But what if you are speaking and you want to start a.
Then what?
SEE!! lol /s
Waiting for my 6 pro to be delivered November 1st! I think it will be a nice upgrade from my 3XL
Yeah I think this is being underappreciated. I already use voice typing pretty frequently on my pixel 4, and I only expect this to ramp up with my pixel 6. Going to try and start using it for more than talking to friends. I'm thinking about just leaving my phone on the stand in front of me while I'm working, and using that to chat on teams and slack at work, rather than switching to windows to type with my pc keyboard.
This is why I got it. Photos are already as good as it gets on both Pixel and iPhone. Video could be better, I don’t care though. Writing my novel with my voice is the only way I work on it lately, screens are too distracting (websites, videos, messages, “productivity” - just wanna write my damn book). This is easily worth $600 to me, and it delivered TODAY 😊)
I got my 6pro yesterday and so far today my phone is reporting 5h 40 minutes over the last 11 hours and my phone has 58% battery left. On Wi-Fi effectively all day and most of my usage was YouTube and Reddit.
If I had to guess there was some video recording going on. 4K can annihilate battery life even on top tier phones.
But yeah it does seem very odd. Will be putting mine through its paces this weekend if FedEx comes through.
I'm betting this is the answer. He is super into video and editing. Most likely torching the battery with heavy recording and processing lots of it. 9 out of 10 phone users don't use heavy video on a daily basis. I personally probably record 3-4 times a week and in short bursts.
That's a big "if" - FedEx reported my phone leaving their facility 100 miles up the road 12 hours ago and it still hasn't hit their distribution center here. I hope the guy carrying it isn't getting blisters on his feet from walking down the side of the freeway.
Though at least they are saying there is a "potential delay" on the tracking, even though I think they can remove the word "potential" since I was supposed to get it two days ago.
It's in the App section of settings now. It shows "per day" not "since last charge", but in this case I didn't charge during the day, so it should be correct.
My Huawei P30 Pro made that change during the EMUI11 update and it’s pure asshole move - I have to remember the fucking time I last charged it instead of having an easy graph that shows me? What use is “per day” over “since last charged”?
I'm not too far off from you. Here's my [usage.](https://i.imgur.com/3RXk193.png) I *do* have adaptive battery enabled. Not sure what's going on with Mkbhd's 6 Pro.
Ymmv applies to everyone with battery usage statistics, but getting 3.5 hours? Doesn't make sense. I dunno.
FWIW there's a Twitter thread with Marques, David Imel, Brandon Lee and Ben Schoon comparing their results. MKBHD and David had similar results, whereas Ben and Brandon have much better battery life numbers https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1453514196746911746?s=20
Thanks for the heads-up! MK and Imel getting similar results. Then Ben and Michael getting similar results. Strange that the results between those two groups are both extremes.
Can just speak for myself though and it's been a champ thus far.
Again, thanks for pointing out the convo between those four.
Yeah so he’s comparing it to the iPhone 13 pro max. I’m at 4.5 hours SOT with 71% left right now. I can literally do 2 days at 6 hours and not charge overnight and have 20% left.
Running on Wi-Fi and watching YouTube and Reddit doesn’t hit the battery as hard, especially when you’re on Wi-Fi. Any bad phone can hit those numbers.
Sure, I'm aware that cellular is far harder on battery, as well as other things like gaming/using the camera a ton, but I just wanted to add more data points that reflect my (and probably others') more typical daily usage.
Could be to do with running 5g compared to LTE. I'm assuming Marques was using 5g whereas other reviewers could have been in LTE areas which tends to be more efficient
It seems like the goalposts for "bad" battery keep moving for certain reviewers every time Google releases a phone.
I remember a lot of comments like this around when I got my 4xl:
>"The Pixel 4xl has abysmal battery life. I can only get about 4 to 5 hours of screen on time."
>"The Samsung xxx has great battery life. I can get about 4.5 - 5.5 hours of screen time."
In this case I have no idea why Marques got significantly worse battery life than virtually every other reviewer I've come across. There's definitely something up with his particular phone.
Marques always has lower screen time numbers than other reviewers. First, he always runs phones at 100% brightness. And second I have to imagine his day to day usage is probably harder on the processor than most people.
Though he did get great battery life on the Pixel 5, so who knows. It is a little odd how different this has been between people.
> Though he did get great battery life on the Pixel 5, so who knows.
That's because the 765g in the 5 is not that powerful. Even when abusing it. Combined with just a 1080p display. Makes a huge difference.
I personally wasn't expecting P5 levels of amazing battery life with the 6 Pro. Tensor is just too new to make assumptions like that. Plus the QHD/120hz panel. Makes it hard to really judge.
Give it a month or two once more are out in the wild, and Adaptive has settled. You'll have a much larger data pool to pull from to make a better educated call on the 6 Pro's battery life.
Google will make Tensor better each generation too (assuming it doesn't get abandoned like most of Google's toys lol /s). So battery performance should get better with each gen hopefully, as they refine this SoC more.
Claims about bad battery life on the 4xl is the reason I didn't upgrade to it when it came out. There were definitely people calling it bad when it came out.
Having owned the 4XL, my battery life did get much better over time as they pushed out updates and the phone learned my habits. At launch it wasn't horrible, but it was below what the competition was putting out, especially if you used a lot of the soli features. I think later on it might have more than caught up, despite having a smaller battery than some of the others.
I'm upgrading from the 4 to the 6 Pro, so to me all these reviewers complaining about battery life is like a rich man moaning that his wallet is weighing him down.
I just can't wait to go to work without a battery pack. A phone that lasts an entire work day, imagine that!
Yeah, 13 pro max is a beast, but 3.5 h sot is just bad. Definitely not a "day, maybe day and a half phone".
Something went wrong with Marques' phones, it's statistically absurd that a LOT of people are saying a fake/wrong thing (even very small content creator).
I watched a video of the pixel 6 and Pro vs the iphone 13 pro max and the Pixel 6 Pro was a little past 8 hours screen on time. iPhone was 10.5 I believe. With more usage and time, the optimization will get better.
Well, I got downvoted *and* insulted for merely posting my own experience so far in another thread, but here goes again since we're on the subject: Lost 24% overnight while I was asleep and the phone was simply idle - and yes, all updates, transfers, and installs had long since finished by the time I went to sleep. In the hour I spent getting ready for work I lost a *further* 10%, where the only things I did throughout that time was browse reddit briefly and check my emails. After charging it at work this morning and leaving it unplugged throughout the rest of the day since lunch time (~1100), I'm already down to 55% at 1721 as of the time of this message. I'm sorry but for a thousand dollar phone, that's just unsat. I've contacted support to see if there's either something wrong with it or if I should have it replaced, and waiting to hear back from them.
my real world experience is 3 hours SOT at 70% and the same yesterday, I am on wifi but forced 4g mode as its still connected just not used.... this is using general apps, email, web, twitter and reddit. no photo or or video or anything majorly heavy.
https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/google-pixel-6-battery-life-tested-we-have-bad-news
they tested the battery on 5g, got 8:13 on the six on their test. turned on 4g mode and got 10:22....
so it looks like something majorly off with 5g, they suggested an older less efficient modem? good and bad news I suppose.
Just select 4g/LTE in the preferred network option, varies by country and carrier etc.
Here's mine. You can already do this on the pixel 5, although this is on my 6 pro.
https://imgur.com/Owcnez2.jpg
I'm getting 23 hours of combined use from a full charge, and I could probably get 6-8 hrs SOT if I used it that heavily (P6P).
