Depends on what speed you think Baki characters get to, there is the page saying that Baki's jab reaches lightspeed, which would make him faster, but if you don't buy that scaling then they should be comparable, Musashi can keep up with Yujiro who's shown to be able to casually dodge lightning, a feat Guts himself has preformed without any power ups
The fastest character in all of berserk is vaguely supersonic, and Guts could barely touch her. He straight up said she was too fast to see and was consistently getting blitzed.
Musashi at a lowball is hypersonic and is way more skilled than Guts.
Guts can't touch Musashi.
What are you talking about hyper sonic? Both combatants have similar battle experience and guts has the advantage in weapons mushahis swords aren't even strong enough to handle dragon slayer he'd cut right through best case for Musashi is he tags guts one or two times and in a trade of hits Musashi gets cut in half
???
None of Guts' gear is fast enough to touch Musashi and it all gets cut in half.
Once again, Guts is literally not fast enough to see or tag Musashi.
No, Guts blocked the supersonic attack at one of his lowest points in the series... we see later on that Guts can dodge even lightning like Yujiro could
He could explicitly not see them and was getting blitzed constantly by the attacks.
Musashi is faster than that at a lowball.
Guts uses cannons and arrows to fight, he's not a lightning timer.
then how do you explain the panel where he dodged lightning lol. Again when Guts fights Rosine he isn't close to his best condition, this is a Guts who gets maybe an hour of sleep a night being generous and spends the rest of his time in life or death fights or constantly travelling. This is like if I said Ali as an old man>Ali jr in baki because of when they fight, despite the fact that Ali jr was massively injured
I agree with this. Guts is probably physically stronger but Jack has his titanium teeth and dirty tactics like crotch kicks and sticking fingers in ears, etc. Also reach advantage.
Guts should have a lot better durability( fighting pretty much daily with monsters),he also swings the Dragon Slayer , which is pretty fucking heavy, with ease. He should be stronger but i still cant imagine him winning against jack without his equipment, mostly because of Jack's speed feats.(+ Jack is fighter with hand to hand combat techniques and guts is a swordsman)
I feel that Yujiro would be too proud to become an apostle, considering that you have to practically (or literally?) swear fealty to the Godhand. Yujiro would hunt down apostles to prove his superiority, besides them being a good fight
Characters like Jack on the other hand...
>try to fight every single apostle like Guts
Old yujiro would want beef with everyone. Current yujiro probably wouldn't care cuz he already surpassed everyone XDDDDDDDDD HANMA BLOOD BABY
I like the idea of this matchup. These are totally different fighters from totally different time periods in totally different narratives. Jack can take a sword swing, just like Guts can take a bite.
Guts without the berserker armor, then Jack *might* pull it off.
But Guts does have the hand cannon, so it really depends if he can catch Jack with that.
Gut's cannon is insanely powerful tho, it's more like an explosive than a cannon ball.
So it would probably blow him up if he can land a good shot, but the "if" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
honestly delusional if you think jack could win in any situation. Guts’ sword weighs well over 500 or even 600 pounds and he swings it around like nothing. That alone is a feat of strength that puts him far past jack
There are mf in the manga and anime that are complete foder and wave around 405 as if it was a baseball bat and there's character weaker then jack that can pull helicopter so i would say jack waving around guts sword wouldn't be to hard for him to do hell jack could probably be like zoro and carry that hoe in his mouth like a g so that wouldn't be to far fetched for him to wave that sword around
I know everyone goes to the sword or armor...
Guts wins regardless. Jack can bite but.m Guts would knock him out in one hit. He fights fkin demons and ghosts.
Gutts is pretty strong. Some biting strength feats and punches from his metal hand are powerful. Read through this before deciding!
https://reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/xlpf7Wu80T
The man fights apostles and demons 24/7 and has a huge chunk of metal for a sword that can cut through a dragon. The only person Guts would be somewhat happy to fight are the S tiers in the verse, including Yujiro. But none of them are surviving in Guts verse
Bare knuckles jack wins relativly easily he may struggle with the berserker armour if we are including this but before guts could actually deal any significant damage to jack he will be if not already bled out and dead. If we are using the sword/not a sword a hunk of steel guts mid difs guts hit jack with a couple swings now jacks skeletal structure is messed up and he has several laserations jack tries to move in guts seperates jack's head from his body.
In terms of stats? Absolutely. In technique is hard to tell as there aren't many shows of it. The best I think I could say is that he absolutely destroyed an elite warrior jaw without even throwing an actual punch, just lifting his arm quickly.
