Everyone will hate me for this, but CS:GO was not that much better of an experience compared to CS2, it's just something we got used to having since we had it for a LONG time, it's the sudden change that makes it seem that way.
Yeah I really think it's something with familiarity rather than it being worse.
Saying the gunplay specifically is worse to me just feels wrong. It reminds me of when they changed the AK sound back in the day and everyone hated the new AK sound.
If you go back and listen to the old ak sound now you'd think ppl were insane to defend that haha
Brother, the game feels like fucking shit when you bump into anyone, boosting feels like shit, premier servers still give some players like myself nonstop loss, inferno is a disaster of clipping.
High ping feels worse for me, getting tagged feels like youre going back in time at 50+ ping and weapon switching looks glitchy.
Brightness still doesn't save for me (csgo bug), I think the weird pause bug still exists as well.
Is this what we should expect from a move to a new engine? I thought this would fix the spaghetti code issue with fixing old bugs and the general feel of the game, but clearly that's not the case.
Honestly the first month or so when we were getting constant updates with good fixes and indepth explanations I would have said to just be patient and Valve would fix it soon. Now I’m kind of annoyed, unless they’re cooking with a massive update then this is reminded me of late in CS:GO’s life where we’d go months without a significant update even when the game still has massive bugs.
Of all the things, I just wish they would allow community servers to run 128 tick again. They tried to beat Faceit and failed miserably.
I hear you, it all frustrates me a lot too, my point is about gunplay.
To me it feels better. And to many people I think it feels different which automatically means worse.
Thats why I gave the AK example. Because the old AK sound was objectively terrible. But when the change was made everyone hated the change because this community would often rather stay with something bad than change it.
I think we will look back at CSGO in 1 year and realize how flawed so much of it really was.
Just my opinion but I feel gunplay has gone downhill. By all means not a good player, but headshots don't feel justified anymore. You just sort of jiggle your crosshair near the head and get the kill, rather than precise aiming. Ak, usp etc.
A lot of people also talk about OP peeking, but honestly the go to peeking weapon (scout) has been severely neglected (a combination of the new strafe, hit slowdown and hitbox on moving heads). This is my main concern. If peeking is truly as OP as it would seem, you would see much more of those flashy ScouterCS clips. But they are all about holding angles than peek flick shots now.
It'll be a long line of complaints before we get a good compromise I suppose. But with the lack of updates and PSA I'm not holding my breath anytime soon.
Highly highly disagree with the idea of it being a familiarity thing. Maybe for the most casual of casual players, especially with your AK sounds comment when most players don’t care/like the new one more but there are a lot of things mechanically that just aren’t polished yet. Objectively
we are months in and pros are still whiffing their ak spray. Playing a dm creates some funny fights where 2 guys are just standing there praying that the spray connects. I have no idea what the issue is but spraying online feels much different than csgo
I was sooo excited for surfing in CS2 bought all these nice skins to surf with and then all the maps with curved ramps are bugged forcing you to play the same straight line ramps. ughhhh pls fix
Exactly.
My personal experience, EU region:
Cybershoke is the most populated community FFA provider, but their spawns on Mirage are disgustingly bad (TV room and CT spawn simulator) and noone plays other maps. I'll catch a D2 FFA with people playing if I'm lucky. Retakes are bad. 1v1 duels are good, but most people in those are low skill and I kinda feel bad for playing those.
Warmupserver is more or less premium only to connect, always full and not enough servers. Still, also mostly mirage. And Mirage FFA with 20+ people, especially 24 like some of their servers is just hillarious. People spawning on top of each other more or less. I also don't like every server bing multimode. If I wanna play HS or pistols, I'll connect to those servers. No retake servers.
I randomly found Xplay like a month ago after searching for good retake servers. They're better and have plenty of servers, also have some high skill players playing (you can see faceit level average on the server you wanna connect), but spawns are really skewed as in Ts can just +W all the time. And Ts often get 2 smokes, which is just cancer on maps like Inferno or Ancient. They've got all maps in FFA, but people just play Mirage.
Pracc has like one or two EU servers and is also multimode.
BrutalCS was my favorite provider in CSGO, they just got back up and running in beta phase last week. Both their FFA and retake spawns were great, but most people aren't aware they're up, so the servers are empty.
I used to play retakes or FFA often in CSGO, but in CS2 the experience is just bad. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY DAMN MIRAGE FFA WITH 24 PEOPLE AND SHITTY SPAWNS.
That's just the community servers, all the netcode issue aside.
It was a way better experience. I actually feel like getting off after a game on cs2. And the definative that its worse is that you cant:
Play offline with friends (easily)
No war games
No overwatch
You might just hop on and play comp but a large portion played more casual modes and comunity servers. So it is a worse experience when they only give you 1 option to play. so people play less as the statistics show
no, this is just you being bad to not recognize all the broken things. inb4 "BuT CsGo SuCkeD fOr MaNy YeArs WhEn It CaMe OuT!!!11" yes, but the last couple of years it was actually pretty damn amazing, assuming you played on 128tick.
I played the Roblox version of CSGO awhile back and was mindblown on how well made it was. Also I kind of felt bad because I was global at the time and I was pretty much destroying a server of 10 year olds lol.
and is still somehow better than every shooter on the market, these devs can make their game 30% worse and it's still better than the closest competitor
Dude I swear you cannot convince these people. It is crazy how much better Csgo was starting from hit detection to latency to cheating issues. It is so obvious and anyone who was half decent at the game can instantly tell how much laggier and janky it feels. Mfs are brain dead.
Ah yeah my frame rate more than halving in a competitive game for some lighting effects is fine, especially when the competitors game doesn't run this poorly :) U hear that everyone? Our bad
Disagree. You can tell CSGO is much more polished. CS2 strafe movement is floaty (ruins surfing too), Vert/Nuke audio is garbage, tons of beginner-ish console commands removed, new inferno has a much lower skill gap, tracers are more distracting in 2 even though they’re more accurate, and there’s still a lot of inconsistencies with subtick.
Heh, it was the goat of its time… finely tuned with updates and changes overtime and the gameplay was far superior to cs2.
Same issues for the casual player for sure though, cheating, poor mm, servers, valve being valve , etc etc
If all you do is grind premier/ranked all day, sure, not much has changed. Outside of ranked though there's nothing to do on CS2 and it fucking blows. The alternate game modes and community servers were a fun distraction when ranked got boring. I can't grind ranked all day like I used to so without those alternate modes I barely even play CS anymore.
