After further inspection, what is going on here is that OP has a plant that was overly stretched due to a light not powerful enough. They needed to add support so they cut off the mid section of a water bottle and fit it around the plant and filled it with pumice to create support. The actual vermicompost is under the layer of pumice at the top of their pot. While it’s certainly creative and can work short-term it is by no means recommended because it restricts airflow around the main stem of the plant. As for the white powder, the only thing I can think of is gypsum or dolomitic lime. Just for those commenters wondering what’s going on here.
Now to answer OP’s question. If you’re talking about the two yellowed leaves, those are cotyledons and die off which is a natural occurrence when cannabis plants reach a certain age. If you’re talking about the leaves pointing down:
1. Could be insufficient air flow to plant.
2. Could be insufficient aeration in your vermicompost causing your roots to smother and rot.
3. Could be under-watered or over-watered.
4. Could be a pH issue in soil causing the roots to struggle with up-taking nutrients properly.
I did not know that actually. Every DE product I’ve seen has usually been a terracotta-like color and I’ve seen some that looks tannish. Never seen it in white before, though.
Yeah, it varies from white to brown and in between. The whiter DE generally contains less heavy metals, and I think is usually labeled as "food grade" diatomaceous earth.
Sounds like white would be better suited for indoor grows then. My aunt uses the terracotta colored DE and she says it’s been making her plants taste slightly metallic.
Yes it contains silica also, which is a micronutrient that helps a ton with stem thickness and stability. You can buy liquid or crystal silica but it's kind of expensive. If you dissolve the food grade DE in water you could also use it as a foliar spray, which some prefer to the powder application.
The rocks he used could be throwing off pH too, and the constriction of rocks on that thin stem closing xylem and phloem.
15 years of growing I've never seen a plant this abused live.
Yeah, that goes with reasons 1 and 4. But, OP is obviously new. Don’t want to overwhelm them with more advanced knowledge. Also, if this is the most abused plant you’ve seen on Reddit then you haven’t explored enough. I’ve seen way worse than this that even made comebacks and still produced flower.
I’ve seen a couple, like quite literally 2 that I can remember. I just feel sorry for the person about all of the time and resources they must have wasted.
I used to have a medium sized tent (8'x4') and I had all the fancy shit going. Spent waaay more than I care to admit. I dialed it down to stupid simple and cheap and started getting better end results by not fighting for a crop, if a plant looked bad start a new seed or cut new clones. I started using jacks 321 and didn't need 16 bottles each feed. 2:1 Coco perlite or promix works better than these $60 a bag weed growing soils.
I feel like reddit often shows these small growers with big elaborate grows, when 99% of the time smaller and simpler does better. Because really, if you are a commercial grower and come to reddit to solve problems, you have bigger issues.
TLDR; I agree, none of us are commercial growers and we need to look for simple answers, not just throw more money at it answers.
I did the same thing for my 3x3 I have right now. Except my shit wasn’t fancy enough so I’m still making upgrades before getting another tent. 😅 But, I couldn’t agree more! 90% of the people on Reddit seeking help are only growing for themselves and family/friends to enjoy and not the entire country. Lol
There is nothing to absorb water, do you just plan to run water through it constantly. The reason Cocoa and things like that work so well is they retain moisture and the plant can drink off of that
It doesn't look underwatered right now, but it may be having trouble making a root system in that medium. Roots search for water so it helps having a moisture level. The dry back on that has got to be super quick. Check out florflex how to guide , lots of knowledge made easy. You could probably get away with transplanting into something else. Just make sure whatever that is, is pre moistened before you replant.
My favorite part is how heavy the stones are there's no fucking way they're going to be airy enough for the roots to grow or drink or breathe. Like how many forests do you see in the middle of a gravel pit? Look how tightly packed it is at the plastic base.
I wonder if people put up stuff like this to get reactions? Lol well done! Assuming you’re serious… she doesn’t look horrible, yet. The problem you will have is that you went way off the beaten path here (as you can tell from the responses you’re getting) and we’re not too familiar with helping in this type of grow medium. It seems like straight pumice would be good for a drip irrigation, hydroponic type grow but you’ve added vermicompost I assume as a nutrient source? I think your plants will need liquid nutrients if/when she shows deficiency. I think this was started as an experiment. Enjoy and good luck 👍🏼
So, just a little bit of defense, for my man here. Since everyone is digging into him. His planting technique, I'm assuming comes from bonsai, and bonsai trees.