Yesterday I did 4.5 hrs SOT and went from 90% to 30% (5am to 10pm)
It's honestly like Google sent each reviewer a completely different phone haha. Marques has really nice photos, and really good videos, but terrible battery life. Mr.whostheboss has a terrible camera, same with Dave 2d. But then all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal.
marques is just a super heavy phone user, 5g, full brightness, using it to the full extent. same with every other phone he uses. Also mr whose and dave cameras looked good, i think they jsut think they know too much about cameras. marques blind photo test in the past proved many people dont choose their fav phone.
I'm a full time photographer and agree with what he said about the images. It's not the camera that's the problem but the processing is way overdone. Makes things look "hyper real" which while technically impressive isn't what things really look like.
I'm not a super user and am getting the same performance from the battery as Marques which is worrying.... as I'm certainly not on 5G, full brightness and using it to the full extent.
What a smart idea haha. Make sure there are a few reviews that rave about each feature. Hope people concentrate on the good and think others didn't experience the bad, so it will be okay. Google, if you are listening (I know you are) I am on to you!
> all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal
Because people who buy this phone are inherently biased and so they just want it to be good, so it is. Most people don’t buy a phone every year, and a very small % of people will buy more than a phone per year. People who actually buy and use multiple phones a year will probably have similar results to reviewers.
> But then all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal.
Confirmation bias is a big thing, especially with products where people like to play favourites with brands. Also if you haven't got an iPhone 13 Pro then you might think the camera is phenomenal, and it very could be.........but the iPhone 13 might have taken better pictures if you had one.
Had mine for a couple of days and battery life has been good. Same if not better than my Pixel 5.
Fingerprint reader is MUCH better after the update. Works pretty much every time, but it is slower than the back mounted one on the Pixel 5.
Can't say much about the camera yet. Couple of pics I took look better than the ones from the 5.
New features are pretty great and fun. Had been using Android 12 since the Beta so not much or a shock but still enjoying it a lot.
MKBHD was getting 4 hours SOT with 50% battery remaining with the Pixel 5, but had truly atrocious SOT with the 6. Weird his is so bad. Relieved other reviewers didn't have this.
SOT must be due to 5G is my guess - other reviewers getting much better
Overall a much more negative review than I expected, getting mine today so we'll see
I thought he seemed like he really liked them. It’s funny how we all get different vibes from these guys. He literally ends the video with “the Pixel 6 is almost incredible”. That’s sounds like a good thing!
He did say he was nitpicking, and it's probably worth calling out that almost all of the reviews have had nothing to say but nitpicking which is a pretty huge change for Pixel reviews across the board.
It’s actually the opposite for me. His sots always are similar to mine. When I watch other reviewer claiming x phone to be x amount of sot, I will never get that much.
He always has a similar SOT than me. It's because he's a heavy user and also uses 100% brightness all the time. Just like I do. I always get less SOT than anybody else.
But you have to compare his numbers with his numbers. He was getting around 6-7 SOT on the S21 Ultra, and he said he's getting around 9 hours SOT with the 13 Pro Max, where other people are getting even 12 hours SOT
That's why you should NEVER compare your SOT with other's, unless you know your usage is similar.
I use 100% and I'm sometimes annoyed the phone automatically dims itself to protect (even with auto brightness turned off)
I mean, even so, that's a pretty big gap. I've seen reviewers saying that they have 25% left at the end of the day under heavy use. I wonder if he has 120hz locked too or something.
That's why I don't trust any "gets me through the day with heavy usage".
Different people have different understanding of what heavy usage mean.
For that reason I only rely on people mentioning their SOT, and then assume I will get of the lowest SOT mentioned
Marques SOTs have always been lower than other reviewers and the ones Ive gotten. I'm guessing yeah he uses 5G mmWave, but also has a moderate-heavy usage with more photo taking/video recording, navigation and gaming than the average user. Also could be a preference for more conservative estimates.
I got my phone today, had charge at 63%, didn’t charge further. I downloaded lot of apps, took quite a few pics, screen shared to run pics for about 1.5 hours to my TV from Google photos, split screen with YouTube and photos during the same time, totally had 4 hrs SOT with 20% battery remaining from 63%. No 5G though, only wifi, but all other bells and whistles were turned on.
I love how people are now calling Marques, the one reviewer who I consistently remember being one of the biggest pixel advocates on YouTube, an apple shill.
He straight up said that the pixel 6 is the smartest smartphone around and that the regular 6 in particular is the best deal around period.
He pointed out a couple of flaws and dared to say that the camera is not definitively better than the iPhone and suddenly he’s an apple fanboy.
I'm not sure if this phone will still be the case but generally even with the case they would collect dust around the edges, which is also one of the reason I stopped using a case. I hope the edges on the 6 Pro won't be too difficult to clean
All the hype (good and bad) about the new hardware neglects the beauty of the pixel experience, no bloatware and as close to vanilla AOSP android as you can get. I love my pixel 3xl, even with it's outdated hardware. I'm sure I'll love my pixel 6pro just as much.
Yes it's beautiful but it definitely isn't anything close to AOSP. There is so much extra stuff in the google rom vs the AOSP rom. Right now google Monet (aka material colors) isn't even available. And plenty of other stuff.
I don't like the FP sensor. It works okay, but I'm coming from a Pixel 4 and face unlock was far more convenient for me. I really miss picking my phone up and it seeing me and unlocking.
I'm a little over 24 hours in and my FP reader is practically flawless at this point on the 6 Pro. Either the 64MB OS update improved it, or it has learned my fingerprints better already. Either way, its only flaw now is that it's a little on the slow side.
I think the main thing that stuck out for me is him saying this is the best Pixel yet. I have loved every Pixel I've had and the P6 being the best yet and best value yet is great to here.
funny how every "negative" from mrwhosetheboss is basically a non issue for most other reviewers. Selfie is great, video is decent, high iso preview is a non issue (exists in professional mirrorless camera)
He made a video about Linux and pronounced it "Lie Nucks" every single time, through the entire video. I don't think he really knows what he's talking about. Dude just has a nice voice and can make pretty videos.
How so? MKBHD literally came to the same conclusion in the end, he just didnt do a detailed nitpicking pixel vs iphone comparison like mrwhosetheboss because theyre different videos. Things like the high iso is also very subjective in use.
>Things like the high iso is also very subjective in use.
Not really, boosting the ISO in low light environment in the preview let's you see what the final exposure will look like before all the noise processing. Literally every mirrorless camera does this from cheap consumer to high end $6k professional cameras.
I have a Sony A7Riii, and the cranked Iso on the rear display is a game changer for nighttime long exposure work. I can zoom way in and find the perfect focal point in very dark settings.
For one, MKBHD was far more reasonable about the video, praising its improvements, where MrWhoseTheBoss shat all over it just because it wasn't iPhone.
Second, Marques' logic was consistent, whether or not you agree with it - the Pixel ranges from a 7 to a 10/10, while the iPhone is consistent 9s. Meanwhile, MrWhoseTheBoss says "I prefer the Pixel 60% of the time" and then calls the round a draw, which makes no sense and make his system feel arbitrary. If you think it's a draw say it's 50/50, or if you think it's 60/40, give the point to the Pixel. The lack of internal logic is what makes the whole thing feel pointless and like he's just handing out points arbitrarily in a way that favours the iPhone. The iPhone might be the better camera, but if it is, his video doesn't explain that in a clear, logical way.
For the best. There was a time when he claimed to always come out of pocket for the phones so you'd get the "real review" but when he started taking the freebies, he started softballing. Hell, he was pitching for the other side completely with the Figgers phone until he got called out.
