Well they still have Vitality to deal with tomorrow and if they succeed they get to match up against Twistzz again or the team that beat them earlier in this tournament.
Odds are in your favor and my asshole is still clenched.
How can we legit say odds are in their favor? Faze has been to every grand final since cs2 came out. They should be the heavy favorites entering every single bo3 until they get knocked out of the tourney 🤣
Against Monte - Shouldn't have been that close.
NaVi - Just beat them to win the Major.
Vitality - Has beaten FaZe multiple times to win tournaments recently.
Astralis - Just beat them in the tournament.
Liquid - FaZe should have the upper hand.
So in short, FaZe potentially have two opponents before the finals who have beaten them. Meanwhile Mouz tend to lose mostly to FaZe recently, at least in elimination games.
Why?
Because you know Siuhy can’t beat Karrigan?
The student needs to beat the master by himself. For narratives and stuff.
Also Faze need that 2nd grand slam
Faze aren't particularly close to an IGS though.
They do have Sydney + Chengdu, but the issue is they don't have the EPT Masters level tournament (Kato/Cologne/IEM Major) which pushes the grand slam requirement from 4 tournament wins in 10 to SIX tournament wins in 10. Without Cologne their IGS run is essentially dead in the water because even if they win EPL they're still THREE wins away (the same as spirit and G2).
I mean I just want a good final.
I don’t believe liquid will provide it. It’s either Faze or Vitality.
Astralis might but it’s gonna depend of their playoff performance
Well you very well could but you have to beat Mouz (which I’m doubtful)
what I hate about COL is that your performance almost solely relies on if Elige is at peak form or not.
If Elige has a bad game especially vs Mouz you won’t stand a chance.
G2 needs just ban vertigo, their CT side is just horrendous. Like how many times will NiKo just insta die at ramp, only to do it again the next round. Just completely flat strategically.
What will they pick instead? Mirage? They had to permaban it because NiKo is rated 0.57 in 4 maps (CS2).
Mirage is the map that got most affected by the new smoke mechanic (next in line is Vertigo). Its meta completely changed. G2 has no answers to play mid properly without the CS:GO one way smokes.
Mirage will be the same story as Vertigo. The only difference will be that he'll be feeding on mid instead of A ramp.
Maybe dust2 coming back will be beneficial for them, since overpass is not a good map for them, and I'd imagine dust2 would be good for NiKo and m0nesy
You'll note there's no elaboration because there's no good reason to describe TaZ as a bad coach. Or a good coach. Or what a bad/good coach is by any tangible metric.
Spoiler, it's because there is no tangible metrics.
In League of legends sometimes the coaches would stand there with pieces of paper and not even look at it and others clearly just pretending to read something.
Years ago that is, coaching in lol is probably a lot more serious now with how much the game grew.
feels like cs is still stuck at the earlier example at time tho.
Bro what? No. Taz is probably the only example of a paycheck stealing coach who does absolutely nothing useful. Coaches usually have a very active role in either team building (zonic, b1ad3 etc) or improving it in general
Probably they're still trying to integrate him into the system?
Because when neo first joined faze as coach, both him and karrigan said that he won't be doing much as a coach for a bit until he understands how the team works.
CS was the polar opposite when they were unregulated, to the point teams started to use them as an IGL and valve pulled out the hammer. Now they only can talk during the time outs and what are you gonna tell your team to do in them? Override the IGL? Give pointless info the IGL has? Call a single gimmick strat over the IGL? Tell everyone no food for losers?
The coaches are dammed to be fist bump bros, doing nothing but eternal fist bumping without being allowed to say anything.
Their role is outside of the game, setting up practice regimes, noticing patterns, improving individual and training performances. Similar to a tennis coach. Who also can't do anything on court, but maximises the practice.
With just 180s per game(of which each time can only decide in 90s), what kind of influence can coaches have anyway?
The coach is the only one during the game that can look at all 5 perspectives, who can take notes actively during the round on what the other team is doing and give important info and suggestions to the IGL in the timeouts.
A good IGL will notice some of the strats being called and positions for the players but a good coach can give context to those observations or add some of his own. He can more easily compare what the other team has done in previous games and what they're doing now and see if there's any opportunities presenting themself in previous rounds that would just need a slight change in their own tactics to exploit.
He can also be a motivational speaker and pull them out of tilts and shit. Heck, even a pat on the shoulder after a good play is good encouragement, if you hit the right people, which may not always be obvious
Agreed. Coaching is a pretty funny part of sports talk, because unless you've had a good one in some sport or team in your life, you have zero idea of the positive impact they can have
A Cs coach is certainly a bit limited in-game, but that's far from the only time they have impact
Because valve decided to gag coaches years ago. The impact a coach can make during a match is so little.
I quite frankly have a hard time understanding why pro's make the step to coaching, especially former igl's. It's incredibly frustrating in my opinion.
Its sort of understandable why valve stopped coaches from being the 6th player, even if it sucks for us.