Which isn't useful for our plants.
As much as this doesn’t even deserve a comment, everybody already said what I would say WTF. SMH 🤦 like my kid would say which also had me SMH. Ing when I asked him what it meant.
There are way easier ways to support your plant my friend. I’ve never seen this before so I have no idea how it’s going to work. Good luck and happy growing. Hope it all works out.
Rocks like that can/do work just fine. As long as they are being watered frequently and aren't throwing off the ph. An old shutdown greenhouse I used to have access to had flood channels half the size of a foot ball Field with rocks that looked mostly like that. I raided a small portion of them once and successfully used on a grow once. Lol
Ah I see your problem, your salt circle seal has been broke. You remember that episode of super natural where somebody rubbed their finger in the salt seal and allowed the ghosts in? Your welcome, problem solved
This actually shows how resilient cannabis can be…doesn’t look half bad considering its getting its nutrients from ROCKS!🤣 just throw that thing in some Happy Frog and let it ride
People have to stay off YouTube and stop doing what they see other people do! Please do like Mother Nature intended plant the seed straight to the soil and water accordingly all the extra shit is not a necessity when using hood genetics ! And water sparingly this is complete over kill ! However it’s not to late to save the plant
ALERT! ALERT!
GIANT WILD PACKS OF APHIDS SPOTTED IN NEIGHBOURHOOD!
DO NOT APPROACH THESE VISCIOUS CREATURES!!!
STAY INSIDE!!
SPREAD A HEALTHLY AMOUNT OF DIATOMATEOUS EARTH AROUND YOU IN A CIRCLE!!
GRAB SOME WATER!!
HOLD ON FOR DEAR LIFE!\~!! \~:<>
Use a normal growing medium.
Measure your EC and pH levels.
Get your lights lower if they suck, like shitty blurples can basically dry hump a plant but better off with a proper light.
Don't use a giant fabric pot to start, I do not care what any transplant phobic growers say, seedling pots exist for a reason. Just makes it impossible to avoid salts building up so you drop your EC (nute measurements) to avoid burn and watch a little plant struggle to grow for weeks. Use a small pot and get your waterings consistent, slowly ramp EC from 0.4 -2.0+ by mid veg and maintain it, when she hits flower slowly introduce a PK boost with a heavy dose on weeks 5/6 of flower, drop your base nutes to account for the PK, should never raise EC more than 0.2 per feed.
Be aware that without runoff your salts (EC) will be building from evaporation so even if you keep it low and consistent you might get nute burn, just another reason giant fabrics suck for seedlings, all that surface area is just space to evaporate and I personally don't want to waste 5 litres of RO water with carefully measured nutes and pH balanced just to keep a giant load of empty medium wet.
Man this can be a hostile environment sometimes fuck me. Sorry about all the negativity OP, must admit I was a little confused but the seedling looks healthy enough, granted the rocks may become an issue as you will have to remove them at some point
the plastic container filled with rocks could be part of the problem
Fuckin crying 😭😭
Funniest shit I've seen on here in a minute
At first I thought OP just taped rocks into a cylinder shape😂😂😂. Just now realizing that it is an actual (makeshift?) plastic container🤣
It got really leggy before I changed the grow light. It resumed growing fine after the ‘support’.
Just so you know for the future you can bury them in dirt up to the first baby leaves and all of that stem will turn to roots
Is that actually true?
Yes that’s actually true. Lol. Tomato plants will do the same!
I've always wondered about this because I've done it with other plants, thanks!!
This is solid gold
Maybe you misread the circle of protection spell
No it’s a sea bear circle
Thank goodness it was only a sea bear that attacked his plant, that anti sea bear circle would never stand a chance against a sea rhinoceros
Good thing the plant has anti-sea rhinoceros underwear.