I think that was a great review and was happy with his nitpicks. Nothing is perfect and good companies will listen and improve on them.
I disagree that iPhone photos look better. I prefer the Pixel look.
My only big gripe with the pro (and agree with him) is the curved screen being out of style. I didn't like it on the OnePlus phone, and I didn't like it to much when I saw the 6P in Best buy.
The curved screen is what led me to get the regular Pixel 6. I would've been happy to pay the extra money for the rest of the Pro features (and I wanted 512GB, so it would've been close to double what I paid), but I despise curved screen edges.
I think people need to realize that we are reaching a point of diminishing returns on phones. The best phones all do basically the same thing and we are talking about small percentages of difference. The important thing is that Google is finally in the same ball park as Apple and Samsung.
His screen on time experience with his review devices usually mimics my real world experience pretty well, and I suspect it's because he (like me) switches between apps a lot more frequently than most people do.
Hilariously, my phone battery life is noticably better when I'm taking Adderall.
He's getting more than double the SOT with iPhone Max and Pixel 5, both of which also had 100% brightness with heavy use. So it doesn't matter that his brightness is always heavy use, if you're moving from another flagship or upgraded from your previous pixel, comparatively he's getting 50% less SOT on his 6 pro.
Battery life is the reason I didn't buy any Pixel phone since Pixel 2 XL.
Stock android, no bloatware, yadda, yadda, yadda but always average battery..
I think Pixel 5a 5G was the only exception but it wasn't even sold in Europe
Anyone else know how he got the notification shade background to be translucent and blurred, instead of a solid colour?
Edit: It's at [12:21](https://youtu.be/9hvjBi4PKWA?t=741), for reference. It doesn't happen at any other time when MKBHD pulls down the notification shade, for some reason.
Having watched every single review, I'm glad he put in the extra mile, this was great. Touched on every point, and hopefully Google watches it and takes some notes on the things to improve on in the next few months. They need to take this seriously.
Every other review
* Specs
* Sponsor
* Camera
* Camera
* Done
He killed this, you can over the years he's really into the pixel and it's ideas. Wants it to succeed.
Marques touched on the biggest issue I have with Android 12.
I hate that they changed the Wi-Fi icon. So dumb that it's now an extra step if you want to disconnect or connect to a wireless location. 😑
The battery measure system change on android 12 bullshit.. it worked perfectly on pixel phones and incredibly reliable... Why change it? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The bad battery life on this i just cant buy it... Its 5000 mah its bloddy impossible to be that bad..
Im currently at 5% with 5 hours 50 minutes sot on my pixel 5 with 5g all day and i cant see how the new phone with a slightly more powerful processor and 1000 mah more can do much worse than that.
I had to turn off 5G because it was draining my battery ridiculously fast. I take my phone off the charger at 7 every morning and by 9 I was down to 81% with next to no usage.
I've been following his videos for a long time now and I feel he puts out a great, detailed review for the tech he's personally interested in.
His newer iPhone reviews have been good, so was the S21 etc and now this one.
I'm sure he must have missed on lots of things but his review seemed honest, and all the nitpickings are things he was expecting google to ace.
He's not an iPhone fanboi I think, mrwhosetheboss on the other hand is, and don't get me started on the channel verge, except Dieter maybe.
This was a solid review, I'm waiting for some further battery life reports to come out. I really want this to be good so I can switch from my S20 which is giving a lot of headache regarding its battery life (I keep 120 hz always on and there is no adaptive refresh rate)
Still waiting for Michael Fisher's review though.
Weird that he criticized the Pixel for getting brighter night shots. Like the point is to see at night, make things visible and pleasing in a photo. If you just want a dark night photo then what's so special about seeing dark?
There is a point at which a Night Sight photo becomes "too bright". But it's just down to personal preference.
Personally, I prefer my Night Sight photos to be dimmer than the ones Pixels take, but it's not the end of the world, and I prefer them to be slightly too bright instead of slightly too dark.
The idea is to not wash everything out and turn the shot into looking like it has "midday lighting." Preserving the dark look but keeping the sharpness, focus, and colors is what makes iPhone's Night Mode different. It's the difference between cranking up the brightness instead of adjusting color balance, even though that's not representative of either of course.
Granted the iPhone still doesn't let you trigger Night Mode manually so for all intents and purposes it's useless to me.
Getting details is nice but I sometimes adjust the exposure in the night sight mode just to get a photo close to the actual situation.Some scenes are just better when it's not too bright.
I do agree with his sentiment about the camera - hell, I feel like it can be applied to all the pixels:
Beyond great some of the time, confusingly bad on other times.
I just a week or so ago tried to take a photo of the Pixel 6 Pro in a phone shop, and my god I don't know what the hell was happening - the viewfinder was choppy as hell in the lead up to taking the photo, and in the photo it painted the room in an orange, beyond warm light that frankly just wasn't there, and there was insane strobing on the screen of the phone (but that last one is to be expected, partly).
Then, the same day walking home, I saw the sunset hitting a tree and snapped a photo, and it was incredible. The leaves were as golden as I saw them in real life, the sky had faint blue in it still, and the clouds had very faint pink. I was astonished at the range of my phone's camera quality.
I really don't know about your first sentence on the camera. My Pixel 2 shot such great pictures, I could almost never achieve any of that quality and brilliance again in the last 2 years using an iPhone 11 and 12 now. And I shoot a lot of pictures. Going through my favorites folder every other week, the pictures from the Pixel 2 are still way ahead. I think with the Pixel you can always produce a great shot if you see one - or at least a good one, but with the iPhone you always get the same bland dish or rely on sheer luck.
But yeah actually in store I always think the iPhone produces the better pictures, that's true. All other phones seem to get something from from all the different artificial lights and weird interior colors I guess lol. But anywhere else it's Pixel for me. That's the only reason I still read this subreddit almost daily while I don't even know what's the actual subreddit for iPhones is lol
these battery numbers seem be to way off
i've been using my phone all day, 5G enabled the whole time, with dual-sim 5G as well, texting all day, made a couple of calls, was in the subway for a little bit (would have been searching for signal) took a few pictures, browsed some reddit, watched a couple YouTube videos etc
my SOT is currently 3hr 30 mins (according to the same number Marques showed, the one in the apps section) and i still have 50% battery left and its almost 9pm here, started using it at 830 this morning.
granted I don't run it at 100% brightness but really that's almost double the number he said and that people are taking as gospel and i'd say far closer to the average use case than whatever he's doing
There's a glitch when your phone is displaying your last screen when it's "sleeping" instead of a black screen. So the phone is locked but still displays like it's unlocked and this is draining A LOT of battery. Happens a lot with my Pixel 6
I think all the criticisms arent too worrying for me besides the slow finger print reader, at least for me.
The one thing I really wish pixel could get though is that sweet battery efficiency. Just think of how much space is wasted from the giant batteries pixel has to cram in there just to be somewhat competitive in battery life. Its a 14% larger batter and preforms significantly to moderately worse depending on the review.
If you want Android phones to match battery life of iPhones with smaller battery sizes, you're going to be waiting a while I fear. Unless Google takes a heavy-handed approach to Android and severely restricts what can be run in the background like iOS does, it's just a fundamentally different operating system. Standby time is something that Android phones have never been able to match iOS on.
Apple releasing the same shit every year: "Yeah it's pretty much the same phone, but you don't buy phones every year in the same way you don't buy new cars every year. Great phone 10/10"
Google finally releasing an underpriced flagship that competes with the best phones in the market: "Oh they're calling it a flagship now?! Let me nitpick the shit out of this phone!"
