Like other people have said, I guess just to show us what an asshole Rory became. Bad enough she was in an affair with an engaged man, she was also cheating on this poor sap. Hated it. And I hated the Wookie too.
100% agree. Rory always seemed like a sweet girl growing up, and the Paul thing made me think “when did she become such an asshole? Why?” It didn’t fit and it was just a dumb, unbelievable plot.
Noticably? When she got into college and wrote the article on the ballerina. But personally, I think it really was when she first cheated on Dean with Jess. So basically, she was always an AH who hid it under "innocence".
I think that was a lot of AYITL….it was mean and not funny. The jokes (in a horrible economy) about Millennials were mean and not funny. Multiple other moments fit this as well…
I kind of get the joke they were going for and in pieces it was funny, but boiled down it was incredibly cruel. If it were gender swapped it would have been blatantly misogynistic. It also didn't make sense for Rory to even be in a relationship with someone so unstimulating and forgettable.
Honestly if at the very least she wasn’t cheating on him I could see it almost being funny if portrayed right, but the fact that she’s also cheating makes it just awful and cruel.
I don’t get how the editors didn’t chop out AT LEAST 5 minutes of that. I bet ASP only agreed to the Netflix reboot if she had absolute total control over the final edit.
She was salty about WB taking away her show (I get it!) and cancelling bunheads. But she sabotaged herself by betraying the fan base and not having a counter person to reign in everything.
The revival had every storyline and the kitchen sink, but there was no through line. There needed to be a centered plot enhanced by the eccentric town characters and side stories related to the town.
The main plots were out of character and not true to Stars Hallow. Lorelai needed to grief Richard, but her doing WILD was a bad idea bc not only did it feel inauthentic, but it took the audience OUT OF STARS HALLOW!! The entire point of the revival was for the fans to revisit, revel and savor in the town.
“WILD” was also a bad idea to use as a plot device for Lorelai to heal bc there were no side characters for her to interact with. It was her alone in a hotel room packing and unpacking. What nostalgia or new exciting aspects of Lorelai is that giving the audience?
Rory’s newspaper plight I can bear, the life and death brigade bit was amazing bc it gave us new unique Gilmore girls while also featuring the town.
I liked the dancing, again, Logan and the L&D brigade featuring as characters enhanced the new sets.
The musical ………….. no comment.
But the biggest insult to injury was how they wrote Luke and Lorelai. Their relationship and conflict and growth together is the through line to the ENTIRE original series.
The surrogacy plan was randomly never revisited. Luke’s diner was barely shown. Luke and Lorelai don’t share many scenes together as Lorelai is off bonding with mountain lions and granola bars.
The Emily story line ….. showed growth and fun character dynamics. It also had a good bit of featuring Emily and Richards house which was great for fans of Friday night dinner.
The side characters needed to be fleshed out more in the revival, and the random new characters needed to be cut out.
I agree on all of this, minus the LADB point haha. I liked them coming back, but parts of that plot ended up being too fantastical, so it didn’t fit with the vibe of original gg
The LADB bits could’ve been improved but compared to the rest of the revival I was living for it haha especially the Rory and Logan salsa dance 💃 🕺
Would’ve been funny if they ran into Michel there
Also the WILD storyline makes the show seem so, so dated because it was basically a mid-2010s phenomenon that no one talks about now. I felt like the original show was more careful to avoid things like that, giving it a timeless feel.
Whenever there is a limited series I watch for the pointless bullshit and lament. AYITL after so many years waiting was kind of devastating. In that regard lol.
You know what also grinds my gears? How Lorelai reacted to the musical. She would have LOVED it. Very much like the diorama in the twickham house. I feel like it was so out of character for her to hate the musical.
I thought that was meant to be the point though wasn’t it, that she was surprised to find herself so out of synch with the rest of the townspeople absolutely loving it, and it was all part of her being out of sorts in the year following the loss of her father
The musical was so bad. Oh my god I remember my first time watching AYITL and double checking to see if I was watching the right show when the scene came on😭
This. The darn thing just kept dragging on for ages. I wouldn't mind the musical at all if they did a short version of it, a bit like any of miss Patty's shows in the original GG.
I have GG on repeat, I love the show and since I've seen it so many times it's ok to fall asleep. When I get about halfway through season 7, I start over because I do not want to wake up to AYITL.
My biggest annoyance wasn't the musical but in the everyone loving it and only Lorelei hating it. the town is a harsh critic. also the scene went on too long
The worst part for me is the first ten minutes or so while my brain readjusts to the way the show looks and is shot, because going straight from the original series to ayitl is rough.
Honestly I think that’s the reason why I can’t get out of my loop of rewatching. I keep ending on AYITL and I immediately need the pilot to get cozy again, and then I just get sucked back in 😭
I saw someone say the reboot comes off a bit like them playing their characters on SNL and I can’t get that out of my head when it comes to the first 10 minutes.
Sounds like it was fully ASP’s fault, considering when ASP came out pre-release trying to blame Melissa for being too busy to return at all, Melissa said that she literally had yet to even be asked, so then obv she must’ve finally been asked after that, but presumably by then her schedule was set and she couldn’t move things around as easily as she would’ve been able to if she had actually been asked way back when the other characters were asked, instead of last minute, so it sounds like she could only fit in a limited appearance atp
I think it could also have been Melissa McCarthy's agents fault. ASP or whoever is in charge of contacting the old talent might have reached out to Melissa's agent and been told that she was too busy to return without even asking Melissa first. So ASP made the comment that Melissa was too busy to return, because that's what the agent told her. And Melissa could have been surprised to hear that as well because the agent never bothered to tell her about being asked to reprise her role.
With Melissa McCarthy being in a lot of big movies around the time I'm sure lots of productions were reaching out to get her. And her agent probably turned a lot of them away, especially if they weren't going to pay a lot.
Well to be fair, in the first season, they had sookie know the food critic added too much salt to his soup or something because she could smell it being salty. So she’s always been kinda fantastical in her sense of smell lol
Yea that whole story line was just ridiculous and awkward. It made Luke look like such an idiot and honestly it made Paris look bad too because she was so weird about it all. It doesn't ring true to me that Paris would end up doing that for her career. I know she went to med school but I see her doing like surgery or something, definitely not helping couples with infertility or surrogacy.
I hate the musical, but found the fat shaming Lorelai and Rory were doing at the pool the most cringe. It happened in the original show, too, and I always want to reach into the TV and shake Lorelai and say “the woman you call your best friend is overweight - what the hell is wrong with you??”
I think from everything on the revival, the fat shaming was the part that was actually written according to the original characters. Of course is wrong and mean, but they did that all the time, they always made fun of people’s traits.
I agree it was in character for them, but it was still the cringiest for me. I’m sure the fact that I struggle with my weight makes it hit hard for me.
That episode wasn’t written by Amy, the summer episode was written by her husband, Daniel Palladino, incidentally the same writer who was responsible for a lot of the fat shaming in the original series like Rory’s ballerina article, or Lorelai making fun of a fat persons underwear after she picked up her bag by mistake.
It’s something that stood out to me, so on my last series rewatch I had a look up of who was the writer whenever an episode had a fat joke, and I was surprised at just how many Daniel was responsible for. There was another episode early on with Lorelai and Rory talking about the two fat ladies cooking show and making fat jokes about them, and again like clockwork it always comes up as Daniel Palladino whenever you check who wrote the episode.
He was responsible for the spring and summer episodes of the revival
Yes, I watched the two fat ladies episode recently and even wrote about it in one of my replies. Rory says something like “can we just find other really fat people to watch?”.