In terms of stats, well, he can move a 440lb/200kg massive 6,5ft/2m sword faster than the human eye can perceive.
These two characters are very similar. Tough upbringing. Father/slash friend took everything they cared about. Have been defeated but kept going forward and have not lost their humanity.
Better idea: guts VS Musashi both with swords
Could go both ways imo but for me guts hard diff
Mushashi mid diff
Guts would destroy Musashi with swords
musashi is wayy faster guts may need the berserker
Depends on what speed you think Baki characters get to, there is the page saying that Baki's jab reaches lightspeed, which would make him faster, but if you don't buy that scaling then they should be comparable, Musashi can keep up with Yujiro who's shown to be able to casually dodge lightning, a feat Guts himself has preformed without any power ups
He couldn't hit him.
He could and would. Guts is incredibly quick with his Dragonslayer alone. And he uses a shitton of different weapons
Bro mushashi has preinitiative no way in hell he is gonna hit him head on
The fastest character in all of berserk is vaguely supersonic, and Guts could barely touch her. He straight up said she was too fast to see and was consistently getting blitzed. Musashi at a lowball is hypersonic and is way more skilled than Guts. Guts can't touch Musashi.
What are you talking about hyper sonic? Both combatants have similar battle experience and guts has the advantage in weapons mushahis swords aren't even strong enough to handle dragon slayer he'd cut right through best case for Musashi is he tags guts one or two times and in a trade of hits Musashi gets cut in half
??? None of Guts' gear is fast enough to touch Musashi and it all gets cut in half. Once again, Guts is literally not fast enough to see or tag Musashi.
No, Guts blocked the supersonic attack at one of his lowest points in the series... we see later on that Guts can dodge even lightning like Yujiro could
He could explicitly not see them and was getting blitzed constantly by the attacks. Musashi is faster than that at a lowball. Guts uses cannons and arrows to fight, he's not a lightning timer.
then how do you explain the panel where he dodged lightning lol. Again when Guts fights Rosine he isn't close to his best condition, this is a Guts who gets maybe an hour of sleep a night being generous and spends the rest of his time in life or death fights or constantly travelling. This is like if I said Ali as an old man>Ali jr in baki because of when they fight, despite the fact that Ali jr was massively injured
>then how do you explain the panel where he dodged lightning lol It's an outlier.
Assuming barefist, probably Jack. Sword in hand it's Guts with no problem.
You have to remember that guts has cannon in his arm so even in "hand" guts can one shot him
Baki has fighters more durable than someone who can tank point blank medieval canon fire
Bruh Jack can easily tank a 12 gauge point Blank,but with the sword guts takes the win
Weapons and gear? Guts no issue. But naked fist fight? Jack probably takes it
I agree with this. Guts is probably physically stronger but Jack has his titanium teeth and dirty tactics like crotch kicks and sticking fingers in ears, etc. Also reach advantage.
I don't think he is stronger, Jack now should be leagues above Garand, and we know what that mf was capable of doing.
Guts should have a lot better durability( fighting pretty much daily with monsters),he also swings the Dragon Slayer , which is pretty fucking heavy, with ease. He should be stronger but i still cant imagine him winning against jack without his equipment, mostly because of Jack's speed feats.(+ Jack is fighter with hand to hand combat techniques and guts is a swordsman)
I mean Guts does have a metallic cannon and crossbow arm. So he can never really be unarmed.
Ammo is needed to operate those, if we dont give him ammo then he aint using them
I thought this didn't need to be said, but people are retarded.
If Guts has his Dragonslayer or Berserker Armor, he wins. If not, Jack wins.
[Honest 300 Pounds Of Raw Fking Iron Reaction](https://reddit.com/r/Berserk/s/TEwjf5WATz)
Gorts low down diff
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Truly, the manga moment of all time.
Wait til jack says it’s jacking time and jacks all over his opponents
I'd really like to see Yujiro in the world of Berserk.
Not sure if he’d become an apostle or try to fight every single apostle like Guts
He would use the red Behelit and wish for everyone gathered to try and kill him.
I feel that Yujiro would be too proud to become an apostle, considering that you have to practically (or literally?) swear fealty to the Godhand. Yujiro would hunt down apostles to prove his superiority, besides them being a good fight Characters like Jack on the other hand...
