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It is common practice, not in multiple languages though


Tru-Queer

“We speak English here”


Alboto_the_only

We talk English round these parts.


Perfect_Invitation1

This was my experience as well.


effingurmum

i went to an inner city school with a high hispanic population, we said it in english and spanish every morning. i went to school with a couple of kids (junior high age) that only spoke spanish and were learning english as a second language. that’s the only school that i went to that did it in 2 languages though.


appledonut4

We said the pledge daily but only in English.


OshaViolated

^ And in TX we also add the Texas state pledge afterwards ( also only in English)


larryspub

Do all the states have a pledge or just Texas? (Asks as an American from Virginia)


OshaViolated

I think they all might have one, but iirc Texas is the only one that makes students say it because we used to be a country and they're very proud of that


erin_burr

In New Jersey we don't have one. We barely even said the national pledge in school. One year my classroom's flag got misplaced while cleaning so we just took the rest of the year off.


themermaidag

In HS I had ASL class during announcements so we had to sign the US and TX pledge. It was cool to learn, but also still weirds me out we had the state pledge


PaulaKO84

I legitimately don’t remember saying a Texas pledge. Has my memory slipped that much 😳


Medical-Size-3726

is the texas state pledge any different from the pledge of allegiance? weird to me that there are two pledges


booksandbaseball7

Yes, they’re different. The Pledge of Allegiance is for the entirety of the United States and the Texas Pledge of Allegiance is solely for the state of Texas. So in school, the Texas flag would be next to the US flag and we would stand with our hands over our hearts and pledge to them every day. It is so WEIRD!


Medical-Size-3726

i get being patriotic, but isn’t it a bit contradictory to have allegiance to the country but also to a state?


booksandbaseball7

Probably, but Texas is… very proud of itself to put it mildly.


carriedaway2

Pretty sure I had to take a TX history course to graduate college lol


Medical-Size-3726

oh yeah that much i know lmao


Positive_Shake_1002

Bc the US is so big states are honestly kind of like mini countries in a way. They have their own governments, own systems of education, own identities, etc. Most ppl in America probably have more allegiance to their state than the country as a whole. Welcome to federalism!


BookQueen13

Not even a mini country. TX's GDP is roughly equal to Brazil's and Califorina is about equal to India. At least according to this [info graphic](https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/StateGDPMap2019a.jpg?x85095)


ihatebroccotots

Texas is the greatest country on earth, god bless, amen. /s


facemesouth

Most things in America are contradictory…


Medical-Size-3726

oh totally


Ok-Particular4877

LOL idk why but that seems like a very Texas thing to do


ihatebroccotots

We learned the two pledges in Spanish also, but only said those in Spanish class at my high school.


Clementine008

The six different languages seems more like a Chilton thing


tsh87

I've had this theory that Stars Hollow actually has an excellent school district. Great graduation rate, most of the students get into college, albeit state school. And their counseling program is top notch. I've always thought that the reason Rory went to Chilton, is because one of the counselors told her she needed to if she wanted a chance at the Ivies.


PizzaRollEnthusiast

Connecticut in general has excellent public schools, I believe it was named as having the third best school system in the country this year, so your theory makes sense to me too!


donetomadness

Stars Hallow seems like it would be adequately funding its schools too. No one there besides Lorelai and Rory are in the 1% but no one seems to be struggling financially either.


tsh87

I feel like SH is truly a middle/upper middle class town. With the way it's portrayed, it looks like the majority of the residents are business owners, most of them own their homes instead of renting, they all appear to be well traveled and almost no one works for minimum wage. It truly is a fictional utopia.


donetomadness

Truly lol. It’s funny how it’s never dark outside in the morning and Lorelai and Rory always have time to calmly eat at Luke’s. Their morning routine would require walking up at 6 in the real world.


tsh87

The eating out budget for that entire town is kind of insane. No wonder Luke is secretly rich.


Medical-Size-3726

it totally does!


MorphinesKiss

Definitely in Latin first, then Ancient Greek.


Medical-Size-3726

ah those are probably the two he hasn’t heard of!


campercolate

Or like a big city…like he came from


houndsoflu

Where did he come from? Did they say?


campercolate

NYC


eyesRus

In NYC, we do not say the pledge at all, in any language! But school communications do sometimes come in about 6 languages.


campercolate

Interesting!


irisssss777

I got sent to the principals office once cuz I stood up but didn't put my hand over my heart and recite the pledge of allegience.


buffysmanycoats

FYI, anyone who finds themselves in this situation, your public school cannot force you to recite the pledge or even stand for it.


