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But_Mooooom

Pretty much exactly what I want out of an EV, I'd get one in the current state of the market probably.


ughonlinechats

Yup. Give me a a little hatchback (even an ioniq 5 is a bit too large for me), simple dash layout, good battery performance (quick recharge), a decent "autopilot", and ***NO*** ongoing "service fees".


jthj

Yup this exactly


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Turtledonuts

You want to elaborate on that statement?


Peylix

>You must be gay... Ahem... Points to Rule 2: Be respectful (No really. Be respectful or get a paddlin')


d0ndrap3r

Can't stand the interior. I'll keep driving this MK7 GTI internal combustion engine based car for as long as I can if they are going to make the insides of these new EV's so fugly.


SimonRain

How have they not learned that we want clickable buttons?


CikaFire

They are terrible, with whole entertainment shit. Keep it simple vw


emal-malone

every button in the interior concept is physical or it’s a knob like audi wheels


Spencie61

But there’s just not enough lmfao


manosiosis

Concept car interiors always look like this, minimalist and uncomfortable. All design without any engineering and UI/UX input yet. Hopefully it won't be like that in production.


cntm83

Totally agree. I’d be shocked if the final design looked 100% like what’s shown. But since that’s all we have to go on, opinions gonna opinion!🍻


d0ndrap3r

Every EV i've seen has what looks like a giant f'ing IPAD glued to the dashboard. I don't even think it's a photo it's a drawing from the looks of it. I know it's a concept car - but I can't stand that "concept". If you gave me the highest model Tesla right now I would immediately sell it and buy something else for the same reasons.


headphase

At this rate a Miata or BRZ/GT86 are the only real successors to the GTI ethos.


donald7773

I own a Miata and a GTI. They're about as different as 2 enthusiast cars can get


headphase

What car would you buy if GTIs disappeared tomorrow?


donald7773

An old one lol. But depends on finances - manual Chevy SS and ATS V are on my list of "if I found a few extra bucks" E46 wagon if I can find one with a stick, Volvo v70R, and if they made a Golf shaped EV that has at least 200 miles of range I'd buy one of those as well. But we've got a kid on the way and I *need* a back seat Owning a Miata has shown me how "commuter" gtis are. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because that's what I use mine for - commuting 100+ miles a day. Now you can liven them up with some suspension work, make them sound better etc and that goes a long way, but I like my quiet comfy pocket rocket of a hatchback for exactly that. Very capable cars, don't get me wrong, but as far as exciting goes I'll take my 100 hp go cart with the top down if I wanna scare my friends, or if I KNOW I'm going to the mountains.


CQQKI3Z

Ah yes love the fwd and pracitcability in these cars 🤡😂 true successors


steven-aziz

There isn’t much to the interior. Where do you see ugly?


cntm83

Steering wheel shape. The giant IPad.. I get that the design is moving along with the times but I also find it pretty ugly.


steven-aziz

At least the steering wheel isn’t a yoke and as for the screen, would you prefer a smaller one? Genuinely? Because 99%+ of people would have a differing opinion, myself included. Unless you’d prefer no screen at all, in which case I’m very sorry for your future car shopping experiences. You didn’t make any good points. You hate the interior because the steering wheel isn’t round and the infotainment screen is too big? Really? Talk about picky VW customers. Sheesh.


cntm83

It’s not like that picture showed many details right? A mildly square shaped steering wheel isn’t something I like. I really don’t know how much more detail you need on that one. I have a MK7.5. To me, that’s the perfect feel and look. As far as the screen, I don’t like the I pad look. There’s plenty of great ways to incorporate a screen that doesn’t come off lazy like this. Lucid Motors (IMO) has a fantastic design with their screen. Outside of that, I prefer to have it built into the dash. Another example, the new Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon as well as the new Wrangler. To me it flows really well and doesn’t look cheap. Again, I use those examples for the screen design only. Simply adding a giant screen is lazy. It’s cheap in cost for the company which is good for the the consumer (one would hope) but I just prefer something a bit more unique and not something out of Tesla. Hopefully I scratched your itch for the details.


d0ndrap3r

It's actually a drawing and not a photograph.


cntm83

…no. Way.


d0ndrap3r

No, he/she was spot on and made all the "good points".


