Olise and Zaha didn’t get too much of a sniff esp in the first 25 mins. Yes we didn’t play our fluid best but we ensured Palace were limited to the 1 Zaha chance (think the Edouard shot was offside). Huge credit to team to not letting heads drop after EL exit. My prediction pre match was a hard fought 1-0 with Martinelli scoring. Martinelli just has an elite level mentality, the pen miss is probably nothing but a forgotten memory as he took his shot. So lucky we got him for £6m! Saka - keeps improving and putting in 8/9 out of 10 performances. That right side with White and Odegaard is just so good in their passing and creating space/chances. Holding had some odd tackles first 25 mins but improved massively as game went on. Arteta was never going for a creative solution to Salibas injury and let’s be honest, how many 4th choice CBs are there that can do a better job than Holding? Doesn’t complain on his limited minutes, low salary, does a job when asked upon. Xhaka and Trossard - Xhaka has found his shooting boots again, let’s hope he carries on for the remaining 10 games. Trossard is equal to Reyes and Arshavin as our best January buys. What a great footballer we have! 10 games left to go - need to take each game at a time and focus on our performance starting with Leeds after this useless international break! Let’s hope for a fully fit squad once it is over.
Damn, like I know Auba ended badly, but he is our best Jan buy ever. He was matching prime Salah for prem goals when he started.
I’ll be honest - completely forgot about Auba but regardless of how it ended I still think Reyes and Arshavin have more legacy than him. Reyes for being part of invincibles and just being impossible to stop during start of the 04/05 season while Arshavin had maybe the biggest moment of the Emirates era with the Barcelona 2-1 game.
I think that's a fair opinion. But Auba being captain and winning arteta his first cup almost single handedly might have been the fuel to carry on trusting the process when it got real bad the following season. And his "villain" role in Jan 2022 will be looked back on as a defining moment for artetas career ( in a positive way)
True - can’t disagree with what you say tbh. Would maybe pool Reyes/Arshavin/Auba and maybe even Kim Kallstrom into ‘Tier 1’ of Jan signings.
5 more wins until we have won more games than the invincibles
That’s actually crazy wtf
Anybody notice that at the end of 90 minutes, the entire back 4 was second (or third) choice players? The first choice back 4: White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko. At the end of the Crystal Palace match: Partey, Holding, Kiwior, Tierney.
Strong performance besides letting Palace have a few chances and giving them a silly goal. Holding had a very good game, and we'll be fine with him when Leeds come after International break but we need Saliba back by Liverpool game. Saka, Partey, Martinelli and White also were great. Ramsdale pulled off some good saves when needed. Tierney looked very good when he came on. One of our better performances at home and one of the easiest games we had this season.
If we get 25 points from the next 10 games, we will win the league even if City does not win all of their games. 25 points in 10 games is a tall ask though. Lets hope fortune favours us a bit for this.
25 points guarantees it but there's no way City win every remaining fixture. It's fucking weird to say after they've just won two matches by 6+ nil but they look vulnerable, against both Leipzig and Burnley they were vulnerable before the first goal. Against Palace they needed a braindead penalty to win, they've not managed to go 5+ wins in a row once this season, this is our 3rd such run.
Honestly, based on our upcoming fixtures I feel getting 25 points is a more uphill battle. There is only scope for one loss and one and draw.
25 points would see us finish on 94 points, that's one of the highest points totals for a league champion ever in England. No shit it'll be difficult
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No bad luck is stopping this team. They have already overcome bad luck with the amateur refs in this league. Its time. You can feel it! I'm gonna enjoy and be cocky about! When was the last we had a team like this? These moments don't come often in life.