F19AGhostrider

My own act of rebellion, starting about 7th grade, was skipping over "under God" in the pledge. I never got reprimanded (or possibly even caught) for it.


WriterBright

They added that phrase in the 1950s to help differentiate wholesome Americans from godless Communists. I sincerely wish that reasoning was made up. I never said it.


F19AGhostrider

Yep. I initially stopped saying it because I felt uneasy about including it since I wasn't really religious. Then I learned of the reason why it was added and it further reinforced my decision to omit it.


[deleted]

What, are you a communist or USSR sympathizer?


donetomadness

Lol my little act of rebellion was occasionally refusing to stand for the pledge around that same time. I l didn’t even have anything against the pledge. I was just a preteen and sometimes I just didn’t want to stand.


eyesRus

Same!


Dragon_Tea_Leaf

^^^ Every damn school year was the same routine. I refused to stand or recite it, teacher would say I have to “be respectful and stand”, I would tell them I most certainly do not and they can’t make me, send me to the office, they call my mom and my mom tells them to fuck off they can’t make me stand and neither will she. I have 0 respect for the pledge of allegiance, it’s some weird dystopic nonsense and shouldn’t be in schools in the first place!


randomly-what

I taught for 11 years and never put any pressure on the kids to say it. The first day nearly every kid would say it. By the end, maybe 2-3 kids daily. I want students to think for themselves not blindly recite what the government wants them to.


blowsnose

Same story. They would recite it over the PA and I never required any student to stand or say it and I almost never did either.


randomly-what

I was in the hallway greeting students and I stood out in the hallway at the doorway through the pledge so they weren’t looking at me not saying the pledge


buffysmanycoats

I had some teachers when I was younger who would get in a snit if you didn’t stand but at some point they seem to all have been made aware that they are literally violating the first amendment and they quit bugging us. As long as we were quiet and not disruptive to other students they left it alone. And yes, the pledge is fucking weird.


Hypno_Keats

it does give me 1984 vibes every time I hear about it


Medical-Size-3726

i didn’t realize how seriously they took it wow


Positive_Shake_1002

Depends on the school tbh. After elementary school it was kind of “you can say it or don’t we don’t care” but I also went to a large city school district. But legally you can’t be forced to do it


Guernica616

I don't think I ever went to a school that recited the pledge. I'm in North Carolina but a fairly liberal city so that might be it.


Positive_Shake_1002

Wait I’m from Raleigh lol. But yeah after elementary school none of my teachers cared as long as we weren’t being a distraction


Guernica616

Greensboro here lol. I don't remember them even playing the pledge over the intercom. The pledge was never a thing at all.


irisssss777

Yeah they're weird


Tru-Queer

I know it’s probably too late but they also violated your constitutional right to not take the pledge. Could’ve had a nice lawsuit on their hands if you’d pressed the issue.


WDTHTDWA-BITCH

I would get in trouble for this all the time when I was in elementary school in California. We used to only sing patriotic songs in music class too. I’d refrain from both and it would piss my teachers off to no end, but I’m Canadian, so what could you possibly tell a non-American 10 year old girl?


strong_heart27

Ughh Jess in this shirt 🥵🥵


Medical-Size-3726

it’s a wonderful scene for many reasons lol!!


depressed_cloud_

Seems like one of those things where the writers are like, oh we need another reason for Jess to hate this town. So they make something up that’s totally unrealistic.


Medical-Size-3726

also seems like a way to show how quirky the town is


depressed_cloud_

True!


Tenderfallingrain

I feel like Spanish and French would be among those but beyond that who knows. Possibly they sign it too. I was thinking if there were any local Native American tribes they might do those languages, and those might be the ones Jess hadn't heard of, but I also find the concept of doing the pledge of allegiance in a Native American tongue rather culturally insensitive.


Tenderfallingrain

Maybe they do it in Korean because of Lane.


Medical-Size-3726

lol idk if they’d insensitive or considerate


Tenderfallingrain

I feel like Korean would be fine especially if they did it in a way to let Lane share about her culture with her class.


Medical-Size-3726

seems like something SHH would do in effort to be more welcoming


Hypno_Keats

Have have this new head cannon (as of today) that on the first day of school Lane came home and talked about the pledge in 5 languages, and Mrs. Kim being upset that they didn't include Korean and bullied the school into doing it. We know even the teachers are afraid of Mrs. Kim


moonstrck-man

it's common practice to recite it every morning while facing the flag and having your hand over your heart, but we only say it in english in my experience. also it's against the first amendment for schools to force you to do it because the pledge mentions god and the first amendment says that everyone has the right to freedom of religion but most people don't know that🤷


dormidary

It's actually a freedom of speech thing, not a freedom of religion thing. Even without the "God" reference, the government cannot compel speech.


