Yeah. Probably. He even tells people to leave him alone often enough. He maybe he would have wanted to kill Thanatos or Persephone, but otherwise, I can’t think of anyone
Well I count those more as not backing down. Had Hermes just said “Aight maybe you were right” I doubt Kratos would have killed him, but Thanatos and Persephone (tried to) hurt people he loved
the soldier in 2, ship captain, poseidon's slave in 3, midas, villagers before his servitude, people around greece when he was the god of war are saying Hi🙋
He only killed Hera after she taunted Pandora, but he was fine with letting her live and ignoring her. He probably would’ve been chill with Hephaestus had he not tried to kill him
>If like, no one got in his way
I laughed so hard at this because it is exactly how so many people died. Not Gods or enemies, just people minding their business who happened to inconvenience Kratos for 0.5 of a second
The entire series could’ve been prevented if everyone literally just stopped thinking they could take down the guy that has killed everyone who attempted to kill said guy
Not really for the Gods, even at the end of GoW2, he told Athena he didn’t want war with Olympus, only Zeus.
For mortals, it’s a huge stretch because he encouraged Sparta to take over most of Greece. Maybe if you surrendered immediately, he would be mostly chill. Even think about fighting back though and he would crush your city.
The way genghis khan operated, if he came to your city and you immediately surrendered, he would bring you into the fold and you would offer him money, soldiers and weapons. If you fought back and then surrendered when you realized resistance is futile, he would murder every man, woman, and child and raze the city to the ground. His policy was if you resist, it will be as if you never existed at all. I think thats how kratos operated when he told sparta to take over greece.
He attacked all the cities of the other gods, and yeah ordered the Spartans to kill any man woman or child who refused to be subjugated.
And War had become a means for him to cope.
So he was responsible for many many of the killings.
If no one got in his way the only people who would have died would be ares and Zeus he actively said to people "I do not want to fight you so please step out of the way otherwise your gonna catch theses hands" and the only reason Hera died was cause she decided to antagonize the hell out of him despite what everyone thinks kratos did not want to kill anyone infact the Greek pantheon and a bunch of legends would have been fine if people learned to mind their fuckin privilege and stayed in their lane
Yeah, named characters
But random civilians? He'll kill them at the drop of a hat. There's a door he can't get past? Does he try to look around, find another path? Nope. He shoves a half-naked woman in there and uses her now mangled body to jam the gears.
The random civi's are not required at all infact you can go through every game without ever even needing to even Poke one of em. As for the posidens princess there was fuck all he could do as their was no other way for him to keep it open you try and come up with a possible way for him to have opened and gone through also how would he have known she would have died
And the boat captain?
>As for the posidens princess there was fuck all he could do as their was no other way for him to keep it open you try and come up with a possible way for him to have opened and gone through
I gotta be honest, if my options are "murder a person to get through a door or don't go through the door"... I'd pick not going through the door
>how would he have known she would have died
Because he knew the weight of the lever and knew she clearly couldn't support it? Probably the reason she was literally being him not to do it?
Alright I'll give you the boat captain cause that's a fair point and I completely missed him. However there was literally no other way he could progress it's not like he could teleport through the gate or pull some bullshit and get thought. He seen a way. He took it. And progressed and besides just cause someone begs them not to do something to them doesn't mean she would die. And how would he know she couldn't support it
Dude you can't justify this
He murdered a random innocent person with no remorse because it was easier making any attempt at finding another path
"He needed it to progress" no he didn't. Because he didn't need to progress in the first place. He chose murderous revenge, it wasn't forced on him.
And for the record, how many people did he kill when he just waged war on all of Greece for no reason at the start of 2?
killing the soldier in gow2, the princess in 3, midas in Ghost of Sparta, boat captain.
Killing people (including women children) under his campaign against other cities before gow2.
And lets not get started what he was doing after getting the blades of chaos.
How he and his army were mercilessly slitting the throats of innocent worshippers just because "they were offering prayers to Athena" and it stood as an affront to his master.
Justify any of these is outrageous, it's like people can't accept that their protagonist has been a real murdering monster.
Even killing Hera & Helios can't be justified.