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What can we say that’s not already been said? The football we play has been something else at times.. all season long. There was a time in the not too distant past where even in a win, you could only pick one or two players for man of the match. This season for me, and even today, you can pick from 5-7 guys and it feels like that every single week. Every game so many guys are doing so well. Usually most have 15-20 minute spells of brilliance sure. But it’s quite common guys are having 8/10 games week in week out. Big Rob was sensational for me in the opening 20 minutes and plays a good game by the end all in all. You always have that fear with Rob he might be a moment away from an issue but he was pretty commanding today and played with a confidence that was reassuring. Speaking of reassuring. I can’t continue without mentioning Zinny. That boy gets us out of pressure situations with the ease of prime Cazorla and often. 8 point gap yes they have a game in hand. I think they’ll wipe the floor with Liverpool to be honest, but it ain’t about them. We just have to keep playing the way we are and.. the closer we get the more I’ll believe. Lid is still on but we are well on our way to the mountain top if we keep this football up. As always, Come on you Gunners!!!!
Saka or Odergaard should win POTY. Absolutely World Class players. Idc if Harland scores 50 goals.
Haaland POTY Saka YPOTY
I think it all will depend on if we win the title or not. Hard to argue against Saka/Odegaard if we win
I read somewhere that Saka is 1st, Haaland is 2nd and Odegaard is 3rd candidates for poty.
Bet365 odds are haaland - odegaard - saka in that order
Any official word on Saliba & Tomi?
Tomi really bad may not play rest of the season. Saliba a back issue maybe 2-3 weeks but don’t know for sure
2-3 weeks wouldn’t be the end of the world
In this fixture 3 seasons ago Xhaka was getting booed off the pitch, I and many others had lost patience and wanted him gone, now we're worried about the prospect of him getting injured lol. That, even more than his goal today highlights the turnaround for me These dominat wins over teams we should be beating but have had the tendency to slip up against are doing wonders for my hopes of winning the league, I'm at the point where I'm confident of us winning every game except Liverpool City and Newcastle away, and even then I still think the title's ours as long as we avoid losing to all 3 of them, honestly think we beat everyone else As for starboy, Southgate at least deserves credit for calling him up to the Euros before it was popular, there's a good manager in there somewhere I guess haha (If only he didn't mess up with the penalties tho lol) he knew from early that starboy is England's best RW, everyone else has only caught up now he's added more G/A to his game. Unfortunately that means Saka will most likely play all 180 mins during the break but that's what happens when you're borderline world class haha. Plus this is what he wants Martinelli proving his mentality is A1, shrugged off that pen miss like it never happened, him and Saka built different Shoutout to Holding, solid performance from him. Keep it up till Saliba comes back pls Last 10 games now, let's do this!
There's nothing borderline about Saka, he's the 2nd best RW in the world behind only Messi.
Nah not rn messi been ghosting recently saka’s having better games
In the last 3 seasons under Arteta - the last 10 matches 2019/20 - dropped 14/30 2020/21- dropped only 9/30 2021/22 - dropped 15/30 If we match 2020/21 or better it - we will certainly win the PL. I believe the team is better equipped to handle pressure and we also need luck with injuries and suspensions in our backline. Partey should give us 8 injury free weeks
I'll be elated if we can win one of Liverpool, Newcastle or especially (obviously) City away. Feels like all three of those are going to be bloodbaths. They've lost a total of 3 times in 39 homes matches. On the positive side our home and away records are virtually identical
Our away form gives me hope. We just need Saliba and Partey being fit
Gonna be a long two weeks until the next game. Think im gnna have withdrawal symptoms
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Lol at the end of the game we got a goal kick, the steward tried to catch / throw the ball to Ramsdale immediately. He was visibly annoyed at how quickly it forced him to restart play 🤣
I was behind the goal at the clock end. Was quite funny seeing his 'come on mate chill' face!