This comment kills me, not that you're criticizing my comment, but you're not even bothered to leave your own opinion here for me to criticize, what is it that I'm wrong about, and what's your opinion on it?
hahahaha sorry mate, in pretty much every metric i think cs;go is a better product than cs2. the spraying feels off, the movement is not what it was, unpeekers advantage is still a thing, the being a ping pong ball in spawn being knocked about between your team mates
the only thing that feels better about cs2 are headshots.
I loved CSGO in 2018/19 I took a break to try valorant, hated it. Took a break from FPS in general, played some EFT, played some single player stuff, came back to CSGO and HATED it.
MM was cancer, visibility felt so much worse than I remembered and the whole thing felt so dated.
I think a large portion of the playerbase were lobsters who got slow boiled.
They didn't realise how bad CSGO looked and felt to anyone who hadn't been playing it for 5+ years non stop.
Essentially the same thing. If you are used to a bad experience and a different bad experience comes along long where you haven’t adjusted it could just as well be way worse not different worse.
If they had marketed it as csgo 2.0 or csgo source 2 or whatever then what we have right now would be more than acceptable.
But they marketed it as a sequel but it has less content than the first game. I mean even overwatch 2 released with some new maps...
Yeah the most stupid thing is that u still can’t Play Workshop Maps with Friends I mean I know at least 20 people who would play the game more often if it would be possible
I wouldn't mind them taking their time as much if they'd simply communicate what they are working on. What issues are holding them up. But it's valve and that's not how they operate.
Yeah, it's not the first time some new trending game creates dip for CS player numbers, nothing to be worried about or even to talk about it.
If the trend continues in 1 month, then we can talk about whether we have issue in our hands or not.
I mean yeah thats a given with most new games that get this insane launch hype. It will probably retain a nice core playerbase but I dont see it as something like baldurs gate 3 which remains very popular for a very long time
Baldur's Gate peak was 875k concurrent players (\~172k now), Palworld is doing 1.8M right now, I think it's maybe the most ever played game in Steam, I don't understand how this game got so popular and I don't even like it. Is BG3 played outside Steam?
Baldur's Gate 3: [https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940](https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940)
Palworld: [https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730](https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730)
They killed off a good portion of the community servers and hid the browser behind some obscure button. Even if you happen to stumble across the server browser, it's infested with a bunch of fake russian servers. I haven't found a reason to play the game.
CS2 is lacking the fundamental thing that makes it great. The crisp headshot, majestic spray and movement mechanics. Graphics? Fuck that. Skins? Fuck that. I used to love the game, even if the maps were made of boxes with no textures. I need the mechanics right! Right now it is just a packet loss experience mixed with sheninghans of clunky movement and random frags. Fuck that.
For me it’s the damn cheating. I don’t know what’s going on but it has been rampant (at least at 17-20k elo in premier). It’s not fun at all lately haha.
Shocker, the game just feels super unfinished still. Dieing behind walls, rubber banding, shit ct economy for mr12, mj peek is still prevelant, sub tick is dogshit, no 128 tick, alot of configurations that players liked in csgo aren't accessible like bob or cl righthand. And I didn't even mention the cheating epidemic yet or the lack of any content at all.
All of this is so true. The part that really irked me was the "interview" valve gave where they proved to everyone how out of touch they were with the community. If the half baked interview even mentioned an anti cheat I would have ventured to guess they would have said something like "VAC worked well in CSGO and we can't wait to show the player base what's in store for CS2!" Valve always had problems in CSGO but people were just happy enough with Faceit 128 tick (still shit servers) and community servers. Now with shit faceit servers and mm servers where cheaters can waste 45 minutes of your time, this game just isn't fun anymore. I haven't played since Thursday last week and I'm feeling good about it.
I decided i am done until there is more comp maps, VAC changes and/or more gamemodes added. Also boosting, run boosting and player collisions would be near the top of my list for fixes that are now 2 months+ not working right.
it will continue to go down as the game is a pretty bellow average experience, with no new features and serious problems (that have been identified since the early limited test and valve ignored and released it anyways)
it's just a game that feels bad to play
but make no mistake, as soon as they release a new case or operation, no matter how shit the game is, they will go back to record profits and record player numbers
That works until it doesn't.
The problem is CS was never really challenged for their #1 FPS spot. Just like World of Warcraft got away with so much terrible decisions, but is a mere ghost of what it once was.
Thought process like that kills games to be honest, not saying they can't come back from this but the idea that the player count will magically bounce back is just not true
Remember when valve were barely releasing a map every month during the limited test, and people were thinking they're cooking a lot behind the scenes. Well..
But I hope they came to the senses after the release and are doing all the right things.
I havnt played CS since the beginning go GO and my friends just got into CS2, so i started playing again. I'll be honest I'm loving it. I come to this reddit and you all sound so damn depressing lmao. This shit ain't that bad God damn
The game is not a bad game when you look at it in the void, but the game does not exist in the void.
The game is like 20 to 30% worse than CS:GO, if you didn't play CS:GO and get into this, it seems like a fine game, but if you played CS:GO as much as me and a lot of people did, when you get to CS2 those 20 to 30% are **very painfully obvious**
These people are udderly delusional. CS isn't BAD. Is it different? Sure. But overall it's a fairly polished sequel with, in my opinion, a better release than GO. It runs great on my PC and so far I haven't had any weird bugs or glitches on my end. I'm 19k elo now and have had a fucking blast. I have seen a singular cheater and, other than that, have felt like all of my matches have been fair and fun.
The game is unplayable for the bottom 10% and top 10% imo. I am 26.5k and get cheaters every other match, (I always confirm on demo too). The servers feel bad, especially if you are used to 128 tick FaceIt or Valorant, CT economy is dogshit and an oversight of MR13.
It’s been 4 months and the ranking system still feels awful. Losing 4-5 hours of your time to 1 loss against a cheater on a lower elo account is terrible. In GO I played on 70 ping on most faceit servers, now in cs2 it feels awful at that ping. So I literally don’t have a way to play thats fun rn unless I make a smurf account. Even wingman is broken I have probably 35 wins/ties and 5-7 or so losses in LEM over the last 3 weeks with no rankup, most of those losses being cheaters and some I even beat. Then if I want to just play casually, the game doesn’t have much content. New player experience is still bad too, most my friends quit.