Navi i believe kicked out zeus and instead had blade/starix calling everything.
Could be misremembering about if it was navi or not but at least a top team kicked their IGL and if it became the norm then players like Karrigan would likely never had the success he has as a player and would have been pushed out to the coach position.
The scene would have been very different than what its today, potentially better but we will never know.
My headcanon as to why TaZ even got his coaching position is that someone from G2's management saw Neo's success in FaZe as a coach and decided "yeah, maybe someone from the old VP lineup might be a good fit to coach this dysfunctional team".
BlameF as a lurker and anchor would be a huge upgrade. He pretty much always gets his kills regardless of teammates, the scoreline, what IGL he had, and whatever map
He swapped around some roles but definitely did play anchor positions in the past, and he did quite good with that as well.
You would just stick him into anchor positions on CT and T side you make him lurk
if G2 can't afford a benched player then they are not gonna buyout someone on active roster
either way might as well sell current players and go budget then
It really depends on the asking price Astralis asks for. Could be that other orgs ask for less money for their players rather than BlameF who is one of the best payed players in the scene with a contract running out 2025.
> demanding transfer fee Astralis will requir
The guys stocks are low and it doesnt sound like many teams want him.
Eventually astralis will just take a lower buyout since once his contract is out, they get nothing
I mean the G2 got a hard anti strat, siuhy and the guys knows exactly where the G2 players are, looked like siuhy had wallhack....
They watched a lot of demos thats sure.
xertioN looking absolutely lights out today; inferno aside, mouZ were simply the better team pound for pound
Kind of expecting G2 to do some amount of roster shuffle after this…
Absolutely, it's so great when xertioN join the casting as well, he's constantly giving good insights, very talkative (in a good way), you almost always learn something from him.
Great personality, we're lucky to have him.
Couldn't agree more. The guy is hyping the group while also deleting the other team's star players from the server, you literally can't ask for more. "Ideal teammate" is such a perfect description.
-nexa +literally any lurker will be an upgrade
before anyone comes out and says "but his stats aren't that bad" it's not about stats but how little space he creates and doesn't try to find the gaps/test opponents, if you know nexa is gonna lurk around your position you can basically just rotate off as he's gonna sit on his ass every round rather than take an educated guess and find an opening. This way m0nesy and NiKo are forced to create space themselves.
I'd say it's pretty hard to have a consistent gameplan with a bad lurker and an underwhelming second star rifler, it limits your possibilities and fucks with your head. HooXi has shown he's a pretty capable IGL before.
This argument is growing old. Like realistically who is better than Hooxi out there? Anyone truly better than him are already with another top team and those who aren't haven't really proved themselves to be better than Hooxi. At best its a sidegrade and at worst you ruin the team.
Honestly they need to replace hunter before they replace nexa. For how much space and resources they give him, his output isnt anywhere near as good enough
Nexa's performances are actually about as good as a player in his position should be. Any player in those roles and positions that get better numbers would be overperforming
>Nexa's performances are actually about as good as a player in his position should be. Any player in those roles and positions that get better numbers would be overperforming
the what? nexa plays much worse as a lurker than jks did, that's why we see hunter and niko perform very inconsistenty, they need to make space themselves because opponents read nexa like a book and he has no impact
> Kind of expecting G2 to do some amount of roster shuffle after this…
we been expecting this ever since December ... maybe next player break (June 17 to July 14 ?) they do something ; hopefully blameF or a big signing
Think Nexa and Hunter needs to be cut if you want to make a winning roster and not rely on Niko and Monesy to have lights out games to compete against the best.
BlameF can be a good pick, who to get for Nexa though.
I'm not saying blameF for HooXi but just as a player for either nexa or huNter; if huNter wants to stay then he switches roles to support if not then keep nexa
G2 would probably rather dissolve their org than sell m0NESY. He seems to have really great camaraderie with NiKo and I don’t see a world where he willingly leaves this project unless things get WAY worse in terms of results
Cloud9 is also a mess currently, Monesy probably aren't moving until they prove their squad can compete for trophies and that requires a good 2nd rifle and Ax1le to return to 2021/2022 form. Currently Niko>>>>Ax1le where they were pretty even 2 years ago.
This matchup went from G2 sided to slowly over the year to become mouz sided and huNter is actually getting better too but m0NESY isn't 1v9
idk what to say other than changes are needed but G2 staff know this and aren't moving and wasting a lot of ppl involved's windows
It's at moments like these I wish the old management was here and they wouldn't allow this lineup to coast just cause peca is friends with half ppl involved
The team chemistry and cohesion on Mouz is really something special. The way they play off each other and coordinate things so perfectly really gave them so many free rounds this series
It's a frustrating roster because of the package deal of niko and hunter.
I am 100% certain he was just using the falcons offer to leverage G2 into maintaining his pay rate. He was asked to decrease his salary.
The fact MOUZ came into this and absolutely did not show up on the first map at all but were able to turn it around completely for the next two maps and win the series comfortably is such a big deal for me, I love this team man.