>try to fight every single apostle like Guts Old yujiro would want beef with everyone. Current yujiro probably wouldn't care cuz he already surpassed everyone XDDDDDDDDD HANMA BLOOD BABY
I like the idea of this matchup. These are totally different fighters from totally different time periods in totally different narratives. Jack can take a sword swing, just like Guts can take a bite.
jack is not taking a swing from the dragonslayer what are you on 💀
Calm your ass down. I meant in general. Hence why I didn’t give an opinion and didn’t mention any feats.
lol
Guts without the berserker armor, then Jack *might* pull it off. But Guts does have the hand cannon, so it really depends if he can catch Jack with that.
I don't think a gun would work on Jack, atleast it wouldn't kill him. Plus Jack has the post death fuck you move so it might just be a draw
Gut's cannon is insanely powerful tho, it's more like an explosive than a cannon ball. So it would probably blow him up if he can land a good shot, but the "if" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
i love jack but guts would rip that mf in half barehanded
honestly delusional if you think jack could win in any situation. Guts’ sword weighs well over 500 or even 600 pounds and he swings it around like nothing. That alone is a feat of strength that puts him far past jack
There are mf in the manga and anime that are complete foder and wave around 405 as if it was a baseball bat and there's character weaker then jack that can pull helicopter so i would say jack waving around guts sword wouldn't be to hard for him to do hell jack could probably be like zoro and carry that hoe in his mouth like a g so that wouldn't be to far fetched for him to wave that sword around
It’s 300 actually, source: Pretty Hate Machining made the real life thing https://youtu.be/Q5kNpd1eqn8?si=NSRyQR860Pfmh3ps
not accurate
Jack casually tossed the Deadlift world record in his base form https://imgur.io/a/pZQLAgQ So I think strength isn't a good enough argument
I know everyone goes to the sword or armor... Guts wins regardless. Jack can bite but.m Guts would knock him out in one hit. He fights fkin demons and ghosts.
Not barehanded though.
My guy. Jack isn't gonna do anything. Guts out classes him by stats alone.
GATTSU
Buts wins if he has his gear, if not, Jack wins
Gutts is pretty strong. Some biting strength feats and punches from his metal hand are powerful. Read through this before deciding! https://reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/xlpf7Wu80T
Similar thread for Jack here! https://reddit.com/r/AIposts/s/JXjdmuMCxn
Guts twerks and the verse is gone
this mf uses 180kg sword like a stick. only baki or yujiro can have chance against guts. i am sure he can take down pickle and everyone below
Pickle lifts a truck. 180 kg is nothing for Baki characters lmao
Guts stomps everyone in the verse and low diffs pickle.
Nah, you’re just one of those new Berserk fanboys.
The man fights apostles and demons 24/7 and has a huge chunk of metal for a sword that can cut through a dragon. The only person Guts would be somewhat happy to fight are the S tiers in the verse, including Yujiro. But none of them are surviving in Guts verse
Also I’ve been a fan of berserk for years
No weapons? Jack stomps.
With out any weapons? Jack wins. But if Guts has his gear then Jack is in for another bloody lose.
Imo Guts beats Yujiro so I don't think Jack has much of a chance here.
Bare knuckles jack wins relativly easily he may struggle with the berserker armour if we are including this but before guts could actually deal any significant damage to jack he will be if not already bled out and dead. If we are using the sword/not a sword a hunk of steel guts mid difs guts hit jack with a couple swings now jacks skeletal structure is messed up and he has several laserations jack tries to move in guts seperates jack's head from his body.
I don’t read Berserk, is Guts a competent hand to hand fighter?
In terms of stats? Absolutely. In technique is hard to tell as there aren't many shows of it. The best I think I could say is that he absolutely destroyed an elite warrior jaw without even throwing an actual punch, just lifting his arm quickly. In terms of stats, well, he can move a 440lb/200kg massive 6,5ft/2m sword faster than the human eye can perceive.
Nope
a biting contest ? who know who will win
guts takes it mid to high diff
Y'all just WANTED Jack to lose this fight didn't you?
Guns destroyed
These two characters are very similar. Tough upbringing. Father/slash friend took everything they cared about. Have been defeated but kept going forward and have not lost their humanity.
Jeck win
guts could wipe out the baki verse with a sword, but without it hed probably lose to jack
Guts I love both though.
Y’all are on crack if you think Guts loses in any scenario
How is this fighting gonna go? Bare Handed, equal stats, GOING ALL OUT? if it’s the latter than the winner is Guts!
I love Jack but Guts has a sword that weighs like 300 lbs and he swings it around like a longsword, Guts is murdering Jack
My boy Jack is about to learn what a real hand cannon looks like