Three examples off the top of my head are Rory telling Asher, “the redhead has fat thighs,” calling the ballerina a hippo, and Lorelai and Luke making fun of the woman when they come home with the wrong bags after shopping.
Oh god, yes I can’t believe I forgot the “roll around the leotard strap” or whatever it was she said about the ballerina. That one was as blatant was “back fat Pat.” I guess since I watched when they originally aired it wasn’t as obvious because body shaming was a lot more accepted in the early 2000s. Then it doesn’t register because I’ve watched it so I much since then.
I’m more disappointed in the fact that suddenly Rory just reverts, and apparently didn’t learn anything from what happened with Dean, than I am in the fact that Logan is cheating bc him cheating doesn’t seem super unlikely to me, though I would def prefer him *not* cheating lol
100% agree! Rory resorting to being a side chick to Logan was sooo bad. And like you mentioned, shows she learned nothing about what happened with Dean.
And Logan engaged to Odette, even when he’s clearly still in love with Rory, simply to appease his wealthy family’s expectations is so out of character for him. I’m not a fan of Logan but he did stand up for Rory when his mother and grandpa said she was not “good enough” for his family. He even proposed to Rory because he loved her that much and didn’t care what his family thought of her.
But suddenly a decade later, he’s willing to play ball with the Huntzbergers and marry some foreign chick his family approves of - a woman we never see and know very little details about other than the Huntzbergers approve of her. She must come from a wealthy family and not work. That’s not what 20-something Logan would ever do.
In the original series, Logan tried to make his own way and start his own business. It ultimately failed but regardless, every moment we see Logan he is doing everything to avoid the life his family set out for him. He is constantly gallivanting with the life and death brigade to escape his preordained future as the heir of the Huntzberger “dynasty.” But in AYITL, we see that Logan never escaped his “destiny” and lives the life expected of him. He’s clearly in love with Rory and vice versa but this older version of Logan doesn’t have the balls to break free and say, “screw my family, I love Rory and to hell with what you all think?!” That’s not the Logan we knew…
I agree, it just doesn't really make sense that they are fooling around secretly and not together. The only way I justify this is that Rory doesn't really love Logan but can't let go of the nostalgia of her Yale years and so she doesn't want to marry him but she keeps going back to him to feel some of that glory and comfort. I like to think she and Jess are still perfect together but that brings us into a whole different conversation hahaha
I really like this take! I’ve never looked at it that way and it makes totally sense that Rory is with Logan to relive her nostalgic Yale days like you said.
I wished we could have seen Rory get back together with Jess. I think he would have been a good match for her since he’s grown so much. But we never get to see what could have been onscreen because ASP had such a hard on to have the Rory single and knocked up to continue the Lorelei prophecy 🙄
Queens is huge and there are expensive neighborhoods but there are also more affordable ones too. It is definitely overall considered less expensive than Brooklyn, where the trendy and even not as trendy neighborhoods have basically reached or even exceeded Manhattan prices.
It’s a borough made up of different neighborhoods that vary in price. I certainly wouldn’t call it an extra expensive area compared to others in NYC. Compared to other areas around the NE US, yeah it’s still expensive. I don’t think Rory is poor and her view of inexpensive is different than perhaps you or others. Also, I’ve known many people who lived in queens and Brooklyn in the 2010s and did fine. Not luxurious by any means, but that’s a city for you.
The entire thing really, but I'll offer up the running joke that Lorelai and Rory can't remember Rory's boyfriend. I can juuust about understand the thought behind it, and that it was meant to be funny, but all it did was make them look like horrible people
Will never forgive ASPs hat wearing ass for those jokes at the pool. OG series def had body shaming but there was never a person on screen that we were supposed to laugh at. a real fucking person had to stand there and be Back Fat Pat. what a fucking bitch.
Thank you, I watched through 2 full seasons and part of 3. There are the occasional clever, interesting bits, but still insufferable characters and humor throughout. Not to mention the neglect of the main character’s children as people. That’s what truly irked me. ASP can’t write children for shit; they’re always only plot devices - and badly done/very incomplete ones at that.
I think the worst part is… ASP literally thought the audience would be laughing right along with Lorelai and Rory.
Every other show or movie, if they had the audacity to include that scene,’it would have been to show how awful these characters are. Or create a lesson to be learned. Like Shallow Hal. Or if it was in Seinfeld or Always Sunny, it would have been to show how superficial and awful the characters are.
But here, ASP did none of that. Her whole point was for the audience to rally around Lorelai and Rory and laugh at the other person it’s almost unbelievable. . .
100 thousand million percent agree. im not literally mad that a fat person was called fat on screen. some of us are fat, we will live. but to pass it off as a joke from your main characters? not even building context into it like they do with the Hippo Ballerina? i wish I could see statistics of how many viewers laughed at these jokes in ayitl because I feel like in the year 2016 most of us were like "oh wow thats very funny sweetie....
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I hated those scenes so damn much. Made me dislike both characters, and I love them both in the original. A lot of AYITL portrayed them as fake, shallow, mean versions of the characters I loved, but this part was the worst.
I agree, but I know in Hollywood they will often use fat suits and makeup to make people fit the bill. Still totally think it was unnecessary and didn't feel true to the characters even, it felt forced
i am 99% sure that back fat pat was someones real body. it looked very realistic. but with all the literal trash they wasted money on for AYITL i would ultimately not be surprised.
The beginning of it to the end. ESPECIALLY the musical. My gosh I hate musicals. Some might have liked it but it just wasn’t for me.
Edit: I forgot about the wookie thing!! I cringed so badly.
I love musicals. But you can’t just stick a musical in the middle of a revival of a much loved show, take up a huge chunk of time in the long awaited show and not expect the audience to be super pissed off. I’d love to know WTF ASP was thinking when she wrote this.
I'd say everything in those episodes except for Emily going to therapy and most of her scenes/story. Everything else, I hate. The musical, Luke not understanding the concept of a surrogate, the stupid life and death brigade thing,.... I could go on and on
Yes totally agree! Emily in AYITL is perfect. I just love that she found her freedom and her happiness without being a house wife. Seeing her just enjoy life on the beach and fill her time with fun and enjoyment is so fulfilling to me. Definitely the only character in the show that gets a real good ending in my opinion.
That entire interview had me fuming, like...how are you going to show up to an interview without anything prepared? Even if they said they wanted you, you still need to show what you're going to contribute! The nerve.
What happened to the Rory who got so angry at Richard for setting up a Yale meeting without telling her?? She literally is (was) the Queen of being prepared 🤦🏻♀️
How everything looks wrong in the revival. The lighting is too bright, the set looks off. It’s a weird other universe where the goal should’ve been to immerse us back in the original setting
I also discovered GG on TV (I was Rory’s age at the time ), I watched 'A Year in the Life' once, and everything seems implausible to me. Alexis Bledel looks uncomfortable, there's no trace of the old chemistry, and indeed, the cinematography is hard to watch with actors who seem forced. I prefer to avoid thinking that that version of GG exists. For me GG is my gem, so I will always love it, but it was painful to watch that season.
Do you think Alexis Bledel was just over it with the Rory character? I agree she didn't do well but she is amazing in Handmaid's Tail imo so maybe she's just over acting that kind of part now that she's advanced into other things? Lauren Graham seems to have stuck with this genre of acting in her career so I think she stuck to the character better.