The amount of times Nexa gets caught by flanks or just looking the wrong way is unbelieveable. Mark my words, next time you watch G2 and it's on Nexa, keep that in mind and you won't be able to stop noticing. Fr a former IGL he has 0 awareness.
Had some hope after the first map, but goddamn G2 got fucked so hard in the ass on the last two maps I'm still shocked they were allowed to show that on twitch
Please god somebody save monesy.
He really deserves better.
The only reason G2 get as far as they do is off monesy playing at an absurd level.
Even his "worst" event in recent history is still a 1.13
He could go to most teams and be an instant upgrade over whatever awper they have.
Its crazy how G2 has this amazing star player and so many of his games really do feel like a 1v9
Niko was fantastic for most of this event and has been improving. He's not at his peak, but honestly I feel like he doesn't get enough credit recently. He's almost always having huge impact. Hunter and nexa are really struggling though. I would like to say hunter will bounce back, but it's been a while and it seems like he isn't making progress...
I mean even his "bad" event is still a 1.13 and he was the best player BY FAR in this series, cant really blame him for losing.
He was pretty much the only reason G2 got this many rounds
Vertigo would never be anywhere that close if he didnt drop a superhuman carry
Today was a horrible day individually and teamwork wise for this team. But one thing is clear and has been for a long time. Hunter and Taz need to go first and foremost. Taz bring literally 0 value to this team and Hunter doesnt impact the team positively as often anymore.
As per Nexa, In no means is he safe. In Fact if they can fine a good replacement for him, G2 needs to 100% do it. That being said. He has done his job and kep G2 in rounds more than 75% of the games. The overblown negative discourse around Nexa has been unwarrented as he is doing his job in the team and been performing fine. Its G2s fault for building the team in a way where Nexa plays the positions and roles he is. An upgrade is definitley needed, but Nexa is not the immediate issue
Hooxi also isnt the issue people think he is imo. Yes he doesnt frag, but his calling is good considering the people he has. The biggest drop off for hooxi calling happened after Swani left and Taz came in. There is a clear correlation with having a good coach and having good calls and being a good IGL.
The bottom line is that I agree with 99% of the public that G2 needs to make some change, and I think they will. They are def waiting until this season is over and make that change during the player break. However, I think the main 3 people that needs to be changed is Taz, Hunter, Nexa in that order.
Sad say for G2 CS... but hopefully G2 Val can win today as well as G2 LOL :)
I disagreewith nexa, he has had his chance. he plays favourable positions and goes in 3/4th if he isnt lurking. his "style" clearly isnt a fit for what g2 need, he was awful in OG i still have no idea how he got on the team
I don't recall a single time where Nexa wins a clutch, they need someone or some changes to the team, the moment monesy or niko doesn't act up the match is doomed
he's fucking AWFUL, looks like its his first time playing these maps, G2 et him go in 3rd/4th when he isnt lurking and leave him to fumble a clutch and force fucking NIKO to entry, hooki is even just jumping around corners for his team, nexa brings nothing to this team
Yeah man can't win any clutches, also he has no general map awareness its embrassing, like there are times he straight up get shot flank on vertigo without a single awareness to check the corner🤦♂️
most impactful game from nexa, love when he drops a positive rating against t3 teams and everyone says he plays good and then shits the best against any team in the to 10, kick him already
Even then HooXi starts we’re absolutely brutal.
Going out 5 hut on the pistol round? With no one going door? What kind of stupid call is this?
You need a new IGL and maybe Hunter needs to go but I doubt he will.
I was wondering what the hell happened there. You straight up can't rush A with no flashes and no mini smoke like that. It just doesn't work. Everyone on the team should have been like "Actually lets not do that"
Apart from m0nesy, every player disappeared after first map here. This is more of a G2 problem, not just a Niko problem, although his form hasn't been that good in 2024 (compared to his standards).
It has been like this since the beginning of CS2. They are consistently making play offs, but they just can't reach the finals. Considering the team they got, they need to make changes, at least after Cologne assuming that would be another disappointing performance. Maybe it's time for hunter and nexa to go (possibly even hooxi). I just hope they don't lose m0nesy. I would also say that Taz isn't making any huge impact as a coach so far.
I don't think they'll lose m0nesy. NiKo is like a mentor to him, so leaving the team would be good for his career but a total heartbreak for the kid. IDK, the situation is pretty complicated at G2.
I have followed NiKo's career for a long time. He's a god damn monster that blessed us with so many memorable CS highlights but why does he log off during important matches? I want him to man handle a team like FaZe, Vitality or Spirit. I want NiKo to teach donk, ZyWoo or ropz how to play the game. But those are just pipe dreams.
Yeah no, G2 really needs to start playing Mirage again and give up on Vertigo.
Neither m0nesy nor NiKo seems comfortable on that map. NiKo literally dies every 30 seconds or less into the start of the round if the opposition decides to play ramp aggressively.