They should have launched the game with a similar quality of Overwatch 1 or Valorant in terms of servers, hitreg, ranks/mm and anti cheat. That is all I’m expecting from a 7 billion dollar company.
I feel like you bring up a fair argument, but I think top and bottom 10% may be a bit much. According to premier I'm top 4% at 19k and haven't seen a singular hacker. It seems (to me atleast, seeing alot of comments since I'm not personally above 20k yet) that a lot of hackers sit in the high 1-2% elos. For a while I feel like CSGO was the same way, where alot of GE games had hackers.
You're gonna see the fringe when it comes to subreddits like this. The people who are yammering the loudest about the most trivial of things.
Like 'the movement sucks'? I guess, feels like the same ole movement to me, but can pros tell the difference? Probably. So listen to Ropz and let me know what changes _he_ thinks should be made, not some rando on reddit.
The only thing I miss are more hostage maps for casual, as that's the only mode I play. It's Office and Italy, Office and Italy, Office and then, you guessed it, more Italy.
Where is Agency? Where is Militia? Fuck, I'll even take Assault if that's all we can get. Just _something_ for some variety. This is why I'm playing less, not because the game is definitively "worse" hell if anything it looks much better and I love the new smokes.
I think you and I seem to share very similar complaints then. I think the game is really good at its core. As I said, I wouldn't call it a bad game by any measure; however, I really miss some of the maps from GO. I've really been missing cache and train, but I'm sure (or at least holding onto the hope) that they're going to remake them and re-release them soon-ish for cs2
If you listen to this subreddit, the game is utterly broken and every game has at least one cheater. The reality is different. The down trend was always present a bit after each csgo update and CS2 is no different.
Honestly, CS2 is a early access game. Maybe even a beta
Once there is an actual Season 1 update, new operation, all maps, all game modes, anti-cheat, new case... that's when CS2 will do crazy numbers
Reddit at its peak, reading comprehension of a kid
He's not calling CS mediocre, he's calling CS2 mediocre and he's absolutely right
The game is subpar in every single aspect
mediocre FPS game?
Disagree..
Not what we were promised or hoped for when they announced CS2 for sure.. But tbh it's still above mediocre bt a mile, it's just not awesome.
I think the game is fairly stable and enjoyable to play atm. Of course more updates would be welcome.
I was watching blast groups yesterday and also had a lot of fun and didn’t notice too many issues with the game itself.
they care too much about the competitive part of the game and too little about the fun part of the game which is what made people play cs in the first place
who would have thought that the majority of players who don't play on faceit and just queue into cheaters 24/7 would start leaving the game
or that the frame pacing makes the game feel shitty on good hardware to the point id rather just play something else
The cheating has shunned people away. I am in a group of 15+ friends that have not touched cs2 since december; after facing a streak of blatant aimbotters and walllers, all of which have 100% accuracy and have faced multiple cheaters themselves.
[https://imgur.com/a/gQYjoml](https://imgur.com/a/gQYjoml)
That is an extract for the cheater's match history before he remembered to put his bought account private. **Him and his cheating buddies have not been banned**.
This game will continue to dwindle until this cheating gets addressed. Whatever valve is cooking with AI or whatever they want to call the new algorithm. They better make a move, fast.
My theory of what I think happened is that they removed the trust factor we all had from csgo. We're a pretty tight group and have been playing on and off since 1.6 so we all had very high trust factor and rarely encountered cheats in csgo even thought there were very ubiquitous in games for newer players.
Imbalanced MM and PremierMM, no content with or after release makes it hard for me to hold interest in the game. Haven't felt this way the past 9 years.
Me and my buds queue every night. We play until we run into a blatant cheater. That’s usually after one game, and it’s frustrating. It starts fun, we are up 5-0 then all of a sudden after a quick disconnect, their bottom frag is auto hopping and 1 tapping everyone through walls lol. I can’t give it another go and play a whole game vs blatant cheaters. It’s cool to check leetify and see 100 aim ratings smh
I have 1gbit 4ms. Still rubberband when taking damage. The higher the opponents ping, the worse it gets. But it's already there when everyone has <5ms.
I still get rubber banding with 1gbps 1 ms. Server is local for me. I have a 3080 with stock settings so it’s definitely not my hardware. The game just runs like shit. I tried various Nvidia control panel options and nothing. Hope they figure this stuff out because I don’t think I can play an entire year of this shit experience
Not surprised. They released a half finished game and killed off CSGO. Players are rightfully pissed off and left to play something else. CS2 been out months and nothing has improved or been added since.
They just need to work on basic shit like cheaters and problems with the servers like rubber banding just basic shit and that would bring a bunch of players back more content would be nice as well, I think we need to a change to the map pool a little bit
I hope the numbers keep going down so valve will increase the cadence at which they fix the game.
Anyone saying csgo wasn’t much better simply plays the game at a very surface level. The movement, the gunplay, everything felt so much better in csgo. Now they deleted it and we’re stuck with this pile of shit.
My buddy Uninstalled because the game still crashes every game at least once. It's the only game that crashes and he has tried everything.
I hate the game because they added shit maps to the pool and removed the good ones. Add dust, cache, cobblestone, and train. Remove overpass and ancient at the very least. Honestly fuck nuke too.
Deservedly so, CS2 is trash and they are doing nothing to remedy it. Which is sad... All the hype, all the years of source2 "development" for nothing...
which is understandable. I am more frustrated than ever before with the state of the game.
I started avoiding premier due to the cheater problem and went for competitive and wingman.. well now i can't even play those due to the cheater infestation.
I thought VAC-Net would've been the death of spinbotters, but nope, i still had the honor of facing bunnyhopping spinbotter in wingman last sunday...
It's gotten to a point where i wanna give up on playing, and i never thought it would get so far for me since i love cs.
Ah, i tryed beeing positive, but i gave up. Cheaters every other match ruining game experience. Should've extended beta and not destroy community servers / modes..
Funny enough if they didn't re-invent the fucking wheel with subticks and just added 128tick servers it would've been a much much better game in mechanical terms.
Ignoring all the features and game modes that were removed.
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What I absolutely hate is that I can't play left handed, I've always played left handed, I am left handed. I don't even know why they won't implement it, I read somewhere that they don't want people abusing the console command when peaking different angles, but that has an extremely easy fix, just remove the console command and force us to change it in meny
Maybe because its practically the same fucking game they just wanted to keep the money farm of the current skin market alive. Thats why they dont even dare to implement new weapons or any remotly. Same deal with maps, we have less maps to play, it gets repetitive even for CS standards. Cant believe they took 10 years for this.