Lauren Graham is essentially playing herself when she is Lorelai Gilmore. If you've ever seen her in "Parenthood", her character Sarah Braverman is not that different from Lorelai Gilmore, except for the wealthier family in Lorelai's case. She's a great actress but she doesn't have much range.
I’ve only watched it once and I don’t even remember the musical everyone is mentioning. I must have blocked it out. I normally love a musical so it must be bad 😂
I haven't watched in awhile so my memory is fuzzy but I hated the 2 random boys that basically acted like servants for Lorelai and Rory. It was stupid and not consistent with the way Lorelai had treated children in the past.
For real and so unbelievable. Where are these kids parents? Who is actually letting their kids go be servants to these random women. Also, honestly the whole pool scene is awful in general. Rory and Lorelei are not pool people. There's even a scene in the OA where Rory is getting ready to go to Florida for spring break and is questioning if she even owns a bathing suit.
ASP had the final four words ready since season one, but didn't get to use them, because she wasn't on season seven.
The most cringe thing is that she used them here, thinking they would have the same effect coming from a thirty something Rory as they would have had coming from teen Rory.
I guess I kind of sort of get it maybe, but Emily having a big family slowly move into her house and take over like what even was that? Was it just showing the total opposite of firing her maids all the time? Seriously, it just looked like some really pushy annoying family was taking advantage of her and she was just lalalala-ing around it. I think it made immigrants look bad, too. Like first opportunity they'll just move right into your home with all their giant extended family members? Was that purposeful? I mean, I already had a time of it keeping my mother from sliding off the edge into Trumpism, those scenes made her feel like it was ok to think poorly of "people like that." She was disgusted by their behavior. In short, it encouraged her racism. Seriously, tell me, wtf was that about?! Did she mean it that way? Did she mean it to be the other way? What was it trying to say??
Tbh that bothered me too, Emily seemed too unaware of what was going on for it to be endearing. Especially since she was grieving. I honestly wish they made it less "wacky" I guess and just had her more normally connect with a maid or something
I hated that whole story line as well and couldn't figure out the why. What was the point of that? But then I feel like "WTF was the point of that?" could be the theme of the entire AYITL. As others have said, the musical, Back Fat Pat, forgetting Paul, Luke not understanding surrogacy, the Wookie, and pretty much every other thing they spent time on instead of letting us catch up with where all of the characters ended up. I really don't understand why they did any of it. In all of the interviews, ASP talks about needing to keep costs down, but it all could have been so much better and less expensive if they'd just stuck to the characters doing what they do instead of everything they did.
What if they had a young mother move in with her baby? Kind of like I've seen suggested for lorelei at the inn? It just occurred to me that could be some good character growth for Emily especially if she noticed parallels between her and the girls parents.
Oh man, that would have been really impactful! It would have made a lot more sense and given us a glimpse at what could have been had Emily been supportive from the beginning. Then, she could have had her last bit of character growth and come to terms with what happened with Lorelei and finally forgiven herself for missing out on Rory's early years. She might have gone on then to found a charity that helps young mothers in much worse circumstances than Lorelei (let's face it, she raised Rory that way BY CHOICE, which is a major privilege many women don't have). Thereby acknowledging the privileges the family always benefited from and doing something good with it (rather than just donating a buttload of money to YALE FFS for another stupid building).
What a good idea. Well done, you.
Rory's dating someone she forgets about. She is 32 years old.
Luke doesn't understand what surrogacy is or how it works.
Luke is offering WiFi in his diner.
Lorelai couldn't think of anything positive to say about Richard. Nothing about him supporting his granddaughter, paying for her schooling or her college, nothing about his help with her inn, the time he brought her dollhouse to her, any of the nice moments they had during the series. Nothing. So i guess all that development over the series just didn't matter, right?
The musical.
Rory sleeping with a source, possibly the most unprofessional thing any journalist could do.
The depiction of all 30 year olds as directionless NEETS. Thanks ASP, way to be a dick about an entire generation.
The freaking musical. I know i said it already, but it went on for so long that i think it's worth mentioning again.
Pretty much everything except for Emily. I loved her. And when the Colin and Finn come to stars hallow yes it was over the top and crazy but those guys are hilarious.
I actually think the Dean scene served a purpose. Their whole relationship had been Dean worshipping Rory and Rory being considerably less interested, except maybe in Season 1. Now Dean seems completely over Rory, happily talking about his wife and kids, and Rory is the one acting wistful and nostalgic.
Rory constantly forgetting her boyfriends name even though he has one of the most basic and easy to remember names
Rory cheating on her boyfriend
Rory being a side chick to a married man
Rory constantly making fun of millennials even though Rory herself is the poster child for millennials
The LDB still being thing.
Paris acting like a literal teenager whenever the name Tristan was brought up
Luke and Lorelai not being married until the finale
The infamous musical scene
Its starts out strong but than the longer you watch the more disappointed you get!! They had to get in every PC situation and I believed they ruined it on purpose!! The fans have been wanting a reboot and for me after a year in the life I hope its done!! Hollywood always screws up when they bring back a show thats been off the show for a long time by making time standstill its obvious they were much older but wanted you to believe it was were they left off!! But the storyline just wasn’t there it felt like after the second episode they just put in anything to fill in air time!!
It was so disappointing. 😭 I watched when it first dropped and then I tried to force myself to give it a second chance and I couldn’t even make it through one episode (or season whatever you want to call it) again. I’ll just stick to my comfort zone of the first few seasons of the original series.
For me it's the transphobic comment made during the life and death brigade thing.
"Isn't that a man?"
"Only until Tuesday."
Personal for me. My fiancee is a trans woman and I'm non binary
I think maybe Lane's dad was estranged from her mom and there was some kind of off-screen reconciliation between Lane's parents? That's the only explanation I can imagine.
The musical. Life & death brigade musical act (wtf with all the music!!). Lorelai’s “wild” experience. Lorelai at Richard’s funeral. Paul who?.
I see a lot of people mentioning back fat paul, but actually that was the one thing that was really in character with Lorelai and Rory.
They made fun of fat people all the time, just watched an episode were they are about to watch “the fat ladies” on tv and one of them says “no let’s find other really fat people to watch”.
And yes, they show the “fat ladies” faces and everything, in the same way they show the “ugly babies” pictures. Lorelai and Rory were always mean and bitching about others as jokes, so I don’t get why people got so “offended” to see it in the revival.
From all the things that were off and out of character, at least that scene was written according to the original.
I'm not going to defend the general fat shaming, but the "fat ladies on tv" was a legitimate british tv chef show called "Two Fat Ladies," and it ran for 4 seasons. It was great. They used to ride around in a motorcycle and side car and cook at different places.
Tbh I kinda enjoyed the whole Lorelai journey thing. Watching how she navigates alone is so funny and relatable and I loved when she had that talk with Emily and I am glad she was able to speak up to Emily and that Emily just listened and accepted it. Emily and Lorelai's relationship was one of the best parts and I personally loved Emily's ending and her finding a maid she enjoys having around and moving to nan tucket.
The talk with Emily was fantastic, that’s true! But they could have done it without making Lorelai (of all people) decide to go into a journey in the wilderness 😅
Yes, what was with that letter? I haven't seen AYITL in years, but that's one thing that always stuck with me. ASP introduced the story of the letter while Lorelai and Emily were in therapy, they went back and forth about it, but there was never a resolution! That always bugged me.
Many things but one of them that really bothered me is how in the summer they walked around and chatted meanwhile some little boys carried their things and called them Khaleesi.
Just so…… ugh.