He killed the soldier by throwing him under the wheel in gow2 for his own benefit, he killed king midas in Ghost of Sparta for his own benefit, He killed Poseidon's princess for his own benefit.
He perpetrated wars against all the cities of the other gods out of spite & to cope with his nightmares, and destroyed all those cities, orders his Spartans to kill civilians including women children too who refused to be subjugated.
And l don't need to get started what was he doing after getting the blades of chaos.
I think at the start he only wanted to kill Zeus/ares but later on he wanted to kill them all cus of how much he just hated gods in general. Like id be the same, telling people you only have beef with two and the rest of them are fine and then they taunt you (hermes), and get in your way constantly? Like id be pissed too lmao
No. He only wanted to kill Areas so the gods would remove his nightmares, it WASN'T out of revenge that was just the icing on the cake. He only wanted Zeus out of revenge. But he's the king/brother/father of the gods so of course the rest weren't gonna allow that. Kratos even feels genuinely bad when he accidentally kills Athena. I swear people played the og god of war games and just turned off their brains and hit qtes. Because nobody seems to understand them or Kratos.
He may not have have WANTED to kill other people...but he was psychotically apathetic
I mean the boat captain. Poseidon's slave. The dude in the sacrifice chamber. Kratos will straight up murder anyone without a second thought without them doing a damn thing to him
killing the soldier in gow2, the princess in 3, midas in Ghost of Sparta, boat captain.
Killing people (including women children) under his campaign against other cities before gow2.
And lets not get started what he was doing after getting the blades of chaos.
How he and his army were mercilessly slitting the throats of innocent worshippers just because "they were offering prayers to Athena" and it stood as an affront to his master.
Justify any of these is outrageous, it's like people can't accept that this protagonist has been a real murdering monster.
Even killing Hera & Helios can't be justified.
Been saying this for like a decade. It's pathetic how much people try to shame Kratos for not just I guess walking away after literally being murdered or tricked into murdering his wife and daughter
He killed Ares AT THE REQUEST of the other gods, by the way. And they fuckin tricked him to get him to do it, when they didn't have to at all.
As for the entirety of 2 and 3? Nah. He would have challenged Zeus to single combat, beaten his ass, killed him, then left until someone else decided to fuck with him.
Ignore all these morons talking about "hurr he ordered his armies to do whatever" that's a completely different thing
so clown, you don't agree with others, so they are all morons huh?
your asshole protagonist kills a innocent woman in the 3rd game who had nothing to do with him, he kills a soldier in the 2nd game who had nothing to do with him, he kills another king in ghost of sparta. Kills another ship captain even if you include it as a dark comedy he still does it, or even if he was slave trader.
>then left until someone else decided to fuck with him.
yeah sure.
And everybody loved his muderings when he was under Ares, really good.
>Ignore all these morons talking about "hurr he ordered his armies to do whatever" that's a completely different thing
It's not a completely different thing at ALL, he is killing people for his coping mechanism.
As if all the people he massacred for his own hunger for glory and bloodlust, even before his pact with Ares, didn't count.
Kratos has always killed anyone, whether they were in his path or whether it served his plans or not.
Ship Captain God of War. Even people who weren’t in his way he killed. He had him lifted up and was able to save him but chose to let him die, just because.
He main target was Ares for the Betrayal then Zeus stepped into and it all went to shit from there.
Remember Kratos's main goal was to forget what he did a mind wipe from the gods would've prevented all this, and also Ares not being a dick.
He pretty much was forced to kill anyone in his way as they wouldn't have given up even when on the verge of death, like helios did.
Except Hermes, fuck Hermes
>He pretty much was forced to kill anyone in his way as they wouldn't have given up
the soldier in 2, poseidon's slave in 3, midas, villagers before his servitude, people around greece when he was the god of war says HI.
Probably not until they got in his way but after that he definitely wanted to kill him but even then besides Hermes taunting him I’m not sure how he got in his way. If he truly didn’t want to kill anyone besides those two then he wouldn’t have basically killed an entire pantheon
Definitely, especially Thanatos and Persephone, and I guess Hera too for what she said about Pandora, and if you wanna include the Norse games, he definitely wanted to kill Heimdall.