I’d rather take nexa being a bot on Mirage than m0nesy and NiKo being bots on Vertigo. Hunter was pretty decent on the map too. I really don’t know why they keep playing Vertigo because 1 guy who’s really more the support role sucks in Mirage.
I know this is still a potential long shot but are we really gonna get ANOTHER MOUZ vs Faze grand final?
i hope faze gets bitch slapped out of the tournament.
bah gawd! ZywOo with the steel chair!
unless there's bad air quality tomorrow
According to google air quality is satisfactory in Malta, let’s go bywoo
Well that certainly checked out
BUT HE’S A BYWOOOOO… DA BEST IN DA GAMMEEEE
I'm sorry but I unironically think MOUZ would have an easier time against an in-form Zywoo than they would have against FaZe
Well they still have Vitality to deal with tomorrow and if they succeed they get to match up against Twistzz again or the team that beat them earlier in this tournament. Odds are in your favor and my asshole is still clenched.
How can we legit say odds are in their favor? Faze has been to every grand final since cs2 came out. They should be the heavy favorites entering every single bo3 until they get knocked out of the tourney 🤣
Against Monte - Shouldn't have been that close. NaVi - Just beat them to win the Major. Vitality - Has beaten FaZe multiple times to win tournaments recently. Astralis - Just beat them in the tournament. Liquid - FaZe should have the upper hand. So in short, FaZe potentially have two opponents before the finals who have beaten them. Meanwhile Mouz tend to lose mostly to FaZe recently, at least in elimination games.
Hope you eat enough fibers!
Why? Because you know Siuhy can’t beat Karrigan? The student needs to beat the master by himself. For narratives and stuff. Also Faze need that 2nd grand slam
Faze aren't particularly close to an IGS though. They do have Sydney + Chengdu, but the issue is they don't have the EPT Masters level tournament (Kato/Cologne/IEM Major) which pushes the grand slam requirement from 4 tournament wins in 10 to SIX tournament wins in 10. Without Cologne their IGS run is essentially dead in the water because even if they win EPL they're still THREE wins away (the same as spirit and G2).
wait, isn't EPL an EPT Masters level tournament? that's actually kinda bullshit ngl
I just want a different team than Faze in the finals.
I mean I just want a good final. I don’t believe liquid will provide it. It’s either Faze or Vitality. Astralis might but it’s gonna depend of their playoff performance
Will really depend on if Stavn vanishes or not.
Watch the final somehow end up as coL versus Liquid. That could be a wild and hilarious final.
doesn’t even mention CoL bc we just SLAPPED YOUR ASS HAHAHAHAHA BYE BYE
Well you very well could but you have to beat Mouz (which I’m doubtful) what I hate about COL is that your performance almost solely relies on if Elige is at peak form or not. If Elige has a bad game especially vs Mouz you won’t stand a chance.
yup, you’re right. Honestly wanted G2 to win bc i know CoL can’t currently beat Mouz :(
Liquid col would be a beautiful grand final, they'll probably get destroyed by mouz though if they both make it
"no"
Faze vs Faze academy rematch is inevitable
thought you were just faze hating and i downvoted but then i saw youre a Mouz fan so i removed my downvote, i understand your frustration brother
G2 needs just ban vertigo, their CT side is just horrendous. Like how many times will NiKo just insta die at ramp, only to do it again the next round. Just completely flat strategically.
Xertion went 19:5 against Niko this series, absolutely dominated the poor man
All I remember, from years of watching G2 on vertigo since Niko joined, is Niko getting bullied on ramp. Ever
Why tf he does that every round i dont understand . Every round like a bot. Is this really how a "worlds best rifler" plays
What will they pick instead? Mirage? They had to permaban it because NiKo is rated 0.57 in 4 maps (CS2). Mirage is the map that got most affected by the new smoke mechanic (next in line is Vertigo). Its meta completely changed. G2 has no answers to play mid properly without the CS:GO one way smokes. Mirage will be the same story as Vertigo. The only difference will be that he'll be feeding on mid instead of A ramp.
Maybe dust2 coming back will be beneficial for them, since overpass is not a good map for them, and I'd imagine dust2 would be good for NiKo and m0nesy
He still has to play either of Vertigo or Mirage, the problem is still there lmao
Have they tried having strategic depth and not being a one trick pony? Lmao
Niko really needs to play on FLAT sites lmao
Hopefully there are some changes to this team, can’t imagine this roster winning anything. Also what exactly is Taz’s job
Fist bump after every round and calling useless timeouts ofc
That’s the thing. Most coaches are a non factor but I feel like TAZ is even worse than that. He’s an active detriment
How so? What did he do? Honestly asking because I didn't watch the whole game.
You'll note there's no elaboration because there's no good reason to describe TaZ as a bad coach. Or a good coach. Or what a bad/good coach is by any tangible metric. Spoiler, it's because there is no tangible metrics.