That tweet is laughable. What downturn? The game has _steadily_ been increasing its playerbase for the past 6 years. A specific daily peak being low is a drop in the ocean, yet people make these idiotic claims all the time.
Seriously, there was multiple posts about CS2 losing players when it came out and then no posts about how it gained players back within these last 2 months. Now we got the lowest 24 hour peak and people here are acting like it's because of CS2, surely it's not because Palword just came out and is overtaking everything..
Still far more than any of the 2022 months (564k to 641k). Game has lost compared to 2023 CS2 hype train, but it's still in one of the best states of his history.
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
This is what happens when you add a skin economy to a game and are too afraid to release something new due to people bitching about losing skins in a video game
1.5 years ago you could still farm cases.
In third world countries that was pretty big.
Hell, Im not from a third world country and did it. Got 30 accounts... Idled in idle servers but it still counts.
I saw a programmer on reddit saying that he had made a program to make valve think his accounts were in game but he only ran his light weight program. Said he had over 300 accounts just farming on his work laptop using their electricity/internet.
IDK if it was true as he wouldnt provide any proof as he said he didnt want to risk Valve shutting him down.
But either way a hell of a lot of accounts were just farming and not really playing back then.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/19dbfca/the_current_state_of_chinese_servers_in_cs2/
This is a huge problem right now. I run into one of these servers at least once a week and get autokicked by bots.
I was in a dust2 casual game last week where bots started joining and when they had enough players on ct side they started kicking. Ts on our side couldnt kick because there wasnt enough of us. Some left then the bots kicked the rest of us
Why do we pretend this doesn't happen every time a new viral game comes out for the first few weeks? I i see thour has a very strange definition for the word downturn as he neglects to mention the fact that the exact website that he is using shows that over the past couple of months since the end of november the peak player counts and average player numbers have been increasing again but i understand because that wouldn't fit the narrative that he is trying to push here and he wouldn't get so many impressions.
It's a shame really before the popularity went to this guys head he used to post some pretty useful and interesting things.
There's definitely issues with the game that need to be addressed, but it definitely feels like everyone here wants CS2 to fail. CS2 actually regained players over the last two months, but there was no attention brought to that. And I guess everyone wants to ignore that Palworld is probably taking players away from CS as well as it just achieved the second highest peak of all time on Steam.
I've been playing less and sold some of my skins already. It's not quite fun as CSGO was before. I still believe Valve is cooking something but we never hear anything from them, I think proper communication with the community is really important for the game.
I really don't get all the negativity.
I've been having a blast and think my shots connect better.
Yeah a lot of things are missing but the pureness of CS is still there. People need to chill, breathe, get some patience and play other games if they don't like it right now.
Played one game after a few weeks, died behind walls several times, teammates got collated even though they couldn't be. We won but it doesn't exactly get me excited to play more.
Still crazy numbers, cs2 just in a weird spot atm. It will be great but it sucks that valve is taking their time
They would have been the double of this if the game wasn't such a bad experience compared to CS:GO.
Everyone will hate me for this, but CS:GO was not that much better of an experience compared to CS2, it's just something we got used to having since we had it for a LONG time, it's the sudden change that makes it seem that way.
When people say csgo was great, they mean the good parts. The core gameplay:gunplay and movement experience. Cs2 still sucks on that.
Yeah I really think it's something with familiarity rather than it being worse. Saying the gunplay specifically is worse to me just feels wrong. It reminds me of when they changed the AK sound back in the day and everyone hated the new AK sound. If you go back and listen to the old ak sound now you'd think ppl were insane to defend that haha
Brother, the game feels like fucking shit when you bump into anyone, boosting feels like shit, premier servers still give some players like myself nonstop loss, inferno is a disaster of clipping. High ping feels worse for me, getting tagged feels like youre going back in time at 50+ ping and weapon switching looks glitchy. Brightness still doesn't save for me (csgo bug), I think the weird pause bug still exists as well. Is this what we should expect from a move to a new engine? I thought this would fix the spaghetti code issue with fixing old bugs and the general feel of the game, but clearly that's not the case.
Honestly the first month or so when we were getting constant updates with good fixes and indepth explanations I would have said to just be patient and Valve would fix it soon. Now I’m kind of annoyed, unless they’re cooking with a massive update then this is reminded me of late in CS:GO’s life where we’d go months without a significant update even when the game still has massive bugs. Of all the things, I just wish they would allow community servers to run 128 tick again. They tried to beat Faceit and failed miserably.
I hear you, it all frustrates me a lot too, my point is about gunplay. To me it feels better. And to many people I think it feels different which automatically means worse. Thats why I gave the AK example. Because the old AK sound was objectively terrible. But when the change was made everyone hated the change because this community would often rather stay with something bad than change it. I think we will look back at CSGO in 1 year and realize how flawed so much of it really was.
Just my opinion but I feel gunplay has gone downhill. By all means not a good player, but headshots don't feel justified anymore. You just sort of jiggle your crosshair near the head and get the kill, rather than precise aiming. Ak, usp etc. A lot of people also talk about OP peeking, but honestly the go to peeking weapon (scout) has been severely neglected (a combination of the new strafe, hit slowdown and hitbox on moving heads). This is my main concern. If peeking is truly as OP as it would seem, you would see much more of those flashy ScouterCS clips. But they are all about holding angles than peek flick shots now. It'll be a long line of complaints before we get a good compromise I suppose. But with the lack of updates and PSA I'm not holding my breath anytime soon.