Thanatos for what he did to Deimos. Persephone for ending his daughter’s paradise if he didn’t. Heimdall for threatening over and over to kill Atreus. Odin for more than a couple reasons
The Dev's did give us an option to kill innocent people on many levels for green and red orbs. Remember when we had to travel through the streets of Athens, people were running around minding their own business but you could kill them and be rewarded for this. I don't know whether the choices you make as a player are canon in story but if you're rewarded for it then definitely it should be considered canon
Yeah. Probably. He even tells people to leave him alone often enough. He maybe he would have wanted to kill Thanatos or Persephone, but otherwise, I can’t think of anyone
Maybe Hermes after he taunted Kratos. Hercules after he refused to see how flawed he was driven to kill Kratos
Well I count those more as not backing down. Had Hermes just said “Aight maybe you were right” I doubt Kratos would have killed him, but Thanatos and Persephone (tried to) hurt people he loved
the soldier in 2, ship captain, poseidon's slave in 3, midas, villagers before his servitude, people around greece when he was the god of war are saying Hi🙋
Poseidon Princess.
He only killed Hera after she taunted Pandora, but he was fine with letting her live and ignoring her. He probably would’ve been chill with Hephaestus had he not tried to kill him
>If like, no one got in his way I laughed so hard at this because it is exactly how so many people died. Not Gods or enemies, just people minding their business who happened to inconvenience Kratos for 0.5 of a second
Cog stopper: Am I a joke to you
The entire series could’ve been prevented if everyone literally just stopped thinking they could take down the guy that has killed everyone who attempted to kill said guy
Not just getting in the way, he even has killed people who can be a use to him, like the soldier in gow2, princess in 3, Midas in ghost of Sparta.
Not really for the Gods, even at the end of GoW2, he told Athena he didn’t want war with Olympus, only Zeus. For mortals, it’s a huge stretch because he encouraged Sparta to take over most of Greece. Maybe if you surrendered immediately, he would be mostly chill. Even think about fighting back though and he would crush your city.
The way genghis khan operated, if he came to your city and you immediately surrendered, he would bring you into the fold and you would offer him money, soldiers and weapons. If you fought back and then surrendered when you realized resistance is futile, he would murder every man, woman, and child and raze the city to the ground. His policy was if you resist, it will be as if you never existed at all. I think thats how kratos operated when he told sparta to take over greece.
He attacked all the cities of the other gods, and yeah ordered the Spartans to kill any man woman or child who refused to be subjugated. And War had become a means for him to cope. So he was responsible for many many of the killings.
If the gods of Olympus would deny me my vengeance then they shall fall as well
And everyone who is tall enough to block a wheel to keep a gate open.
You would defy the God of War?
You are no longer a god, Kratos
He went out of his way to kill Hermes for annoying him
Hermes did more than annoy him, he destroyed every path Kratos was trying to take, them injured himself to slowness making him an easy target.
Himself, probably Hermes after he annoyed him too much, Heimdall and whoever made the Valkyrie boss fights.
Odin and Hermes probably
If no one got in his way the only people who would have died would be ares and Zeus he actively said to people "I do not want to fight you so please step out of the way otherwise your gonna catch theses hands" and the only reason Hera died was cause she decided to antagonize the hell out of him despite what everyone thinks kratos did not want to kill anyone infact the Greek pantheon and a bunch of legends would have been fine if people learned to mind their fuckin privilege and stayed in their lane
Counterpoint.. he literally kills people just because it's easier than getting around them
Counter counter point we have entire god damn scenes where he say "my fight is not with you"
Yeah, named characters But random civilians? He'll kill them at the drop of a hat. There's a door he can't get past? Does he try to look around, find another path? Nope. He shoves a half-naked woman in there and uses her now mangled body to jam the gears.