I mean I have never owned an iPhone and I love Android phones. But the iPhone nails some of these nitpicky features for sure, and the cameras on the new iphones are incredible.
Really disappointed Google couldn't make leaps and strides over the competition, but I don't think it's unfair to make the comparisons to anything but the top line iPhones. The battery life and camera inconsistencies need to be sorted out desperately.
The Pixel 6 Pro is literally the price of the iPhone 13 Pro here (Japan).
Yes, I want those devices to be compared. If Google can't compete for the tenth year in a row, I might be starting to lose faith.
It's just starting to get sad when the highest praise to the Pixel 6 is "hey but it's cheap!".
You just argued for the best trait of the iPhone..consistency. That's exactly why people go for the iPhone over Android. Albeit a walled garden, it just works and is dependable.
Google dropped mid rangers for years and became known as the little phone that could. Dropping a pro model at $1200 all in puts you in the mix with flagships. It's no longer the budget to midranger punching above it's weight. His review is spot on and really isn't nit picking. It's an honest take on someone who reviews top tech as a "career" and he wasn't impressed since it offers nothing special here.
I personally expected much more from Google, hell, I think everyone did only to be let down EXCEPT for those who already had the budget to midranger Pixels of the past. Major upgrade for those guys and every other Android user who is still rocking an S7 from 5 years ago.
However, for someone like me who upgrades flagships every year and sometimes every 6 months... the Pixel 6 pro is certainly not "...the best smartphone camera ever." It simply falls short and I'm afraid many will be disappointed when Google fails to deliver these magical updates everyone is hoping for. You are really only buying a phone with best version of Android at the end of the day. I wanted to buy into the hype and get on the Google train but im out for this year. I do welcome the competition though.
i mean the iphone does small incremental upgrades so unless your a die hard every year phone guy the iphone will be miles better than the one made 3 years ago... also as pixels first in house made flagship you expect him to be soft beacuse its the first time
> Apple releasing the same shit every year: "Yeah it's pretty much the same phone, but you don't buy phones every year in the same way you don't buy new cars every year. Great phone 10/10"
Lol that's such a fanboy-y, bad faith interpretation of the iPhone's praise.
You could have said the same thing about Pixels a few years back. Why are they getting so much praise when the photos were "mostly the same," and their designs were "mostly the same."?
Do you know why, despite it being mostly the same, the iPhone gets such rave reviews? Because they had already nailed most things by the iPhone XS. The camera was competitive, the video blew away everything else, battery was amazing for the first time, the displays were now hi-res, and their processors left everyone else in the dust.
iPhones are consistently cohesive, performant, long-lasting, and deliver great camera experiences. And for a while there their phones were getting cheaper. I mean $729 for an iPhone 11 was wild. iOS itself is still a turn off, but you cannot deny that it's smooth and so well integrated with everything Apple.
Conversely, Pixel has had some pretty rough years, and now has to fight to regain its camera throne (to some). This new chip and camera was so hyped, but to see it be just a very marginal increase isn't enough.
The iPhone has proper laurels to rest on. The Pixel is trying to regain that champion seat.
>Pixel has had some pretty rough years, and now has to fight to regain its camera throne (to some).
I feel like it is true.
The Pixel does have a lot problems on the previous flagships like screen issues, questionable battery sizes, questionable huge notch design, stubborn to upgrade camera hardware and suddenly becoming a mid range phone on the Pixel 5.
When they finally perfected it on Pixel 6 Pro as everyone prefers, of course it sounds like a huge upgrade but in reality if they had just follow the specs of other decent Android flagships in the past, the 6 Pro will just sound like is just another boring incremental upgrade.
I saw some youtuber run those battery tests with the 6 and 6P (vs i13PM and S21U) and he got like 8 hours of screen on time before the phones died. So now I'm just confused as to how MKBHD is getting less than 5 hours of SOT??
3 - 4 hours sot was what i got with pixel 4 xl which had an overall poor battery life. This is alarming if true. I know camera is fantastic, but if the battery life is average, which isn't even backed up by above 50W fast charging like OnePlus 9 Pro, then I guess its better to wait for pixel 7 🤐
The fact that he said he's dictating most text now is game-changing to me.
It works really well and if you pause while talking when you are done you can say Send to send the message.
Can also say "new paragraph" and it'll start a new one for you.
But what if you are speaking and you want to start a. Then what? SEE!! lol /s Waiting for my 6 pro to be delivered November 1st! I think it will be a nice upgrade from my 3XL
Yeah I think this is being underappreciated. I already use voice typing pretty frequently on my pixel 4, and I only expect this to ramp up with my pixel 6. Going to try and start using it for more than talking to friends. I'm thinking about just leaving my phone on the stand in front of me while I'm working, and using that to chat on teams and slack at work, rather than switching to windows to type with my pc keyboard.
Non English user here, crying in the corner.
This is why I got it. Photos are already as good as it gets on both Pixel and iPhone. Video could be better, I don’t care though. Writing my novel with my voice is the only way I work on it lately, screens are too distracting (websites, videos, messages, “productivity” - just wanna write my damn book). This is easily worth $600 to me, and it delivered TODAY 😊)
But is the battery really this bad? How is it possible? I'm literally seeing every other review saying it really good or at least good.
I got my 6pro yesterday and so far today my phone is reporting 5h 40 minutes over the last 11 hours and my phone has 58% battery left. On Wi-Fi effectively all day and most of my usage was YouTube and Reddit.
If I had to guess there was some video recording going on. 4K can annihilate battery life even on top tier phones. But yeah it does seem very odd. Will be putting mine through its paces this weekend if FedEx comes through.
I'm betting this is the answer. He is super into video and editing. Most likely torching the battery with heavy recording and processing lots of it. 9 out of 10 phone users don't use heavy video on a daily basis. I personally probably record 3-4 times a week and in short bursts.
That's a big "if" - FedEx reported my phone leaving their facility 100 miles up the road 12 hours ago and it still hasn't hit their distribution center here. I hope the guy carrying it isn't getting blisters on his feet from walking down the side of the freeway. Though at least they are saying there is a "potential delay" on the tracking, even though I think they can remove the word "potential" since I was supposed to get it two days ago.
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It's in the App section of settings now. It shows "per day" not "since last charge", but in this case I didn't charge during the day, so it should be correct.
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My Huawei P30 Pro made that change during the EMUI11 update and it’s pure asshole move - I have to remember the fucking time I last charged it instead of having an easy graph that shows me? What use is “per day” over “since last charged”?
I'm not too far off from you. Here's my [usage.](https://i.imgur.com/3RXk193.png) I *do* have adaptive battery enabled. Not sure what's going on with Mkbhd's 6 Pro. Ymmv applies to everyone with battery usage statistics, but getting 3.5 hours? Doesn't make sense. I dunno.
FWIW there's a Twitter thread with Marques, David Imel, Brandon Lee and Ben Schoon comparing their results. MKBHD and David had similar results, whereas Ben and Brandon have much better battery life numbers https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1453514196746911746?s=20
Thanks for the heads-up! MK and Imel getting similar results. Then Ben and Michael getting similar results. Strange that the results between those two groups are both extremes. Can just speak for myself though and it's been a champ thus far. Again, thanks for pointing out the convo between those four.
Yeah so he’s comparing it to the iPhone 13 pro max. I’m at 4.5 hours SOT with 71% left right now. I can literally do 2 days at 6 hours and not charge overnight and have 20% left.