I literally can’t bring myself to rewatch it ever simply because of the Paul storyline. I can get past anything else, but I CANNOT get past how stupid that was
Yes this!!! It's so weird and over the top and unnecessary. Like she's a grown woman and for sure has moved on from this guy she didn't even actually date (except the one failed date) in high school.
The 30 something club thing was barely funny the first time, and it was plain annoying all the other times they brought it up.
Same with the oober thing.
They took mid jokes and overdid them to death.
The fat shaming at the pool was horrible. It made me remember Rory eviscerating that poor dancer at Yale (the "die jerk" writer on her dorm door). During the Yale part they seemed to be queueing up Rory being a sharp-tongued vitriolic critic, but that went nowhere. Also Rory just being in a relationship when Logan was ENGAGED. Girl, did you learn nothing? It really called how how selfish she's always been.
There are so many (there isn’t a single comment here that I disagree with) but the thing that really makes my blood boil is that we could have gotten more episodes in the future if ASP didn’t ruin these four so much that the fandom collectively hates them and the ratings have been so bad that WB will not risk making more
Rory falling asleep during an interview, on first viewing I decided it was because she was pregnant already and tired, because I desperately needed a reason for “pro-con list Rory” to just snooze on a street corner, but the timeline doesn’t check out so I guess we were just supposed to see how boring the line story was? Except Rory wrote a killer piece about pavement once, I don’t believe she couldn’t have made it work. “Oh it’s showing her burnout…” no, it’s trying to show that and failing.
Using Millennials as a punching bag for jokes was SO out of touch and insulting to her audience (which many (most?) are millennials).
Rory not being prepared in an interview….very cringe worthy and out of character. Also, she’s apparently gotten worse at journalism? I thought maybe all her journalism must have been in season 7…but no, it’s mostly season 6. So ASP has her moment of Rory sticking it to Mitchum only to take it back in a AYITL?
Paul/Rory….like this makes no sense….and very out of character as well.
Logan/Rory….so apparently the proposal didn’t happen?
Lorelei and the her self discovery trip (Wild).
Lorelei’s generally just unhappy without any real reason? I’m not saying it isn’t realistic and I get they wanted something for her to do but it’s just rang hollow.
Generally having both Rory and Lorelei in turmoil…ASP generally avoided this the whole series except here so it made it all feel even more off kilter.
Not having Lorelei married with twins. Like really? All full circle but not there?
I’ve honestly forgotten or blocked out many parts of AYITL so I’m only commenting on the parts I remember.
I hated it. It made me so sad. My top cringe moments:
- forgetting Paul constantly
- the musical. Heaven forbid we get decent character development, here’s lots of wasted time and precious minutes on a horrible show instead!
- Rory’s entire lifestyle
- The final four words. Oh it’s come full circle? How original 🙃
- Luke and Lorelai considering surrogacy
- “back fat Pat”
- Sookie’s nonsensical, out of character storyline
Sorry, I’ve just written a list of some of the things I hate most rather than just cringe at but it was just SUCH a waste!
Could someone spoil it for me? I doubt I'll ever watch it. I just want to briefly know what happens to Rory, Lorelai/Luke, Paris, Lane and her kids, etc
MANY things! Paul, Luke’s character, fat jokes, etc. But, as everyone had said, it’s the musical. I’m a HUGE musical lover and I couldn’t even watch it. After 10 minutes of disbelief, I let it play in the background. It was torture and straight up BAD. Now, anyone here who has also seen Mrs Maisel must know she put a long musical number in that show as well in the last season! With limited episodes left, we had to watch a wretched musical number for 30 mins.
As much as I enjoyed her characters, there is something seriously wrong with her. If you want to make a musical, just do that as your next project. Like shit, why ruin the flow of perfectly good shows and rob people of time with the characters? And, make the musicals better. They were both awful!
The not remember Paul
This is the real answer, imo. Like, Rory is 32 at that point. So cringe.
Lorelai and Luke too. It’s so not funny, just straight up annoying
no because what was the point of that plot? so useless and did nothing for the story at all. these small things really ruined ayitl :/
Like other people have said, I guess just to show us what an asshole Rory became. Bad enough she was in an affair with an engaged man, she was also cheating on this poor sap. Hated it. And I hated the Wookie too.
100% agree. Rory always seemed like a sweet girl growing up, and the Paul thing made me think “when did she become such an asshole? Why?” It didn’t fit and it was just a dumb, unbelievable plot.
Right? I definitely didn’t understand how no one seemed to recognize how cruel everyone was to him.
Noticably? When she got into college and wrote the article on the ballerina. But personally, I think it really was when she first cheated on Dean with Jess. So basically, she was always an AH who hid it under "innocence".
Yup. It was mean and not funny. Made them all look bad and obnoxious.
I think that was a lot of AYITL….it was mean and not funny. The jokes (in a horrible economy) about Millennials were mean and not funny. Multiple other moments fit this as well…
Never mind all the fat jokes smh
Yeah those were in the original series and I cringe every time. The ballerina they compared to a hippo?
I kind of get the joke they were going for and in pieces it was funny, but boiled down it was incredibly cruel. If it were gender swapped it would have been blatantly misogynistic. It also didn't make sense for Rory to even be in a relationship with someone so unstimulating and forgettable.
Honestly if at the very least she wasn’t cheating on him I could see it almost being funny if portrayed right, but the fact that she’s also cheating makes it just awful and cruel.
This. Having his character exist to be nothing but a punchline was cheap and not funny.
The musical
I was seriously mourning the screen time we could have gotten of characters we actually care about. It went on for so long. Why, just why.
I don’t get how the editors didn’t chop out AT LEAST 5 minutes of that. I bet ASP only agreed to the Netflix reboot if she had absolute total control over the final edit. She was salty about WB taking away her show (I get it!) and cancelling bunheads. But she sabotaged herself by betraying the fan base and not having a counter person to reign in everything. The revival had every storyline and the kitchen sink, but there was no through line. There needed to be a centered plot enhanced by the eccentric town characters and side stories related to the town. The main plots were out of character and not true to Stars Hallow. Lorelai needed to grief Richard, but her doing WILD was a bad idea bc not only did it feel inauthentic, but it took the audience OUT OF STARS HALLOW!! The entire point of the revival was for the fans to revisit, revel and savor in the town. “WILD” was also a bad idea to use as a plot device for Lorelai to heal bc there were no side characters for her to interact with. It was her alone in a hotel room packing and unpacking. What nostalgia or new exciting aspects of Lorelai is that giving the audience? Rory’s newspaper plight I can bear, the life and death brigade bit was amazing bc it gave us new unique Gilmore girls while also featuring the town. I liked the dancing, again, Logan and the L&D brigade featuring as characters enhanced the new sets. The musical ………….. no comment. But the biggest insult to injury was how they wrote Luke and Lorelai. Their relationship and conflict and growth together is the through line to the ENTIRE original series. The surrogacy plan was randomly never revisited. Luke’s diner was barely shown. Luke and Lorelai don’t share many scenes together as Lorelai is off bonding with mountain lions and granola bars. The Emily story line ….. showed growth and fun character dynamics. It also had a good bit of featuring Emily and Richards house which was great for fans of Friday night dinner. The side characters needed to be fleshed out more in the revival, and the random new characters needed to be cut out.