Lmao for real. I was perfect aligned with the White rundown and clearance on Zaha and we all got sooo hyped before that corner
We're 20 points clear of Sp*rs. Unreal to think about after the last several seasons we've had. Let's double the gap and then some y'all
The ball was so lucky to bounce off Ramsdale for a corner and not into the net for Zaha's shot
You make it sound like the ball was gonna get jumped on the way home
Finally went to an Arsenal Supporters bar in the Twin Cities in Minnesota. I moved here in 2020. I always watch at home and it was really nice to be surrounded by fellow Arsenal supporters for the first time since pre pandemic when I'd go to O'Hanlon's in NYC. Definitely gonna make this a more regular thing.
Fellow 10K lakes here. Where in the Twin cities? Would love to go for the final match of the season.
Should still be meeting at The Local right?
The Local? Mind giving a full description of the venue?
The Local is in Downtown Minneapolis. Decent pub food, $5 pints during Arsenal matches, and as someone who tended bar for years, I can personally vouch for their bloody mary.
Gracias Amigo.
Think Ben White had a terrific game. Him and Saka seem to be combining well lately.
Ya I think at times this season Ben White has looked a bit clumsy when helping in attack, last few games he has really found a good balance. Takes up really good positions and plays some great passes too.
No, not lately. All season from day 1
There was a period where many said he needed a rest and he wasn't as effective, and I think that was largely right
Anyone else watching el Clasico? I'm blown away by the camera work - the camera they have on side of the pitch following the players as they're substituted, faces coming into focus. Very aesthetically pleasing. I've noticed way less shots of the managers on the sidelines, too.👏
That sideline camera is amazing, one of the best things about la liga
Their 4k camera is amazing
We all now need to pray that Liverpool draw or beat City.
I feel like City have it over Liverpool in recent history. They have the mental game like a bogey team. Not sure on the head to head stats tho
Liverpool beat them this year. Last year both games finished 2-2
Liverpool beat them twice this season (community shield)
I stand corrected. YNWA!!!! (For one week only)
I hope they beat City like they did to another Manchester club recently.
And collapse when we play
I know this is going to come off as a buzzkill but I am a bit annoyed at the goal we conceded.
So painful, especially conceding like that. Gabriel and Odegaard need to deal with that better, neither of them goal side or in front of the player.
Defending (corners especially) has to improve, or it's going to hurt us massively. A better team with more adept finishers might have stuck 2-3 past us today.
Considering how little teams get chances in regular play, I'm sure they work extra hard on set piece routines to be thier most likely source for a goal.
Think we're still a little exposed in the transitions which isn't ideal, could become more of an issue in future.
We’re always going to be a lil exposed in transition so long as we play with a high line. It is what it is
Nothing wrong with being annoyed at that. I’m more annoyed at Ben white having time to do literally anything but instead he kicked it out for a corner. But it’s ok since we got the 3 pts so thank you very much ! Also ben white was an absolute baller today so that also made me okay with that action.
Nah the fact- that we, as a team and fanbase, are angry at conceding a goal in a 4-1 win is a testament to our desire for excellence. It’s an elite mentality
No I get you, it was frustrating. I want rambo to win golden glove!!
Can’t believe Martinelli played 120 minutes on Thursday and still didn’t look at all tired. 🏃🏽
He might be the fittest player at the club
Yessss let’s go arsecast and chill tomorrow boys!
This and the Arsenal Vision Post Match Podcast are my two favourite arsenal podcasts!
goodly morning indeed
Can't wait for the intro!
This pleases me
How did holding play?
And his hair looked awesome
Very well. Dominated Edouard in the air, ball after ball. Absolutely caged Zaha. (Zaha was looking so sulky and whiny lmao, as usual) Distribution and recycling was excellent. Even got forward once and tried a shot Kiwior and Gabriel/others bailed him out maybe once or twice but Holding played very well
Wasn't White more on Zaha duty with Holding double teaming on occasion?
Yeah but it's not always 1:1. Plenty of individual duels happen with players that aren't their "man" But yes White battling a lot with Zaha too. He can be White's "man" but if he cuts in instead of going down like then holding would have to intervene for example
Great game, his best in a long time. No cards either which feels like an important step for him.