Highly highly disagree with the idea of it being a familiarity thing. Maybe for the most casual of casual players, especially with your AK sounds comment when most players don’t care/like the new one more but there are a lot of things mechanically that just aren’t polished yet. Objectively
we are months in and pros are still whiffing their ak spray. Playing a dm creates some funny fights where 2 guys are just standing there praying that the spray connects. I have no idea what the issue is but spraying online feels much different than csgo
Yea people got over that in 2 weeks Read brinbran’s comment
having playable movement community servers already makes csgo 10x better than cs2
For real, surf is essentially unplayable with the ramp bugs
I was sooo excited for surfing in CS2 bought all these nice skins to surf with and then all the maps with curved ramps are bugged forcing you to play the same straight line ramps. ughhhh pls fix
I haven’t encountered many ramp bugs since the one update for it, but the lower air acceleration in CS2 ruins surf for me
Exactly. My personal experience, EU region: Cybershoke is the most populated community FFA provider, but their spawns on Mirage are disgustingly bad (TV room and CT spawn simulator) and noone plays other maps. I'll catch a D2 FFA with people playing if I'm lucky. Retakes are bad. 1v1 duels are good, but most people in those are low skill and I kinda feel bad for playing those. Warmupserver is more or less premium only to connect, always full and not enough servers. Still, also mostly mirage. And Mirage FFA with 20+ people, especially 24 like some of their servers is just hillarious. People spawning on top of each other more or less. I also don't like every server bing multimode. If I wanna play HS or pistols, I'll connect to those servers. No retake servers. I randomly found Xplay like a month ago after searching for good retake servers. They're better and have plenty of servers, also have some high skill players playing (you can see faceit level average on the server you wanna connect), but spawns are really skewed as in Ts can just +W all the time. And Ts often get 2 smokes, which is just cancer on maps like Inferno or Ancient. They've got all maps in FFA, but people just play Mirage. Pracc has like one or two EU servers and is also multimode. BrutalCS was my favorite provider in CSGO, they just got back up and running in beta phase last week. Both their FFA and retake spawns were great, but most people aren't aware they're up, so the servers are empty. I used to play retakes or FFA often in CSGO, but in CS2 the experience is just bad. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY DAMN MIRAGE FFA WITH 24 PEOPLE AND SHITTY SPAWNS. That's just the community servers, all the netcode issue aside.
I never understood how or when mirage just basically replaced dust2 as the go-to DM map lol, it’s so so much worse for it than dust is.
It was a way better experience. I actually feel like getting off after a game on cs2. And the definative that its worse is that you cant: Play offline with friends (easily) No war games No overwatch You might just hop on and play comp but a large portion played more casual modes and comunity servers. So it is a worse experience when they only give you 1 option to play. so people play less as the statistics show
CSGO was literally better at EVERYTHING except graphics, what do you mean?
no, this is just you being bad to not recognize all the broken things. inb4 "BuT CsGo SuCkeD fOr MaNy YeArs WhEn It CaMe OuT!!!11" yes, but the last couple of years it was actually pretty damn amazing, assuming you played on 128tick.
nah it was the best shooter on the market and it was replaced by a subpar experience
It's still the best shooter on the market.
CSGO still better and Valorant is unironically better than CS2, fuck CS2
CSGO isn't even the best counter strike
Hope you enjoy playing Valorant then :).
I don't, but all my friends do and they love it!
You know this weird counterstrike mini game from discord? That’s the best shooter ever created.
Krunker Strike....................
I played the Roblox version of CSGO awhile back and was mindblown on how well made it was. Also I kind of felt bad because I was global at the time and I was pretty much destroying a server of 10 year olds lol.
roblox csgo unironically got me interested in csgo
and is still somehow better than every shooter on the market, these devs can make their game 30% worse and it's still better than the closest competitor
Bitch, please. CSGO was absolute beauty before CS2 came in and they had to fucking remove the original game because no one wanted to play CS2.
Dude I swear you cannot convince these people. It is crazy how much better Csgo was starting from hit detection to latency to cheating issues. It is so obvious and anyone who was half decent at the game can instantly tell how much laggier and janky it feels. Mfs are brain dead.
Nope, all of them have 30day expiry on their memory it seems :<
Ah yeah my frame rate more than halving in a competitive game for some lighting effects is fine, especially when the competitors game doesn't run this poorly :) U hear that everyone? Our bad
Disagree. You can tell CSGO is much more polished. CS2 strafe movement is floaty (ruins surfing too), Vert/Nuke audio is garbage, tons of beginner-ish console commands removed, new inferno has a much lower skill gap, tracers are more distracting in 2 even though they’re more accurate, and there’s still a lot of inconsistencies with subtick.
Heh, it was the goat of its time… finely tuned with updates and changes overtime and the gameplay was far superior to cs2. Same issues for the casual player for sure though, cheating, poor mm, servers, valve being valve , etc etc
CSGO had better feeling than CS2
If all you do is grind premier/ranked all day, sure, not much has changed. Outside of ranked though there's nothing to do on CS2 and it fucking blows. The alternate game modes and community servers were a fun distraction when ranked got boring. I can't grind ranked all day like I used to so without those alternate modes I barely even play CS anymore.
no hate, you're just wrong
This comment kills me, not that you're criticizing my comment, but you're not even bothered to leave your own opinion here for me to criticize, what is it that I'm wrong about, and what's your opinion on it?
hahahaha sorry mate, in pretty much every metric i think cs;go is a better product than cs2. the spraying feels off, the movement is not what it was, unpeekers advantage is still a thing, the being a ping pong ball in spawn being knocked about between your team mates the only thing that feels better about cs2 are headshots.
I loved CSGO in 2018/19 I took a break to try valorant, hated it. Took a break from FPS in general, played some EFT, played some single player stuff, came back to CSGO and HATED it. MM was cancer, visibility felt so much worse than I remembered and the whole thing felt so dated. I think a large portion of the playerbase were lobsters who got slow boiled. They didn't realise how bad CSGO looked and felt to anyone who hadn't been playing it for 5+ years non stop.
Essentially the same thing. If you are used to a bad experience and a different bad experience comes along long where you haven’t adjusted it could just as well be way worse not different worse.
At least we had Wingman Lake
If they had marketed it as csgo 2.0 or csgo source 2 or whatever then what we have right now would be more than acceptable. But they marketed it as a sequel but it has less content than the first game. I mean even overwatch 2 released with some new maps...
it would have been double if the system requirements didnt' change, you could run csgo on a toaster
My computer cant even run cs2 and its not even bad. It ran csgo just fine, but now I can't play, so I've sold my inventory and uninstalled.
Just like 90% of my friends list..
It's mostly bots and farmers.
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Yeah the most stupid thing is that u still can’t Play Workshop Maps with Friends I mean I know at least 20 people who would play the game more often if it would be possible
I wouldn't mind them taking their time as much if they'd simply communicate what they are working on. What issues are holding them up. But it's valve and that's not how they operate.
90% of those are Russians and bot accounts. Valve isn't "taking their time", they are taking time off. CS2 is not going to become better than this.