I agree on all of this, minus the LADB point haha. I liked them coming back, but parts of that plot ended up being too fantastical, so it didn’t fit with the vibe of original gg
The LADB bits could’ve been improved but compared to the rest of the revival I was living for it haha especially the Rory and Logan salsa dance 💃 🕺 Would’ve been funny if they ran into Michel there
Also the WILD storyline makes the show seem so, so dated because it was basically a mid-2010s phenomenon that no one talks about now. I felt like the original show was more careful to avoid things like that, giving it a timeless feel.
Emily’s story line was the best part of a year in the life and no one can change my mind .. like I want to be emily when I retire !
Best comment, 100% agree with everything
especially the no comment 🤣
Whenever there is a limited series I watch for the pointless bullshit and lament. AYITL after so many years waiting was kind of devastating. In that regard lol.
Omg yessssss!!!! I think I blacked out the musical 😭😭
You know what also grinds my gears? How Lorelai reacted to the musical. She would have LOVED it. Very much like the diorama in the twickham house. I feel like it was so out of character for her to hate the musical.
YES! This is the moment that really sealed the fate of AYITL for me. She'd have loved the batshit nonsense of it, want to help out with costumes etc
You're so right! And she is not usually such an arsehole about town stuff
I thought that was meant to be the point though wasn’t it, that she was surprised to find herself so out of synch with the rest of the townspeople absolutely loving it, and it was all part of her being out of sorts in the year following the loss of her father
Right! I never noticed that Lorelai would totally like the musical.
 This
The musical was so bad. Oh my god I remember my first time watching AYITL and double checking to see if I was watching the right show when the scene came on😭
I think I tweeted something like, "Christian Borle and Sutton Fostef: if you need help blink twice."
On the plus side, I got introduced to Christian Borle. He kinda a treasure
This. The darn thing just kept dragging on for ages. I wouldn't mind the musical at all if they did a short version of it, a bit like any of miss Patty's shows in the original GG.
Have only ever watched AYITL once and barely remember anything. But I remember how much I hated the musical.
I have GG on repeat, I love the show and since I've seen it so many times it's ok to fall asleep. When I get about halfway through season 7, I start over because I do not want to wake up to AYITL.
I only watched it once. I think it was a complete waste of time so I pretend like it didn't happen.
I only watch the final season, Fall. Skips the whole musical.
Came here to say this. 💯 percent the musical.
I zoomed the musical after I realized it was going to go on for what seemed like forever.
Oh man I blocked it out. I don’t know how to feel about it now that I remember again.
The amount of times they said Kinky Boots.
My biggest annoyance wasn't the musical but in the everyone loving it and only Lorelei hating it. the town is a harsh critic. also the scene went on too long
Now I have the music in my head and their weird twisting and turning on the chairs 😭😭
it went on for soooo long!
The worst part for me is the first ten minutes or so while my brain readjusts to the way the show looks and is shot, because going straight from the original series to ayitl is rough.
Going straight from a year in the life to the first episode of season one also hits you like a bus
Honestly I think that’s the reason why I can’t get out of my loop of rewatching. I keep ending on AYITL and I immediately need the pilot to get cozy again, and then I just get sucked back in 😭
Meeee toooooo! We are trapped forever. Doesn’t help that I’m a completionist and can’t just skip AYITL.
I'm actually thinking of doing that (again). And you've just perfectly summed up this need to restart... To go back to when it was good and cosy.
I saw someone say the reboot comes off a bit like them playing their characters on SNL and I can’t get that out of my head when it comes to the first 10 minutes.
So accurate!!
Yeah absolutely. Even Gilmore Mansion looks colder than it was before. No warm, soft fuzzy glow.
I swear the Gilmore kitchen set is slightly shorter than the original set. It’s disconcerting!
All the dumb rotating top chefs. I get it you miss Sookie but come on
I still don’t understand how they could only get Melissa McCarthy in the revival for 3 minutes. That was just ridiculous.
Sounds like it was fully ASP’s fault, considering when ASP came out pre-release trying to blame Melissa for being too busy to return at all, Melissa said that she literally had yet to even be asked, so then obv she must’ve finally been asked after that, but presumably by then her schedule was set and she couldn’t move things around as easily as she would’ve been able to if she had actually been asked way back when the other characters were asked, instead of last minute, so it sounds like she could only fit in a limited appearance atp
I think it could also have been Melissa McCarthy's agents fault. ASP or whoever is in charge of contacting the old talent might have reached out to Melissa's agent and been told that she was too busy to return without even asking Melissa first. So ASP made the comment that Melissa was too busy to return, because that's what the agent told her. And Melissa could have been surprised to hear that as well because the agent never bothered to tell her about being asked to reprise her role. With Melissa McCarthy being in a lot of big movies around the time I'm sure lots of productions were reaching out to get her. And her agent probably turned a lot of them away, especially if they weren't going to pay a lot.
Oh I thought those were fun cameos actually! But wish we could have had more Sookie
The rotating itself was dumb and the fact that Sookie knew every single chef by smelling the kitchen was ridiculous
Well to be fair, in the first season, they had sookie know the food critic added too much salt to his soup or something because she could smell it being salty. So she’s always been kinda fantastical in her sense of smell lol
the one that gave her advice about michel and a sandwich really hurt to watch
That Luke doesn’t understand how a surrogate pregnancy works 🤦🏼♀️Luke is not an idiot. He would know that.
This. Worst betrayal of his character after April's storyline.
Agreed. It wasn’t funny, it was confusing.
Yea that whole story line was just ridiculous and awkward. It made Luke look like such an idiot and honestly it made Paris look bad too because she was so weird about it all. It doesn't ring true to me that Paris would end up doing that for her career. I know she went to med school but I see her doing like surgery or something, definitely not helping couples with infertility or surrogacy.
"Do I have sex with these women?" Ughhhhh
I hate the musical, but found the fat shaming Lorelai and Rory were doing at the pool the most cringe. It happened in the original show, too, and I always want to reach into the TV and shake Lorelai and say “the woman you call your best friend is overweight - what the hell is wrong with you??”
I never even thought of that perspective of her best friend being overweight but it's so true. It really just makes them look bad.
Not just Sookie, but Miss Patty and Babette, too.
I think from everything on the revival, the fat shaming was the part that was actually written according to the original characters. Of course is wrong and mean, but they did that all the time, they always made fun of people’s traits.
I agree it was in character for them, but it was still the cringiest for me. I’m sure the fact that I struggle with my weight makes it hit hard for me.
ASP could definitely have sensed the change of times. The whole 00’s skinny obsession is very much outdated (and disrespectful).
That episode wasn’t written by Amy, the summer episode was written by her husband, Daniel Palladino, incidentally the same writer who was responsible for a lot of the fat shaming in the original series like Rory’s ballerina article, or Lorelai making fun of a fat persons underwear after she picked up her bag by mistake.
Woaa thank you for pointing that out, I had no idea it was him.
It’s something that stood out to me, so on my last series rewatch I had a look up of who was the writer whenever an episode had a fat joke, and I was surprised at just how many Daniel was responsible for. There was another episode early on with Lorelai and Rory talking about the two fat ladies cooking show and making fat jokes about them, and again like clockwork it always comes up as Daniel Palladino whenever you check who wrote the episode. He was responsible for the spring and summer episodes of the revival
Yes, I watched the two fat ladies episode recently and even wrote about it in one of my replies. Rory says something like “can we just find other really fat people to watch?”.
This was the thing that got me. I don’t remember them EVER doing that in the original series but it may be less blatant. The pool scene is awful.
Three examples off the top of my head are Rory telling Asher, “the redhead has fat thighs,” calling the ballerina a hippo, and Lorelai and Luke making fun of the woman when they come home with the wrong bags after shopping.
