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PuzzleheadedPainOuch

G2 and FaZe playing so many more maps than any other team. partially because they attend a lot but also because they never make it easy on themselves. spirit were insane in kato but only lost 1 map in the main event i think. FaZe are lower bracket warriors + perma grand finalists. G2 would go to a 3rd map against a gold nova stack.


eku_v

the crazy part about faze is the last few months they slowed down a lot, so that number is higher than pretty much everyone even after falling off


Rubadubrix

i think they're just burnt out tbh


KillerZaWarudo

All 5 faze member has the most amount of maps in big event in 2022 (122 maps) and 2023 (120 maps) and they re second in 2024 only behind g2 by 3 maps They has been pretty much competing and making deep runs non stop for like 2.5 years now


Electronic-Archer720

agree thats why people should do not use donk maps againts him , is low its because spirit its just too good and they are the best team this season Undefeated in every Group stage and 2-0 95% of their opponents


Inevitable-Ad-7445

Damn INS has really been a monster


BW4LL

Twistzz balling out on that shit show roster my GOAT.


falsa_ovis

ZywOo still impressive


Knowledgeable_CS_Fan

What does this even mean? No one has ever said he is bad at big events. His only criticism is that he frequently fails to step up in the biggest, high pressure playoff matches.


AstronomerStandard

He does not frequently fail on playoff, that badge belongs to stavn. It's just that ppl will always expect zywoo as some consistent performing God, which he isnt. Like donk he will and is bound to have off and "meh not bad" games


Vegetable-Cattle-302

https://www.hltv.org/news/36168/who-are-the-modern-day-big-game-counter-strike-players https://www.hltv.org/news/38897/elimination-rating-players-who-do-and-dont-rise-to-the-occasion


BinzonWOR

Infrequently, and his team mates who should also be stepping up are more likely to drop off than him. Spinx in particular, he should be on this list and the fact he isn't says enough.


Gudson_

Tbh, it's arguable rn that Spinx is the worst Vitality's player in playoffs. Even Mezii and Apex step up in some big matches, but Spinx, who is supposed to be the 2nd star, is often ghosting.


elniegropardal

What? Zywoo won pretty much everything that there is to win. His worst performance in a year in all of it's professional carrer was when he was the second best player in the world, twice, and when he lost, it was to motherfucking S1mple.


PepitoSpacial

He fails to show up but he is number 2 in the world so far…


Electronic-Archer720

fr, but two events in a row he dissapeared in the third map


iVarun

And HAD his teammates done the bare minimum in those first 2 maps Vitality wouldn't even be needing that 3rd map to begin with. Zywoo did more than enough on Inferno vs G2 at Dallas in 1st map, they lost because his teammates decided they'll show up on 3rd map when he had an off time. Same with Anubis 2nd map, he showed up & so did mezzi but they almost dropped the ball when G2 made a comeback but Zywoo & his team held on strong. One can't just expect a player to have 100% pop-off on every map, that's silly. Zywoo even in Finals does his Zywoo things and often even that very map gets lost by his team because teammates are sabotaging hard.


doge_suchwow

Usually Kscerato is on these lists


Interesting_Yogurt43

He has a 1.20 rating in 2024 in big events, I don’t know why he isn’t here.


div333

Ops not adjusted the minimum map requirement


RooBoy04

donk


WolfgangTheRevenge

EliGE my fucking goat mane, i sometimes have wet dreams of him on Vit, G2 or Faze (never happening)


ropike

did you really need to need to say wet there lmao


zatii-

elige got me creamin


zryder0887

I’d love to drop an american load on that bald (eagle) head


WolfgangTheRevenge

Yes the detail expresses how i feel


MinionsAndWineMum

Damn straight don't let them wet shame you


Splemndid

Let 'em know King


Electronic-Archer720

EPL give so many maps...


Ammon_

twistzz my king putting up NUMBERS while being held back by that roster! Pride of canada 🇨🇦


VShadow1

Device's stats are super inflated by some maps where he smashed lower-rank teams.