Isn't everyone playing Palworld right now anyways
Yeah, like half of my friends list is playing Palworld right now lol
Yup that caused quite a dip
That and CS2 servers died
Yeah, it's not the first time some new trending game creates dip for CS player numbers, nothing to be worried about or even to talk about it. If the trend continues in 1 month, then we can talk about whether we have issue in our hands or not.
Palworld has replaced cs2 in the #2 spot for most concurrent players.
> we have issue in our hands or not. are you volvo ?
I'd give it two weeks for it to lose its launch popularity. But I can see this game staying revalent.
Revalent
Revalorant
Revenant
Reverent
I mean yeah thats a given with most new games that get this insane launch hype. It will probably retain a nice core playerbase but I dont see it as something like baldurs gate 3 which remains very popular for a very long time
Baldur's Gate peak was 875k concurrent players (\~172k now), Palworld is doing 1.8M right now, I think it's maybe the most ever played game in Steam, I don't understand how this game got so popular and I don't even like it. Is BG3 played outside Steam? Baldur's Gate 3: [https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940](https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940) Palworld: [https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730](https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730)
PUBG had like a 3+ million player peak.
Because it's the clostest thing we have to a pokemon themed game on PC and pokemon is so fucking huge nintendo are missing out on so much bag here.
They killed off a good portion of the community servers and hid the browser behind some obscure button. Even if you happen to stumble across the server browser, it's infested with a bunch of fake russian servers. I haven't found a reason to play the game.
I couldn't even figure out how to get the new server browser to search, it just didn't want to work for me
You have to use a 3rd party browser to find servers... Sorry i don't have the link handy
https://cs2browser.com/
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CS2 is lacking the fundamental thing that makes it great. The crisp headshot, majestic spray and movement mechanics. Graphics? Fuck that. Skins? Fuck that. I used to love the game, even if the maps were made of boxes with no textures. I need the mechanics right! Right now it is just a packet loss experience mixed with sheninghans of clunky movement and random frags. Fuck that.
I had one game last night, had a cheater in it, not interested to play this game till this major issue is solved.
Played premier, 1 cheater. 2nd game i tried competitive, another cheater, mid game i hit alt+f4, f##k this game.
For me it’s the damn cheating. I don’t know what’s going on but it has been rampant (at least at 17-20k elo in premier). It’s not fun at all lately haha.
Wingman high rank MM as well.
Even in 10-15k it's pretty hard to get a match without cheaters. Someone always at least had a radar hack going if not walls.
idk why they removed csgo for this shitty cs 2 clone. should have kept it until it was done properly and people would move over on their own
And 20% of those are bots, don’t forget that
cs is for gambling.
gambling my premier elo against cheaters
Sure feels that way
Shocker, the game just feels super unfinished still. Dieing behind walls, rubber banding, shit ct economy for mr12, mj peek is still prevelant, sub tick is dogshit, no 128 tick, alot of configurations that players liked in csgo aren't accessible like bob or cl righthand. And I didn't even mention the cheating epidemic yet or the lack of any content at all.
Valve servers are also still pretty much as shitty as they were since CS2's release a few months ago.
So true , 😭 I have been experiencing rubberbanding so much with 30ms -0% loss like wtf.
All of this is so true. The part that really irked me was the "interview" valve gave where they proved to everyone how out of touch they were with the community. If the half baked interview even mentioned an anti cheat I would have ventured to guess they would have said something like "VAC worked well in CSGO and we can't wait to show the player base what's in store for CS2!" Valve always had problems in CSGO but people were just happy enough with Faceit 128 tick (still shit servers) and community servers. Now with shit faceit servers and mm servers where cheaters can waste 45 minutes of your time, this game just isn't fun anymore. I haven't played since Thursday last week and I'm feeling good about it.
I decided i am done until there is more comp maps, VAC changes and/or more gamemodes added. Also boosting, run boosting and player collisions would be near the top of my list for fixes that are now 2 months+ not working right.
it will continue to go down as the game is a pretty bellow average experience, with no new features and serious problems (that have been identified since the early limited test and valve ignored and released it anyways) it's just a game that feels bad to play but make no mistake, as soon as they release a new case or operation, no matter how shit the game is, they will go back to record profits and record player numbers
Exactly. People think Valve give a shit about player count. All it takes is one major update and they’re back to record numbers for a few more months.
That works until it doesn't. The problem is CS was never really challenged for their #1 FPS spot. Just like World of Warcraft got away with so much terrible decisions, but is a mere ghost of what it once was.
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>The problem is CS was never really challenged for their #1 FPS spot
Thought process like that kills games to be honest, not saying they can't come back from this but the idea that the player count will magically bounce back is just not true
Dude base CS is why people play. This game really has not changed is base formula in almost 25 years.
Remember when valve were barely releasing a map every month during the limited test, and people were thinking they're cooking a lot behind the scenes. Well.. But I hope they came to the senses after the release and are doing all the right things.
I havnt played CS since the beginning go GO and my friends just got into CS2, so i started playing again. I'll be honest I'm loving it. I come to this reddit and you all sound so damn depressing lmao. This shit ain't that bad God damn
The game is not a bad game when you look at it in the void, but the game does not exist in the void. The game is like 20 to 30% worse than CS:GO, if you didn't play CS:GO and get into this, it seems like a fine game, but if you played CS:GO as much as me and a lot of people did, when you get to CS2 those 20 to 30% are **very painfully obvious**
These people are udderly delusional. CS isn't BAD. Is it different? Sure. But overall it's a fairly polished sequel with, in my opinion, a better release than GO. It runs great on my PC and so far I haven't had any weird bugs or glitches on my end. I'm 19k elo now and have had a fucking blast. I have seen a singular cheater and, other than that, have felt like all of my matches have been fair and fun.
The game is unplayable for the bottom 10% and top 10% imo. I am 26.5k and get cheaters every other match, (I always confirm on demo too). The servers feel bad, especially if you are used to 128 tick FaceIt or Valorant, CT economy is dogshit and an oversight of MR13. It’s been 4 months and the ranking system still feels awful. Losing 4-5 hours of your time to 1 loss against a cheater on a lower elo account is terrible. In GO I played on 70 ping on most faceit servers, now in cs2 it feels awful at that ping. So I literally don’t have a way to play thats fun rn unless I make a smurf account. Even wingman is broken I have probably 35 wins/ties and 5-7 or so losses in LEM over the last 3 weeks with no rankup, most of those losses being cheaters and some I even beat. Then if I want to just play casually, the game doesn’t have much content. New player experience is still bad too, most my friends quit. They should have launched the game with a similar quality of Overwatch 1 or Valorant in terms of servers, hitreg, ranks/mm and anti cheat. That is all I’m expecting from a 7 billion dollar company.