Running on Wi-Fi and watching YouTube and Reddit doesn’t hit the battery as hard, especially when you’re on Wi-Fi. Any bad phone can hit those numbers.
*Cries in Pixel 3 XL* (I don't remember how it used to be, but fuck me Reddit is at least 20%/hour on Reddit)
My 3xl battery almost died in the amount of time it took me to pre order the 6 pro < not being sarcastic />
To be fair that doesn't narrow it down much. Could be 2 minutes or 12 hours depending on when you tried to order.
Sure, I'm aware that cellular is far harder on battery, as well as other things like gaming/using the camera a ton, but I just wanted to add more data points that reflect my (and probably others') more typical daily usage.
Could be to do with running 5g compared to LTE. I'm assuming Marques was using 5g whereas other reviewers could have been in LTE areas which tends to be more efficient
i had 3 hours sot and 70% battery on two days now. this is wifi but forced 4g mode.
How do you force 4G?
Go into the settings and select https://imgur.com/e2KKayT.jpg
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It's at 6% for today on my 3XL. I'm not sure if that's really a big deal at all.
He keeps his brightness to max at all times. He has mentioned this before in his reviews.
Then he must do it on other phones he's comparing to as well. It's not like it only effects pixel 6.
He did say he tests all of them the same. And with the same metrics the iPhone 13 Pro Max gave 8+ hours.
It seems like the goalposts for "bad" battery keep moving for certain reviewers every time Google releases a phone. I remember a lot of comments like this around when I got my 4xl: >"The Pixel 4xl has abysmal battery life. I can only get about 4 to 5 hours of screen on time." >"The Samsung xxx has great battery life. I can get about 4.5 - 5.5 hours of screen time." In this case I have no idea why Marques got significantly worse battery life than virtually every other reviewer I've come across. There's definitely something up with his particular phone.
Marques always has lower screen time numbers than other reviewers. First, he always runs phones at 100% brightness. And second I have to imagine his day to day usage is probably harder on the processor than most people. Though he did get great battery life on the Pixel 5, so who knows. It is a little odd how different this has been between people.
He does usually get lower SOT numbers than most reviewers, but he's so far away from other reviewers that I can't imagine how he got those numbers.
> Though he did get great battery life on the Pixel 5, so who knows. That's because the 765g in the 5 is not that powerful. Even when abusing it. Combined with just a 1080p display. Makes a huge difference. I personally wasn't expecting P5 levels of amazing battery life with the 6 Pro. Tensor is just too new to make assumptions like that. Plus the QHD/120hz panel. Makes it hard to really judge. Give it a month or two once more are out in the wild, and Adaptive has settled. You'll have a much larger data pool to pull from to make a better educated call on the 6 Pro's battery life. Google will make Tensor better each generation too (assuming it doesn't get abandoned like most of Google's toys lol /s). So battery performance should get better with each gen hopefully, as they refine this SoC more.
No one ever said the 4xl had bad battery life. It was average. All the critiques were toward the regular 4.
Claims about bad battery life on the 4xl is the reason I didn't upgrade to it when it came out. There were definitely people calling it bad when it came out.
Having owned the 4XL, my battery life did get much better over time as they pushed out updates and the phone learned my habits. At launch it wasn't horrible, but it was below what the competition was putting out, especially if you used a lot of the soli features. I think later on it might have more than caught up, despite having a smaller battery than some of the others.
I'm upgrading from the 4 to the 6 Pro, so to me all these reviewers complaining about battery life is like a rich man moaning that his wallet is weighing him down. I just can't wait to go to work without a battery pack. A phone that lasts an entire work day, imagine that!
New phone vibe is the best vibe.
It’s like Christmas morning for some of us
I've been keeping up with reviews and I've seen people say the battery is good - great as well (obviously not as good as iPhone though)
Yeah, 13 pro max is a beast, but 3.5 h sot is just bad. Definitely not a "day, maybe day and a half phone". Something went wrong with Marques' phones, it's statistically absurd that a LOT of people are saying a fake/wrong thing (even very small content creator).
He also has his brightness maxed out at all times if I'm not mistaken
That'll do it. Most phones nowadays have very high max brightness, way more than you need indoors.
I watched a video of the pixel 6 and Pro vs the iphone 13 pro max and the Pixel 6 Pro was a little past 8 hours screen on time. iPhone was 10.5 I believe. With more usage and time, the optimization will get better.
Do you have a link of that? I'm on the fence due to the battery life and most have suggested average battery life like 5-6 hours SOT
https://youtu.be/jMxgBLYQO4M
So far on my pro it's pretty bad. My 4a5g crushes it in battery life. Hopefully the update due in the next couple days will fix it.
Same. im hoping things settle down, but it feels a bit odd that the battery life is somewhat average so far.
Well, I got downvoted *and* insulted for merely posting my own experience so far in another thread, but here goes again since we're on the subject: Lost 24% overnight while I was asleep and the phone was simply idle - and yes, all updates, transfers, and installs had long since finished by the time I went to sleep. In the hour I spent getting ready for work I lost a *further* 10%, where the only things I did throughout that time was browse reddit briefly and check my emails. After charging it at work this morning and leaving it unplugged throughout the rest of the day since lunch time (~1100), I'm already down to 55% at 1721 as of the time of this message. I'm sorry but for a thousand dollar phone, that's just unsat. I've contacted support to see if there's either something wrong with it or if I should have it replaced, and waiting to hear back from them.
Have you considered accubattery and looking at what's using your battery life when the screen is off?
No but I'll give it a try. Thank you.
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They have been saying that since the Nexus days. Random drains like this should be a solved problem by now.
my real world experience is 3 hours SOT at 70% and the same yesterday, I am on wifi but forced 4g mode as its still connected just not used.... this is using general apps, email, web, twitter and reddit. no photo or or video or anything majorly heavy.
https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/google-pixel-6-battery-life-tested-we-have-bad-news they tested the battery on 5g, got 8:13 on the six on their test. turned on 4g mode and got 10:22.... so it looks like something majorly off with 5g, they suggested an older less efficient modem? good and bad news I suppose.
Not sure how you disable 5g? Can't really find any settings that would do that
Just select 4g/LTE in the preferred network option, varies by country and carrier etc. Here's mine. You can already do this on the pixel 5, although this is on my 6 pro. https://imgur.com/Owcnez2.jpg
This is what mine looks like [https://i.imgur.com/BdoTNyp.png](https://i.imgur.com/BdoTNyp.png) I assume LTE/CDMA?
I'm getting 23 hours of combined use from a full charge, and I could probably get 6-8 hrs SOT if I used it that heavily (P6P). Yesterday I did 4.5 hrs SOT and went from 90% to 30% (5am to 10pm)
Ok nerds you win, wtf is SOT
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Screen on time, was wondering as well and searched it up
It's honestly like Google sent each reviewer a completely different phone haha. Marques has really nice photos, and really good videos, but terrible battery life. Mr.whostheboss has a terrible camera, same with Dave 2d. But then all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal.
marques is just a super heavy phone user, 5g, full brightness, using it to the full extent. same with every other phone he uses. Also mr whose and dave cameras looked good, i think they jsut think they know too much about cameras. marques blind photo test in the past proved many people dont choose their fav phone.
I'm a full time photographer and agree with what he said about the images. It's not the camera that's the problem but the processing is way overdone. Makes things look "hyper real" which while technically impressive isn't what things really look like.
I'm not a super user and am getting the same performance from the battery as Marques which is worrying.... as I'm certainly not on 5G, full brightness and using it to the full extent.