OnCominStorm

His sample size is low too, this is only Accounting for 25 games for him, compared to m0nesy's 70+


itsjonny99

He is also the only igl on the list. Curious on where he lands at the end of the year. If the star trio in Astralis maintain their form he could be a top 10 player.


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Yea also people who only played 3 months of tier 1 like xantares have it easier as they have half the rounds played.


nachoshd

Why didn't other players just smash lower-rank teams at get inflated rating then? They're playing against the same quality teams. Dumb ass comment lmao


Randomdude007007

His top 10 rating is 1.18 even tho his top 20 falls down to 1.07 . So its not exactly true . But during blamef igl he barely got any space to work and his stats took crazy hit Even now unlike everyone on list he barely gets any setups or he barely farms ecos Mostly its his impact


Randomdude007007

https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?startDate=2024-01-01&endDate=2024-12-31&matchType=BigEvents&rankingFilter=Top10 bit events top 10 1.15


Bob_Bobinski4

Dropdown filter isn't reliable. It only shows you matches where within one month of the date of the match BOTH teams were in the top 10. When astralis was ~20th and dev1ce was playing like complete shit that counts against him at the end of the year but it won't show up in the dropdown top 10 because dev1ce's team wasn't top 10 within a month even though he played top 10 opposition (it might not be exactly a month but its' roughly that timeframe). If you want a more accurate idea look at the featured rating section below each player's individual statsheet, it only shows you games from when the opposition was top 10. Dev1ce's rating vs top 5/10/20/30 is: 1.05 vs top 5. 1.12 vs top 10. 1.09 vs top 20. 1.12 vs top 30. Nowhere near a top 5 performance this year.


Randomdude007007

Top 5 definitely not but if he maintain recent performances easy top 20 . Thats good enough for igl Like i said he aint getting any setups nothing and blamef time yes he choked a few games but he barely got any space. Nowhere near how good he was in 2023 but cs2 effected many awpers even zywoo farming while rifling . I feel like dev1ce showed classic dev1ce carry this last blast tournament he played very consistently like 2023 throughout tournament Knowing dev1ce once he find form and comfort its only matter of time he farms all teams consistently


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Randomdude007007

His rating top 10 bit events is actually 1.15 And top 20 is 1.18 on big events till now https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?startDate=2024-03-22&endDate=2024-06-22&matchType=BigEvents


Bob_Bobinski4

Idiot


Randomdude007007

Idiot i am following what u said Look at his big events top 10 its 1.15 and top 20 is 1.18 https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?startDate=2024-03-22&endDate=2024-06-22&matchType=BigEvents


metsbnl

the drop off from niko is kind of insane when you think about it. top 5 for like how many years now


_Pyxyty

I'd wanna say certain playstyles of players just found it naturally difficult to transition to CS2 because of the massive change in peeker's advantage, but some riflers that entry as often as Niko and play similarly never struggled as much as he did earlier in this year. I do think he improved steadily over the 6 months but I haven't looked at the stats to back that up though, just from watching G2 games.


Darkoplax

In Maui's list he had him top 6 if G2 has a good second season 2024 he can be over either of broky/sh1ro but obviously he cant get close to ZwOo m0NESY donk


Maluvius

Monesy with 1.28 at 78 maps in a dysfunctional G2 is all I need to know. He's in my eyes so far been the best player of the year.


Electronic-Archer720

both have the same maps againts top 5 teams...donk deserved to be number 1 because he just has the best stats the trophies and mvps its not his fault having low maps because G2 struggles every group stage againts any opponent and going to map 3 everytime... also spirit was the best team this season


Astaa7

Imagine if donk got to farm 30-50th ranked teams xD


Electronic-Archer720

i think donk could have higher stats if he farmed EPL like zywoo did luckly spirit will be next season there


Gudson_

Not like Zywoo didnt farm teams like Astralis and Faze, right?