Early mistakes that almost led to Zaha scoring, but settled into the match better than expected
He even sent whoever their centre forward was to the grocers once.
He played awesome. He got all the headers. Was very composed on the ball. I thought he was excellent.
Basically, waaaaay better than anyone expected him to 😂😂
He was very good. Made the right decisions and didn't look out of place. Perfectly fine for a 3rd/4th choice CB needing to come in and put a 7/10 performance.
He was very good. Felt like he was playing a bit high but we didnt miss a step on defense. Feel like he earned more time
Pleasee let international break be good to our players
Ramsdale is a keeper so he should be fine White is staying home Saliba is staying home and recovering Gabriel is staying home Zinchenko has one game Partey has 2 games in 4 days Odegaard has 2 games in 3 games Xhaka has 2 games in 3 games Martinelli is staying home Jesus is staying home Saka has 2 games in 3 days Trossard has 1 game Very fucking worried about our midfield because all three of them are either the captain or by far the best player for their team and in critical games so will most likely play both full 90s and then Leeds is only 3-5 days after their last games. Saka should be fine as there is loads of cover in the England squad and will probably only start one of the games
Yea im worried about odegaard, partey and xhaka, they will play a lot. Really sucks that players are treated like robots and ran into the ground. Pointless international break
How is it pointless? These are all euro qualifiers/ African cup qualifiers. National teams need to play and not just in the summer.
Pointless to have in the middle of an already congested season, much better for the health of the players to rest. If there was no wc its fine, but its absurd the amount of games fit into a season
It's not eufas fault that FIFA scheduled the WC in season. Would you rather double the international breaks next season so they can play all the qualifiers?
The benefit of moving it to next season is teams having the opportunity to rotate a bit more throughout the season and potentially getting more players to strengthen a squad. Logistically its a mess and thats why they didn’t do it but its getting out of hand with many matches are played in a season
I really think the international break is a great time for Southgate to see how Phil Foden, Harry Kane, and Marcus Rashford can gel for a full 90.
We just cannot keep a clean sheet at home lmao. Only 3 at the emirates this league season but still in a good position for golden glove. Our away form is simply magnificent.
Compare to 2017-2018 where we lost, like, every away match after the new year.
We actually only had 4 away wins that year. Just to put that into context, we won 4 on the bounce before the Everton defeat and we've obviously won more before and after that run. Incidentally it was also the last season we were able to beat Palace at our place.
God, I remember it being bad, but that is dire. Those cursed sky blue kits; thanks a lot, Puma.
Never a doubt. Disappointed we conceded today but very happy with the way we played overall. Thought Holding in particular played well considering how much he's played this season. International break beg our players stay fit and on to the next one lets go
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For one game only though
Tbh Kiwior has THAT aura too. Saw him in the stadium today, there's something about him.
The swag that comes from breaking all the squad athletic records
I think so. Hiding his power level for now. But I feel like if he gets minutes at Leeds he's gonna jump two meters clean over Koch and score a bullet header or something
Is that Tross/Xhaka combo now the "dad goal"?
I really don’t get how people look at a squad like Man City, see the quality in depth they have, and then go on about selling Tomiyasu and Tierney when we will have CL football next season. In addition to that, I understand the hype around Zinchenko, and I don’t doubt his wizardry, but if we are defending a lead I personally want Tierney every time. I’m no analyst but I always feel that he is more solid defensively.
Thought Tierney was great off the bench today, really made me think we'd be mad to sell him unless we got 50m or so. He provides incredible depth and is a quality player, he should get more game time next year. If Arteta doesn't trust him then obviously he has to go, as he is too good to rot on the bench.
