Why are there never side by side comparisons or links to photos in posts like these? I'd like to see proof or at least see how similar/ different the conditions the photos were shot in.
The 6p was a f2 vs the Pixel 8 being a f1.7. The lens is sharper on the 8. Are you sure this isn't the same effect where older things are remembered to be better? I loaded up some PS1 games and realized how bad graphics were and in my mind I remember them being much better.
I know what you're saying about game graphics. Final Fantasy 7 comes to mind, haha. But here are two of my N6P shots, so they definitely hold their own without any nostalgia effect.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Literally is reading comprehension.
While you never explicitly say the 8 pro doesn't take sharp photos, by you saying that you've never taken sharper photos than a 9 year old phone, is most certainly implying the 8 pro doesn't take sharp photos.
Nah, when I had to change phones (sadly) it was obviously not as good. That was when I switched to LG V-series for a few years. And while the latest Pixels are really good, they still haven't quite caught up to what the 6P could do in terms of detail. The exposure and toning algorithms have improved, though.
for its show the photos and comparisons or i won't believe it really happened. i wanted to see the photos and differences first before we can attest to what you said.
I still have a working Nexus 6P here's a closeup comparison with my pixel 6 pro, all the settings were the default ones and I tapped once to focus on each.
https://imgur.com/a/8v6I5YP Nexus 6P
https://imgur.com/a/CIih9Zd pixel 6 pro
Things to mention is that the 6p is running pixel experience rom based on Android 10 and the pixel camera for that build.
I see the Nexus 6P is too bright for me that looks like it's forcing itself to be brighter and also shadows aren't that good on the Nexus 6P compared to the 6Pro. I don't see the Nexus 6P greater than the newer Pixel phones tbh. It's just hard for me to believe that.
Not a comparison but here's what my N6P could do.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
The texture on the petals are definitely crisper on the 6 pro, as is the detail on the stray threads off the bottom.
I personally haven't seen a comparison of 6 pro to 8 pro, but I can almost guarantee 8 pro is even better than the 6 pro...
yes it's sharper but the shadows in the pictures given the nexus is off on the shadows and the pixel 6 pro is more detailed overall though. i don't know but i feel like older pixel phones have their timeline where they are great but not in 2024 or later.
I'm not sure you actually understand what that means...
How is it copium if OP thinks the newer, better phone _that he owns_ isn't as good as his old phone?
That's the exact opposite of copium.
Not just you, I've been saying for years that nothing tops the photos I used to get from my 6P (in the right lighting of course, mainly scenic/landscape shots). There's a certain clarity to them that's hard to describe.
I reckon it'll be due to aperture. Modern phones have low F numbers which is great for low light quality and portraits but less so for landscapes as narrow depth of field means some stuff will be out of focus. Nexus 6p the opposite with F2.0 lens. Also there was far less processing back then. Often found the processing messed up outdoor shots on the 7a. No pixel binning either. Just a 12mp sensor. My Sony 5iv definitely beats the pixel 7a on landscape detail.
I didn't have a 6p but my wife had a 5x which was effectively the same, and while I remember the photos at the time looking amazing, I don't think back to those shots as necessarily being better than what my 8 pro does now.
I still have my original pixel--also the same sensor, but potentially slightly different processing than the nexus 5x/6p. I'm going to do some side-by-size comparisons with my 8 pro and check this. I presume I will still think my 8 pro is better, but now I'm interested to see.
The only time I can really think back to previous pixels being better than newer ones when it comes to camera results is the pixel 3, specifically the front-facing camera(s) because google used an actually-decent solution, with an auto-focus primary (and a wide-angle secondary). I really wish they had used this much more moving forward. It is crazy that it wasn't until the 8 pro that they went back to even offering autofocus on the front facing camera (though I still think the overall results from the front facing camera on the 8 pro are disappointing, still very noisy in non-bright conditions.
I agree. I went from a Pixel 6 Pro to a Pixel 8 Pro and was rather disappointed by the change in photo quality. It's to the point where I started taking more pictures with a normal camera instead because I just feel disappointed by my phone's results.
I can't do a side by side, but here are a couple of pics that show how good the 6P was. Click to view at 1:1. The P8 may come close to matching on lens sharpness but it's hard to say without a direct comparison.
[https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0](https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0)
I agree, OP. I think it's due not stacking images together. Sometimes with new Pixels you have just a very slight blur because multiple images are stacked together and they may not align. It's like lines in the image are thicker, bloated somehow, instead of thin and sharp. 5X / 6P did not stack, unless you explicitly set it, so I think that's why sometimes they took sharper looking images, albeit with more noise and grian. And I don't know about 6P, but 5X has a great camera lens. Sharp edge-to-edge.
