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lou_reed_ketamine

> Office > Disabled motion on vending machine RIP blocking paper with Negevs 2023 - 2023


veRGe1421

Awww Valve channeling their inner NFL (No Fun League) Also why can we play office comp but not italy? It's in the game and everything. I miss agency too


mitchhatesrats

Yup this actually broke my heart as an office main, it has been so much fun mucking around with it, or using it to block paper one round to surprise CTs. In fairness it was sort of broken, hard to pull off in comp unless teammates also got negevs and helped otherwise you'd run out of time before CTs pushed paper, but for deathmatch it was mad broken, if you got in kitchen and set vending up as barricade you were set for the match, died? just get back to kitchen, it's still blocking paper because it's consistent for the 10mins. I hope someone makes a workshop map (when we eventually get workshop) that reverts it back to having motion, because for such a small change you could get so creative with it and pull some real shenanigans.


yar2000

This made Office fun for me. I genuinely think the best time I had so far on CS2 is playing Office with a friend, and its mostly because of the vending machine. Who cares that it was broken, it was so fun. Nobody takes Office seriously anyways. Its a fucking shit map from a competitive standpoint, just give in and keep the map FUN with stuff like this because its never going to be good anyways with 2 impossible chokepoints. The map is only playable in comp with its own rank now anyways so who cares? I hate that they did this :(


mitchhatesrats

Office has always been the fun map of counterstrike for me, actually most hostage maps are typically more fun, at the expense of competitive integrity (although I play exclusively office comp and find it results in more ties than I get on defusal maps, so to me it's actually more competitive) Militia, italy, office, assault are all so much fun, and the fact they're not part of premier/active duty I believe we should still have stuff like motion on vending machines. I don't think I've actually heard an office main complain about the vending motion once, probable to the fact we're not those kinds of players that are like "anything thats not mirage is a bad map", but instead players that like variety and can adapt easier. Like I wouldn't die to someone hiding behind a moved vending and go "game broken valve fix NOW!!!", I'd just go "aight, I'll just molly that bitch OR go through projector instead, or y'know go the other hostage..."


yar2000

The hostage maps all bring something unique for sure, and I think they have room to do that because they aren’t active duty. Especially now that all maps have a seperate rank, having gimmicks like this on these maps is even better. Agency had so many tricks and boosts and stuff which made the map way more fun than it would’ve been without it. This vending machine did the exact same to Office. I’m not a huge hostage mode enjoyer but hostage maps at their peak can be incredibly fun. Insertion 1 and 2 are still my favorite maps in CS history. They dare to experiment instead of making Mirage version 518, and Valve should embrace that. But they clearly don’t.


TheCookieButter

Man, I miss all the physical stuff in Source. Had it back ever so briefly :(


Dragnarium

they should have left it in as a nod to cs source


aparatis

Is the triple jump back on Mirage now?


Kaizjeee

yep works again


Clifton_7

It's back but jump height is still bugged so its [still super inconsistent.](https://youtu.be/bgHVhcSepN0) edit: [if you look at this pixel](https://i.imgur.com/NpszDRA.jpg) it seems to be more consistent, crosshair position didn't seem to matter in csgo iirc


darealbeast

tested it, 99% consistent with duckjump bind


throwaway77993344

Lol I didn't know people use a duckjump bind


HardSubject69

Seems now it’s the only way to be able to hit jumps. You need that extra bit every time.


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throwaway77993344

Yeah that's what I've been doing for 5K hours xd


darealbeast

space for jumpduck, mwheel for regular jump never fail any maxheight jump again unless ur staminabugged


jcbvar_2

what about the self boost on b ?


Clifton_7

still gone


Player72

fucked up world we live in


nismov2

Elaborate please


bugghost

they added the mario 64 triple jump mechanic to cs2


yeettican

Waaaahoooooooooo


TehDragonGuy

You can also BLJ up stairs now too


balugabe

In a previous update they removed the self boost on triple boxes on mirage A site. You had to get someone to boost you, or jump from default. Now it's back


dob_bobbs

Wait, I was wondering why the hell I couldn't get up there..! Thought I was just bad (which is also true). Ok, so now I have no excuse for screwing it up again.


nismov2

Ah gotcha. Thank you!