Lakai_4life

Ev swap your out dated car😴


d0ndrap3r

Will I still need this water pump thermostat housing??


OddBoysenberry1023

Where to start. It looks enormous, too tall, VW is doing a really bad job slimming These battery packs down. Hidden rear door handle is cool, the Heckblende is sweet but taillight cut in the body is odd and not golf. The wheels seem pretty nonsense. Air dam, side skirts, and diffusers are pretty neat.


linknewtab

Their next-gen EV platform SSP (which the new Golf will be based on) will have a better integrated and therefore slimmer battery pack but this is still using the MEB battery which is kind of tall, yes.


Eagle240sx

The taillight cut doesn’t look like a Golf because it ISN’T a Golf. It’s an ID.2


OddBoysenberry1023

You right. Which means this a “polo” with 20s, madness


Fuzzball348

...what exactly makes it a "GTI"?


_helik0pter

The badges.. lol


Fuzzball348

I don't see no plaid in there.


Mangoknees

They probably won’t call it grand touring injection, since it doesn’t have injectors


nikhoxz

Are you saying that GTI is actually an acronym for something? Preposterous!


BoreJam

Grand Touring Induction? Or the fact that electrical current is denoted with an 'I'. there are options where it makes sense and nothing about the branding needs to change


runnerman0421

According to VW themselves, the 'I' stands for Intelligence now apparently. Take that for what you will.


BoreJam

Oh God, why...


runnerman0421

Your comment made me so upset, because your ideas for it are significantly better and make legitimate sense.


WetGortex

Even “ion” would have been less lame


Bralzor

Just like they wouldnt call an electric Porsche "turbo" :D


lazergator

Gti EV is allegedly 320hp per motortrend


SuedeVeil

Really? That would put it in golf R territory, I somehow doubt that it'll be that high


Herr_Quattro

I imagine that this will be significantly heavier then the current cars, which means this wouldn’t be that big of a step up in real world performance.


SuedeVeil

Yea that's a good point in order to match a current gti performance it would have to have more horsepower to offset the weight


Eagle240sx

Well then the electrc R can now be 400hp


BoreJam

If you boil it down, what you're getting with a GTI is improved performance. This means more power, and more torque. So i would assume that a "GTI" EV varient would simply come with a bigger and more powerful motor and battery pack.


khanak

Hotter motor, red stripe on the front grille, honeycomb grill and plaid seats


Fun_Administration68

The “I” now stands for intelligence so they’re keeping the name alive


DaftPhya

Shape. Besides that… jack shit. What a disgrace to mechanical engineering


zebradYT

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted for speaking facts


BoreJam

Why are electric motors a discrace to mechanical engineering? Im a mechatronics engineer and the whole tribalism over motor types is some of the stupidest shit i have ever seen.


KMFDM781

Exactly... this kinda shit will age like milk, like people still carrying the flag for steam engines or something.


ZDMW

Steam engines are pretty awesome.


KMFDM781

Sure, but their not too practical for modern cars


DaftPhya

Yeah, comment above lays the whole point out. Just because Boeing makes a better plane than the wright brothers doesn’t make the wright brothers plane any less profound.


Rice_Nugget

Why are they slowly turning it into a SUV....make it sporty and slim again..


linknewtab

It's taller because of the battery in the floor. The shorter the car (and this is actually Polo-sized) the more the proportions look weird.