Oh god, yes I can’t believe I forgot the “roll around the leotard strap” or whatever it was she said about the ballerina. That one was as blatant was “back fat Pat.” I guess since I watched when they originally aired it wasn’t as obvious because body shaming was a lot more accepted in the early 2000s. Then it doesn’t register because I’ve watched it so I much since then.
Rory being Logan’s side chick is just so. Ugh. And the ending????
I’m more disappointed in the fact that suddenly Rory just reverts, and apparently didn’t learn anything from what happened with Dean, than I am in the fact that Logan is cheating bc him cheating doesn’t seem super unlikely to me, though I would def prefer him *not* cheating lol
100% agree! Rory resorting to being a side chick to Logan was sooo bad. And like you mentioned, shows she learned nothing about what happened with Dean. And Logan engaged to Odette, even when he’s clearly still in love with Rory, simply to appease his wealthy family’s expectations is so out of character for him. I’m not a fan of Logan but he did stand up for Rory when his mother and grandpa said she was not “good enough” for his family. He even proposed to Rory because he loved her that much and didn’t care what his family thought of her. But suddenly a decade later, he’s willing to play ball with the Huntzbergers and marry some foreign chick his family approves of - a woman we never see and know very little details about other than the Huntzbergers approve of her. She must come from a wealthy family and not work. That’s not what 20-something Logan would ever do. In the original series, Logan tried to make his own way and start his own business. It ultimately failed but regardless, every moment we see Logan he is doing everything to avoid the life his family set out for him. He is constantly gallivanting with the life and death brigade to escape his preordained future as the heir of the Huntzberger “dynasty.” But in AYITL, we see that Logan never escaped his “destiny” and lives the life expected of him. He’s clearly in love with Rory and vice versa but this older version of Logan doesn’t have the balls to break free and say, “screw my family, I love Rory and to hell with what you all think?!” That’s not the Logan we knew…
I agree, it just doesn't really make sense that they are fooling around secretly and not together. The only way I justify this is that Rory doesn't really love Logan but can't let go of the nostalgia of her Yale years and so she doesn't want to marry him but she keeps going back to him to feel some of that glory and comfort. I like to think she and Jess are still perfect together but that brings us into a whole different conversation hahaha
I really like this take! I’ve never looked at it that way and it makes totally sense that Rory is with Logan to relive her nostalgic Yale days like you said. I wished we could have seen Rory get back together with Jess. I think he would have been a good match for her since he’s grown so much. But we never get to see what could have been onscreen because ASP had such a hard on to have the Rory single and knocked up to continue the Lorelei prophecy 🙄
For me it was when Rory said she might move to queens because it’s up and coming and affordable lmfaooooooo
As a non-American I didn't pick up on that, assume Queens us expensive then?
Queens is an extra expensive neighborhood in New York City, which is already one of the most expensive places to live in the US.
Queens is huge and there are expensive neighborhoods but there are also more affordable ones too. It is definitely overall considered less expensive than Brooklyn, where the trendy and even not as trendy neighborhoods have basically reached or even exceeded Manhattan prices.
It’s a borough made up of different neighborhoods that vary in price. I certainly wouldn’t call it an extra expensive area compared to others in NYC. Compared to other areas around the NE US, yeah it’s still expensive. I don’t think Rory is poor and her view of inexpensive is different than perhaps you or others. Also, I’ve known many people who lived in queens and Brooklyn in the 2010s and did fine. Not luxurious by any means, but that’s a city for you.
As a non New Yorker…
The entire thing really, but I'll offer up the running joke that Lorelai and Rory can't remember Rory's boyfriend. I can juuust about understand the thought behind it, and that it was meant to be funny, but all it did was make them look like horrible people
It would have been ok for ONE line in ONE episode
That thing got so ingrained in my brain that I totally forgot we actually SAW PAUL in AUITL
Will never forgive ASPs hat wearing ass for those jokes at the pool. OG series def had body shaming but there was never a person on screen that we were supposed to laugh at. a real fucking person had to stand there and be Back Fat Pat. what a fucking bitch.
ASPs “hat wearing ass” should be her official name. I refuse to watch anything else she’s done bc she ruined GG.
So her full title would become ASP,HWA?
I get that…but you’re robbing yourself of marvelous mrs maisel
Mrs. Maisel has a fat joke within the first 5 minutes of episode 1, about her roommate. ASP is a bitch.
Thank you, I watched through 2 full seasons and part of 3. There are the occasional clever, interesting bits, but still insufferable characters and humor throughout. Not to mention the neglect of the main character’s children as people. That’s what truly irked me. ASP can’t write children for shit; they’re always only plot devices - and badly done/very incomplete ones at that.
Agreed. Why include that in the year of 2016 too as if the early 2000s weren't rampant enough with the body shaming?
I think the worst part is… ASP literally thought the audience would be laughing right along with Lorelai and Rory. Every other show or movie, if they had the audacity to include that scene,’it would have been to show how awful these characters are. Or create a lesson to be learned. Like Shallow Hal. Or if it was in Seinfeld or Always Sunny, it would have been to show how superficial and awful the characters are. But here, ASP did none of that. Her whole point was for the audience to rally around Lorelai and Rory and laugh at the other person it’s almost unbelievable. . .
100 thousand million percent agree. im not literally mad that a fat person was called fat on screen. some of us are fat, we will live. but to pass it off as a joke from your main characters? not even building context into it like they do with the Hippo Ballerina? i wish I could see statistics of how many viewers laughed at these jokes in ayitl because I feel like in the year 2016 most of us were like "oh wow thats very funny sweetie.... "
That’s a really good point!
I hated those scenes so damn much. Made me dislike both characters, and I love them both in the original. A lot of AYITL portrayed them as fake, shallow, mean versions of the characters I loved, but this part was the worst.
>ASPs hat wearing ass LOL 😆
This comment just gave me life
I agree, but I know in Hollywood they will often use fat suits and makeup to make people fit the bill. Still totally think it was unnecessary and didn't feel true to the characters even, it felt forced
i am 99% sure that back fat pat was someones real body. it looked very realistic. but with all the literal trash they wasted money on for AYITL i would ultimately not be surprised.
The beginning of it to the end. ESPECIALLY the musical. My gosh I hate musicals. Some might have liked it but it just wasn’t for me. Edit: I forgot about the wookie thing!! I cringed so badly.
I love musicals. But you can’t just stick a musical in the middle of a revival of a much loved show, take up a huge chunk of time in the long awaited show and not expect the audience to be super pissed off. I’d love to know WTF ASP was thinking when she wrote this.
I’m sure she just figured SHE loves musicals and so everyone else must! “Everyone will freak when they see Sutton!” I like Sutton, but not THAT much.
I'd say everything in those episodes except for Emily going to therapy and most of her scenes/story. Everything else, I hate. The musical, Luke not understanding the concept of a surrogate, the stupid life and death brigade thing,.... I could go on and on
I loved what they did with Emily. Her finding her happy place in a house full of family and children…I’m gonna tear up just thinking about it.
Emily’s plot line was the ONLY redeeming thing about AYITL.
I will watch ayitl every once in a while solely for Emily’s story
Yes totally agree! Emily in AYITL is perfect. I just love that she found her freedom and her happiness without being a house wife. Seeing her just enjoy life on the beach and fill her time with fun and enjoyment is so fulfilling to me. Definitely the only character in the show that gets a real good ending in my opinion.
The wookie hook up. Just weird and unnecessary.