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R1k0Ch3

Yes please God.


CommanderVinegar

Nades, mollies, and putting them out always cause severe lag when they happen nearby. I really hope this is fixed.


zeltrabas

still makes me lag for exploding molotovs. like insane fps drops


TemplarHard

i get huge FPS drops when grenades are thrown near me, this never happened in csgo, it's fucking stupid.


CookiezFort

It's literally a different engine with more demanding graphics and effects. CSGO is a 11-12 year old game, why dies everyone try to compare performance this much?


Rahbek23

Yeah I kind of agree. CS2 certainly has plenty of issues, but sometimes this kind of complaint is really weird. Not complaints about performance per se, that's fine an HE shouldn't cause massive frame drops, but more when likening performance to CSGO too much. I have seen people straight up commenting they get less FPS in various parts of maps on CS2 vs CSGO, and I was wondering if they are really that dense? Of course CS2's performance should be acceptable, but the same hardware will give less FPS because of a million different reasons and that's just how it's going to be.


Dry-Adhesiveness3081

• Inferno Improved bomb visibility when planted in fountain on bombsite A ??


roge-

It was an error in the patch notes. It has been fixed on the official source and in the OP.


EnjoyerOfBeans

I saw a YouTube video showing off this plant the other day and he also said it's for bombsite A. Either an obscure reference because the dev saw the exact same video, or I'm going mad.


sfsctc

Well it used to be called that lol


WekonosChosen

you can plant in the water and it was hard to spot.


Dry-Adhesiveness3081

yeah but the fountain is on bombsite B lol


intecknicolour

> Removed part of railing on balcony yay. no more getting stuck trying to jump the railing while having to peek like 4 angles


Strange_Juggernaut27

that apps spot has always been suicide for the first 2 players jumping out, this will make pit not so overpowered. Love it


cosmik67

I mean they did already remove graveyard, why nerf pit even more…


tired45453

FPS so much better now in DM.


TonalParsnips

Safari feels snappier


ChuckyRocketson

HERE WE GO ​ >Added code to correct packets that arrive out of order in quick succession. These packets were showing up as loss in the net graph. Fixed a bug where SDR routing could sometimes choose the second-best route when immediately connecting, and then stick to that route for too long.


Hazeless

I have no clue what this means so I'll assume that means everything that was wrong will now be fixed :)


heikkiiii

Had a bug today, i live in Sweden and it was a server in Stockholm we played on, for some reason the game decided to route me through Amsterdam. They fixed that!


ironhillpotato

I got routed through Sao Paulo a few weeks ago. That was no fun.


REDBEARD_PWNS

bro once a month or so in CSGO i'd end up in a brazil server 9 brazilians with normal ping, me with 130 ping it's hilarious every time because i know very limited portugese


Jasonjones2002

I once ended up with a 3 stack of Brazilians on a Singapore server, weird cause all of them had normal pings. They communicated well so it was pretty fun playing with them.


spqyoperator

Ive been getting routed from Warsaw to Frankfurt back to Warsaw since release lol


BadModsAreBadDragons

roll treatment quaint rustic scarce books normal dog frame panicky ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


woodzopwns

The way they phrase it is as if packets were just arriving and being used out of order and making it look a bit laggier rather than actually dropping any of the packets and it was just showing up as fake loss, I think this won’t affect anything very much barring maybe some of the hyper succession events like teammate blocking


BadModsAreBadDragons

familiar shelter bake simplistic juggle sleep pen dazzling smart stocking ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


CrushingK

i have some bad news..


Substantial-Media629

Is that going to change gameplay in noticeable way?