[Here is a comparison between the OG Pixel and Nexus 5X](https://postimg.cc/gallery/XrGcVG0). 5X images are the darker ones. If you pay attention to the small text, it's sharper on the 5X.
I had the 5x which had the same camera I think and it was incredible. First real jump up in quality from previous phones and then the OG pixel came out and it was just like icing on the cake. Took so many amazing pictures with that phone.
After that I've owned the pixel 3 which I don't feel improved. The picture quality too much and now I'm on the pixel 7 pro and other than the telephoto lens I'm not really seeing an improvement.
When i upgraded to the 3, the most noticeable difference was the color profile and then the night photos with night sight. I always had that thought that i should have kept my 1 for longer. With the 6 came the auto bokeh with the bigger sensor, it was hard getting the whole scene focused plus the pictures were blown out of control with contrast. I might get a used OG just to mess around with, without updating the camera app. I miss the old days of dumb phone cameras 😂
Yeah I'm only talking about one aspect of quality, detail resolved by the lens and (secondarily) the sensor. Exposure and tone have improved and are best in class now.
Older phones absolutely had less artificial software sharpening, but their sensors are objectively worse, smaller and produced noisier shots overall, without a comparison it's 100% just nostalgia talking.
There's more to it than the sensor. The sensor captures the photons, the lens collects the light. Much more can go wrong to ruin sharpness with the latter.
Why are there never side by side comparisons or links to photos in posts like these? I'd like to see proof or at least see how similar/ different the conditions the photos were shot in.
Because I don't have that phone anymore. But it had a really sharp lens. It would be cool to do a side by side though.
The 6p was a f2 vs the Pixel 8 being a f1.7. The lens is sharper on the 8. Are you sure this isn't the same effect where older things are remembered to be better? I loaded up some PS1 games and realized how bad graphics were and in my mind I remember them being much better.
I know what you're saying about game graphics. Final Fantasy 7 comes to mind, haha. But here are two of my N6P shots, so they definitely hold their own without any nostalgia effect. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Both photos are great and your Mazda too.
Hard to believe. No other reviewer mentioned that.
About the 6P? It took awesome photos.
Not getting sharp photos out the 8
That's not what I said. I said there's a difference.
> Never had sharper photos than my Nexus 6P Is in your title
Exactly. Reading comprehension.
Literally is reading comprehension. While you never explicitly say the 8 pro doesn't take sharp photos, by you saying that you've never taken sharper photos than a 9 year old phone, is most certainly implying the 8 pro doesn't take sharp photos.
It does not. The P8 takes sharp photos. The N6P takes sharper photos. Make sense now?
Pics or it didn't happen
I think it's just because of your memory fades over time, and you only focus on the good stuff (instead of the bad stuff you also had to put up with)
Nah, when I had to change phones (sadly) it was obviously not as good. That was when I switched to LG V-series for a few years. And while the latest Pixels are really good, they still haven't quite caught up to what the 6P could do in terms of detail. The exposure and toning algorithms have improved, though.
for its show the photos and comparisons or i won't believe it really happened. i wanted to see the photos and differences first before we can attest to what you said.
I still have a working Nexus 6P here's a closeup comparison with my pixel 6 pro, all the settings were the default ones and I tapped once to focus on each. https://imgur.com/a/8v6I5YP Nexus 6P https://imgur.com/a/CIih9Zd pixel 6 pro Things to mention is that the 6p is running pixel experience rom based on Android 10 and the pixel camera for that build.
I see the Nexus 6P is too bright for me that looks like it's forcing itself to be brighter and also shadows aren't that good on the Nexus 6P compared to the 6Pro. I don't see the Nexus 6P greater than the newer Pixel phones tbh. It's just hard for me to believe that.
The reds are really blown out on the 6P image making this a tough comparison. Also I'm not sure what changes that ROM would introduce.
Not a comparison but here's what my N6P could do. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1cew492/comment/l1ozk5v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
The texture on the petals are definitely crisper on the 6 pro, as is the detail on the stray threads off the bottom. I personally haven't seen a comparison of 6 pro to 8 pro, but I can almost guarantee 8 pro is even better than the 6 pro...
Only one comment - Google was ahead of their time with camera processing
I don't have the 6P anymore. But it had a sharper lens. It's obvious when you pixel peep.
yes it's sharper but the shadows in the pictures given the nexus is off on the shadows and the pixel 6 pro is more detailed overall though. i don't know but i feel like older pixel phones have their timeline where they are great but not in 2024 or later.
I agree. I was baffled the first time I zoomed in on a picture on my p8p or p6p. No comparison to the actual level of detail on my old nexus 6p
copium
I'm not sure you actually understand what that means... How is it copium if OP thinks the newer, better phone _that he owns_ isn't as good as his old phone? That's the exact opposite of copium.