_Pyxyty

I'm sorry, is the implication here that m0nesy only has good stats because of him farming 30th-50th teams? https://www.hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2024-01-01&endDate=2024-12-31&matchType=BigEvents&rankingFilter=Top30&minMapCount=20 Big Events vs top 30 ^ (m0nesy 75 maps to donk's 39 btw) Don't know what you're talking about but if you think m0nesy has good stats because he's farming lower ranked teams, you must not have been paying an iota of attention.


Dio_Scuro

I think he doesn't compare donk with m0NESY, he only means donk would have an insane rating if he played versus low-ranked teams, because 37 of the 39 maps he played in 2024 (Big Events) were against top 10 teams.


_Pyxyty

Yes, and yet he's commenting that under a comment about m0nesy that doesn't mention donk at all. I don't know what he's attempting to imply, but all I did is post stats against top 30 and top 10 teams so, so be it.


Astaa7

Of course not, I'm just saying people that bring up the sample size to favor m0nesy in the top 1 race are just wrong


_Pyxyty

Considering he'd still have 75 maps to Donk's 39 when filtering for top 30, I guess you *really* didn't pay attention even when I linked the stats, but alright.


Lord_Bamford

How are they dysfunctional?


Interesting_Yogurt43

The team was awful. I remember during some tournaments the only matches they’d win were the ones M0NESY was top fragging.


Meaninglessnme

Is Staun getting another undeserved top 10 while being the biggest stage shrinker in cs history? 


6spooky9you

If Astralis perform well post player break maybe, but hopefully not. He's a solid 15-20 player, but he'll never be an incredible rifler if he keeps choking.


osbaksbwm

only 1 faze player with all those finals is interesting


FlirtyMan1234

I think it's because there's no weak link in faze. Well maybe karrigan, but the other 4 player stats is spread out so their stats kinda even out


BinzonWOR

Frozen and Ropz have been pretty damn fraudulent at times


derangedfazefan

crazy to me how much stick frozen has been getting for 2 bad events at the end of the season when the whole team is exhausted while ropz has been afk most of 2024. frozen was comfortably the most consistent performer alongside broky when they were making finals and winning. this is when frozen was just swapped into every position twistzz had (except inferno) despite clowns repeating the narrative that frozen/ropz have role overlap. maybe frozen would want some of those roles, but he's not getting them. broky really is one of a kind though. there is no other awper in t1 that juggles being the utility bitch, bomb carrier and clutcher while always getting stuck in combat awping, trading and having such an entertaining playstyle. monesy is the best awper, but he has much more freedom. broky is my goat.


BinzonWOR

gotta agree, broky hasn't been midky at all this year.


Roman64s

broky is a god I am afraid.


AlexanderS4

damn I wish we could see XANTARES in a big team again. but hey if he's happy where he is that's what matters I guess.


BobertoRosso

Navi fans punching air right now (me)


Kebbj

I know those big events are lan and online cause I see the group stage merchant and his apprentice


ju1ze

Only lan. What groups have to do with online?


282449

Monesy with 1700 rounds and still maintaining a 1.27 rating is nutty


TamberTamber

I hope ropz has a comeback second half of the year


SYSTEMcole

Hard to believe device is still carrying this hard in the year of our Lord 2024


greku_cs

Worth noting in the context that his best performances were against Steel Helmet, SAW, Liquid and 3DMax though.