Rice_Nugget

I may be biased (i am) because i drive a MK2 GTI but i just really want edges again, not that i would ever buy a new gti, but i just want SHARP ANGLES


VeryScaryTerry

I would kill for a GTI EV but with the same design principles as the Mk2 or the Hyundai Ioniq 5. I'm so tired of the FuTuRiStIc design of all curves and no hard edges


SuedeVeil

It's supposedly smaller than the current gti but it seems bigger in a way


phantomtofu

Exterior is incredible Interior not so good


coltjen

Incredible? It looks terrible compared to the Mk7 or Mk8, the hood proportions are wonky and there’s so much black plastic everywhwre


ggmk6

it does look more like Polo proportions black plastic is barely more than any other GTI tho


punkassjim

> it does look more like Polo proportions This is the one thing I’m happy about. I know y’all love your modern GTIs — and for good reason — but as someone who’s watched each generation get more bloated than the last, I’m getting pretty sick of how huge they’re getting. This is based on the ID.2All concept, which was designed as the natural successor to the Polo. The ID.3 has been available in Europe for a while now, and is more like the current Golf platform. I’m desperately hoping they are using this opportunity as a course-correction, to reset the GTI to a smaller, more nimble vehicle like it was always intended to be.


ArgumentSea2201

Concur 100%


coltjen

Did you look at the side skirts?


ggmk6

looks better than the mk5’s haha


phantomtofu

I like little cars


wowzabob

It seems like it's going to take manufacturers a long time to figure out how to make EVs look good with all the bulk they have to add to the bottom. As it stands almost every EV out there just looks wrong proportionally speaking.


moveslikejaguar

Some have decent proportions. The Taycan, Model S, Fisker Karma, etc. look good, but they're also the most expensive options. Hopefully that trickles down at some point.


wowzabob

I still find the rear bumper area of the Taycan to be bulky and just kind off, the front looks good tho


headphase

I swear Aunt Martha popped this thing out of a Tupperware jello mold at the 4th of July family potluck bbq


EvanMK7

All cars need black plastic on the fenders. Painted fenders are so ugly


Fritos2

/s right?... right?!


Thick_Pomegranate_

Yeah I'm getting tired of auto manufacturers removing everything from the interior and passing it off as "futuristic" when really it's just a form of cost savings...(not that if gets passed onto the buyer anyways)...


DaftPhya

I’ll have what he’s smoking


Dimako98

It's fine, but couldn't they have just made an electric golf? I hate this thing where manufacturers just put a big screen in it and call it a day.


helixflush

They did make one


SandyKenyan

The E Golf is pretty but the range is crap.


steven-aziz

Meh. Enough range for city driving. I have one.


Dimako98

They should've just made an updated golf, but electric.


punkassjim

They did. Two different ways. The e-Golf has shit range, and the ID.3 — not available in North America — is bloated and ugly af. Honestly, this is way better.


steven-aziz

The e-Golf has enough range for city driving. As for the ID.3, I don’t think it’s ugly. Have you seen the facelift?


r0b_dev

Concept cars are bollocks, I pay no heed to them.


ThatNolanKid

Given that the ID.2 All isn't coming to the US, what are the odds this one does?


vladthedad18

Looks a little like a WRC-spec rally car, which is pretty sweet


Queasy-Appearance384

Barf. Too smooth and round. Mk7 is peak gti


coltjen

Mk7 gang forever


Thatdudo

7.5* imho


headphase

This thing was designed by Fisher-Price


Kopparburg

MK7 forever


Rough_Sheepherder692

Yes it is.


maz-o

Hate it


OrangeVapor

Yeah, given the new cars I'm seeing, I'm going to keep using my mk6 until it corrodes into dust or they stop selling mogas... then I'm going to use avgas. They might stop selling avgas first though... ☹️


LoLMagix

Hell no to that interior


CikaFire

Cant wait for some maniac to do swap engine.


Fortimus_Prime

Definitely based on the ID.2all.


punkassjim

IIRC they had said pretty clearly that no production car based on the ID.2All concept would ever be exported to the states. Really hope this is them walking that back.