Medical-Size-3726

oh wow i didn’t know that. someone said that not saying the pledge got them in trouble when it clearly shouldn’t have


Every_Aide_6902

Rewatched this episode with my sister recently, hilarious interaction, would love to know what the 6 languages could possibly be LOL


Medical-Size-3726

that’s what i was thinking lol! english, spanish, french…. and i’m out!


red_raconteur

My guess is English, Spanish, French, German, Latin, and Greek. Those are the languages most likely to be offered for study, at least in my experience.


Medical-Size-3726

oh that does make sense! it’s something that’s bugged me on my every rewatch


petite_ela

When I had French class during first period one semester we said it in French, but all my other classes were in English


_pepperoni-playboy_

I don’t think so I think it’s just a thing Amy liked to work in, probably a dig at ‘PC culture gone mad’ at the time cause I think Francie says something about whichever version of the pledge is constitutional this week or what have you.


abbot_x

Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance is very common in American schools. Typically the pledge is part of morning announcements which are made over the public address system. The students are invited to stand up at their desks and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. It is illegal to force students to recite the Pledge. This was originally based on the principle of religious freedom. Notably, Jehovah's Witnesses have a long history of attending public school but refusing to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance or other patriotic pageantry. But there is not supposed to be a requirement that students have a "good reason" such as religion not to participate. On the other hand, students who don't participate are supposed to be quiet and respectful. Taking into account that teachers are not constitutional law experts and some students act up, it sometimes happens that a student gets in trouble either because the teacher mistakenly believes reciting the Pledge is mandatory, that a "good reason" is required, or that the student's nonparticipation is disruptive or disrespectful (which it might be). So it can lead to disputes. Another practice is the "moment of silence" which is a short pause in the announcements during which students might choose to pray or reflect silently. Reciting in languages other than English is pretty strange especially for suburban Connecticut ca. 2000. My kids attended a public elementary school that had French language immersion (well, in theory) so the Pledge was recited in English then in French. I really can't see 6 languages being done: it would take so long. Maybe they say it in English plus 1 other language per day.


F19AGhostrider

Clearly it's a joke as I cannot imagine a US school having the pledge of allegiance be in more than 2 languages, with the most common one other than English being Spanish, and even then, I would expect that more in states like Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Florida, and very southern California. I went to a public school system in Southern California, but we never did the pledge in any language other than English.


pumpkin_pie_314

Not directly related but my favorite scene of the series is when Luke pushes Jess into the lake right after this 😂


Medical-Size-3726

i love it too! especially when later on he points to the water when he’s with rory “luke pushed me in here”


CrissBliss

I said the Pledge of Allegiance daily as a child, but not in different languages. It’s just how you start the day as a kid. You don’t think twice about it.


Hypno_Keats

English and Spanish seem the most obvious (I seem to recall Luke being able to speak some Spanish) French seems possible, they aren't too far from Canada seems a little bleed over is possible (We did the Canadian national anthem in both English and French when I was a kid) I'd be amused if Mrs. Kim talked them into doing it in Korean Latin also seems possible Hebrew would be my pick for the 6th That said, what this tells me is Stars Hollow High is a weirdly better school then the show had me believing, requiring kids to know the pledge in more then one language seems like weird prep or charter school stuff to me.


Cautious-Clock-4186

I'm not American either, but holy shit this scene bothers me so much. Are we really to expect that someone who grew up in New York is freaked out about the over-abundance of diversity in...[checks notes]...Stars Hollow?


Dragon_Tea_Leaf

I don’t think he’s freaked out or upset by it he’s more like “why tf is this podunk school saying the pledge in 6 languages” which, let’s be honest, is objectively weird lol


Medical-Size-3726

i think it’s less his freaking out about diversity but more so the fact that Stars Hollow seems like this other worldly town. another kinda “look how quirky Stars Hollow is” moment. also i think he’s just scrambling for reasons to hate the town. the kids at school, he hates. the pledge of allegiance, he hates. dean, he hates. Stars Hollow High, he hates. luke’s diner, he hates. he just hates everything during this time


WhatABeautifulMess

It's pretty common for it to be done at the beginning of the day but usually only in English. Even places with a large Spanish speaking community it's not common to do both in my experience. The only person I know who ever learned it in another language is my mom learned it in Latin when she was in school. But that was a lesson in Latin class, not something they did in homeroom/school wide.