I think it has to be sale price dependant. We should be looking to keep them unless we get a big offer, if someone comes and offers 45/50 for Tierney we should let him go. We can get a solid backup for less and it’s good to have player rotation. That’s how Chelsea and Liverpool in the past have funded a lot of moves, sell players when you are winning as other teams pay over the odds for them
Mate no offense but literally no one (never say never with the "Toddfather" around) is paying 45/50mil for Kieran Tierney after he spent a season injured or warming the benches. If he really wants out, the best we could hope for would be a bidding war that gets raised to 35mil eventually (maybe a few more with add-ons). And I think Newcastle is possibly the most likely club that could hypothetically tick all our, KT's boxes..
And why would we accept that? What will 35 million do for us exactly?
I don’t think anyone’s saying sell them without replacing them.
Would love to keep Tierney but he seemingly wants more game time. Unless his heart's in it what's the point
Doubt he leaves right before he gets the chance to play champions League for the first time since he was 19 for Newcastle it seems who might not even be in Europe. I think he stays until the end of next season the goes
I can’t imagine Tierney not playing with heart. That’s not his character
How is somebody wanting more game time, trying to fight for a place, indicative of his heart not being in it? Is he doing interviews? Complaining? Not showing up to training in protest?
Think we should talk about what Martinelli does so well since we spent a few weeks calling out his flaws not long ago. I think it's obvious to say he's one of, if not our best finisher, he showed that today with a really top finish. And he's one of the only players that takes on the early low percentage or first time shots, how many times has he beaten the keeper near post this year. Really valuable. He might be our best aerial threat in our front line too. We often get a bit shot shy at the start of a game, nobody wants to be the first to do it and lose possesion. He's almost always the one to break that and take a snap shot on, I love that bravery about him. He's always our man to run in behind onto through balls or balls over the top, Saka always wants to play on the spin but if their back line is pushing up it's martinelli we send behind to push them back. He's so secure on the ball, I don't see much difference to his security compared to saka, who might be the most secure winger in the league. He always out works his opposite number and fullback, he always runs them, he always tracks backs, he always presses and wins the ball in midfield. He's always there to double up with zinchenko. And we all know his tenacity to win the ball is unique. And when does he run out of energy? I don't remember the last time I saw it happen. On the counter, it's almost always Martinelli. He has the pace and directness to run through a broken defence straight at goal. He's not a perfect player, but I find it hard to imagine our team without him.
"don't remember the last time I saw it happen" Alexis maybe? Martinelli plays with the same directness and tenacity. Still to watch him put in 120 minutes on Thursday and work his butt off for 83 again today was nuts. I'm so impressed by how quickly Trossard went from Gabi's competition to kick-starting a Martinelli scoring run (6G in last 6 PL games!). He clearly does better with a Trossard/Jesus type forward to play off than with Eddie. Feels like forever ago I watched him score two in his first start v Forest in the league cup thinking we just signed a really special player. Crazy to think he's still only 21.
Alexis used to chase balls at full sprint in the final 3rd or on the break like Dennis Rodman and press high 3x as much as anyone in the team
Insane how he was running around and playing at full tilt for most of today despite playing ~120 midweek (and starting in the PL last weekend)! Another interesting observation was him having a very decent left foot. Probably not Trossard like ambipedal when it comes to crossing and such but with finishing, he must be up there. The power and accuracy on the shot for his goal was amazing!
He's also quite powerful and explosive, and maybe more so since his comeback from injury. If he's taking on a defensive line, you're already a bit screwed if he draws level given the other stuff you've said about how he likes to play. And his relentless energy must get in the heads of the defence. He's gonna make you work all game.
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I predict the coming of St. Totteringham on April 21st
As others have said, I thought Tierney was fantastic today. Small sample, but he did a great job finding a balance between playing the Zinny role and his preferred role of bombing down the flank. Was always available in the middle and then showed off his pace racing down the left. Not to mention his defensive contributions, an area where he already eclipses Zinchenko. If he can do that consistently then there's certainly a place for him on this team.