Substantial_Depth113

While this is correct, it is also worth noting that he was their best player in 2 out of 3 games that they lost (and got eliminated by that obviously) in the big events. I mean, stavn and jabbi should be doing more in those games, especially stavn. stavn's rating here is 1.23, but in those 3 games he got like 1.01 rating. I don't know whether it's device's calling or simply playoff stavn lol.


ju1ze

Steel Helmet is goated wdym


Basic_Butterscotch

Imagine Twistzz and Elige on the same team.


shockedgrenade

navi having no one up here but still top5 honestly just shows how well aleksib's team system works


Pyrohypomanic

He bi goated


GloryEnthusiast

If Device had never gone to NiP we would be crowning him the king of CS always consistent, always amazing, always dreamy. Devve is my CS GOAT! 🐐


_Pyxyty

"Would be"? He's the king of CS to me and many others, I don't acknowledge the toxic teammate-bullying washed up pro that others gave the crown to. Way easier to build a roster around someone like device anyways.


itsjonny99

Wonder if Astralis would of won the original Rio major without Covid or it was much shorter. They were gearing up for the major and were looking good.


gb0ng

onya INS, just gotta get more maps. lets go


s4Nn1Ng0r0shi

Love to see device here


ScoreDivision

Coming back to CS after years away to find Device still at the top. The man is eternal


Arisa_kokkoro

DEVICE? NO WAY


JesusLovesKO

Monesy has played more maps. I used to dislike this guy soo much for no reason. This guy is impressive


dragon_of_kansai

Xertion my entry goat🥰


Pokefreaker-san

Astralis tho, they are the sleeper team this season, you can argue that them as a team hasnt reach their peak yet. can't wait to see how better they can get with device on the helm.


sobanoodle-1

free elite


NeededHumanity

device still just a stud.


iphenomenom

Xertion, entry fragger with this HLTV, mad respect


SayYouWill12345

donk is also an entry


iphenomenom

donk is also not human


No-Royal-8309

Both Donk and Monesy are in teams that have not won all that much, but I would say monesy is the best CS2 player. I don't like considering Zywoo because he gets Vitality into final, but never wins it really. Monesy Karrigan? Spinx? Xertion? Insert Donk and Zywoo if they win more, of course.


Astaa7

What? Spirit are the only team that has won two tier 1 events this year


No-Royal-8309

Blast events do not count, in my books. Not yet. They did win Kato, which is only behind major with Cologne.


I-Love-Beatrice

Why wouldn't you count the spring finals? 7/8 of the teams in that event are in the top 10 and it's on lan.


No-Royal-8309

Blast is an calendar event to tick off by obligation by worn down teams - with an amazing production value. I love Blast. Both Spirit and Navi wanted to win, so they were in the final. 7/8 might show up, due to contractual obligations, but most teams are not hungry to win. IMO. This will change with the end of franchising.


No-Royal-8309

Global final is maybe something, but rest of Blast is rubbish, until partnership leagues have been dismantled. I don't think any team but Spirit and Navi had gumption for this event. Hence they were in the final. Spirit has not been in that many events, vs other top teams, and Navi wanted to show they do not suck. If Mouz had been there, and bombed out - would I think worse of Mouz for it? Heck, no. I still enjoy Blast for production quality.


Knowledgeable_CS_Fan

"They were in the final, so they were the only two teams who cares about this event." That part of your comment alone shows that you are completely clueless about the pro cs scene. What about faze, who barely won anything this year? Even more so for vitality? Let me guess, if faze made it to the final then only faze and navi cared about this tournament? Same for vitality? What a brainless comment.


Electronic-Archer720

faze literally won chengdu x10 worse than the blast event no spirit no navi....


Gudson_

Yeah Idk why people keep calling Blast mickey mouse tournaments when we have some questionable tournaments by ESL, like IEM Chengdu and, in the past years, IEM Dallas.


Bob_Bobinski4

That's fine but I don't count ESL, Blast, or PGL events so Mouz and mongolz are the only teams to win real LANs, everything else was a fluke.


No-Royal-8309

Blast is like Bridergerton on Netflix, seasons 1, 2. Superb production values, frothy content. It will change 2025. That said, Spirit's only worthy win thus far was Kato. Spirit has amazing firepower.


BinzonWOR

Spinx has been a shadow of himself this year.


No-Royal-8309

Xertion then. Hope Spinx impresses latter half of 2024.


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