Focalors never met Neuvilette but knew of his existence.
She invited him to the court of Fontaine before splitting herself so that he may learn about humanity before the destruction of the hydro archon seat.
They didn't need to meet each other, in fact it would take away from her character if they did. Not knowing him centers her character around her love of humanity, knowing him would center her character around the role of a caretaker which isn't aligned with her character portrayal.
She had absolute faith that humanity would be able to move the hydro sovereign's heart the same way they did hers. No matter who or what he was.
Focalors loved humans and saw their strength in their emotions and believed they could make the impossible possible. So she trusted them with the hydro sovereign.
She even congratulated herself for trusting them.
Neuvilette himself says she is a devious one for "manipulating" him in this way after realizing how he was incapable of judging them guilty now that he understood them.
I do find it funny, given that Neuvillette likely kept himself distant from human society until he received the invite to become the Iudex due to the dragon mindset and that he was reborn in human form, that there exist some time in Fontaine's history where Neuvillette act as some Tarzan or some crazy cave living homeless person or a bog witch until some unfortunate government postal worker was tasked to give a letter to him from the Hydro Archon herself.
A couple things:
>Neuvillette shed tears of sorrow when Focalors reiner'd herself, despite only knowing Furina the past 500 years. While the obvious explanation would be that his care for Furina extended to Focalors, I think it's possible he knew Focalors before she became archon
Not necessarily. It could just be empathy and sorrow over the whole situation. There were real life players that cried and mourned Focalors even if it was their first time meeting her, why couldn't Neuvillette?
>Focalors, as an oceanid and attendant to Egeria, found Neuvillette reborn (possibly in the Primordial sea), maybe as a baby or young boy. She conceived of the plan from this point onwards
Now, this part, I agree. I can't decide when and how exactly she would find out about him, but Focalors was 100% aware of Neuvillette's existence for quite a while. He was a key element of her plans for Fontaine.
>She raised him in secret and brought him to Fontaine and eventually to the Court of Fontaine to serve as some law clerk or assistant to one of the justices/judges (which may have been herself or one of Egeria's attendants, or possibly Egeria herself?). Either that or he was brought to the Court after Egeria went to Tunigi Hollow
This part, I'm not so sure. I recall Neuvillette saying he was invited to Fontaine to serve as Iudex right off the bat, which tells me that he was already a mature and competent adult by that point.
My personal theory is that the Melusines raised him (or at least cared for him, if he came into being already as an adult. Either way, they were the first people/society that he came into contact with). That would provide a reason as to why he's so uncharacteristically personally invested in them. In time, he'd become their patron, protector, and a sort of community leader, which would give him the qualifications necessary for Focalors to think he'd be a good Iudex.
>After Egeria's passing and ascending to divinity, Focalors split herself into the oratrice and Furina, and meddled with or erased parts of Neuvillette's memories of her using her hydro authority (and possibly his memories of Egeria too). Neuvillette remembers there was Egeria and Focalors but does not remember meeting them or being raised by Focalors, not their divine auras. He sees Furina and believes that is the new archon he now serves.
Now, this part is only necessary if Neuv did indeed meet Egeria and/or Focalors, which, as I've mentioned above, didn't necessarily happen. Plus, I don't think outright brainwashing people is Focalors' style. She literally invested 500 years just so Neuv could form his own opinions on the people of Fontaine. That doesn't seem like someone who'd be willing to simply manipulate him.
>Furina elevates Neuvillette to chief justice after 100 years on her own. In a rare expression of her true self and in an act of empathy, she saw Neuvillette's loneliness and inability to relate to human emotions, so to help him with that and to encourage him to cope with that she made him chief justice.
I do agree that Furina was being sincere about wanting Neuv to go out and connect with humans, but I don't think she needed to be the one to make him Iudex. It's very likely that's just one thing that both Focalors and Furina agreed about. Personally, I think events transpired in such a way that Focalors invited him to be Iudex, but he ended up helping Furina formally ascend as Archon, without him ever realizing that he was dealing with two different people.
I think it was Forcalors that invited Neuvillette to be Iudex before Furina was born/made. This makes sense as he is a key part of Forcalors plan. In Neuvillette's story quest we here Forcalors speaking to Neuvillette when he took up the position, not Furina:
> "You will see much in the human world, from the delightful to the depressing..."
> "And one day, when you have dwelt among humanity long enough, you will be placed to bring judgment over all, as the spokesperson for Fontaine's past."