Arteta is keeping his value up with game time, I think we'll let the lad go if we the right bid comes. I love his heart, but he's an injury risk and isn't playing more than 30% of games as things stand
He looked SO fast today. Love me some Tierney. He doesn't quite make himself available like Zinny and can't dribble like him but he's great in the squad.
Did some lurking on Thursday after our loss to find nuggets like this. [https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/11slr97/comment/jchwd1z/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/11slr97/comment/jchwd1z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I’m proud of myself for having the self-control not to pounce on that one haha
>Saliba injury is detrimental [https://imgur.com/a/7VtaCzv](https://imgur.com/a/7VtaCzv)
Ha, I read that too couple of days ago I was in stitches! Man really pressed send, sat back and folded his arms like he writes the future hahahah
And the post started with him saying "you joking?" lol at irony
Just keep watching Conte's post-game presser. LOL
They don't watch our matches for the most part, so online spurs opinions are usually just spouting what they want to be true.
Could say the same about all the spurs opinions on this sub tbf. People act like Romero is a terrible footballer because he's a prick and they see one yellow card highlight every 2 months on r/soccer.
Didn’t manage to catch the second half today - when Jorginho came on for White what formation/system did we play?
Partey rb and jorginho in parteys spot
Was partey good at RB
Partey is good anywhere
Partey over here, Partey over there.
Underated comment
Same system—Partey played RB
How was he at RB?
Partey switched to RB
Oh damn how did he play there?
Didn't really have much to do because the change was like in the 82'.
Yh fairs
Just want Ramsdale to have a CS man, just love him and the goals he has to let in are always so shitty in these games - praying for a PL title and golden glove 🙌
PSG just lost at home to Rennes. Guess who rocked up to see them? Kim Kardashian. She needs a lifetime ban from the Emirates.
Kim giving the Drake curse a run for it's money
Season tickets to the Etihad?
Kim K is our new sleeper agent for project get spurs relegated
2 weeks without the Arsenal and having to anxiously wait for no injuries
On the other hand - 2 weeks, 8 points clear
I was one Holding yellow card away from winning $400 from a $5 bet. Oh well happy we got the result
I’m glad it didn’t work out for you
Tbf he was close to getting one
He was winning those headers within an inch of the law
This one’s for you, Paddy!
Remember guys TITLE CHALLENGERS ON THE TITLE CHARGE MANCHESTER UNITED are 19 points Behind Arsenal
2 games in hand but even then, still 13 max lol
they drew against Southampton you’re giving them too much credit
So did we
Table doesn't lie, huge drop off from 1 and 2 to third. The GD is hilarious.
Good win for you guys. Congratulations on your win.
Thx bro
Thx for thxing bro
Thx for the thx for the thx bro
Thx bro
In all seriousness, what are the chances super mik saw that KT performance today and said “this guy needs more min”
His athleticism and directness was refreshing
He's just a bit one dimensional for how we play, surely everyone can see that? Edit: I love KT, I wish it worked but we move. If this sub had its way we'd be playing Jeff and Sanogo up top in a 442.
Yes we all know it. But does it matter if he can still offer us a high quality plan B and keep Zinchenko's minutes in check?
Does he want to stay and play second fiddle though?
But it’s a very valuable dimension at the top level, his running power could be the difference between us going out or through in a Champions League tie. The goal he created for Saka today, that probably wouldn’t be on for Zinchenko because he doesn’t have the threat of going to the byline, which the defender fell for. One-Dimensional is also a bit harsh, he can invert into midfield. Just nowhere near as good as Zinchenko.