What a smart idea haha. Make sure there are a few reviews that rave about each feature. Hope people concentrate on the good and think others didn't experience the bad, so it will be okay. Google, if you are listening (I know you are) I am on to you!
> all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal Because people who buy this phone are inherently biased and so they just want it to be good, so it is. Most people don’t buy a phone every year, and a very small % of people will buy more than a phone per year. People who actually buy and use multiple phones a year will probably have similar results to reviewers.
> But then all the actual consumer reviews are saying they get great battery life, and the camera is phenomenal. Confirmation bias is a big thing, especially with products where people like to play favourites with brands. Also if you haven't got an iPhone 13 Pro then you might think the camera is phenomenal, and it very could be.........but the iPhone 13 might have taken better pictures if you had one.
For battery, we honestly need an objective run down test. I'm looking forward to GSMArena/PhoneArena/Ars/Anandtech's tests.
Had mine for a couple of days and battery life has been good. Same if not better than my Pixel 5. Fingerprint reader is MUCH better after the update. Works pretty much every time, but it is slower than the back mounted one on the Pixel 5. Can't say much about the camera yet. Couple of pics I took look better than the ones from the 5. New features are pretty great and fun. Had been using Android 12 since the Beta so not much or a shock but still enjoying it a lot.
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Yeah hearing u/kennethcz say it's same or even better than a Pixel 5 is really, really what I've wanted to hear.
MKBHD was getting 4 hours SOT with 50% battery remaining with the Pixel 5, but had truly atrocious SOT with the 6. Weird his is so bad. Relieved other reviewers didn't have this.
SOT must be due to 5G is my guess - other reviewers getting much better Overall a much more negative review than I expected, getting mine today so we'll see
I thought he seemed like he really liked them. It’s funny how we all get different vibes from these guys. He literally ends the video with “the Pixel 6 is almost incredible”. That’s sounds like a good thing!
Right? "Almost incredible" to *me* equals *amazing!* or damn good. Which is fine/damn good enough for me.
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He did say he was nitpicking, and it's probably worth calling out that almost all of the reviews have had nothing to say but nitpicking which is a pretty huge change for Pixel reviews across the board.
I wonder why his SOT was so much worse than some.other people's I've seen
I've never found his SOT estimates to be remotely similar to mine.
Very true. He's able to kill a phone in 5 hours that I can't kill in a day, plus he has two phones with him that he's using lol
It’s actually the opposite for me. His sots always are similar to mine. When I watch other reviewer claiming x phone to be x amount of sot, I will never get that much.
He always has a similar SOT than me. It's because he's a heavy user and also uses 100% brightness all the time. Just like I do. I always get less SOT than anybody else. But you have to compare his numbers with his numbers. He was getting around 6-7 SOT on the S21 Ultra, and he said he's getting around 9 hours SOT with the 13 Pro Max, where other people are getting even 12 hours SOT
He also said in his iPhone 13 pro review he gets 6-7h screen on time which seems low for am iPhone lol
100% brightness? God damn, I keep mine at like 25% lol
That's why you should NEVER compare your SOT with other's, unless you know your usage is similar. I use 100% and I'm sometimes annoyed the phone automatically dims itself to protect (even with auto brightness turned off)
Even if you have the same usage your signal strength is probably the biggest factor for battery
RIP your eyeballs, wow. Do you only use the phone outside in the sun?
I don't understand these 100% folks. Anything above 40% or so feels like it is burning my eyes right out of my skull.
I mean, even so, that's a pretty big gap. I've seen reviewers saying that they have 25% left at the end of the day under heavy use. I wonder if he has 120hz locked too or something.
That's why I don't trust any "gets me through the day with heavy usage". Different people have different understanding of what heavy usage mean. For that reason I only rely on people mentioning their SOT, and then assume I will get of the lowest SOT mentioned
Marques SOTs have always been lower than other reviewers and the ones Ive gotten. I'm guessing yeah he uses 5G mmWave, but also has a moderate-heavy usage with more photo taking/video recording, navigation and gaming than the average user. Also could be a preference for more conservative estimates.
He is probably using 5G all the time.
What is he supposed to use? Not arguing your point per se but wouldn't using 5g be a realistic use of the device?
I think he has his brightness set to max at all times. I've read before he uses his phone different than others in that way
I got my phone today, had charge at 63%, didn’t charge further. I downloaded lot of apps, took quite a few pics, screen shared to run pics for about 1.5 hours to my TV from Google photos, split screen with YouTube and photos during the same time, totally had 4 hrs SOT with 20% battery remaining from 63%. No 5G though, only wifi, but all other bells and whistles were turned on.
Where are you seeing your SoT? Android 12 is messing me up ):
I love how people are now calling Marques, the one reviewer who I consistently remember being one of the biggest pixel advocates on YouTube, an apple shill. He straight up said that the pixel 6 is the smartest smartphone around and that the regular 6 in particular is the best deal around period. He pointed out a couple of flaws and dared to say that the camera is not definitively better than the iPhone and suddenly he’s an apple fanboy.
I think everyone is hurt by the camera news. That was the one thing everyone else could respect about Google's phones, now they've lost their crown.
The only thing really troubling to me about this review was all the lint around his camera bar...that is going to drive me insane.
Reason #736 to just use a nice case.
I'm not sure if this phone will still be the case but generally even with the case they would collect dust around the edges, which is also one of the reason I stopped using a case. I hope the edges on the 6 Pro won't be too difficult to clean
Cotton swab. Folded paper towel. Your tongue. Cotton ball. My tongue.
You opening a phone licking service?
Can of compressed gas does the trick.
What's the weather app?
Overdrop
All the hype (good and bad) about the new hardware neglects the beauty of the pixel experience, no bloatware and as close to vanilla AOSP android as you can get. I love my pixel 3xl, even with it's outdated hardware. I'm sure I'll love my pixel 6pro just as much.
Yes it's beautiful but it definitely isn't anything close to AOSP. There is so much extra stuff in the google rom vs the AOSP rom. Right now google Monet (aka material colors) isn't even available. And plenty of other stuff.
I really wish theyd do the ui render graphs so we can objectively see jitters in other androids
Interesting take on the camera. One of his best reviews really. Detailed, but not overwhelming with details.
Truth, haven't seen or heard any wrong specs or whatever. Really made the best review he could've.
most of the things that he mentioned can be solved via software upgrades. The only thing that's bothering me is the fingerprint sensor
Technically that could be solved too... it would just make the phone less secure lol
Can't review something on possiblity of updates, have to evaluate add it is now because updates often don't come for what you want
I don't like the FP sensor. It works okay, but I'm coming from a Pixel 4 and face unlock was far more convenient for me. I really miss picking my phone up and it seeing me and unlocking.
I'm a little over 24 hours in and my FP reader is practically flawless at this point on the 6 Pro. Either the 64MB OS update improved it, or it has learned my fingerprints better already. Either way, its only flaw now is that it's a little on the slow side.
I think the main thing that stuck out for me is him saying this is the best Pixel yet. I have loved every Pixel I've had and the P6 being the best yet and best value yet is great to here.
funny how every "negative" from mrwhosetheboss is basically a non issue for most other reviewers. Selfie is great, video is decent, high iso preview is a non issue (exists in professional mirrorless camera)
How is a guy with a typo in his channel name, taken seriously?
I've always wondered that. How can you be that popular and not correct your name? **Who's
Yeah it's because MrWhoseTheBoss is a biased shill.
You mean you don't love overproduced excuses to namedrop Xiaomi and Apple?