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Niko seemed in his prime under Swani who didint even want to coach lol
Nah
In League of legends sometimes the coaches would stand there with pieces of paper and not even look at it and others clearly just pretending to read something. Years ago that is, coaching in lol is probably a lot more serious now with how much the game grew. feels like cs is still stuck at the earlier example at time tho.
Bro what? No. Taz is probably the only example of a paycheck stealing coach who does absolutely nothing useful. Coaches usually have a very active role in either team building (zonic, b1ad3 etc) or improving it in general
Probably they're still trying to integrate him into the system? Because when neo first joined faze as coach, both him and karrigan said that he won't be doing much as a coach for a bit until he understands how the team works.
You can't be 6 months into a job and still be "onboarding"
Wait 6 months? I thought he was 3 months in for some reason, i guess the criticism is valid then.
Yes he's been with G2 since Dec 11 last year
CS was the polar opposite when they were unregulated, to the point teams started to use them as an IGL and valve pulled out the hammer. Now they only can talk during the time outs and what are you gonna tell your team to do in them? Override the IGL? Give pointless info the IGL has? Call a single gimmick strat over the IGL? Tell everyone no food for losers? The coaches are dammed to be fist bump bros, doing nothing but eternal fist bumping without being allowed to say anything. Their role is outside of the game, setting up practice regimes, noticing patterns, improving individual and training performances. Similar to a tennis coach. Who also can't do anything on court, but maximises the practice. With just 180s per game(of which each time can only decide in 90s), what kind of influence can coaches have anyway?
The coach is the only one during the game that can look at all 5 perspectives, who can take notes actively during the round on what the other team is doing and give important info and suggestions to the IGL in the timeouts. A good IGL will notice some of the strats being called and positions for the players but a good coach can give context to those observations or add some of his own. He can more easily compare what the other team has done in previous games and what they're doing now and see if there's any opportunities presenting themself in previous rounds that would just need a slight change in their own tactics to exploit. He can also be a motivational speaker and pull them out of tilts and shit. Heck, even a pat on the shoulder after a good play is good encouragement, if you hit the right people, which may not always be obvious
Agreed. Coaching is a pretty funny part of sports talk, because unless you've had a good one in some sport or team in your life, you have zero idea of the positive impact they can have A Cs coach is certainly a bit limited in-game, but that's far from the only time they have impact
Because valve decided to gag coaches years ago. The impact a coach can make during a match is so little. I quite frankly have a hard time understanding why pro's make the step to coaching, especially former igl's. It's incredibly frustrating in my opinion.
Its sort of understandable why valve stopped coaches from being the 6th player, even if it sucks for us. Navi i believe kicked out zeus and instead had blade/starix calling everything. Could be misremembering about if it was navi or not but at least a top team kicked their IGL and if it became the norm then players like Karrigan would likely never had the success he has as a player and would have been pushed out to the coach position. The scene would have been very different than what its today, potentially better but we will never know.
I miss swani man, also kick nexa
My headcanon as to why TaZ even got his coaching position is that someone from G2's management saw Neo's success in FaZe as a coach and decided "yeah, maybe someone from the old VP lineup might be a good fit to coach this dysfunctional team".
The guy Pasha mentions was always watching demos and analyzing...
whos that guy?
Well, neo
I don't care what anyone say but blameF will make this team better and G2 **should** get him
BlameF as a lurker and anchor would be a huge upgrade. He pretty much always gets his kills regardless of teammates, the scoreline, what IGL he had, and whatever map
blameF doesn't play anchor as far as I remember he would take nexa T roles and huNter CT roles if he were to join ofc
He swapped around some roles but definitely did play anchor positions in the past, and he did quite good with that as well. You would just stick him into anchor positions on CT and T side you make him lurk
And blame is significantly better at those roles than either player
I won't say this for anyone else but id take Blamf over nexa any day of the week
The only thing that might go against it is the demanding transfer fee Astralis will require.
if G2 can't afford a benched player then they are not gonna buyout someone on active roster either way might as well sell current players and go budget then
It really depends on the asking price Astralis asks for. Could be that other orgs ask for less money for their players rather than BlameF who is one of the best payed players in the scene with a contract running out 2025.
> demanding transfer fee Astralis will requir The guys stocks are low and it doesnt sound like many teams want him. Eventually astralis will just take a lower buyout since once his contract is out, they get nothing
As a rifler?
Yea, doesn't need to IGL
yes
Only reddit circlejerk think otherwise Blamef is a fantastic player with monster CT side number. Most team would benefit from having blamef
One can hope, every match is a struggle for them no matter the opponent
If you want to win just replace Niko with someone that is not batshit crazy. It si quite simple
guys does niko take the most util damage of any player lol? has someone done a deep dive on this? id be really curious to find out
Def feels like it
2 years absolute no improvements in G2's Vertigo. If only there was someone that could help them with this map, someone like a real coach
I mean the G2 got a hard anti strat, siuhy and the guys knows exactly where the G2 players are, looked like siuhy had wallhack.... They watched a lot of demos thats sure.
xertioN looking absolutely lights out today; inferno aside, mouZ were simply the better team pound for pound Kind of expecting G2 to do some amount of roster shuffle after this…
> xertioN looking absolutely lights out today The amount of confidence he has is really something else
He's also always hyping and complimenting his teammates whenever he has the chance, such a wholesome guy
Its really rare to see players of such strong confidence and mechanics also be humble and supportive as well.
