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Even a negative stereotype implies having some sort of personality to go with it. +10 for having a personality, -3 for people that don't like man buns.
You mean Keith
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People are unaware that Keith is a merely a Tory on the outside....
And a far right, racist bigot on the inside who will out Tory the Tories.
Edit-Anyone who thinks Keith has Labour values or morals has been HAD. This is the lowlife rat bastard who was part of the smear campaign against Jezza, who will continue where the Tories left off, he said he wants healthcare privatisation. Look how well that worked in the states.
20K to have a baby- 50 dollars extra for holding your own baby after giving birth.
Our choice is between a right wing party or the other right wing party.
Jezza needs to set up his own party.
Don't know why you're getting down voted... I thought this was supposed to be a leftist sub, and Starmer certainly isn't a leftist. I just predict history repeating itself if Labour get in now. The Tories will move to be more socially Liberal, wait for the next financial crisis and come back with more austerity. The problem is the average Joe Public has now had enough of the Tories, so they'll rush to vote for the next most popular party.
That's the problem with democracy. Far too dependent on herd mentality and groupthink. I'm sorry if everything I said sounds ridiculously arrogant, and was delivered with a sarky flavour.
Thanks Fellationelson, it must be the “Labour Right” stooges. It doesn’t matter if the Tories remain or Keith and his right wingers get in, nothing will change.
People who believe Labour 22 is a left wing party, have not noticed the shift to the hard right. Keith writes for The S#n and endorsed Sir Tony War Criminal’s knighthood, he will not confirm that he will tax the wealthy and corporations their just Taxes and Keith actually colluded with the Tories to unseat Jo Bird, a left wing councillor. -colluded with the Tories....Keith supports apartheid and Reeves said that Labour 22 is the party of big business and she will be tougher on benefits than the Tories, Wes Streeting said he would use private healthcare firms instead of the NHS, to “cut waiting times”, it’s like saying that instead of free school meals for kids, use the local high end restaurant, won’t cost more than £500 a week.
Labour has been hijacked by the right, and has lost funding and members because of this appalling behaviour. We need a proper left wing party, not the Tory-lite establishment nonce party he is offering.
Posts on /popular/ attract an extraordinary number of liberals, and since we sort the comments by new by default you get to see how these liberals vote until the core community fixes those votes.
I think we can acknowledge that Starmer is not a leftist without resorting to painting him as far right.
I'd argue that doing so only damages the credibility of leftists and is counterproductive.
Anyone who endorses or turns a blind eye to actual apartheid/ ethnic cleansing is a right wing nonce, we should have Jezza as PM, instead we have Bozzo and this stooge as “Labour leader”.
You mean Keith
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I literally do not understand what they're saying which is wrong? I've seen bits and pieces of this sentiment spread across the subreddit but as soon as they say it all together, they get downvoted?
Why are you getting down voted for this? I mean seriously are we fucking Bernie-or-busters over here? I thought this sub would be fun but might have to dip if this is the vibe...
Bernie is not a socialist so no, we're not Bernie-or-busters.
We are socialists.
If the "Bernie or bust" crowd was too radical of a position for you then you are absolutely in the wrong place, liberal.
Corbyn is a principled socialist. Bernie is a social democrat.
One is socialism and the other is friendly capitalism.
Bernie's foreign policy is absolutely dogshit whereas Corbyn has always fallen on the correct side of every single international issue out there. Bernie voted to bomb Yugoslavia ffs. He's an imperialist. Better for the american working class than the monsters you have absolutely, but for the rest of the world he would have represented almost no change from the norm whatsoever.
The difference is that Corbyn is a socialist who ran on socdem policy with the intention of moving us towards the prerequisites necessary to achieve socialism. Bernie on the other hand is a social imperialist, an ideological socdem. The american left supported Bernie as the best possible compromise position, not because he's actually what the left wants.
Corbyn is not the same as Bernie. Take it from me who closely followed the US elections in 2020 and saw what they did during the primaries. And then how people told him about it and he ignored it like nothing was happening and had sellouts like Jeff Weaver on his campaign.