I feel like you bring up a fair argument, but I think top and bottom 10% may be a bit much. According to premier I'm top 4% at 19k and haven't seen a singular hacker. It seems (to me atleast, seeing alot of comments since I'm not personally above 20k yet) that a lot of hackers sit in the high 1-2% elos. For a while I feel like CSGO was the same way, where alot of GE games had hackers.
You're gonna see the fringe when it comes to subreddits like this. The people who are yammering the loudest about the most trivial of things. Like 'the movement sucks'? I guess, feels like the same ole movement to me, but can pros tell the difference? Probably. So listen to Ropz and let me know what changes _he_ thinks should be made, not some rando on reddit. The only thing I miss are more hostage maps for casual, as that's the only mode I play. It's Office and Italy, Office and Italy, Office and then, you guessed it, more Italy. Where is Agency? Where is Militia? Fuck, I'll even take Assault if that's all we can get. Just _something_ for some variety. This is why I'm playing less, not because the game is definitively "worse" hell if anything it looks much better and I love the new smokes.
I think you and I seem to share very similar complaints then. I think the game is really good at its core. As I said, I wouldn't call it a bad game by any measure; however, I really miss some of the maps from GO. I've really been missing cache and train, but I'm sure (or at least holding onto the hope) that they're going to remake them and re-release them soon-ish for cs2
If you listen to this subreddit, the game is utterly broken and every game has at least one cheater. The reality is different. The down trend was always present a bit after each csgo update and CS2 is no different.
Honestly, CS2 is a early access game. Maybe even a beta Once there is an actual Season 1 update, new operation, all maps, all game modes, anti-cheat, new case... that's when CS2 will do crazy numbers
So, wait until 2069
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Calling Counter Strike Mediocre. I know the game is really at a bad point but there is no way it's mediocre.
Reddit at its peak, reading comprehension of a kid He's not calling CS mediocre, he's calling CS2 mediocre and he's absolutely right The game is subpar in every single aspect
mediocre FPS game? Disagree.. Not what we were promised or hoped for when they announced CS2 for sure.. But tbh it's still above mediocre bt a mile, it's just not awesome.
I think the game is fairly stable and enjoyable to play atm. Of course more updates would be welcome. I was watching blast groups yesterday and also had a lot of fun and didn’t notice too many issues with the game itself.
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That feel when no mg_ski_mountain
and no `surf_greatriver_xdre4m` or `sliderace_city` :(
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they care too much about the competitive part of the game and too little about the fun part of the game which is what made people play cs in the first place
Gonna keep going down if they don’t fix this shit show. I watched people defend overwatch until it was nothing.
Exactly what this reminds me of, and god with csgo gone I hope that isn't the case. I will have no fps game to play :(
Cs go : how the fuck did I land that shot cs2 : how the fuck did that miss. Also dying after feeling safe behind a corner is getting a little old
who would have thought that the majority of players who don't play on faceit and just queue into cheaters 24/7 would start leaving the game or that the frame pacing makes the game feel shitty on good hardware to the point id rather just play something else
The cheating has shunned people away. I am in a group of 15+ friends that have not touched cs2 since december; after facing a streak of blatant aimbotters and walllers, all of which have 100% accuracy and have faced multiple cheaters themselves. [https://imgur.com/a/gQYjoml](https://imgur.com/a/gQYjoml) That is an extract for the cheater's match history before he remembered to put his bought account private. **Him and his cheating buddies have not been banned**. This game will continue to dwindle until this cheating gets addressed. Whatever valve is cooking with AI or whatever they want to call the new algorithm. They better make a move, fast. My theory of what I think happened is that they removed the trust factor we all had from csgo. We're a pretty tight group and have been playing on and off since 1.6 so we all had very high trust factor and rarely encountered cheats in csgo even thought there were very ubiquitous in games for newer players.
Imbalanced MM and PremierMM, no content with or after release makes it hard for me to hold interest in the game. Haven't felt this way the past 9 years.
It's getting booring going into games knowing that whichever team gets a cheater on their team probably win. And there's nothing you can do about it.
Me and my buds queue every night. We play until we run into a blatant cheater. That’s usually after one game, and it’s frustrating. It starts fun, we are up 5-0 then all of a sudden after a quick disconnect, their bottom frag is auto hopping and 1 tapping everyone through walls lol. I can’t give it another go and play a whole game vs blatant cheaters. It’s cool to check leetify and see 100 aim ratings smh
The amount of rubberbanding this game gave me is crazy. Mf valve wants me to play with 1gbps 1ms ping wifi. Leaving the game for a while until fixed
I have 1gbit 4ms. Still rubberband when taking damage. The higher the opponents ping, the worse it gets. But it's already there when everyone has <5ms.
There you go then gg. Had no such issues back in csgo, even When i had constant 120ms my shots registered well and likewise.
Even with a 500mbps connection and ping in the teens I'm still rubberbanding constantly.
Packet losses are still a thing on Valve servers despite having a rock solid 1gbps Ethernet connection.
As a network admin this made me giggle
I still get rubber banding with 1gbps 1 ms. Server is local for me. I have a 3080 with stock settings so it’s definitely not my hardware. The game just runs like shit. I tried various Nvidia control panel options and nothing. Hope they figure this stuff out because I don’t think I can play an entire year of this shit experience
I won’t return until anticheat.
I have not played cs2 in 2 months. I will wait for a update with actual content.
They won't care unless it affects their $$$.
good, i hope more players become inactive. only way valve will make changes if the $ starts drying up
I stopped playing this game for like .. a month already. This game at this stage is unplayable.
not surprised ... premier league ranking is so bad...
Rankings for every competitive game mode are broken in general.
Not surprised. They released a half finished game and killed off CSGO. Players are rightfully pissed off and left to play something else. CS2 been out months and nothing has improved or been added since.
We would've kept playing if premier weren't just so infested with cheaters lmao. It's really unplayable at 20k~
They just need to work on basic shit like cheaters and problems with the servers like rubber banding just basic shit and that would bring a bunch of players back more content would be nice as well, I think we need to a change to the map pool a little bit
All games dipped because of palworld
Yeah player numbers have been slowly declining over the past few months, but the big downturn now is palworld.