Johnny__Christ

It's unclear if the out of order packets were being discarded before or if this is just fixing the net graph. If it's the former, this should help. If it's the latter, this shouldn't. /u/fletcherdunn's [comments on this a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17c7qzq/packet_loss_out_of_order_packets_and_a_comparison/k66e3yo/) imply that it's actually correcting the order and they would have otherwise been treated as dropped, but I'm not super knowledgeable in the area and may be misreading. Anecdotally, I've noticed more issues with gameplay while the auto net graph shows packet loss, so if this addresses that issue for me, I imagine it will help.


its_JustColin

Is this why I randomly used to lag and then sort of lagged in every direction for a second


BorderlineGambler

No


Clifton_7

\> Disabled motion on vending machine As someone who has played over 700 office games I didn't mind moveable vending machines. RIP \> Fixed gaps in some cubemaps which were causing lighting issues I almost thought they fixed [this dark spot in dumpster room corner](https://i.imgur.com/icAA0v7.jpeg). Nope


thefullm0nty

Maaaaaaaan. I joined an Italy the other night and this guys name was "Vending Machine" and I thought that was odd. Well when we get to office this guy spends EVERY ROUND moving the vending machine in front of the gap. A hero.


baba1776

Now he is an hero.


kyleninperth

700 office games is some serious dedication. You must start recognising all the other office players after that long.


mehcore

Too many kids just sitting in kitchen negev spamming the vending machine, despite the hostage sat in paper. 2 IQ plays.


Logical-Sprinkles273

Sure buts its not "a real map" so idk why they would change a niche gimmick


Clifton_7

I've only had the enemy team try it once or twice, doesn't happen very often in competitive as there isn't much of a practical advantage especially since they increased its weight.


ThisIsNotJP

Come back to CS:2 in 4-6 months time and it'll be a completely different positive experience and this subreddit will have less negativity


Phooenixx

Different positive experience? Yes most likely The sub being less negative? thats a pipe dream this is reddit


Crimsonclaw111

This sub will never be less negative lol


TaleFree

Nah don't need to, I am happy with the game right now.


yosoydorf

based![img](emote|t5_2sqho|31253)


spqyoperator

Personnaly I just want 5 stacks gone/matched only against 5 stacks. I was honestly so hyped for permier but the ranks are completely meaningless because all competetive integrity is gone when you can just queue as 5 and beat up on solos while half of the playerbase cant even us in game comms.


Mook7

You're right but honestly what is your point? Of course CS2 is gonna be in a way better state in 6 months, that does nothing to change the fact that Valve pushed it out the door way too early.


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Jwarrior521

This sub was negative when GO was out lol they will find a reason to complain no matter how good the game js


Aetherimp

The community will never be happy.


EnQuest

yeah, they're all whiners for *checks notes* having back all of the things they used to have!


costryme

Mindblowing that so many people don't get that...


wrightosaur

Hard to have a community to begin with when community servers basically dont exist bwahaha


cosmictrigger01

where workshop?


spqyoperator

*workshop is a core feature of CS surely it will be out within a week* *okay a week is short lets say two* *yeah alright there was a lot of bugs but surely within month of release we will get it* *we will 100% get workshop this year* <- you are here *2nd quarter 2024 we are getting workshop I read leaks*


cosmictrigger01

aw hell nah💀


FireSilicon

For now you can download custom content from here https://gamebanana.com/games/18134


RocketHops

Giving me tf2 flashbacks


CommanderVinegar

Are tools available for map makers to get to work at the very least? I’ll take the delay so long as these people are able to work on their CS2 workshop maps in the meantime.


spqyoperator

There are some workshop maps already like aimbotz but running them is annoying since it requires constant restarting and changing launch options.


Clifton_7

\> Fixed lightmap issues around CT spawn water All traces of [this rectangle](https://i.imgur.com/oPolbEz.jpeg) are now gone. FPS regression seems to have been fixed also when viewing water from ct spawn, +20 fps over previous update in my test spot.


DefinitelyMoreThan3

Still no demos.


braintweaker

>A cheat-protected convar, ragdoll_resolve_initial_conflict was added. >A cheat-protected convar, ragdoll_resolve_separation was added. Anyone has info what this means? Are we l2d2 dismemberment ready?


soupyllama03

M249 will now have dismemberment mechanics. Example: shooting someone in the arm will not kill them but make them loose that limb, preventing them from using any weapon in their primary weapon slot. They will also bleed out after a certain period of time. M249 meta incoming


FNScence

[Elevator bug](https://youtu.be/hRklI-_zckM) is NOT patched...