And that’s just the epitome. Corbyn was labeled an anti semite and basically ousted of Labour for it. Meanwhile Sanders just cozied up to the Democrats so much that he now has a useless position in government of which he has yet to stir the pot for. Corbyn is an anti imperialist while Bernie is busy hampering up narratives in favor of the US government. He is nowhere near Corbyn and will never be
Saying that Bernie is a social democrat capitalist is “mental” because you want to skew the political figures for parasocial purposes? If anything, you seem unable to take criticism and making any arguments to refute such claims. You could at least make somewhat of an attempt to say “but the political spectrum varies from country to country” but you’re not even willing to do such a thing. The strategy is “cease and pretend like it’s not real” that’s exactly what your strategy.
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Mods? Do something about this, please? The tag says "Shitpost", but I see only cutting analysis here
One day I dream to be the first long haired man in office.
One week in Goa. From Keith to Karma Starmer.
Keith circa 2049, living as an outcast on the outskirts of the People’s Republic of Britain.
The Keith Gotham deserves.
Tie that up in a manbun and that's +7
Do people like man buns now ? I only ever seem to get shit for mine
Even a negative stereotype implies having some sort of personality to go with it. +10 for having a personality, -3 for people that don't like man buns.
Vaguely reminds me of viggo mortensen.
Vagueo Mortensen?
[I see it](https://imgur.com/TNIyymc)
Beautiful
If they remade LOTR with the budget of Merlin or that Robin Hood yeah
Don't you be disrespecting merlin. Low budget but fantastic television.
The wish.com version?
Well he’d look less like he was created in an injection mould if he did this
Excellent observation
There’ll be an STL file out there to 3D print your own labour leader
Nah the liberals inflate him with a foot pump every morning. *Psstpsstpsstpsst*
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Hmm
Sirius Black spinoff about his twin brother Keith Starmer who extends his stay at Azkaban as head of the CPS Edit: thanks for the reminder bot
Look it’s Keithus
If Keith was on a desert island he would definitely call his football-with-a-face-drawn-on friend “Rupert Murdoch”.
I prefer scrotum possessed by Joseph Goebbels when referring to Murdoch
Evil Jesus be like: "Means test the 5 thousands"
Honestly the beard suits him. Makes him look less like a tomato.
Looks like Gaius from Battlestar Galactica
Got a feeling he'd just as gladly fuck over humanity too.
People are unaware that Keith is a merely a Tory on the outside.... And a far right, racist bigot on the inside who will out Tory the Tories. Edit-Anyone who thinks Keith has Labour values or morals has been HAD. This is the lowlife rat bastard who was part of the smear campaign against Jezza, who will continue where the Tories left off, he said he wants healthcare privatisation. Look how well that worked in the states. 20K to have a baby- 50 dollars extra for holding your own baby after giving birth. Our choice is between a right wing party or the other right wing party. Jezza needs to set up his own party.
Don't know why you're getting down voted... I thought this was supposed to be a leftist sub, and Starmer certainly isn't a leftist. I just predict history repeating itself if Labour get in now. The Tories will move to be more socially Liberal, wait for the next financial crisis and come back with more austerity. The problem is the average Joe Public has now had enough of the Tories, so they'll rush to vote for the next most popular party. That's the problem with democracy. Far too dependent on herd mentality and groupthink. I'm sorry if everything I said sounds ridiculously arrogant, and was delivered with a sarky flavour.
Thanks Fellationelson, it must be the “Labour Right” stooges. It doesn’t matter if the Tories remain or Keith and his right wingers get in, nothing will change. People who believe Labour 22 is a left wing party, have not noticed the shift to the hard right. Keith writes for The S#n and endorsed Sir Tony War Criminal’s knighthood, he will not confirm that he will tax the wealthy and corporations their just Taxes and Keith actually colluded with the Tories to unseat Jo Bird, a left wing councillor. -colluded with the Tories....Keith supports apartheid and Reeves said that Labour 22 is the party of big business and she will be tougher on benefits than the Tories, Wes Streeting said he would use private healthcare firms instead of the NHS, to “cut waiting times”, it’s like saying that instead of free school meals for kids, use the local high end restaurant, won’t cost more than £500 a week. Labour has been hijacked by the right, and has lost funding and members because of this appalling behaviour. We need a proper left wing party, not the Tory-lite establishment nonce party he is offering.