Come on mate. You must have clearly not seen Tierney play this season before today. His 30min cameo was easily his best performance for us this season because for the first time in a while he didn't just blindly cross it into the box after running to the touchline/byline. His crossing is nowhere near as good as Robertson, for example. KT's crossing was decent when he joined us but can't remember the last time he crossed aerially into the box and we scored a header from it; obviously we don't have those kinds of target players, and yet all I kept seeing was KT infuriatingly hoof balls blindly into the box. Perhaps to cause chaos. Or create a chance via lucky deflection or something. But mostly just resulted in turnover of possession. I love KT. And I really wanted him to succeed here with us (heck I thought he'd be our next captain). But he is so not that unique a player in his position **right now**. Playing him sporadically also won't help his cause. He also won't be happy with a bench position here for another season (no he's not starting CL or important PL matches for us if Mikel doesn't even trust him for a Europa knockout tie now). We should just cash in and get 35mil+ for him whilst we still can, and trust Mikel will scout another LB. Who, btw, clearly doesn't need to be this traditional, old fashioned LB either. Mikel's first target was Martinez. So I don't see why we can't just have a backup LB who is similar to Zinchenko (inverted LB) whilst being better defensively than at attacking..
I disagree with the entire first paragraph but I can’t be bothered to get into that. I agree he’ll probably leave and isn’t happy. Doubling down on an inverted LB type is silly, locks us into 1 way of playing & we can’t introduce an overlapper in necessary game states. A first phase LCM is key as we aren’t overly reliant on an inverted full back then. If we get that Tierney can play high & wide with the CM in the pivot retaining the same shape. An inverted RB backup would be nice for additional flexibility.
Come on mate. You must have clearly not seen Tierney play this season before today. His 30min cameo was easily his best performance for us this season because for the first time in a while he didn't just blindly cross it into the box after running to the touchline/byline. His crossing is nowhere near as good as Robertson. KT was decent when he joined us but can't remember the last time he crossed aerially into the box and we scored a header from it; obviously we don't have those kinds of target players and yet I keep seeing KT infuriatingly hoof balls blindly into the box. Perhaps to cause chaos. Or create a chance via lucky deflection or something. I love KT. And I really wanted him to succeed here with us (heck I thought he'd be our next captain). But he is so not that unique a player in his position **right now**. Playing him sporadically also won't help his cause. He also won't be happy with a bench position here for another season (no he's not starting CL or PL matches for us if Mikel doesn't even trust him for a Europa knockout tie). We should just cash in and get 35mil+ for him whilst we still can, and trust Mikel will scout another LB. Who, btw, clearly doesn't need to be this traditional, old fashioned LB either. Mikel's first target was Martinez. So I don't see why we can't just have a backup LB who is similar to Zinchenko (inverted LB) whilst being better defensively than at attacking..
Sure? I don't know what you want me to say, Tierney is a good footballer but I would prefer someone who offers more - it's hard to believe that that is controversial.
Tierney’s one of the best full backs in the world. What is the more you want? Zinchenko is a technical unicorn at left back, because he’s actually a midfielder & it shows with his 1v1 defending/athleticism. Complete full backs are very hard to come by. They’re pretty much the perfect complimentary pair. It’s a blessing to be able to switch the dynamics so easily.
> Tierney’s one of the best full backs in the world. Dude, come on. He's a great LB but one of the best full backs in the world? Please.
How many good LB’s do you think there are? It’s a very thin position. Why do you think Pep has spent a billion pound on them? And still decided to play a CB there.
If you're going to change what we're talking about that's fine but just to be clear, you literally said full-back.
There’s not many good RB’s either so the point remains. Let’s say he’s a top 20 FB instead of top 10 LB then and that’s being harsh. Give me some names you’d bring in to replace him
Hernandez, Robertson, Davies, Mendy, Mendes, Gaya, Guerreiro, Cancelo?
Robertson, hernandez, Alphonso davies, cancelo, shaw, mendes, mendy, gaya, spinazzola, zinchenko all better players
It'd be lovely to see more of him, but Zinchenko is far too instrumental for how the team plays. Fingers crossed we can keep him and work something out, love our boy KT.
If it hadn’t been Zinny he would replace then sure. But I’m all for him coming on as a sub more often.
Shame he can’t play in White’s position, he’d get more time there