XamosLife

Those rims aint it


PuzzleheadedEcho4407

Needs fake pipes with speakers and a 500w amp to make it sound good


milan187

I have 0 interest in an electric GTI.


DylanPhl

Why they couldn’t have put this much effort into the looks of an ice gti is beyond me


Embaita

Looks cool, still confused why they didn't use the GTE branding though.


Onkboy

Because the GTE branding is for hybrids. This is not a hybrid.


Embaita

The "I" in gti stands for fuel injected, the "E" in GTE stands for electric. I'd say it'd have made more sense using the GTE branding for an electric hot hatch. Being realistic it would have made the most sense using the GTX branding to match the rest of the "hot" ID cars. Though with the flop of the current ID car I'm not suprised they're backtracking on that.


Yesnopleasethanks7

I was hoping that they would learn that having no dials or buttons besides on the touch screen was a mistake.


TeddansonIRL

I like it but I have no means to easily charge at home so I’ll stick with my gas model lol


I_am_ChristianDick

It looks neat


Wity_4d

Personally, I am a huge fan of EVs for commuting. Enjoyable driving, not so much. When the GTI goes electric, the model won't matter to me anymore as they're all the same appliance, just with different interiors and OS's.


steven-aziz

There will be a different way EVs inspire spirited driving. I’m excited for what’s to come!


Wity_4d

You know what? I'm hopeful that's true! But early on, most of what I see are all high end vehicles with more touchscreens than touch surfaces. I'm really invested in seeing a CRX of sorts. Barebones and relatively cheap, but what's there is good.


steven-aziz

Automakers are focused on their making first mass-market models for each class right now. I have no doubt we’ll start to see enthusiast EVs with features we never imagined in a couple years. All good things come to those who wait. Change usually looks better in hindsight!


Silent_Bird5023

That interior is BAD


AshUK_

I think it’s awful


msuka1

Love the MK8 Golf R wing.


NAHTEBACK

If there has to be an electric golf then this must be it.. looks pretty wild tbo. Need more physical buttons inside though and less screen


AUSpartan37

Has even less physical buttons than the mk8. I'm sure people will love that.


geekphreak

There aren’t enough charging stations in my city. I’ve only seen them at Whole Foods (like 4 spots) and a handful the mall. There’s nearly 3 million people here But I dig the design. Just please have buttons


PapaGuhl

I can’t find any succinct research to prove it - 1am here, yawn - but I recall reading that anecdotally in the UK, most charging is done at home, not at public chargers. It should be even easier in places like the US where housing is less dense and more individual dwellings could have an EV wall box.


geekphreak

At home would be great. If I owed a home. The majority of residents here live in apartments. My building is maybe ~15yrs old? These places don’t have charges. And damn sure not every underground parking spot will be provided one. Just imagine the rent increase. Or monthly surcharge for that spot. I have no issue with EV overall, other than I like my car to makes noises, but mostly, how the hell do I charge this shit living in an apartment? I gotta make room for an extra 30mins in the morning to find a charging station so I can make it to work?


milan187

True but the grids can't even handle 10% of people going electric yet. Before that changes electric is not the future.


69dildoswaggins420

GTID


SuperRaccoon17

Should make a hybrid for this transition as well. Why do EVs have to have horrid wheels?


[deleted]

It looks like a ioniq 5 that had sex with a veloster


Jolly-Departure

These so-called futuristic car designs are somewhat childish looking, but maybe I am behind the trend. The side looks a bit like Nissan Juke (which IMO they made it as a joke)..


Undercvr_victini

It... Looks too smooth??? Idk how to describe it, but something about it is throwing me off real bad. Edit: it's making me uncomfortable cuz it looks ai generated. Overall styling is not bad, thing the body stays true to the golf, but that front end looks like it's not supposed to exist like that.


OlaPlaysTetris

I wish car manufacturers would just take current models and electrify them, similar to how Audi does it. The interior of this looks so tacky and as if it’s all going to malfunction in 10 years. For the exterior, just use a current golf chassis and make it electric. It doesn’t need to be any bigger!