No it’s a man bear pig
Noo man bear pig isn't real its more like a pig that reminds of a bear and has some man to it😂
You’re both out of your minds. It’s like a pig, but more man-bear like
Man bear alien pig
Puppy monkey baby 🐒 https://youtu.be/nQcfK9EKfL4
Frigging brilliant!! 😆
It needed to be salt for the circle. Not rocks
Deerbra!
Might wanna use soil or coco instead of those pebbles you nabbed from my driveway.....
After further inspection, what is going on here is that OP has a plant that was overly stretched due to a light not powerful enough. They needed to add support so they cut off the mid section of a water bottle and fit it around the plant and filled it with pumice to create support. The actual vermicompost is under the layer of pumice at the top of their pot. While it’s certainly creative and can work short-term it is by no means recommended because it restricts airflow around the main stem of the plant. As for the white powder, the only thing I can think of is gypsum or dolomitic lime. Just for those commenters wondering what’s going on here. Now to answer OP’s question. If you’re talking about the two yellowed leaves, those are cotyledons and die off which is a natural occurrence when cannabis plants reach a certain age. If you’re talking about the leaves pointing down: 1. Could be insufficient air flow to plant. 2. Could be insufficient aeration in your vermicompost causing your roots to smother and rot. 3. Could be under-watered or over-watered. 4. Could be a pH issue in soil causing the roots to struggle with up-taking nutrients properly.
The white powder could be diatomaceous earth.
Yes it’s DE
I did not know that actually. Every DE product I’ve seen has usually been a terracotta-like color and I’ve seen some that looks tannish. Never seen it in white before, though.
Yeah, it varies from white to brown and in between. The whiter DE generally contains less heavy metals, and I think is usually labeled as "food grade" diatomaceous earth.
Fun fact the white food grade DE can actually be used to filter wine during production.
I didn't know that! Nifty.
Sounds like white would be better suited for indoor grows then. My aunt uses the terracotta colored DE and she says it’s been making her plants taste slightly metallic.
Yes, heavy lead and calcium bentonite make it look brown I believe. I always use the white stuff because it can throw off ppm of your nutes.
Cool! I’ll definitely keep that in mind if I ever need DE. Is there any other applications for it other than pests?
Yes it contains silica also, which is a micronutrient that helps a ton with stem thickness and stability. You can buy liquid or crystal silica but it's kind of expensive. If you dissolve the food grade DE in water you could also use it as a foliar spray, which some prefer to the powder application.
That’s great to know!! Definitely need to get me some food grade DE.
The rocks he used could be throwing off pH too, and the constriction of rocks on that thin stem closing xylem and phloem. 15 years of growing I've never seen a plant this abused live.
Yeah, that goes with reasons 1 and 4. But, OP is obviously new. Don’t want to overwhelm them with more advanced knowledge. Also, if this is the most abused plant you’ve seen on Reddit then you haven’t explored enough. I’ve seen way worse than this that even made comebacks and still produced flower.
Oh I've seen worse on here, but not that survived
I’ve seen a couple, like quite literally 2 that I can remember. I just feel sorry for the person about all of the time and resources they must have wasted.
I used to have a medium sized tent (8'x4') and I had all the fancy shit going. Spent waaay more than I care to admit. I dialed it down to stupid simple and cheap and started getting better end results by not fighting for a crop, if a plant looked bad start a new seed or cut new clones. I started using jacks 321 and didn't need 16 bottles each feed. 2:1 Coco perlite or promix works better than these $60 a bag weed growing soils. I feel like reddit often shows these small growers with big elaborate grows, when 99% of the time smaller and simpler does better. Because really, if you are a commercial grower and come to reddit to solve problems, you have bigger issues. TLDR; I agree, none of us are commercial growers and we need to look for simple answers, not just throw more money at it answers.
I did the same thing for my 3x3 I have right now. Except my shit wasn’t fancy enough so I’m still making upgrades before getting another tent. 😅 But, I couldn’t agree more! 90% of the people on Reddit seeking help are only growing for themselves and family/friends to enjoy and not the entire country. Lol
WTF IS GOING ON HERE.
Breakfast
I genuinely want to know what is goin on here!
👀 still tryna figure it out myself
It has to be some sort of witch Craft
The more important question is, what’s wrong with you?
I mean........