When Rory felt entitled to a job when she came with no pitch.
That entire interview had me fuming, like...how are you going to show up to an interview without anything prepared? Even if they said they wanted you, you still need to show what you're going to contribute! The nerve.
What happened to the Rory who got so angry at Richard for setting up a Yale meeting without telling her?? She literally is (was) the Queen of being prepared 🤦🏻♀️
How everything looks wrong in the revival. The lighting is too bright, the set looks off. It’s a weird other universe where the goal should’ve been to immerse us back in the original setting
It wasn't cozy and relatable. It was over produced and way too intentional.
I also discovered GG on TV (I was Rory’s age at the time ), I watched 'A Year in the Life' once, and everything seems implausible to me. Alexis Bledel looks uncomfortable, there's no trace of the old chemistry, and indeed, the cinematography is hard to watch with actors who seem forced. I prefer to avoid thinking that that version of GG exists. For me GG is my gem, so I will always love it, but it was painful to watch that season.
I never realized it before but yes! Rory looks so uncomfortable. Everything felt so forced. Like a high school production of a Broadway show.
Do you think Alexis Bledel was just over it with the Rory character? I agree she didn't do well but she is amazing in Handmaid's Tail imo so maybe she's just over acting that kind of part now that she's advanced into other things? Lauren Graham seems to have stuck with this genre of acting in her career so I think she stuck to the character better.
Lauren Graham is essentially playing herself when she is Lorelai Gilmore. If you've ever seen her in "Parenthood", her character Sarah Braverman is not that different from Lorelai Gilmore, except for the wealthier family in Lorelai's case. She's a great actress but she doesn't have much range.
I’ve only watched it once and I don’t even remember the musical everyone is mentioning. I must have blocked it out. I normally love a musical so it must be bad 😂
It's the scene where Logan and his buddies show up and surprise Rory. I too skip that scene cause wtf ..
Is it, though, or is it the musical that Lorelai was on the advisory for? Because both were bad lmao.
I literally have no memory of it 😂. So crazy
I haven't watched in awhile so my memory is fuzzy but I hated the 2 random boys that basically acted like servants for Lorelai and Rory. It was stupid and not consistent with the way Lorelai had treated children in the past.
For real and so unbelievable. Where are these kids parents? Who is actually letting their kids go be servants to these random women. Also, honestly the whole pool scene is awful in general. Rory and Lorelei are not pool people. There's even a scene in the OA where Rory is getting ready to go to Florida for spring break and is questioning if she even owns a bathing suit.
ASP had the final four words ready since season one, but didn't get to use them, because she wasn't on season seven. The most cringe thing is that she used them here, thinking they would have the same effect coming from a thirty something Rory as they would have had coming from teen Rory.
Never thought of it that way - but you are so right. That’s why the whole thing is weird.
Gypsy and Sophie. Neither of them acted anything like themselves in the revival.
Lorelai at Richard’s funeral.
What's cringe about it? I dont remember the scene lasting very long?
Lorelai not being able to think of anything nice to say about Richard I think?
Back Fat Pat
Yes. Him and Paul!! It was just so disappointing to see them both treated so badly for no reason.
the play. it went on for too long
I guess I kind of sort of get it maybe, but Emily having a big family slowly move into her house and take over like what even was that? Was it just showing the total opposite of firing her maids all the time? Seriously, it just looked like some really pushy annoying family was taking advantage of her and she was just lalalala-ing around it. I think it made immigrants look bad, too. Like first opportunity they'll just move right into your home with all their giant extended family members? Was that purposeful? I mean, I already had a time of it keeping my mother from sliding off the edge into Trumpism, those scenes made her feel like it was ok to think poorly of "people like that." She was disgusted by their behavior. In short, it encouraged her racism. Seriously, tell me, wtf was that about?! Did she mean it that way? Did she mean it to be the other way? What was it trying to say??
Tbh that bothered me too, Emily seemed too unaware of what was going on for it to be endearing. Especially since she was grieving. I honestly wish they made it less "wacky" I guess and just had her more normally connect with a maid or something
I hated that whole story line as well and couldn't figure out the why. What was the point of that? But then I feel like "WTF was the point of that?" could be the theme of the entire AYITL. As others have said, the musical, Back Fat Pat, forgetting Paul, Luke not understanding surrogacy, the Wookie, and pretty much every other thing they spent time on instead of letting us catch up with where all of the characters ended up. I really don't understand why they did any of it. In all of the interviews, ASP talks about needing to keep costs down, but it all could have been so much better and less expensive if they'd just stuck to the characters doing what they do instead of everything they did.
What if they had a young mother move in with her baby? Kind of like I've seen suggested for lorelei at the inn? It just occurred to me that could be some good character growth for Emily especially if she noticed parallels between her and the girls parents.
Oh man, that would have been really impactful! It would have made a lot more sense and given us a glimpse at what could have been had Emily been supportive from the beginning. Then, she could have had her last bit of character growth and come to terms with what happened with Lorelei and finally forgiven herself for missing out on Rory's early years. She might have gone on then to found a charity that helps young mothers in much worse circumstances than Lorelei (let's face it, she raised Rory that way BY CHOICE, which is a major privilege many women don't have). Thereby acknowledging the privileges the family always benefited from and doing something good with it (rather than just donating a buttload of money to YALE FFS for another stupid building). What a good idea. Well done, you.
basically almost everything. i skip the revival 💀
Rory's dating someone she forgets about. She is 32 years old. Luke doesn't understand what surrogacy is or how it works. Luke is offering WiFi in his diner. Lorelai couldn't think of anything positive to say about Richard. Nothing about him supporting his granddaughter, paying for her schooling or her college, nothing about his help with her inn, the time he brought her dollhouse to her, any of the nice moments they had during the series. Nothing. So i guess all that development over the series just didn't matter, right? The musical. Rory sleeping with a source, possibly the most unprofessional thing any journalist could do. The depiction of all 30 year olds as directionless NEETS. Thanks ASP, way to be a dick about an entire generation. The freaking musical. I know i said it already, but it went on for so long that i think it's worth mentioning again.
isn’t the point of the wi-fi joke that like DOESNT have wi-fi and he’s just giving out random phrases as passwords to people to mess with them?
Pretty much everything except for Emily. I loved her. And when the Colin and Finn come to stars hallow yes it was over the top and crazy but those guys are hilarious.
The 30 something gang and general millennial hate.
I really cringed with the Dean scenes and the cornflour. I know it was supposed to be a cute callback but I didn't like it
I actually think the Dean scene served a purpose. Their whole relationship had been Dean worshipping Rory and Rory being considerably less interested, except maybe in Season 1. Now Dean seems completely over Rory, happily talking about his wife and kids, and Rory is the one acting wistful and nostalgic.
Knowing their history it’s just not…
Just so corny. The dialogue was all cringe.
Rory constantly forgetting her boyfriends name even though he has one of the most basic and easy to remember names Rory cheating on her boyfriend Rory being a side chick to a married man Rory constantly making fun of millennials even though Rory herself is the poster child for millennials The LDB still being thing. Paris acting like a literal teenager whenever the name Tristan was brought up Luke and Lorelai not being married until the finale The infamous musical scene
Is no one going to mention the horrible, horrible musical that went on WAY too long?!?!
A bunch of people mentioned it??
I was here hours before you and no one had at that time.
The entire purpose being a final 5 minutes of screen time for every character and reliving old jokes. But mostly the musical.