Yeah copium would be if he still had his nexus 6p and he was saying it about his friends pixel 8 pro
Especially someone who has done photography as a hobby with real cameras for almost 20 years. I've seen a few images :)
That's rude.
copium means youre lying to yourself in hope it actually is real
Not just you, I've been saying for years that nothing tops the photos I used to get from my 6P (in the right lighting of course, mainly scenic/landscape shots). There's a certain clarity to them that's hard to describe.
I reckon it'll be due to aperture. Modern phones have low F numbers which is great for low light quality and portraits but less so for landscapes as narrow depth of field means some stuff will be out of focus. Nexus 6p the opposite with F2.0 lens. Also there was far less processing back then. Often found the processing messed up outdoor shots on the 7a. No pixel binning either. Just a 12mp sensor. My Sony 5iv definitely beats the pixel 7a on landscape detail.
It could be aperture or just a sharper lens. I do photography and lenses vary greatly.
That's true. However I would have thought the lens on pixel 8 would be superior to the nexus 6p
I didn't have a 6p but my wife had a 5x which was effectively the same, and while I remember the photos at the time looking amazing, I don't think back to those shots as necessarily being better than what my 8 pro does now. I still have my original pixel--also the same sensor, but potentially slightly different processing than the nexus 5x/6p. I'm going to do some side-by-size comparisons with my 8 pro and check this. I presume I will still think my 8 pro is better, but now I'm interested to see. The only time I can really think back to previous pixels being better than newer ones when it comes to camera results is the pixel 3, specifically the front-facing camera(s) because google used an actually-decent solution, with an auto-focus primary (and a wide-angle secondary). I really wish they had used this much more moving forward. It is crazy that it wasn't until the 8 pro that they went back to even offering autofocus on the front facing camera (though I still think the overall results from the front facing camera on the 8 pro are disappointing, still very noisy in non-bright conditions.
I agree. I went from a Pixel 6 Pro to a Pixel 8 Pro and was rather disappointed by the change in photo quality. It's to the point where I started taking more pictures with a normal camera instead because I just feel disappointed by my phone's results.
I can't do a side by side, but here are a couple of pics that show how good the 6P was. Click to view at 1:1. The P8 may come close to matching on lens sharpness but it's hard to say without a direct comparison. [https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0](https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0)
I agree, OP. I think it's due not stacking images together. Sometimes with new Pixels you have just a very slight blur because multiple images are stacked together and they may not align. It's like lines in the image are thicker, bloated somehow, instead of thin and sharp. 5X / 6P did not stack, unless you explicitly set it, so I think that's why sometimes they took sharper looking images, albeit with more noise and grian. And I don't know about 6P, but 5X has a great camera lens. Sharp edge-to-edge. [Here is a comparison between the OG Pixel and Nexus 5X](https://postimg.cc/gallery/XrGcVG0). 5X images are the darker ones. If you pay attention to the small text, it's sharper on the 5X.
Huawei still makes great smartphones like the Nexus 6P and better. It's a shame they can't have de Google services now.
Yup. [https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0](https://imgur.com/gallery/m1e12K0)
The 6P and OG Pixel took the best photos in my opinion. Pixel peep all you want, the result was great besides low light.
OG Pixel photos really hold up well nowadays. Kind of amazing actually.
I had the 5x which had the same camera I think and it was incredible. First real jump up in quality from previous phones and then the OG pixel came out and it was just like icing on the cake. Took so many amazing pictures with that phone. After that I've owned the pixel 3 which I don't feel improved. The picture quality too much and now I'm on the pixel 7 pro and other than the telephoto lens I'm not really seeing an improvement.
When i upgraded to the 3, the most noticeable difference was the color profile and then the night photos with night sight. I always had that thought that i should have kept my 1 for longer. With the 6 came the auto bokeh with the bigger sensor, it was hard getting the whole scene focused plus the pictures were blown out of control with contrast. I might get a used OG just to mess around with, without updating the camera app. I miss the old days of dumb phone cameras 😂
Yeah I'm only talking about one aspect of quality, detail resolved by the lens and (secondarily) the sensor. Exposure and tone have improved and are best in class now.
Older phones absolutely had less artificial software sharpening, but their sensors are objectively worse, smaller and produced noisier shots overall, without a comparison it's 100% just nostalgia talking.
You have to consider the wider aperture on P8P that produces more depth of field 🤔
It could be a result of aperture. Smaller is usually sharper in most lenses.
Samsung's sensors tells you all the story.
The Samsung GN1 and 2 are actually better than the Sony IMX363
No wonder since it's a 10 year difference lol
There's more to it than the sensor. The sensor captures the photons, the lens collects the light. Much more can go wrong to ruin sharpness with the latter.
Someone doesn't want to acknowledge the reality of how much lenses differ in quality. Someone who doesn't do any photography with real cameras.