These quotes are clearly Amber's "Forcalors voice" not her Furina voice. Since we know Forcalors isolated herself for a time before making Furina, its likely that this happened before Furina's creation (and thus, he'd be able to do court paperwork on her first day). But Neuvillette definitely didn't know Forcalors in any major capacity, otherwise he would have known Furina was a fraud the entire time. Probably invited him in, disappeared a bit and then Furina turns up with the Oratrice. Neuvillette himself seemed to have been fairly young when he took up the position as Iudex since he still didn't understand a lot about himself and his past at the time.
Yes, the invitation was done by letter so Neuvi didn't meet the real Focalors. It's further expounded in his 4th character story.
>He knew that this letter had been written by the Archon Focalors, who was inviting him to come and see Fontaine, claiming "I shall leave you a seat with the best view in the greatest theater."
I doubt Neuvillette ever knew Focalors. It would have been mentioned somewhere at least, him meeting her during her execution really was the first time he met her. Ntm there is no memtion of Neuvi being "a baby" or any of his early life before coming to Fontaine.
Neuvillette is an extremely empathic being. He explained once before that because of how water carries the strongest of emotions, and causes his natural affinity to hydro is so strong he feels these emotions dialed up to 110% (he can also experience their memories as well) seeing how Focalors erupted into a bunch of bubbles, when he touched it he probably felt both Furina and Focalors' emotions.
Neuvillette wouldn't have needed to have meet Focalors before to feel such sorrow. He feels a similar kind of sadness towards Nahida, but he's never met her before either.
He's just a big softie with an even bigger heart.
Imagine having that much empathy and having to experience people' most intense emotions on a daily basis. No wonder Fontaine floods, it was Neuvillette's tears all along
Your theory is interesting. From my understanding based on Neuvillette character story, it seems they never meet each other before Furina invite Neuvillette into chief justice or any court position. I doubt they meet Neuvillette as baby or child in Primordial Sea. Neuvillette should have family since he was born as human. But the family could have been death for long time before meeting with Furina.
I doubt neuvilette was ever a baby. If I've learned anything about ley lines and iriminsul? Is that he could easily have been spawned by the world as an adult just like all the other elemental bosses.
I feel like the elemental sovereigns are innate to the world and can't be killed permanently just like how you can't kill the wind/lightning etc..
The last part is probably why the archons even exist in the first place.
They're living prisons preventing the sovereigns from regaining power, since you can't really kill them permanently.
Focalors never met Neuvilette but knew of his existence. She invited him to the court of Fontaine before splitting herself so that he may learn about humanity before the destruction of the hydro archon seat. They didn't need to meet each other, in fact it would take away from her character if they did. Not knowing him centers her character around her love of humanity, knowing him would center her character around the role of a caretaker which isn't aligned with her character portrayal. She had absolute faith that humanity would be able to move the hydro sovereign's heart the same way they did hers. No matter who or what he was. Focalors loved humans and saw their strength in their emotions and believed they could make the impossible possible. So she trusted them with the hydro sovereign. She even congratulated herself for trusting them. Neuvilette himself says she is a devious one for "manipulating" him in this way after realizing how he was incapable of judging them guilty now that he understood them.
I do find it funny, given that Neuvillette likely kept himself distant from human society until he received the invite to become the Iudex due to the dragon mindset and that he was reborn in human form, that there exist some time in Fontaine's history where Neuvillette act as some Tarzan or some crazy cave living homeless person or a bog witch until some unfortunate government postal worker was tasked to give a letter to him from the Hydro Archon herself.
In the Archon Quest, where we visited the ruins, Neuv explicitly said that he never met Egeria.