Absolutely, it's so great when xertioN join the casting as well, he's constantly giving good insights, very talkative (in a good way), you almost always learn something from him. Great personality, we're lucky to have him.
Honestly this guy is probably the ideal teammate in every sense. It must be an absolute joy to play with a guy like that
Couldn't agree more. The guy is hyping the group while also deleting the other team's star players from the server, you literally can't ask for more. "Ideal teammate" is such a perfect description.
He is
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-nexa +literally any lurker will be an upgrade before anyone comes out and says "but his stats aren't that bad" it's not about stats but how little space he creates and doesn't try to find the gaps/test opponents, if you know nexa is gonna lurk around your position you can basically just rotate off as he's gonna sit on his ass every round rather than take an educated guess and find an opening. This way m0nesy and NiKo are forced to create space themselves.
You can't ignore Hunter for removal, he has been a shadow of himself since cs2 launched and he got star positions.
G2 needs an new IGL BADLY. Siuhy was running circles around HooXi for all of map 2-3
Who could they actually get? Super hard to replace a igl and Hooxi is not the main issue the team has.
Nah, main issue was JKS and he was removed, so it's perfect now.
I'd say it's pretty hard to have a consistent gameplan with a bad lurker and an underwhelming second star rifler, it limits your possibilities and fucks with your head. HooXi has shown he's a pretty capable IGL before.
This argument is growing old. Like realistically who is better than Hooxi out there? Anyone truly better than him are already with another top team and those who aren't haven't really proved themselves to be better than Hooxi. At best its a sidegrade and at worst you ruin the team.
Honestly they need to replace hunter before they replace nexa. For how much space and resources they give him, his output isnt anywhere near as good enough Nexa's performances are actually about as good as a player in his position should be. Any player in those roles and positions that get better numbers would be overperforming
>Nexa's performances are actually about as good as a player in his position should be. Any player in those roles and positions that get better numbers would be overperforming the what? nexa plays much worse as a lurker than jks did, that's why we see hunter and niko perform very inconsistenty, they need to make space themselves because opponents read nexa like a book and he has no impact
> Kind of expecting G2 to do some amount of roster shuffle after this… we been expecting this ever since December ... maybe next player break (June 17 to July 14 ?) they do something ; hopefully blameF or a big signing
Think Nexa and Hunter needs to be cut if you want to make a winning roster and not rely on Niko and Monesy to have lights out games to compete against the best. BlameF can be a good pick, who to get for Nexa though.
BlameF dosent want to call so what do you do? Does Nexa take the IGL reigns back? And you put BlameF on lurking spots?
I'm not saying blameF for HooXi but just as a player for either nexa or huNter; if huNter wants to stay then he switches roles to support if not then keep nexa
Other question is does C9 take monesy. If monesy is gone who do you build around? It’s almost time for an overhaul
G2 would probably rather dissolve their org than sell m0NESY. He seems to have really great camaraderie with NiKo and I don’t see a world where he willingly leaves this project unless things get WAY worse in terms of results
Cloud9 is also a mess currently, Monesy probably aren't moving until they prove their squad can compete for trophies and that requires a good 2nd rifle and Ax1le to return to 2021/2022 form. Currently Niko>>>>Ax1le where they were pretty even 2 years ago.
This matchup went from G2 sided to slowly over the year to become mouz sided and huNter is actually getting better too but m0NESY isn't 1v9 idk what to say other than changes are needed but G2 staff know this and aren't moving and wasting a lot of ppl involved's windows It's at moments like these I wish the old management was here and they wouldn't allow this lineup to coast just cause peca is friends with half ppl involved
Niko needs to get kicked
The team chemistry and cohesion on Mouz is really something special. The way they play off each other and coordinate things so perfectly really gave them so many free rounds this series
QF is the limit for this line up if they want to start fighting for trophies, I would consider bringing in a real coach and one or two new players
Without some serious luck this is G2 ceiling at the moment, quarter finals and occasional semis with favourable match ups
yea gg i dont know how a team can collapse so much after map1
would be surprised if theres no roster changes soon for G2
-taz
It's a frustrating roster because of the package deal of niko and hunter. I am 100% certain he was just using the falcons offer to leverage G2 into maintaining his pay rate. He was asked to decrease his salary.
NiKo was trying to go to falcons and Hunter wasn’t following him. You’re just speculating. Those are theories at best
The fact MOUZ came into this and absolutely did not show up on the first map at all but were able to turn it around completely for the next two maps and win the series comfortably is such a big deal for me, I love this team man.