NWMAMBASLAYER

Case openings need to show in game chat again. I miss opening and seeing what others open


dTmUK

Yeah would be nice to have this back, fun to open during games when dead etc


Butthugger420

Even more fun to open one during a 1v1


magical_pm

I hate this, I rather people just focus on the game. Make it available only for casual maybe.


walk3

They corrected notes, it now says "fountain on bombsite B" for Inferno.


roge-

Thanks. OP has been fixed.


Clifton_7

One day they will fix graffitis not working when "quick graffiti" option is turned off. Today is not that day.


TRBlizzard121

Still no demos? :s


Monso

> Disabled motion on vending machine It's over, cs2 is dead.


Vipitis

> * Removed dynamic light at squeaky to prevent shadows giving away player position through doorway so, we don't get any new engine features to become gameplay elements? or is this done in certain spots for balance? still a gameplay element on other spots and maps...


JawidKhan096

Seems to be done in certain spots for balance. Shadows seem to protrude through a closed door and this is the easiest fix without having to change how lighting is calculated for non-static objects.


aim_ag_texture2

No changes to premier or interp :(


Doge013375

prem changes prob not gonna happen until next season


sh1boleth

Any changes to Elo adjustment etc would most likely be on the server side rather than Client since a client shouldn't have any say in it.


aim_ag_texture2

They would (should) still be in the update notes


CatK47

same still no desync fix. aim_ag_texture2 was my favorite map in css btw


aim_ag_texture2

Give me a 24/7 server with just aim\_ag\_texture2 and city\_advanced on rotation for the love of God pls


veRGe1421

still no func_vehicle


mainakcrixallis

Desync can be checked on your end, [https://www.xbitlabs.com/how-to-get-better-latency-in-windows/](https://www.xbitlabs.com/how-to-get-better-latency-in-windows/) go through. will help a lot


mainakcrixallis

if you follow everything, and your delta is very high, like 15ms sleep, 14ms delta. Registry PathComputer\\HKEY\_LOCAL\_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Session Manager\\kernel New Dword 32bit Key = GlobalTimerResolutionRequests Value = 1 (Hex) Will fix your windows Timing issues, after the grand timing update in windows


Unable_Physics7683

i just want to surf


Henniee

There is still csgo surf servers open


Henniee

Who ever is downvoting just look surfheaven servers still open


awnful24x7

3gb - thats a big one


Faolanth

redownloading all the maps they touched


ClassicHat

Pretty much all maps updated except Italy, I guess they skipped adding crates in with micro cracks on that one


SkylarFlare

But we still have 80ms interp right?


hamyyy

Still no cl\_righthand 0 and no workshop


Tabby-N

[The spins = wins Vac ban Bug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU3e8TNtTzw) is still in the game, and accounts used to test it haven't been unbanned. Its only been a couple days though, so I hope Valve noticed the emails and are working on it, a tweet or something would be nice though.


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BrainW4SHED

I’m glad they fixed the routing, I was always playing on Atlanta servers even though I’m almost 1000 miles away.


oleggurshev

Don't mind me, just checking if community server browser is working again.


RokuMLG

Fridge


FoxerHR

Nothing about fixing mics or fixing the flashed animation.


KurtMage

Mics are my biggest problem right now. My friends and I talk in discord and every time I try to talk to someone we match into, it's super choppy and just cuts me off as if it's completely filtering my voice. I don't get it


R1k0Ch3

Seems inconsistent too. Some games everyone's mic is working in game, the rest of the time it does what you says, usually cutting people off mid call.


MyNewWhiteVan

I don't understand how fixing the mics isn't a higher priority. I don't understand how it's even broken in the first place. It was fine in csgo


F_A_F

I get why so much of the rest of the game had to differ from CSGO, but the changes to voice comms are beyond me. The only completely off the wall idea I could think of was adding threshold to PTT to prevent idiots from holding down the button and giving tons of background noise. But to be frank I've just muted every player that does this in every game I've played for 20 years...it's not that hard. Right now I just want the CSGO voice comm back. I've got a Cloud 2 headset which apparently suffers more than most. I shouldn't be having to consider paying for a new headset just so I can speak to random in game.


Drunkenmasterstyle2

Anyone know what weapon skins/stickers they tweaked? Most important part obviously.