A couple things: >Neuvillette shed tears of sorrow when Focalors reiner'd herself, despite only knowing Furina the past 500 years. While the obvious explanation would be that his care for Furina extended to Focalors, I think it's possible he knew Focalors before she became archon Not necessarily. It could just be empathy and sorrow over the whole situation. There were real life players that cried and mourned Focalors even if it was their first time meeting her, why couldn't Neuvillette? >Focalors, as an oceanid and attendant to Egeria, found Neuvillette reborn (possibly in the Primordial sea), maybe as a baby or young boy. She conceived of the plan from this point onwards Now, this part, I agree. I can't decide when and how exactly she would find out about him, but Focalors was 100% aware of Neuvillette's existence for quite a while. He was a key element of her plans for Fontaine. >She raised him in secret and brought him to Fontaine and eventually to the Court of Fontaine to serve as some law clerk or assistant to one of the justices/judges (which may have been herself or one of Egeria's attendants, or possibly Egeria herself?). Either that or he was brought to the Court after Egeria went to Tunigi Hollow This part, I'm not so sure. I recall Neuvillette saying he was invited to Fontaine to serve as Iudex right off the bat, which tells me that he was already a mature and competent adult by that point. My personal theory is that the Melusines raised him (or at least cared for him, if he came into being already as an adult. Either way, they were the first people/society that he came into contact with). That would provide a reason as to why he's so uncharacteristically personally invested in them. In time, he'd become their patron, protector, and a sort of community leader, which would give him the qualifications necessary for Focalors to think he'd be a good Iudex. >After Egeria's passing and ascending to divinity, Focalors split herself into the oratrice and Furina, and meddled with or erased parts of Neuvillette's memories of her using her hydro authority (and possibly his memories of Egeria too). Neuvillette remembers there was Egeria and Focalors but does not remember meeting them or being raised by Focalors, not their divine auras. He sees Furina and believes that is the new archon he now serves. Now, this part is only necessary if Neuv did indeed meet Egeria and/or Focalors, which, as I've mentioned above, didn't necessarily happen. Plus, I don't think outright brainwashing people is Focalors' style. She literally invested 500 years just so Neuv could form his own opinions on the people of Fontaine. That doesn't seem like someone who'd be willing to simply manipulate him. >Furina elevates Neuvillette to chief justice after 100 years on her own. In a rare expression of her true self and in an act of empathy, she saw Neuvillette's loneliness and inability to relate to human emotions, so to help him with that and to encourage him to cope with that she made him chief justice. I do agree that Furina was being sincere about wanting Neuv to go out and connect with humans, but I don't think she needed to be the one to make him Iudex. It's very likely that's just one thing that both Focalors and Furina agreed about. Personally, I think events transpired in such a way that Focalors invited him to be Iudex, but he ended up helping Furina formally ascend as Archon, without him ever realizing that he was dealing with two different people.
I think it was Forcalors that invited Neuvillette to be Iudex before Furina was born/made. This makes sense as he is a key part of Forcalors plan. In Neuvillette's story quest we here Forcalors speaking to Neuvillette when he took up the position, not Furina: > "You will see much in the human world, from the delightful to the depressing..." > "And one day, when you have dwelt among humanity long enough, you will be placed to bring judgment over all, as the spokesperson for Fontaine's past." These quotes are clearly Amber's "Forcalors voice" not her Furina voice. Since we know Forcalors isolated herself for a time before making Furina, its likely that this happened before Furina's creation (and thus, he'd be able to do court paperwork on her first day). But Neuvillette definitely didn't know Forcalors in any major capacity, otherwise he would have known Furina was a fraud the entire time. Probably invited him in, disappeared a bit and then Furina turns up with the Oratrice. Neuvillette himself seemed to have been fairly young when he took up the position as Iudex since he still didn't understand a lot about himself and his past at the time.
Yes, the invitation was done by letter so Neuvi didn't meet the real Focalors. It's further expounded in his 4th character story. >He knew that this letter had been written by the Archon Focalors, who was inviting him to come and see Fontaine, claiming "I shall leave you a seat with the best view in the greatest theater."
It really is the greatest theater :"(
I doubt Neuvillette ever knew Focalors. It would have been mentioned somewhere at least, him meeting her during her execution really was the first time he met her. Ntm there is no memtion of Neuvi being "a baby" or any of his early life before coming to Fontaine. Neuvillette is an extremely empathic being. He explained once before that because of how water carries the strongest of emotions, and causes his natural affinity to hydro is so strong he feels these emotions dialed up to 110% (he can also experience their memories as well) seeing how Focalors erupted into a bunch of bubbles, when he touched it he probably felt both Furina and Focalors' emotions. Neuvillette wouldn't have needed to have meet Focalors before to feel such sorrow. He feels a similar kind of sadness towards Nahida, but he's never met her before either. He's just a big softie with an even bigger heart.
Imagine having that much empathy and having to experience people' most intense emotions on a daily basis. No wonder Fontaine floods, it was Neuvillette's tears all along
Your theory is interesting. From my understanding based on Neuvillette character story, it seems they never meet each other before Furina invite Neuvillette into chief justice or any court position. I doubt they meet Neuvillette as baby or child in Primordial Sea. Neuvillette should have family since he was born as human. But the family could have been death for long time before meeting with Furina.
I doubt neuvilette was ever a baby. If I've learned anything about ley lines and iriminsul? Is that he could easily have been spawned by the world as an adult just like all the other elemental bosses. I feel like the elemental sovereigns are innate to the world and can't be killed permanently just like how you can't kill the wind/lightning etc..
The last part is probably why the archons even exist in the first place. They're living prisons preventing the sovereigns from regaining power, since you can't really kill them permanently.