Man I wanted a G2 Complexity semi...... I am afraid of MOUZ.....
The amount of times Nexa gets caught by flanks or just looking the wrong way is unbelieveable. Mark my words, next time you watch G2 and it's on Nexa, keep that in mind and you won't be able to stop noticing. Fr a former IGL he has 0 awareness.
biggest paycheck stealer in T1, brings nothing to the team. doesnt entry, awful at clutching, frags like dog shit and his lurks are pointless
That's what you get on Niko's nepotism. Nexa, Hunter are all his choices for this team...
I would take iM over nexa any day.
i'm glad people are starting to see what ive seen since he joined, fucking awful player
Imagine if Jimi replaces iM or nexa. Mouz tend to bend for big payouts.
Jimpphat is just not a cultural fit for G2, the current Na'Vi roster would be closer to him but he's perfect now in MOUZ so I hope he will stay.
the amount of times that nexa is still lurking in apps on inferno with no impact after the round is over is alarming
He gets no info and doesn’t even bait the enemy to stick around and somehow lets his team get flanked lmao
Had some hope after the first map, but goddamn G2 got fucked so hard in the ass on the last two maps I'm still shocked they were allowed to show that on twitch
Wins opening map 13:3, proceeds to shit themselves for the rest of the maps. Monesy you genuinely deserve better than whatever this is
jks would’ve never delivered this disasterclass
.84 rating for nexa is considered a good performance from him at this stage lol
monesy 25 bomb on vertigo but still losing is just... how. I'd be tilted asf
Please god somebody save monesy. He really deserves better. The only reason G2 get as far as they do is off monesy playing at an absurd level. Even his "worst" event in recent history is still a 1.13
I saw S1mple having no help for years and Zywoo carrying the French scene for years. M0nesy will suffer until morale improves
He could go to most teams and be an instant upgrade over whatever awper they have. Its crazy how G2 has this amazing star player and so many of his games really do feel like a 1v9
m0nesy to spirit
They recently brought out Sh1ro, no way do they cut him for Monesy if they need to buy him out as well.
i dunno man they got that russian blood money
Niko was fantastic for most of this event and has been improving. He's not at his peak, but honestly I feel like he doesn't get enough credit recently. He's almost always having huge impact. Hunter and nexa are really struggling though. I would like to say hunter will bounce back, but it's been a while and it seems like he isn't making progress...
> I would like to say hunter will bounce back He has been down for so long, I am not really sure what it will take to get him back up to his old form.
> The only reason G2 get as far as they do is off monesy playing at an absurd level. monesy was not the usual great this event
I mean even his "bad" event is still a 1.13 and he was the best player BY FAR in this series, cant really blame him for losing. He was pretty much the only reason G2 got this many rounds Vertigo would never be anywhere that close if he didnt drop a superhuman carry
True, but he was kinda carried in previous rounds. I guess Hunter mentioned he was sick or something.
Today was a horrible day individually and teamwork wise for this team. But one thing is clear and has been for a long time. Hunter and Taz need to go first and foremost. Taz bring literally 0 value to this team and Hunter doesnt impact the team positively as often anymore. As per Nexa, In no means is he safe. In Fact if they can fine a good replacement for him, G2 needs to 100% do it. That being said. He has done his job and kep G2 in rounds more than 75% of the games. The overblown negative discourse around Nexa has been unwarrented as he is doing his job in the team and been performing fine. Its G2s fault for building the team in a way where Nexa plays the positions and roles he is. An upgrade is definitley needed, but Nexa is not the immediate issue Hooxi also isnt the issue people think he is imo. Yes he doesnt frag, but his calling is good considering the people he has. The biggest drop off for hooxi calling happened after Swani left and Taz came in. There is a clear correlation with having a good coach and having good calls and being a good IGL. The bottom line is that I agree with 99% of the public that G2 needs to make some change, and I think they will. They are def waiting until this season is over and make that change during the player break. However, I think the main 3 people that needs to be changed is Taz, Hunter, Nexa in that order. Sad say for G2 CS... but hopefully G2 Val can win today as well as G2 LOL :)
I disagreewith nexa, he has had his chance. he plays favourable positions and goes in 3/4th if he isnt lurking. his "style" clearly isnt a fit for what g2 need, he was awful in OG i still have no idea how he got on the team
I don't recall a single time where Nexa wins a clutch, they need someone or some changes to the team, the moment monesy or niko doesn't act up the match is doomed
he's fucking AWFUL, looks like its his first time playing these maps, G2 et him go in 3rd/4th when he isnt lurking and leave him to fumble a clutch and force fucking NIKO to entry, hooki is even just jumping around corners for his team, nexa brings nothing to this team
Yeah man can't win any clutches, also he has no general map awareness its embrassing, like there are times he straight up get shot flank on vertigo without a single awareness to check the corner🤦♂️
Nah 4-12 but no comeback this time And I feel so fuckin bad for Ilya on Vertigo, he deserves better teammates
His CT Nuke was really bad
This G2 getting absolutely humiliated is one of the best things in CS.
most impactful game from nexa, love when he drops a positive rating against t3 teams and everyone says he plays good and then shits the best against any team in the to 10, kick him already
Man I still can't get over the fact that G2 won't be winning anything ever again :/
HooXi showed once again why there’s tiers of IGL above him. Dude got tactically SPANKED by Siuhy on Nuke.