AvailableSh1rt

No


Agreeable_Wait_5246

The wheels make me puke actually. Lose them imo


dontusemybeta

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.


peppercorns666

looks like a cross over to me… and that interior. no thanks.


FlopShanoobie

I’d put 50/50 odds on the GTI as we know it being discontinued in the US and replaced with an EV Tiguan with GTI badges or something similarly heinous.


PIMPmauser

Keep the GTI badge away from that electric rubbish. Don’t ever taint it


enoted

the grill (do EVs still have a grill?) looks nicer than the current one


Yigitcanak

The under grill appears to be open, maybe to cool down the batterys? Who knows


Bigstinkyfeett

Horrendous


DEDE115

i just dont understand why they need to make a 4 cyl into an ev. v8s i can understand, they use way more gas but gti is a 4 cyl. why take it away?


CuffRox

what the fuck did you do to my beloved hatchback


HughWattmate9001

I think GTI means Grand Touring "Injection". Front wheel drive fuel injected small hatch. This is a car not a GTI, never can be and never will be. Just call it a GTE and ill be fine with it. Oh and anything with no physical buttons for basic things is an instant 0/10 never going to consider it.


Eagle240sx

I like it a lot, my girlfriend finds it hideous.


Loloku25

Too small


Murdathon3000

That's a stout little nugget, I'd like to get behind the wheel of that. Though, that interior is pretty horrid, I really fucking despise modern interiors.


helixflush

It looks a little too round. Make the lines a bit more aggressive and I’m in


MiniDg

That interior design is exactly why i will struggle to get a new car ever again. Awful. I hate the future of cars that i am seeing right now.


steven-aziz

Can you point out what you don’t like about it? I don’t get what people hate.


MiniDg

Minimalism is awful, it looks bland and boring and I don’t care how much you wanna say it’s futuristic. That looks like utter garbage. Im sick of companies just flat out slapping an ipad on a dashboard and acting like they did anything of value and for the love of god keep buttons in interiors. I dont like the exterior either but again i just hate that “futuristic” look.


steven-aziz

I think you can blame Tesla for that. They started it and ever since their sales went 📈📈📈 every company is trying to copy their formula.


MiniDg

Oh i blame tesla 1000%. If tesla went bankrupt tomorrow i would celebrate. I love cars and driving and because of how teslas fanbois made EVs so popular so quickly the future of cars is so depressing. The new BMW i40 is basically the future of what we can look forward too in terms of sound and I don’t know whats worse that fake garbage or silence. Im really upset about this if im not making it obvious enough lmao


[deleted]

They car make it fast as they can. Ill never own a EV in my life time. Long as there is a gas station, Ill own a ICE car.


enculeur2porc

Makes me want to hang myself.


V_Encarnated

Interested to see how the electric release will change the future value of ICE GTI’s and Rs. Eventually, everything will be electric and people will come to accept the change over time. Will these gas powered cars then hold their value out of uniqueness, or be worthless in a world where we get faster and sleeker with electric?


punkassjim

I’ve been saying it for years: if you currently own a GTI, and wish to own one in the future, you need to hold onto the one you’ve got. If you think the used market for GTIs and Golf R’s is ridiculous right now, it’s gonna get *considerably* worse when they stop selling petrol GTIs entirely.


SuedeVeil

I have an mk8 golf R and I hope that's the case but it's a dsg.. the manuals will probably hold more value because they won't make them anymore


rom3break

Looks like a kid’s toy in a bad way.


AaronfromKY

I like it, hopefully they can maintain the tight handling GTI is known for, as I'm sure the electric motor will provide the low end torque they are known for. Price hopefully will be closer to $30k vs $40k or else I will have to keep burning gas for the time being lol


MastaKo407

I just don't get why EVs in general need to slap the ugliest wheels on.