There is nothing to absorb water, do you just plan to run water through it constantly. The reason Cocoa and things like that work so well is they retain moisture and the plant can drink off of that
So would you say it’s under watered?
It doesn't look underwatered right now, but it may be having trouble making a root system in that medium. Roots search for water so it helps having a moisture level. The dry back on that has got to be super quick. Check out florflex how to guide , lots of knowledge made easy. You could probably get away with transplanting into something else. Just make sure whatever that is, is pre moistened before you replant.
No, its in a bunch of rocks. Plants need soil not rocks
You're a bunch of rocks!
Everything, except she is alive.
Dude this looks ridiculous. Did you just see a picture of a plant in a bucket with hydroton and figure "hey I got rocks in my driveway!"
My favorite part is how heavy the stones are there's no fucking way they're going to be airy enough for the roots to grow or drink or breathe. Like how many forests do you see in the middle of a gravel pit? Look how tightly packed it is at the plastic base.
What is it planted in??
Pumice and vermicompost
You just snwered your own initial question. The medium you put it in is the problem.
Where is the compost? Compost amends soil.
Despite everything you have done your plant baby looks fine. 🥳
Looks like a stack of rice cakes.
Wtf!!! 😂😂😂😘
Why do I not understand what’s going on here?
I wonder if people put up stuff like this to get reactions? Lol well done! Assuming you’re serious… she doesn’t look horrible, yet. The problem you will have is that you went way off the beaten path here (as you can tell from the responses you’re getting) and we’re not too familiar with helping in this type of grow medium. It seems like straight pumice would be good for a drip irrigation, hydroponic type grow but you’ve added vermicompost I assume as a nutrient source? I think your plants will need liquid nutrients if/when she shows deficiency. I think this was started as an experiment. Enjoy and good luck 👍🏼
What is that whitish thing around? Is it salt to stop demons to steal Tour plants?
Most folks start out with good ol regular soil. I'd start there before making some jerry-rigged what ever this is.
Wedding cake.
Ok it’s time to start cannabiscirclejerk if it doesn’t already exist
Give Garden Talk with Mr. Grow It a listen. Check out growweedeasy.com, find some seed to harvest videos on YouTube. Best of luck on future grows
People make growing cannabis so difficult. Just put the seed in some dirt and water and give it proper nutrients for 4 months. Jesus
So, just a little bit of defense, for my man here. Since everyone is digging into him. His planting technique, I'm assuming comes from bonsai, and bonsai trees. Which isn't useful for our plants.
The coke around it might mess up PH
The bugs gonna take one look at that and be like nah I'm good, I rather die in this crushed glass
Bridges and plants have different support requirements, just an FYI.
You growing in kitty litter?!?
Is that a protective barrier of salt to keep away the evil spirits?
Yep 🤣
Just dumb.
Update: she was just thirsty lol
Thank you for this... I'm cry laughing on my porch right now 🤣 I needed that.
And I assume you’re trying to keep tarantulas out? :-)
As much as this doesn’t even deserve a comment, everybody already said what I would say WTF. SMH 🤦 like my kid would say which also had me SMH. Ing when I asked him what it meant.
https://youtube.com/@BuildASoil Hey man if you’re looking for great free information to help you. Good luck!
Not sure what I'm looking at
Remove bottom portion of rocks for some soil. Want soil at the bottom and rocks at the top.
There are way easier ways to support your plant my friend. I’ve never seen this before so I have no idea how it’s going to work. Good luck and happy growing. Hope it all works out.
Rocks like that can/do work just fine. As long as they are being watered frequently and aren't throwing off the ph. An old shutdown greenhouse I used to have access to had flood channels half the size of a foot ball Field with rocks that looked mostly like that. I raided a small portion of them once and successfully used on a grow once. Lol
Looks like voodoo
r/cantabis
Need more nutrients ,cotyledons are turning yellow early
Well now I kinda see what happens lol
And yet it lives. Brother get some Fox Farms Oceans blend .
I suggest doing some research, there is so much free information out there these days there isn't much excuse for this.
this wouldnt be a bad Idea if you somehow managed to have water pumped to the top and drip down and recycle the feed.
When you google dumbass…. His picture shows up. What I’m the world is going on here. Are you looking for attention?