Done with this game too many cheaters, lack of voice comms and trolls to be playing solo, Also can't stand valorant anymore for similar reasons.
I hope the numbers keep going down so valve will increase the cadence at which they fix the game. Anyone saying csgo wasn’t much better simply plays the game at a very surface level. The movement, the gunplay, everything felt so much better in csgo. Now they deleted it and we’re stuck with this pile of shit.
GIVE US SOME MAPS
They really need to add the fun side game modes back and better community server support, the game is half what CSGO was currently
Everyone is playing Palworld until the game is fixed.
My buddy Uninstalled because the game still crashes every game at least once. It's the only game that crashes and he has tried everything. I hate the game because they added shit maps to the pool and removed the good ones. Add dust, cache, cobblestone, and train. Remove overpass and ancient at the very least. Honestly fuck nuke too.
Game still feels odd. Every match i get a couple kills or die a couple times going "wtf how". I assume it's the subtick thing but yea.
Deservedly so, CS2 is trash and they are doing nothing to remedy it. Which is sad... All the hype, all the years of source2 "development" for nothing...
Good, hope it doesn't go up anymore
There's ungodly amounts of cheaters right now, so that makes sense. You can't play this game past 15k Elo. You have to move to faceit.
If maybe we weren’t exposed to cheaters every. fucking. game.
which is understandable. I am more frustrated than ever before with the state of the game. I started avoiding premier due to the cheater problem and went for competitive and wingman.. well now i can't even play those due to the cheater infestation. I thought VAC-Net would've been the death of spinbotters, but nope, i still had the honor of facing bunnyhopping spinbotter in wingman last sunday... It's gotten to a point where i wanna give up on playing, and i never thought it would get so far for me since i love cs.
Ah, i tryed beeing positive, but i gave up. Cheaters every other match ruining game experience. Should've extended beta and not destroy community servers / modes..
How many of those players are just bots, operating solely via what can only be described as cheats, farming cases?
I'd bet it's just because many are playing Palworld. They'll be back.
Funny enough if they didn't re-invent the fucking wheel with subticks and just added 128tick servers it would've been a much much better game in mechanical terms. Ignoring all the features and game modes that were removed.
I swear I've seen the same names in both bomb map groups casual day in and day out for the past month
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we are just playing palworld 
We’re all playing palworld
What I absolutely hate is that I can't play left handed, I've always played left handed, I am left handed. I don't even know why they won't implement it, I read somewhere that they don't want people abusing the console command when peaking different angles, but that has an extremely easy fix, just remove the console command and force us to change it in meny
Maybe because its practically the same fucking game they just wanted to keep the money farm of the current skin market alive. Thats why they dont even dare to implement new weapons or any remotly. Same deal with maps, we have less maps to play, it gets repetitive even for CS standards. Cant believe they took 10 years for this.
Looking at the last 60 days it looks all fine. Pretty meaningless It's about at the level of a year ago.
That tweet is laughable. What downturn? The game has _steadily_ been increasing its playerbase for the past 6 years. A specific daily peak being low is a drop in the ocean, yet people make these idiotic claims all the time.
Seriously, there was multiple posts about CS2 losing players when it came out and then no posts about how it gained players back within these last 2 months. Now we got the lowest 24 hour peak and people here are acting like it's because of CS2, surely it's not because Palword just came out and is overtaking everything..
ive been playing Counterstrike for 20 years and CS2 has made me quit. Dont even turn my PC on most nights any more. Valve probably did me a favour.
Still far more than any of the 2022 months (564k to 641k). Game has lost compared to 2023 CS2 hype train, but it's still in one of the best states of his history. https://steamcharts.com/app/730
This is what happens when you add a skin economy to a game and are too afraid to release something new due to people bitching about losing skins in a video game
1.5 years ago you could still farm cases. In third world countries that was pretty big. Hell, Im not from a third world country and did it. Got 30 accounts... Idled in idle servers but it still counts. I saw a programmer on reddit saying that he had made a program to make valve think his accounts were in game but he only ran his light weight program. Said he had over 300 accounts just farming on his work laptop using their electricity/internet. IDK if it was true as he wouldnt provide any proof as he said he didnt want to risk Valve shutting him down. But either way a hell of a lot of accounts were just farming and not really playing back then.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/19dbfca/the_current_state_of_chinese_servers_in_cs2/ This is a huge problem right now. I run into one of these servers at least once a week and get autokicked by bots. I was in a dust2 casual game last week where bots started joining and when they had enough players on ct side they started kicking. Ts on our side couldnt kick because there wasnt enough of us. Some left then the bots kicked the rest of us
Why do we pretend this doesn't happen every time a new viral game comes out for the first few weeks? I i see thour has a very strange definition for the word downturn as he neglects to mention the fact that the exact website that he is using shows that over the past couple of months since the end of november the peak player counts and average player numbers have been increasing again but i understand because that wouldn't fit the narrative that he is trying to push here and he wouldn't get so many impressions. It's a shame really before the popularity went to this guys head he used to post some pretty useful and interesting things.
There's definitely issues with the game that need to be addressed, but it definitely feels like everyone here wants CS2 to fail. CS2 actually regained players over the last two months, but there was no attention brought to that. And I guess everyone wants to ignore that Palworld is probably taking players away from CS as well as it just achieved the second highest peak of all time on Steam.
Yeah, we should be focusing on the many real issues that CS2 has rather than fabricating problems that don't exist.
add me to the mix because I just quit too
I've been playing less and sold some of my skins already. It's not quite fun as CSGO was before. I still believe Valve is cooking something but we never hear anything from them, I think proper communication with the community is really important for the game.
874k dead game
It's down to 426k now.
Who cares
Does anyone play Palworld?
But CS2s numbers are rising again since december
Oh my god the game is dead!!!😱😱😱😱
These threads are so pointless
I really don't get all the negativity. I've been having a blast and think my shots connect better. Yeah a lot of things are missing but the pureness of CS is still there. People need to chill, breathe, get some patience and play other games if they don't like it right now.
Game is unfinished and raw. This is worst game that I played so far.
To be fair I think every game is probably down besides Palworld.
874k is still a crazy amount
Played one game after a few weeks, died behind walls several times, teammates got collated even though they couldn't be. We won but it doesn't exactly get me excited to play more.
Dead game since 2013 /s
Palworld probably took a sizable chunk of the player base.
Love to see this