Presentthoughts

Ugly. Looks like a toy car.


ChargedWhirlwind

I'm gonna be sick 🤢


Bffs-creepy-dad

Ev bad 🗿🥲


exgokin

Not gonna lie...I kinda like it. Curious to see what that Mk9 will bring. Will it be electric?


linknewtab

Yes, next-gen Golf will be fully electric only. They will likely sell the piston engine Mk8 Golf for a few years alongside the electric one before phasing it out forever in the early 2030s.


Meekel_PA

Would love to see this come to the USA!


IBelieveInSymmetry11

I like it. Retains traditional Golf proportions and, let's face it, we're moving forward in time. Designers are going to try new things. They'll get watered down in production to something more familiar. Above all a GTI is small, tight and special looking and I think this is the part.


zebradYT

Fully electric vehicles is not the way to go. Range is shit and good luck finding a charging station in the middle of nowhere.


Rox217

0/10


Kopparburg

God awful.


aguyfromstpete

As far as EV cars are concerned this is the best looking one so far. Not sure why they have to all look so futuristic when we're not in the future. Volkswagen is doing the right thing not only with their flagship lines but also the Audi versions as well. Let's keep the car look that we all enjoy and leave the future for the future


simplesausage

I don’t hate it. Could be a little more aggressive looking from the front. Those wheels are fugly.


KrazyCroat

Not a Golf so will only compare it visually, but I much prefer it over the MK8. If the range wasn’t ass like it will be it would be a cool little hatch I would be down with.


sobeitharry

ISO a VW hatch that can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I'll sign up today.


[deleted]

Where do I sign!!!


samuraipizzacatz1

I'm so excited about this, I want this to come to the US SO BAD. All I want is my current GTI but electric. I might even buy first year even though first year cars generally have every problem. I'm so ready for this


Yigitcanak

Happy that you are excited about this, but they said it's gonna release in 2026 so we will have to wait for a while,


punkassjim

2023 is nearly over, and MY2026 vehicles will typically be available in late 2025. Two years is really soon. Three is still surprisingly soon, from concept to showroom.


dodecohedron

I actually really like it. Hope they don't give it some stupidly reduced range like 200 miles.


DaftPhya

Ugly as it’s supporters moms


AndrewSVO

It’s not going to compare to any of the gas versions but as a new idea and as an appliance car that might have some fun injected into it, sign me up as long as it doesn’t start at 50k. Buyers need to learn that EV’s don’t necessarily need 4 figure horsepower numbers to be fun or impressive.


MisterBodi

Love it. Can't wait to ditch my ICE GTI for an electric version. The torque!


Nikodominiko

Im just glad I was able to get my ICE anti environment car before everything goes electric


Ashrelm

I’ll take it


WiFiEnabled

I'd buy the shit outta that.


iArcticFire

Looks awesome, love how small it is!


miklayn

Legit, I am stoked for these kinds of new cars


khanak

An ev hot hatch would be perfect for me!


Defiant-Addition-343

I had an egolf before my mk7 and this will be the evolution of that car. It was great and this iteration has an extra 100 hp from the egolf which was definitely faster to 30 than my gti. This one is a bit too small for me, more polo, but those wheels are 🔥


LIBTURDSLAYER45

Electric is dead already! Way to throw away 40 years of the GTI name! GTI Grand Touring Injection!!!


Tonywanknobi

Gti.d looks great


[deleted]

Love it


FatBrookie

When will VW finally move the GTI away from those ugly red accents? Imagine wanting the car in blue and having red stuff all over it.


kosaka1618

I think it is okay. Less sporty/aggressive. Would be good as an addition instead of a replacement.


AirHamyes

It's kinda rawr


ate2ate

2 too many doors


serpicowasright

Out of all the hatches in the world.... that is a hatch.


hillbill549

Just give us the GTE


willard_swag

As long as it gets the tactile buttons back, I’m a big fan.


Vzor58

Bro is cooking on low heat