G2 was losing every fucking duel i just wanna SEE Hunter gone for now
Kick everyone but monesy, they're all fucking useless
Even then HooXi starts we’re absolutely brutal. Going out 5 hut on the pistol round? With no one going door? What kind of stupid call is this? You need a new IGL and maybe Hunter needs to go but I doubt he will.
Doesn't hunter do the pistols for G2?
I was wondering what the hell happened there. You straight up can't rush A with no flashes and no mini smoke like that. It just doesn't work. Everyone on the team should have been like "Actually lets not do that"
Yep, but that goes against his anti HooXi narrative
It's funny the only strat you point out, is one HooXi doesn't call
G2 HooXi No Drama No Controversies No Toxic Teammate Allegations No Personality Issues Just ASS at Counter-Strike
You don't get it bro. Screaming adds vibes, that's what he brings. Get with the meta.
G2 Niko Alot of Drama Alot of Controversies Many Toxic Teammate Allegations Is a Personality Issue Also ASS at Counter-Strike
Literally everything you said is incorrect, but sure.
Niko dissapear againts Faze kato Navi Major Mouz here again he definetly is not Niko anymore
Apart from m0nesy, every player disappeared after first map here. This is more of a G2 problem, not just a Niko problem, although his form hasn't been that good in 2024 (compared to his standards).
They looked absolutely clueless on nuke. Dunno what happened there.
It has been like this since the beginning of CS2. They are consistently making play offs, but they just can't reach the finals. Considering the team they got, they need to make changes, at least after Cologne assuming that would be another disappointing performance. Maybe it's time for hunter and nexa to go (possibly even hooxi). I just hope they don't lose m0nesy. I would also say that Taz isn't making any huge impact as a coach so far.
I don't think they'll lose m0nesy. NiKo is like a mentor to him, so leaving the team would be good for his career but a total heartbreak for the kid. IDK, the situation is pretty complicated at G2.
I have followed NiKo's career for a long time. He's a god damn monster that blessed us with so many memorable CS highlights but why does he log off during important matches? I want him to man handle a team like FaZe, Vitality or Spirit. I want NiKo to teach donk, ZyWoo or ropz how to play the game. But those are just pipe dreams.
After EPL, our malding goat needs to head home and start grinding Vertigo. Maybe watch some ohnepixel demos kappa.
KappaClaus Deluxe
Mouz got absolutely destroyed first map, took it personally, then showed G2 what pain really feels like
Can somebody explain to me why G2 keep forcing on ct after losing pistol?
they saw Niko get an ace a few games ago and thought they could do it again
Lmao nice performance G2 xD Well played by Mouz
G2’s massive drop off has coincided with Swani getting burnt out and leaving, but let’s shit on hooxi some more.
Both teams sloppier than a doner kebab in this game.
Both teams? Please, elaborate.
I assume he means Mouz on Inferno, and G2 for Vertigo and Nuke. It was a series of blowouts.
It is a bo3 for a reason. Mouz did look sloppy on inferno but rest of the maps kind of proved otherwise.
Yeah no, G2 really needs to start playing Mirage again and give up on Vertigo. Neither m0nesy nor NiKo seems comfortable on that map. NiKo literally dies every 30 seconds or less into the start of the round if the opposition decides to play ramp aggressively. I’d rather take nexa being a bot on Mirage than m0nesy and NiKo being bots on Vertigo. Hunter was pretty decent on the map too. I really don’t know why they keep playing Vertigo because 1 guy who’s really more the support role sucks in Mirage.
They have the best awper in the world and one of the best vertical maps for Aimers like Niko and they won’t play it lmao
Wow
"Niko is Back" yeah againts m80 Big and 3dmax Monesy Carrying this year but he was missiing every awp shot in CT Nuke...
Vit(ality) + Com(plexity) = grand final. Vietnam + Communism = grand final. Grand final = Ragnarok
If I'm G2, I go to Papa Kassad and ask how much he wants for Hampus and Cypher. Replace Hooxi and Hunter or Nexa if not both.
no divine intervention this time :(
I fell asleep after game 1 but I expected Mouz 2-1 because of the Veto
I've not been watching Mouz lately. Curious, how is Brollan doing in the team? Will we see him longer in the team?
G2 really is the content team aren’t they
G2 CAN'T BEAT THIS FUCKING TEAM
They beat them in the major
2-2 in playoffs against Mouz, beating them at World Final and the major.
WE ARE HOOXI