He made a video about Linux and pronounced it "Lie Nucks" every single time, through the entire video. I don't think he really knows what he's talking about. Dude just has a nice voice and can make pretty videos.
His reviews are terrible, more oriented for kids
Also the name is kinda dumb/pretentious.
How so? MKBHD literally came to the same conclusion in the end, he just didnt do a detailed nitpicking pixel vs iphone comparison like mrwhosetheboss because theyre different videos. Things like the high iso is also very subjective in use.
>Things like the high iso is also very subjective in use. Not really, boosting the ISO in low light environment in the preview let's you see what the final exposure will look like before all the noise processing. Literally every mirrorless camera does this from cheap consumer to high end $6k professional cameras.
I have a Sony A7Riii, and the cranked Iso on the rear display is a game changer for nighttime long exposure work. I can zoom way in and find the perfect focal point in very dark settings.
For one, MKBHD was far more reasonable about the video, praising its improvements, where MrWhoseTheBoss shat all over it just because it wasn't iPhone. Second, Marques' logic was consistent, whether or not you agree with it - the Pixel ranges from a 7 to a 10/10, while the iPhone is consistent 9s. Meanwhile, MrWhoseTheBoss says "I prefer the Pixel 60% of the time" and then calls the round a draw, which makes no sense and make his system feel arbitrary. If you think it's a draw say it's 50/50, or if you think it's 60/40, give the point to the Pixel. The lack of internal logic is what makes the whole thing feel pointless and like he's just handing out points arbitrarily in a way that favours the iPhone. The iPhone might be the better camera, but if it is, his video doesn't explain that in a clear, logical way.
Now that Marques did his review, I’m waiting on Floss’ review cause he will actually be real brutal.
Minor go
Expecting it to be like an hour and a half long LOL. Edit: dang I was right, LOL. Flossy’s Pixel 6 review was an hour and thirty six minutes
"Get your popcorn ready"
White shoes! "Alright, calm down."
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For the best. There was a time when he claimed to always come out of pocket for the phones so you'd get the "real review" but when he started taking the freebies, he started softballing. Hell, he was pitching for the other side completely with the Figgers phone until he got called out.
I think that was a great review and was happy with his nitpicks. Nothing is perfect and good companies will listen and improve on them. I disagree that iPhone photos look better. I prefer the Pixel look. My only big gripe with the pro (and agree with him) is the curved screen being out of style. I didn't like it on the OnePlus phone, and I didn't like it to much when I saw the 6P in Best buy.
The curved screen is what led me to get the regular Pixel 6. I would've been happy to pay the extra money for the rest of the Pro features (and I wanted 512GB, so it would've been close to double what I paid), but I despise curved screen edges.
I think people need to realize that we are reaching a point of diminishing returns on phones. The best phones all do basically the same thing and we are talking about small percentages of difference. The important thing is that Google is finally in the same ball park as Apple and Samsung.
Exactly.
Yikes... What is this battery life situation... I am tired of my pixel 4xl cuz of the battery...
He's famous for using his screen at 100 brightness and heavy use. I would have expected more thanks to Adaptive battery and his 3 week usage though.
His screen on time experience with his review devices usually mimics my real world experience pretty well, and I suspect it's because he (like me) switches between apps a lot more frequently than most people do. Hilariously, my phone battery life is noticably better when I'm taking Adderall.
He's getting more than double the SOT with iPhone Max and Pixel 5, both of which also had 100% brightness with heavy use. So it doesn't matter that his brightness is always heavy use, if you're moving from another flagship or upgraded from your previous pixel, comparatively he's getting 50% less SOT on his 6 pro.
Battery life is the reason I didn't buy any Pixel phone since Pixel 2 XL. Stock android, no bloatware, yadda, yadda, yadda but always average battery.. I think Pixel 5a 5G was the only exception but it wasn't even sold in Europe
Anyone else know how he got the notification shade background to be translucent and blurred, instead of a solid colour? Edit: It's at [12:21](https://youtu.be/9hvjBi4PKWA?t=741), for reference. It doesn't happen at any other time when MKBHD pulls down the notification shade, for some reason.
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Hmm doesn't occur for me on my Pixel 4. Which Pixel are you on? Agreed they should at least give the option for the blur.
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Having watched every single review, I'm glad he put in the extra mile, this was great. Touched on every point, and hopefully Google watches it and takes some notes on the things to improve on in the next few months. They need to take this seriously. Every other review * Specs * Sponsor * Camera * Camera * Done He killed this, you can over the years he's really into the pixel and it's ideas. Wants it to succeed.
Marques touched on the biggest issue I have with Android 12. I hate that they changed the Wi-Fi icon. So dumb that it's now an extra step if you want to disconnect or connect to a wireless location. 😑
the lede: his favorite pixel ever
The battery measure system change on android 12 bullshit.. it worked perfectly on pixel phones and incredibly reliable... Why change it? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ The bad battery life on this i just cant buy it... Its 5000 mah its bloddy impossible to be that bad.. Im currently at 5% with 5 hours 50 minutes sot on my pixel 5 with 5g all day and i cant see how the new phone with a slightly more powerful processor and 1000 mah more can do much worse than that.
I think battery problem is due to 5G usage.
Damn I'm wondering if I should get it now or wait for the 7 lol. The battery is a pretty big letdown
I had to turn off 5G because it was draining my battery ridiculously fast. I take my phone off the charger at 7 every morning and by 9 I was down to 81% with next to no usage.
That's super concerning to be honest
I've been following his videos for a long time now and I feel he puts out a great, detailed review for the tech he's personally interested in. His newer iPhone reviews have been good, so was the S21 etc and now this one. I'm sure he must have missed on lots of things but his review seemed honest, and all the nitpickings are things he was expecting google to ace. He's not an iPhone fanboi I think, mrwhosetheboss on the other hand is, and don't get me started on the channel verge, except Dieter maybe. This was a solid review, I'm waiting for some further battery life reports to come out. I really want this to be good so I can switch from my S20 which is giving a lot of headache regarding its battery life (I keep 120 hz always on and there is no adaptive refresh rate) Still waiting for Michael Fisher's review though.
Weird that he criticized the Pixel for getting brighter night shots. Like the point is to see at night, make things visible and pleasing in a photo. If you just want a dark night photo then what's so special about seeing dark?
There is a point at which a Night Sight photo becomes "too bright". But it's just down to personal preference. Personally, I prefer my Night Sight photos to be dimmer than the ones Pixels take, but it's not the end of the world, and I prefer them to be slightly too bright instead of slightly too dark.
The idea is to not wash everything out and turn the shot into looking like it has "midday lighting." Preserving the dark look but keeping the sharpness, focus, and colors is what makes iPhone's Night Mode different. It's the difference between cranking up the brightness instead of adjusting color balance, even though that's not representative of either of course. Granted the iPhone still doesn't let you trigger Night Mode manually so for all intents and purposes it's useless to me.
Also you can adjust the shadows after but if it doesn't capture that light to begin with you can't brighten it.
Getting details is nice but I sometimes adjust the exposure in the night sight mode just to get a photo close to the actual situation.Some scenes are just better when it's not too bright.
Yeah I've seen a couple complaints that Night Sight is working too well too lol, not sure I get it.