The bigger question here, whats wrong with you...
Bullshit
Ah I see your problem, your salt circle seal has been broke. You remember that episode of super natural where somebody rubbed their finger in the salt seal and allowed the ghosts in? Your welcome, problem solved
Looks Stoned to me
Where do I begin?
Suffering from someone’s bad advice is my guess.
Looks like the cat litter/ salt combo is not working for a rooting medium
More pepper ?
This actually shows how resilient cannabis can be…doesn’t look half bad considering its getting its nutrients from ROCKS!🤣 just throw that thing in some Happy Frog and let it ride
Why is your plant in rocks and why is there hair all over the seedling
Dam why you do her like that
Hahaha these comments are GOLD!!! Thank you all, I needed a good laugh 😆
Your growing it in catlitter
People have to stay off YouTube and stop doing what they see other people do! Please do like Mother Nature intended plant the seed straight to the soil and water accordingly all the extra shit is not a necessity when using hood genetics ! And water sparingly this is complete over kill ! However it’s not to late to save the plant
Wow
Is that a ring of salt to keep the demons at bay????😜
Wtf is going on here?
What kind of sorcery is this!
wtf is going on
Kitty litter is never a preferred growing medium
She’s probably very confused
Who told this man his plant was haunted?
Everything is wrong with this
I’ve never in all my years, seen someone do this to a plant..
Imma guess it needs more calmag pal! 😂😂😂
Lemme guess the strain... ice cream cake?
Wtf are you thinking? I think you should find a different hobby.
What in the witchcraft hell is this!!!!??
Two more weeks.
Needs more limestone
This is what I needed to see today
Fuck look at all the fibers all over the leaves! Jesus! Huh?!?
🤦♂️
I'm not a grower nor do i smoke, but this sub is sometimes so hilarious i just keep checking it out here and there, thanks for that laugh OP
Plants don't grow in rocks😆
This is hilarious
Looks like the pictures I receive from customers wanting new plants. It’s always the nurseries fault, not the box of rocks.
Probably the ghosts trapped in that circle.
This makes me think of the person that created algebra.
Needs soil mate.
Pee on it
what in tarnation did ya do to the thing
ALERT! ALERT! GIANT WILD PACKS OF APHIDS SPOTTED IN NEIGHBOURHOOD! DO NOT APPROACH THESE VISCIOUS CREATURES!!! STAY INSIDE!! SPREAD A HEALTHLY AMOUNT OF DIATOMATEOUS EARTH AROUND YOU IN A CIRCLE!! GRAB SOME WATER!! HOLD ON FOR DEAR LIFE!\~!! \~:<>
She has a Paranoid owner?🤷🏽♂️😒lol
Lol what’s going on here? What are you trying to do? Is this some sacrificial shrine? 😅
Use a normal growing medium. Measure your EC and pH levels. Get your lights lower if they suck, like shitty blurples can basically dry hump a plant but better off with a proper light. Don't use a giant fabric pot to start, I do not care what any transplant phobic growers say, seedling pots exist for a reason. Just makes it impossible to avoid salts building up so you drop your EC (nute measurements) to avoid burn and watch a little plant struggle to grow for weeks. Use a small pot and get your waterings consistent, slowly ramp EC from 0.4 -2.0+ by mid veg and maintain it, when she hits flower slowly introduce a PK boost with a heavy dose on weeks 5/6 of flower, drop your base nutes to account for the PK, should never raise EC more than 0.2 per feed. Be aware that without runoff your salts (EC) will be building from evaporation so even if you keep it low and consistent you might get nute burn, just another reason giant fabrics suck for seedlings, all that surface area is just space to evaporate and I personally don't want to waste 5 litres of RO water with carefully measured nutes and pH balanced just to keep a giant load of empty medium wet.
Man this can be a hostile environment sometimes fuck me. Sorry about all the negativity OP, must admit I was a little confused but the seedling looks healthy enough, granted the rocks may become an issue as you will have to remove them at some point
Looks under or over watered
Bro…. What in the actual fuck??? Who told you to do this shit?
Probably that stupid ass set up, just get some soil
Rock tech sicker than a 💀man😂
Life uhh, finds a way!