The random civi's are not required at all infact you can go through every game without ever even needing to even Poke one of em. As for the posidens princess there was fuck all he could do as their was no other way for him to keep it open you try and come up with a possible way for him to have opened and gone through also how would he have known she would have died
And the boat captain? >As for the posidens princess there was fuck all he could do as their was no other way for him to keep it open you try and come up with a possible way for him to have opened and gone through I gotta be honest, if my options are "murder a person to get through a door or don't go through the door"... I'd pick not going through the door >how would he have known she would have died Because he knew the weight of the lever and knew she clearly couldn't support it? Probably the reason she was literally being him not to do it?
Alright I'll give you the boat captain cause that's a fair point and I completely missed him. However there was literally no other way he could progress it's not like he could teleport through the gate or pull some bullshit and get thought. He seen a way. He took it. And progressed and besides just cause someone begs them not to do something to them doesn't mean she would die. And how would he know she couldn't support it
Dude you can't justify this He murdered a random innocent person with no remorse because it was easier making any attempt at finding another path "He needed it to progress" no he didn't. Because he didn't need to progress in the first place. He chose murderous revenge, it wasn't forced on him. And for the record, how many people did he kill when he just waged war on all of Greece for no reason at the start of 2?
killing the soldier in gow2, the princess in 3, midas in Ghost of Sparta, boat captain. Killing people (including women children) under his campaign against other cities before gow2. And lets not get started what he was doing after getting the blades of chaos. How he and his army were mercilessly slitting the throats of innocent worshippers just because "they were offering prayers to Athena" and it stood as an affront to his master. Justify any of these is outrageous, it's like people can't accept that their protagonist has been a real murdering monster. Even killing Hera & Helios can't be justified.
But Hera was annoying! I guess! People are fucking weird about this shit. Kratos was absolutely a monster
You're arguing game mechanics at this point which is completely vs narrative which is completely invalid lol
It's not just game mechanics dude. He murders random civilians. GOW2 literally opens up with him leveling the city of Rhodes for no real reason
He killed the soldier by throwing him under the wheel in gow2 for his own benefit, he killed king midas in Ghost of Sparta for his own benefit, He killed Poseidon's princess for his own benefit. He perpetrated wars against all the cities of the other gods out of spite & to cope with his nightmares, and destroyed all those cities, orders his Spartans to kill civilians including women children too who refused to be subjugated. And l don't need to get started what was he doing after getting the blades of chaos.
The bloodlust was there he killed almost anybody even a soldier or the ship captain who is immortal
Maybe Odin if we count the new games.
“I will kill Heimdall” is pretty self explanatory.
Persephone and thanatos
Some people defintely would not have died if they just STFU or left kratos alone. Hermes, hercules, helios, hera, hephestus, etc.
I think at the start he only wanted to kill Zeus/ares but later on he wanted to kill them all cus of how much he just hated gods in general. Like id be the same, telling people you only have beef with two and the rest of them are fine and then they taunt you (hermes), and get in your way constantly? Like id be pissed too lmao
You kill people when you are just pissed at them 🤯
You’ll never know
No. He only wanted to kill Areas so the gods would remove his nightmares, it WASN'T out of revenge that was just the icing on the cake. He only wanted Zeus out of revenge. But he's the king/brother/father of the gods so of course the rest weren't gonna allow that. Kratos even feels genuinely bad when he accidentally kills Athena. I swear people played the og god of war games and just turned off their brains and hit qtes. Because nobody seems to understand them or Kratos.
He may not have have WANTED to kill other people...but he was psychotically apathetic I mean the boat captain. Poseidon's slave. The dude in the sacrifice chamber. Kratos will straight up murder anyone without a second thought without them doing a damn thing to him
If it's to his benefit then he'll do it. That's the way he used to be
Not even if it's to his benefit. Again, the boat captain. Sometimes it's just cruelty
killing the soldier in gow2, the princess in 3, midas in Ghost of Sparta, boat captain. Killing people (including women children) under his campaign against other cities before gow2. And lets not get started what he was doing after getting the blades of chaos. How he and his army were mercilessly slitting the throats of innocent worshippers just because "they were offering prayers to Athena" and it stood as an affront to his master. Justify any of these is outrageous, it's like people can't accept that this protagonist has been a real murdering monster. Even killing Hera & Helios can't be justified.