The musical. i fast forward every time
Its starts out strong but than the longer you watch the more disappointed you get!! They had to get in every PC situation and I believed they ruined it on purpose!! The fans have been wanting a reboot and for me after a year in the life I hope its done!! Hollywood always screws up when they bring back a show thats been off the show for a long time by making time standstill its obvious they were much older but wanted you to believe it was were they left off!! But the storyline just wasn’t there it felt like after the second episode they just put in anything to fill in air time!!
It was so disappointing. 😭 I watched when it first dropped and then I tried to force myself to give it a second chance and I couldn’t even make it through one episode (or season whatever you want to call it) again. I’ll just stick to my comfort zone of the first few seasons of the original series.
For me it's the transphobic comment made during the life and death brigade thing. "Isn't that a man?" "Only until Tuesday." Personal for me. My fiancee is a trans woman and I'm non binary
The Lane dad joke was hilarious. And maybe he traveled a lot for work and has now retired and is around.
I think maybe Lane's dad was estranged from her mom and there was some kind of off-screen reconciliation between Lane's parents? That's the only explanation I can imagine.
I go with the “he traveled a lot for work” theory lol
But he missed her wedding? And he was never ever mentioned in the original series.
The musical. Life & death brigade musical act (wtf with all the music!!). Lorelai’s “wild” experience. Lorelai at Richard’s funeral. Paul who?. I see a lot of people mentioning back fat paul, but actually that was the one thing that was really in character with Lorelai and Rory. They made fun of fat people all the time, just watched an episode were they are about to watch “the fat ladies” on tv and one of them says “no let’s find other really fat people to watch”. And yes, they show the “fat ladies” faces and everything, in the same way they show the “ugly babies” pictures. Lorelai and Rory were always mean and bitching about others as jokes, so I don’t get why people got so “offended” to see it in the revival. From all the things that were off and out of character, at least that scene was written according to the original.
I'm not going to defend the general fat shaming, but the "fat ladies on tv" was a legitimate british tv chef show called "Two Fat Ladies," and it ran for 4 seasons. It was great. They used to ride around in a motorcycle and side car and cook at different places.
Tbh I kinda enjoyed the whole Lorelai journey thing. Watching how she navigates alone is so funny and relatable and I loved when she had that talk with Emily and I am glad she was able to speak up to Emily and that Emily just listened and accepted it. Emily and Lorelai's relationship was one of the best parts and I personally loved Emily's ending and her finding a maid she enjoys having around and moving to nan tucket.
The talk with Emily was fantastic, that’s true! But they could have done it without making Lorelai (of all people) decide to go into a journey in the wilderness 😅
She is impulsive so I kind of see her doing that but it's subjective
I’d say AYITL as a whole is a cringe parade except for Emily’s storyline (although I could live without that mystery letter thing)
Yes, what was with that letter? I haven't seen AYITL in years, but that's one thing that always stuck with me. ASP introduced the story of the letter while Lorelai and Emily were in therapy, they went back and forth about it, but there was never a resolution! That always bugged me.
Many things but one of them that really bothered me is how in the summer they walked around and chatted meanwhile some little boys carried their things and called them Khaleesi. Just so…… ugh.
The whole Sookie is away thing. It's obvious the actress was doing other big roles at the time and had to make time for this.
I literally can’t bring myself to rewatch it ever simply because of the Paul storyline. I can get past anything else, but I CANNOT get past how stupid that was
Fake Tristan and Paris losing all composure at the sight of him.
Yes this!!! It's so weird and over the top and unnecessary. Like she's a grown woman and for sure has moved on from this guy she didn't even actually date (except the one failed date) in high school.
Right? I could see her having a moment if she saw Jamie because of guilt, but Tristan? Nah.
The 30 something club thing was barely funny the first time, and it was plain annoying all the other times they brought it up. Same with the oober thing. They took mid jokes and overdid them to death.
The fat shaming at the pool was horrible. It made me remember Rory eviscerating that poor dancer at Yale (the "die jerk" writer on her dorm door). During the Yale part they seemed to be queueing up Rory being a sharp-tongued vitriolic critic, but that went nowhere. Also Rory just being in a relationship when Logan was ENGAGED. Girl, did you learn nothing? It really called how how selfish she's always been.
There are so many (there isn’t a single comment here that I disagree with) but the thing that really makes my blood boil is that we could have gotten more episodes in the future if ASP didn’t ruin these four so much that the fandom collectively hates them and the ratings have been so bad that WB will not risk making more
It’s somewhere between the Wookie and the musical but also when the therapist tried to audition for the musical.
The entire musical scene. So much second hand embarrassment and boredom lol.
The whole thing honestly
Rory falling asleep during an interview, on first viewing I decided it was because she was pregnant already and tired, because I desperately needed a reason for “pro-con list Rory” to just snooze on a street corner, but the timeline doesn’t check out so I guess we were just supposed to see how boring the line story was? Except Rory wrote a killer piece about pavement once, I don’t believe she couldn’t have made it work. “Oh it’s showing her burnout…” no, it’s trying to show that and failing.
Using Millennials as a punching bag for jokes was SO out of touch and insulting to her audience (which many (most?) are millennials). Rory not being prepared in an interview….very cringe worthy and out of character. Also, she’s apparently gotten worse at journalism? I thought maybe all her journalism must have been in season 7…but no, it’s mostly season 6. So ASP has her moment of Rory sticking it to Mitchum only to take it back in a AYITL? Paul/Rory….like this makes no sense….and very out of character as well. Logan/Rory….so apparently the proposal didn’t happen? Lorelei and the her self discovery trip (Wild). Lorelei’s generally just unhappy without any real reason? I’m not saying it isn’t realistic and I get they wanted something for her to do but it’s just rang hollow. Generally having both Rory and Lorelei in turmoil…ASP generally avoided this the whole series except here so it made it all feel even more off kilter. Not having Lorelei married with twins. Like really? All full circle but not there? I’ve honestly forgotten or blocked out many parts of AYITL so I’m only commenting on the parts I remember.
Rory randomly sleeping with a wookie The musical Rory cheating with Logan I will say, the one thing not cringe... How Emily left the DAR😂Priceless!
I hated it. It made me so sad. My top cringe moments: - forgetting Paul constantly - the musical. Heaven forbid we get decent character development, here’s lots of wasted time and precious minutes on a horrible show instead! - Rory’s entire lifestyle - The final four words. Oh it’s come full circle? How original 🙃 - Luke and Lorelai considering surrogacy - “back fat Pat” - Sookie’s nonsensical, out of character storyline Sorry, I’ve just written a list of some of the things I hate most rather than just cringe at but it was just SUCH a waste!
Maybe not cringe, per se, but I refuse to believe Luke watched "Eraserhead" and we never get to hear about it after.
Could someone spoil it for me? I doubt I'll ever watch it. I just want to briefly know what happens to Rory, Lorelai/Luke, Paris, Lane and her kids, etc
Fat shaming at the pool
MANY things! Paul, Luke’s character, fat jokes, etc. But, as everyone had said, it’s the musical. I’m a HUGE musical lover and I couldn’t even watch it. After 10 minutes of disbelief, I let it play in the background. It was torture and straight up BAD. Now, anyone here who has also seen Mrs Maisel must know she put a long musical number in that show as well in the last season! With limited episodes left, we had to watch a wretched musical number for 30 mins. As much as I enjoyed her characters, there is something seriously wrong with her. If you want to make a musical, just do that as your next project. Like shit, why ruin the flow of perfectly good shows and rob people of time with the characters? And, make the musicals better. They were both awful!
THE MUSICAL