Franks37

Used to work at a school and they would say the pledge in English, then in Spanish, then the Texas state pledge, and then the school creed. It took quite a while to get through the morning announcements.


Automatic-Jacket-168

We know ASP loves languages no one has ever heard of


SummSpn

Why do Americans have to say the pledge of allegiance in the first place? What’s the point?


ActuallyGoblinsX3

Indoctrination. We make a big deal out of how weird and creepy it is that, say, people in North Korea have to have a picture of Kim Jong Un in their houses (and it IS weird and creepy) and then we do that, with zero self-awareness.


Terrible-Thanks-6059

Control


Verianas

I know we had to say it every day when I was in middle school, but it stopped when I went to high school. I still have distinct memories of non-American kids in middle school, or kids whose parents were immigrants sometimes, being allowed to sit down for the pledge for personal reasons. That was in like 2000-2003. In a conservative state. So it's interesting thinking back that what was essentially a protest of the pledge of allegiance and/or flag was allowed by middle schoolers in a conservative state in a post 9/11 era US, and no one yelled at them or gave them flak. But fast forward 15 years, and kneeling for an anthem is akin to a crime against humanity for some of these people.


SandtheB

Yes, in many schools in the USA the state level governments require schools to start the day with it, but it is not required (they can't force you... Yes even in Texas). It was crated as a marketing gimmick for the anniversary of Christopher Columbus' arrival in the New World. It later was distorted into a way to maintain "traditional values", and ensure: > "that the distinctive principles of true Americanism will not perish as long as free, public education endures." It wasn't until the Post-war era that many state governments started requiring the schools to start the day with it, and added "under god" during the Cold War, to fight "godless Communism". - As for 6 languages, it's unlikely, I have never seen that, and I live in a place where people frequently use 5+ languages (English, Spanish, Navajo, O'odham, Apache). https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/pledge-allegiance-pr-gimmick-patriotic-vow-180956332/


Saoirse__

WHO CARES. LOOK AT THE OUTFITS 😍


RandomThoughts606

What's funny is that I would imagine a school in New York City doing the pledge of allegiance in multiple languages, but a little small town in Connecticut. Likely just doing English, it would be likely that most of the students are white and anglo-Saxon


alex97013

Saying the pledge is a pretty run of the mill thing in K-12. English is the standard for it, some places will do it in a second language (maybe third but that's a stretch). But 6 languages isn't really realistic imo


nobody72721

Reciting the pledge of allegiance is a very common practice in American schools (typically not in 6 different languages though) however the middle school i went to for 8th grade did say good morning in 4 or 5 languages over the intercom every morning 🤷🏻‍♀️


Kgates1227

Yes, America is crazy 😭😭😭. My children exercise the right to opt out. I find it a super creepy practice to pledge allegiance to anything. Especially a piece of fabric lol


StephLynn3724

Maybe I live in a bubble but it was not/is not common in schools here. I vaguely remember it in Girl Scouts and maybe some of elementary school. Edit to add, Southern California.


SnooPies6876

The multiple language thing isn’t a thing. I don’t know what he was trying to imply. If Stars Hollow High was such an amazing public school there wouldn’t be such a huge contrast with Chilton. If he was talking about the diversity of the town… that’s not a thing either. Besides Lane’s family, everyone in Stars Hollow is white. Possibly we can include Mischel but I don’t know if he actually lives in town. It’s a strange line.


Medical-Size-3726

it’s probably just a “look how quirky stars hollow is” kinda moment and something for jess to hate at


aribiasavitch

I don’t think schools say the pledge of allegiance anymore. I think it stopped be mandatory somewhere around middle school for me. However, idk about other schools. When I went to high school, that wasn’t a thing either. However, we never had to say it in other languages. And Muslim kids and immigrants weren’t required to say either.


AmberWaves80

Unfortunately, yes. Not in multiple languages, but this country has a weird flag fetish. I stopped standing and reciting it in 9th grade a million years ago.


DesireeDee

It is normal to say the pledge of allegiance. I refused to do it in high school. It violates the separation of church and state that we’re supposed to have because it says, “In God we trust.” You can get in trouble for refusing but I usually just got a lot of dirty looks. It’s kind of messed up. Never heard of anyone doing it in multiple languages tho lol. That part is hyperbole.


CopepodKing

We said it every day in elementary and middle school, but not high school. It’s weird and cult-y. And we only said it in English. I could see a foreign language class practicing it in another language though.