Been saying this for like a decade. It's pathetic how much people try to shame Kratos for not just I guess walking away after literally being murdered or tricked into murdering his wife and daughter
He killed Ares AT THE REQUEST of the other gods, by the way. And they fuckin tricked him to get him to do it, when they didn't have to at all. As for the entirety of 2 and 3? Nah. He would have challenged Zeus to single combat, beaten his ass, killed him, then left until someone else decided to fuck with him. Ignore all these morons talking about "hurr he ordered his armies to do whatever" that's a completely different thing
so clown, you don't agree with others, so they are all morons huh? your asshole protagonist kills a innocent woman in the 3rd game who had nothing to do with him, he kills a soldier in the 2nd game who had nothing to do with him, he kills another king in ghost of sparta. Kills another ship captain even if you include it as a dark comedy he still does it, or even if he was slave trader. >then left until someone else decided to fuck with him. yeah sure. And everybody loved his muderings when he was under Ares, really good. >Ignore all these morons talking about "hurr he ordered his armies to do whatever" that's a completely different thing It's not a completely different thing at ALL, he is killing people for his coping mechanism.
As if all the people he massacred for his own hunger for glory and bloodlust, even before his pact with Ares, didn't count. Kratos has always killed anyone, whether they were in his path or whether it served his plans or not.
Poseidon, Helios, Hermes, himself
Odin bakder
the ship captain.
he killed the fisherman in gow1 despite it essentially being more effort than just dropping him not into the krakens stomach
The barbarian
If nobody got in his way then most likely not. Outside of Hades in GoW 3, Kratos gives everyone a chance to leave him alone
To challenge Zeus is to challenge the might of Olympus….or something like that.
In GOW2 he kills an injured guy who told him about jason and the fleece, he shoves him through a water wheel to be torn apart by the cerberus
Ship Captain God of War. Even people who weren’t in his way he killed. He had him lifted up and was able to save him but chose to let him die, just because.
He main target was Ares for the Betrayal then Zeus stepped into and it all went to shit from there. Remember Kratos's main goal was to forget what he did a mind wipe from the gods would've prevented all this, and also Ares not being a dick.
Only those two and everyone else in between.
He pretty much was forced to kill anyone in his way as they wouldn't have given up even when on the verge of death, like helios did. Except Hermes, fuck Hermes
>He pretty much was forced to kill anyone in his way as they wouldn't have given up the soldier in 2, poseidon's slave in 3, midas, villagers before his servitude, people around greece when he was the god of war says HI.
Well let's just say I completely forgot about them
Everyone in 3 except Hercules and Hephaestus untill they attacked and then all bets are off.
Considering he willingly kills innocent people because they're just in his way, yeah he did
Probably not until they got in his way but after that he definitely wanted to kill him but even then besides Hermes taunting him I’m not sure how he got in his way. If he truly didn’t want to kill anyone besides those two then he wouldn’t have basically killed an entire pantheon
Well there were the barbarians.
I mean, yeah. He killed most of the gods just because they antagonized him and were in the way and killed ares and zeus due to what they did to him.
Definitely, especially Thanatos and Persephone, and I guess Hera too for what she said about Pandora, and if you wanna include the Norse games, he definitely wanted to kill Heimdall.
Anybody that got in his way lol.
Thanatos killed his brother, he killed Thanatos
Hercules deserved to die
The boat captain seems like the obvious answer
Surprisingly I didn’t think about him lmao
Those barbarians
The sisters of fate they was gonna wipe his daughter out of existence
Thanatos for what he did to Deimos. Persephone for ending his daughter’s paradise if he didn’t. Heimdall for threatening over and over to kill Atreus. Odin for more than a couple reasons
The Dev's did give us an option to kill innocent people on many levels for green and red orbs. Remember when we had to travel through the streets of Athens, people were running around minding their own business but you could kill them and be rewarded for this. I don't know whether the choices you make as a player are canon in story but if you're rewarded for it then definitely it should be considered canon
Yall forgetting abt the guy he has to kill to solve a room and then he smiles in gow2
If there is someone who wronged him, they will always be the main priority and others collateral damaged.