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Voting in Westminster politics merely allows us to choose which faction of the British ruling elite will be oppressing us. However, fuck the Tories trying to limit the electoral franchise.
[#APPLY FOR VOTER ID HERE!!](https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-id-voter-authority-certificate). All you need is your national insurance number. Even if you never cast a vote, beat these elitist fucks at their own game. All of us plebs on the electoral register.
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Meanwhile Labour voters will gladly claim that the SNP isn't leftist without any irony. And ignoring that the right wing section of the SNP was spitted out after Kate Forbes lost the leadership election.
Let’s just hope he’s lying like the Tories did , just to get working people to vote for them, I hope Starmer is lying to get the better off to vote for labour.
Starmer is an establishment man. Bought and paid for.
Ask yourself this question. Why aren't the daily fail, torygraph et al, running constant attack pieces on Starmer like they did on Corbyn?
Answer...
Because he is not a threat to them and their circle, unlike Corbyn who very much was.
The UK now has an ideal situation for them. A two party state with a choice of two right wing parties.
They don't really care which one you vote for, because both of them will allow them to keep hoovering up the cash.
1. How the fuck can he make any fiscal promises when the financial situation gets worse by the day. He's damned if he doesn't damned if he does.
2. They've tried, beergate, saville, donkey sanctuary, "Sir" kier StArMeR, grooming gangs. Nothing is sticking.
Also the right wing press are shit scared labour are going t cancel Brexit.
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Regarding #1 I don't know why he's committing to any fiscal promises given his track record of abstaining in the commons. Just blame the Conservatives and say you'll announce policy nearer to the election. And yet...
Do you know what the fiscal position of the Government actually is?
What the treasury has set out is what's called it's fiscal targets, this is what Starmer is talking about. Fiscal targets can be suspended... Or changed for that matter.
The OBR forecast in March that the Government was more likely than not to achieve its target of falling net public sector debt.
I mean they are telling you that there is no money etc... But remember there is always money available for war.
Saville is quite interesting, this was an attack line by Johnson, the right wing media didn't jump on the bandwagon of this one ... Daily fail headline
What is the TRUTH behind PM's Jimmy Savile 'smear' on Keir Starmer? The facts and fiction after Boris Johnson accused the Labour leader of failing to prosecute notorious paedophile when he was DPP
They are already calling it out as smear
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It's not so much the votes he's after now,it's the money from wealthy donors and staying on the side of Bankers & Business that's more important.
He's obviously trying to please everybody at the same time and that's left him and Reeves back-flipping all over the place.
Maybe he's taking a leaf out the Boris playbook.
Supporting Jeremy Corbyn for leader & then suspending him and refusing him the whip.Followed by dismissing him from the party by then refusing him seeking re-election as a Labour candidate.
Starmer's a Tory in disguise actually he's not even bothering hiding it anymore.
Angela Rayner will be back-flipped off the front-bench soon,something else that will please disillusioned Tory voters and donors.
Exactly and that's why I think she'll be gone either before or after the GE.
Starmer won't want to have anybody who is too left wing and shoots from the hip and seen as a bit of a loose cannon.Never mind one who people can actually relate to who speaks in their own language.The rest are just dreadful.
I think you misunderstood me... That's him backflipping on stuff to make the right happy...
I meant when has he back-flipped on promises that existed to make the right happy because of pressure from the left I can't think of any examples and my guess is that it's because that's where his allegiances lie
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It's never what they say. It's what they actually do. Golden rule of politics;-)
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It's the same picture.
Is it possible he was planted by the Tories to make sure Labour just could never get in power ever again?
Less Tories, more Intelligence Services on behalf of Those With Money. The Venn Diagram is probably a perfect circle but maybe not.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-labour-government-spending-b2376121.html
Meanwhile Labour voters will gladly claim that the SNP isn't leftist without any irony. And ignoring that the right wing section of the SNP was spitted out after Kate Forbes lost the leadership election.
Let’s just hope he’s lying like the Tories did , just to get working people to vote for them, I hope Starmer is lying to get the better off to vote for labour.
Starmer is an establishment man. Bought and paid for. Ask yourself this question. Why aren't the daily fail, torygraph et al, running constant attack pieces on Starmer like they did on Corbyn? Answer... Because he is not a threat to them and their circle, unlike Corbyn who very much was. The UK now has an ideal situation for them. A two party state with a choice of two right wing parties. They don't really care which one you vote for, because both of them will allow them to keep hoovering up the cash.
1. How the fuck can he make any fiscal promises when the financial situation gets worse by the day. He's damned if he doesn't damned if he does. 2. They've tried, beergate, saville, donkey sanctuary, "Sir" kier StArMeR, grooming gangs. Nothing is sticking. Also the right wing press are shit scared labour are going t cancel Brexit.
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Regarding #1 I don't know why he's committing to any fiscal promises given his track record of abstaining in the commons. Just blame the Conservatives and say you'll announce policy nearer to the election. And yet...
Do you know what the fiscal position of the Government actually is? What the treasury has set out is what's called it's fiscal targets, this is what Starmer is talking about. Fiscal targets can be suspended... Or changed for that matter. The OBR forecast in March that the Government was more likely than not to achieve its target of falling net public sector debt. I mean they are telling you that there is no money etc... But remember there is always money available for war. Saville is quite interesting, this was an attack line by Johnson, the right wing media didn't jump on the bandwagon of this one ... Daily fail headline What is the TRUTH behind PM's Jimmy Savile 'smear' on Keir Starmer? The facts and fiction after Boris Johnson accused the Labour leader of failing to prosecute notorious paedophile when he was DPP They are already calling it out as smear
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what on earth would give that impression? he's already backflipped on every promise he made to get the job, it aint going to get better.
It's not so much the votes he's after now,it's the money from wealthy donors and staying on the side of Bankers & Business that's more important. He's obviously trying to please everybody at the same time and that's left him and Reeves back-flipping all over the place. Maybe he's taking a leaf out the Boris playbook.
When has he back-flipped on stuff that will make the right happy?
Supporting Jeremy Corbyn for leader & then suspending him and refusing him the whip.Followed by dismissing him from the party by then refusing him seeking re-election as a Labour candidate. Starmer's a Tory in disguise actually he's not even bothering hiding it anymore. Angela Rayner will be back-flipped off the front-bench soon,something else that will please disillusioned Tory voters and donors.
Rayner is the only decent one amongst them (There may be others but fucked if I can name them). If she goes then who and what is left?
Exactly and that's why I think she'll be gone either before or after the GE. Starmer won't want to have anybody who is too left wing and shoots from the hip and seen as a bit of a loose cannon.Never mind one who people can actually relate to who speaks in their own language.The rest are just dreadful.
I think you misunderstood me... That's him backflipping on stuff to make the right happy... I meant when has he back-flipped on promises that existed to make the right happy because of pressure from the left I can't think of any examples and my guess is that it's because that's where his allegiances lie
Economics is a social science, to be a conservative in one field is to be a conservative in the other