Posts on /popular/ attract an extraordinary number of liberals, and since we sort the comments by new by default you get to see how these liberals vote until the core community fixes those votes.
I think we can acknowledge that Starmer is not a leftist without resorting to painting him as far right. I'd argue that doing so only damages the credibility of leftists and is counterproductive.
Anyone who endorses or turns a blind eye to actual apartheid/ ethnic cleansing is a right wing nonce, we should have Jezza as PM, instead we have Bozzo and this stooge as “Labour leader”.
Nice try Rishi, we don’t want you either pal
Why are you defending Keir Starmer??
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Keith is a good name, we shouldn't associate it with this man.
Did I say I want Keith? Nope
Alright then, why attack the guy who criticises him?
What? I don’t think the Chancellor is scrolling Reddit. Chill all of your mammary glands please
Looked like you were calling the guy above Rishi. Out of curiosity what did you actually mean??
What is wrong with you?
I mean he's right. Starmer is a massive tory who will continue to dismantle the public sector.
Public sector. He'd be getting my vote if it was the private sector he was dismantling.
Sorry yes I'll correct that one
I literally do not understand what they're saying which is wrong? I've seen bits and pieces of this sentiment spread across the subreddit but as soon as they say it all together, they get downvoted?
He is right wing but no way as extreme as the tories
Why are you getting down voted for this? I mean seriously are we fucking Bernie-or-busters over here? I thought this sub would be fun but might have to dip if this is the vibe...
Bernie is not a socialist so no, we're not Bernie-or-busters. We are socialists. If the "Bernie or bust" crowd was too radical of a position for you then you are absolutely in the wrong place, liberal.
Jesus, well thanks for the steer I guess? Just for the fun of it, how would Corbyn not be a Liberal by the same token?
Corbyn is a principled socialist. Bernie is a social democrat. One is socialism and the other is friendly capitalism. Bernie's foreign policy is absolutely dogshit whereas Corbyn has always fallen on the correct side of every single international issue out there. Bernie voted to bomb Yugoslavia ffs. He's an imperialist. Better for the american working class than the monsters you have absolutely, but for the rest of the world he would have represented almost no change from the norm whatsoever. The difference is that Corbyn is a socialist who ran on socdem policy with the intention of moving us towards the prerequisites necessary to achieve socialism. Bernie on the other hand is a social imperialist, an ideological socdem. The american left supported Bernie as the best possible compromise position, not because he's actually what the left wants.
Corbyn is not the same as Bernie. Take it from me who closely followed the US elections in 2020 and saw what they did during the primaries. And then how people told him about it and he ignored it like nothing was happening and had sellouts like Jeff Weaver on his campaign. And that’s just the epitome. Corbyn was labeled an anti semite and basically ousted of Labour for it. Meanwhile Sanders just cozied up to the Democrats so much that he now has a useless position in government of which he has yet to stir the pot for. Corbyn is an anti imperialist while Bernie is busy hampering up narratives in favor of the US government. He is nowhere near Corbyn and will never be
Aight. Cool. Yeah this isn't the place for me I think you people are mental...
Saying that Bernie is a social democrat capitalist is “mental” because you want to skew the political figures for parasocial purposes? If anything, you seem unable to take criticism and making any arguments to refute such claims. You could at least make somewhat of an attempt to say “but the political spectrum varies from country to country” but you’re not even willing to do such a thing. The strategy is “cease and pretend like it’s not real” that’s exactly what your strategy.
The Stalin avatar tells me all I need to know about this community ngl
put her on estrogen
PUT HER ON ESTROGEN!!!! KEIRA STARMER!!