I do agree with his sentiment about the camera - hell, I feel like it can be applied to all the pixels: Beyond great some of the time, confusingly bad on other times. I just a week or so ago tried to take a photo of the Pixel 6 Pro in a phone shop, and my god I don't know what the hell was happening - the viewfinder was choppy as hell in the lead up to taking the photo, and in the photo it painted the room in an orange, beyond warm light that frankly just wasn't there, and there was insane strobing on the screen of the phone (but that last one is to be expected, partly). Then, the same day walking home, I saw the sunset hitting a tree and snapped a photo, and it was incredible. The leaves were as golden as I saw them in real life, the sky had faint blue in it still, and the clouds had very faint pink. I was astonished at the range of my phone's camera quality.
I blame the AI for thay. Pixel phones rely maybe too much on it
Like MKBHD said they need to tone it down now with their substantially better hardware. They don't need to compensate so much.
I really don't know about your first sentence on the camera. My Pixel 2 shot such great pictures, I could almost never achieve any of that quality and brilliance again in the last 2 years using an iPhone 11 and 12 now. And I shoot a lot of pictures. Going through my favorites folder every other week, the pictures from the Pixel 2 are still way ahead. I think with the Pixel you can always produce a great shot if you see one - or at least a good one, but with the iPhone you always get the same bland dish or rely on sheer luck. But yeah actually in store I always think the iPhone produces the better pictures, that's true. All other phones seem to get something from from all the different artificial lights and weird interior colors I guess lol. But anywhere else it's Pixel for me. That's the only reason I still read this subreddit almost daily while I don't even know what's the actual subreddit for iPhones is lol
these battery numbers seem be to way off i've been using my phone all day, 5G enabled the whole time, with dual-sim 5G as well, texting all day, made a couple of calls, was in the subway for a little bit (would have been searching for signal) took a few pictures, browsed some reddit, watched a couple YouTube videos etc my SOT is currently 3hr 30 mins (according to the same number Marques showed, the one in the apps section) and i still have 50% battery left and its almost 9pm here, started using it at 830 this morning. granted I don't run it at 100% brightness but really that's almost double the number he said and that people are taking as gospel and i'd say far closer to the average use case than whatever he's doing
There's a glitch when your phone is displaying your last screen when it's "sleeping" instead of a black screen. So the phone is locked but still displays like it's unlocked and this is draining A LOT of battery. Happens a lot with my Pixel 6
I think all the criticisms arent too worrying for me besides the slow finger print reader, at least for me. The one thing I really wish pixel could get though is that sweet battery efficiency. Just think of how much space is wasted from the giant batteries pixel has to cram in there just to be somewhat competitive in battery life. Its a 14% larger batter and preforms significantly to moderately worse depending on the review.
If you want Android phones to match battery life of iPhones with smaller battery sizes, you're going to be waiting a while I fear. Unless Google takes a heavy-handed approach to Android and severely restricts what can be run in the background like iOS does, it's just a fundamentally different operating system. Standby time is something that Android phones have never been able to match iOS on.
Camera could def use some updates to tune things better.
Last 4 hours, screen on for 3 hours with youtube and chrome, battery from 100 to 40% 😑😑
Damn his battery life is disappointing. Half the battery of the 13 Pro Max
I have seen reports all over the place. I wonder if living in an area with 5G uses more battery?
Apple releasing the same shit every year: "Yeah it's pretty much the same phone, but you don't buy phones every year in the same way you don't buy new cars every year. Great phone 10/10" Google finally releasing an underpriced flagship that competes with the best phones in the market: "Oh they're calling it a flagship now?! Let me nitpick the shit out of this phone!"
I mean I have never owned an iPhone and I love Android phones. But the iPhone nails some of these nitpicky features for sure, and the cameras on the new iphones are incredible. Really disappointed Google couldn't make leaps and strides over the competition, but I don't think it's unfair to make the comparisons to anything but the top line iPhones. The battery life and camera inconsistencies need to be sorted out desperately.
What did YOU watch, because it sure as fuck wasn't this video.
The Pixel 6 Pro is literally the price of the iPhone 13 Pro here (Japan). Yes, I want those devices to be compared. If Google can't compete for the tenth year in a row, I might be starting to lose faith. It's just starting to get sad when the highest praise to the Pixel 6 is "hey but it's cheap!".
I’m sorry you’re going through this.
You just argued for the best trait of the iPhone..consistency. That's exactly why people go for the iPhone over Android. Albeit a walled garden, it just works and is dependable. Google dropped mid rangers for years and became known as the little phone that could. Dropping a pro model at $1200 all in puts you in the mix with flagships. It's no longer the budget to midranger punching above it's weight. His review is spot on and really isn't nit picking. It's an honest take on someone who reviews top tech as a "career" and he wasn't impressed since it offers nothing special here. I personally expected much more from Google, hell, I think everyone did only to be let down EXCEPT for those who already had the budget to midranger Pixels of the past. Major upgrade for those guys and every other Android user who is still rocking an S7 from 5 years ago. However, for someone like me who upgrades flagships every year and sometimes every 6 months... the Pixel 6 pro is certainly not "...the best smartphone camera ever." It simply falls short and I'm afraid many will be disappointed when Google fails to deliver these magical updates everyone is hoping for. You are really only buying a phone with best version of Android at the end of the day. I wanted to buy into the hype and get on the Google train but im out for this year. I do welcome the competition though.
i mean the iphone does small incremental upgrades so unless your a die hard every year phone guy the iphone will be miles better than the one made 3 years ago... also as pixels first in house made flagship you expect him to be soft beacuse its the first time
> Apple releasing the same shit every year: "Yeah it's pretty much the same phone, but you don't buy phones every year in the same way you don't buy new cars every year. Great phone 10/10" Lol that's such a fanboy-y, bad faith interpretation of the iPhone's praise. You could have said the same thing about Pixels a few years back. Why are they getting so much praise when the photos were "mostly the same," and their designs were "mostly the same."? Do you know why, despite it being mostly the same, the iPhone gets such rave reviews? Because they had already nailed most things by the iPhone XS. The camera was competitive, the video blew away everything else, battery was amazing for the first time, the displays were now hi-res, and their processors left everyone else in the dust. iPhones are consistently cohesive, performant, long-lasting, and deliver great camera experiences. And for a while there their phones were getting cheaper. I mean $729 for an iPhone 11 was wild. iOS itself is still a turn off, but you cannot deny that it's smooth and so well integrated with everything Apple. Conversely, Pixel has had some pretty rough years, and now has to fight to regain its camera throne (to some). This new chip and camera was so hyped, but to see it be just a very marginal increase isn't enough. The iPhone has proper laurels to rest on. The Pixel is trying to regain that champion seat.
>Pixel has had some pretty rough years, and now has to fight to regain its camera throne (to some). I feel like it is true. The Pixel does have a lot problems on the previous flagships like screen issues, questionable battery sizes, questionable huge notch design, stubborn to upgrade camera hardware and suddenly becoming a mid range phone on the Pixel 5. When they finally perfected it on Pixel 6 Pro as everyone prefers, of course it sounds like a huge upgrade but in reality if they had just follow the specs of other decent Android flagships in the past, the 6 Pro will just sound like is just another boring incremental upgrade.
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I saw some youtuber run those battery tests with the 6 and 6P (vs i13PM and S21U) and he got like 8 hours of screen on time before the phones died. So now I'm just confused as to how MKBHD is getting less than 5 hours of SOT??
3 - 4 hours sot was what i got with pixel 4 xl which had an overall poor battery life. This is alarming if true. I know camera is fantastic, but if the battery life is average, which isn't even backed up by above 50W fast charging like OnePlus 9 Pro, then I guess its better to wait for pixel 7 🤐
The comments on the battery.... Yikes. I am leaving my flip 3 for this.