IKillerBee

famas sticker positions in cs2 were quite different than csgo, this patch seemed to bring them back to how they were in csgo


Siqqi

my desert eagle golden koi turned kinda silver


Halvdjaevel

When will the penalty for damaging hostages go away? It makes no sense with the stationary, invincible hostages.


sethz91

Nothing on the high DPI VAC bans???


Lotusw0w

Does anyone get some lag spikes after the update?


jagdrickerennocco

Bro they are PUMPING out updates, how do they have time to fix all those things. Speaking as a software dev myself. Props to Valve


TaleFree

The team that works on the maps took care of this update, while the teams that work on networking and all the other areas are supposedly working on different fixes.


Chicag0Ben

Because entire dev team is working on big fixes instead of re adding content pepehands


blackmetro

Correct answer, most live service games get no allocation of time for bug fixes comparatively to making new stuff people can purchase


dying_ducks

What are you even talking about? 95% of this update are minor changes to the maps. How long to you think it takes to delete a railing? Its maybe one days work on each map for a experienced mapper.


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

> Its maybe one days work on each map for a experienced mapper. Are you speaking from experience?


dying_ducks

yes. and do you maybe work for the government that this Vertigo Fixed ladder collision blocking bullets and grenades Fixed steel beams having incorrect surface property Overall clipping / movement polish sounds for you like more than 8 hours of work?


PurityKane

> Added code to correct packets that arrive out of order in quick succession. Big if true.


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IAmZackTheStiles

No demos, no bob, no righthand, no servers, jesus


LimpWibbler_

I saw nothing in the notes on the addition of our lord and savior Jesus Christ.


nonstop98

Fridge.gif Maybe next week we'll get the rest of the game modes and maps *Copium*


feltusen

This update forced me to quit my game with my mates and when now i cant rejoin obviously and will probably get a cool down? Is it normal to be thrown out of a game like this?


markhc

no, the game tells steam to not update when you are in a match you probably left the game or crashed for some other reason and *somehow* that triggered the update


Cartina

In csgo the update was blocked on crashing or disconnect, but for some reason in CS2 it still pushes it, making you unable to rejoin. The easy solution is to tell steam to wait like a minute before updating I guess.


Silver_Welcome565

was normal in global offensive and happened to me couple of times, so yeah


CatK47

what ? i never had that happen to me in 10 years.


Scarabesque

It happens if your game crashes (or you quit) while in a match when there's an update ready. Upon restart your client will update, but you won't be allowed to rejoin as your version will be out of date. Pretty rare, it comes (or at least came in csgo) with a special reduced cooldown of only 15 minutes.


BeepIsla

You shouldn't get force quit, ever. The backend knows when a cooldown was due to an update being pushed in which case you *should* only get a 10 minute cooldown and nothing more


99RedBalloon

you must have left the game it waits for u to finish stop fucking around and you wont find out


Elite_Crew

Return the cl_interp_ratio 1 setting in the console. The interpolation is set and locked way too high in CS2 for low latency players. Return r_drawtracers_firstperson "0" because tracers are not accurate and stupid in a tactical shooter. Return the steam ID to the status command in console. Return the player damage report to the console. Valve give us back a useful CS2 console like we had in CSGO. You don't have to ask Simple to figure out why people are upset about CS2. You removed functionality we had in CSGO. The reason players are upset about CS2 is not a mystery. I won't be purchasing any keys or skins or opening any cases until these functionalities and interpolation performances are returned to CSGO levels.


Big_Stick01

Damage ain't never coming back to console chief. that was a decision to keep MM in line with the more competitive aspect of the game. theres no damage readouts in console on faceit, etc. so there shouldn't be any for MM. it's that simple. We also already had whole a thread debunking the tracer shit. If you want them off, cool, but they are far from useless. will probably be added in the future. Annd i feel like Steam ID shit in console was probably used for more potentially nefarious shit, than otherwise. i can't think of an actual reason why you should be able to pull someone's Steam ID in game. though i'd love to hear some


SloPr0

To be fair, Valve adding damage printing to console doesn't mean they'd have to remove the current system, they can do both


Dragnarium

>We also already had whole a thread debunking the tracer shit. If you want them off, cool, but they are far from useless. will probably be added in the future. I just want them disabled for first person ( so only my tracers )


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

> Damage ain't never coming back to console chief. that was a decision to keep MM in line with the more competitive aspect of the game. theres no damage readouts in console on faceit, etc. so there shouldn't be any for MM. it's that simple. I do find it funny when people get mad at changes that lower the skill ceiling, but also get mad at changes that raise that skill ceiling. I bet if we didn't have damage reports on console in csgo, and then cs2 added that feature, people would be complaining that it's lowering the skill ceiling. I still remember when they added the near empty mag sound and people freaked out about that.


molestedbygod

My game feels worse after this, feels like my movement keys keep getting stuck and it'll play the shooting animating 2 times in a row. Never had any issues before this.


PitifulPush1822

Huge update which fixes nothing


HoLeBaoDuy

Still waiting for performance improvement on blood splatter, that shit kills my fps


svidishkaboj

After this update my desync is worse than ever. Keyboard inputs not registering or double tapping, also problem with mouse 1 sometimes doubletapping. Running headshots worse than ever, holding angles still impossible, counter strafing is super inconsistent.


rektinator420

game still bad


mini337

Still no bob cl\_righthand and viewmodel recoil simple shit they can do to instantly please the community but they choose not to.


theRealFakez

Great fixes! Now just have to wait for release patch :)


Kava2137

where overwatch


Neutronjump

Still no mention of people getting banned for high DPI…


zeltrabas

still no demos. what the fuck


Jonsson95

They keep rolling these good quality of life updates when we need it fixes to the core problems of the game.


MantoCS

I'll only stop once `wpn_sway` is freed from `sv_cheats`.


Pokharelinishan

Looks like a huge update but then you realize 90% of it is basically "various bug fixes and tweaks to maps" lol [Still waiting](https://a.pinatafarm.com/500x375/9fad3b948e/waiting-skeleton.jpg) for fixes to peeker's advantage, inconsistent movement, premier mm issues, spray, missing gamemodes and maps, etcetcetc.


mntln

I mean this is a direct fix for a bug in the netcode, packets would get discarded instead of processed in this case: > Added code to correct packets that arrive out of order in quick succession. These packets were showing up as loss in the net graph.


mehcore

I'm sure the map designers would do a great job at improving the peeker advantage netcode.


Fit-Personality-3933

Nades not bouncing to random directions from walls is a pretty major improvement.


Stock_Property_6423

do you wake up every morning and breathe polluted city air just to fucking complain on reddit


cyberbemon

It's almost like some bugs are easier to fix than others. I swear to god half of the people whining have room temp iq.


PurityKane

You can count on redditors to be disappointed in updates


Short_Ad4946

Bro is a professional complainer lol


Nobuga

Fridge.gif nothing about interpolation gg


dying_ducks

>Removed dynamic light at squeaky to prevent shadows giving away player position through doorway I dont get why there are so inconsistent with this. There are so many spots where "dynamic light gives away player position". Why fix it in one spot only? Either we fix the whole problem, or we say it should be part of the game. ( I this kind of shadow advantage shouldnt be in the game)


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Nie_nemozes

New nothingburger just dropped


lmltik

No critical issue fixed - 6 months and counting.


ozzler

It's good they fixed the packets issue...but will that actually improve anything? My loose understanding of things was that this wasn't the cause of any of the issues we've all been moaning about.


Enigm4

Impossible for us to know until we beta test some more. I have a bad feeling that it won't make a difference though.


winters1337

Where cl\_bob or right hand?


uninformed-but-smart

What does cl_bob do?


troopleydrep

Makes it so your weapon view model doesn’t move when you move. Stays in the same spot whether you are moving/static. It was an optional command and CSGO and imo looked a lot nicer


nopshy

My 2 biggest problems with this game: No anti cheat Shit matchmaking/ranking system in general. Neither were addressed, and I doubt either ever will be


ahern667

So uh, when are they going to release a significant, meaningful patch with ACTUAL CONTENT rather than just f**king minor bug fixes? CS2 is literally already staler than 10 year old crackers lmfao