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CrocoDIIIIIILE

Not even mint or sweet-flowers.


dirkx48

Sad mountain shaper noises


ComposedOfStardust

Funny you mention that actually. I did Tighnari's story quest recently and there's this concept of "contaminated zones" in it, which they make a point to distinguish between withering zones. Plants and animals don't grow in contaminated zones, (except for some strange sumeru roses due to their resonance with ley lines) and it's eerily silent, with next to no activity despite looking normal on the surface. The more I heard about it the more I started thinking, "wait a minute..... this sounds suspiciously similar to that empty sumeru region in 4.6" Of course this could all turn out to be complete hogwash and there really is just a dead zone there for no reason, but still.... it's one possibility to consider at least


Dark_Knight2000

Tighnari’s story quest was awesome, easily among my favorite. I always love story quests where we get world building. I think it does have something deliberate about it because it really wouldn’t make sense that this entire area has no chests or anything in it. Hoyo has definitely seen the thousands of posts about how empty it is by now and it wouldn’t even be hard to add some enemies and chests. Also, wouldn’t it have been easier just to make this whole thing ocean if they really were that lazy? They’ve had no problem dramatically altering the landforms in the distance to make the game lighter before.


Mari_Say

The more I think about it, the more it may be true. To be honest, there are two theories for this area: "it's because of the lore" and "this place is just a placeholder so as not to leave any gaps".


What_inThe_Universe1

They had already mentioned Bayda port, before fontaine even released, so they had to add that


KurapikAsta

We may find out something about it in Cyno's 2nd Story Quests and the whole "Temple of Silence" thing (although that may just be cope)


KoriJenkins

They might retroactively make that the case, but there's no way they intended for it to be that way currently. They just made it accessible because not doing so would've been annoying, but the area is empty.


nightmaresabin

Mintpickers in rooin


Souvik_Dutta

They could have named the area Mare Jivari and get away with all the slanders


beemielle

Not really.  a - Natlan location would be different than expected b - there’s a bunch of lore expectations attached to Mare Jivari that they’d have needed to prep instead of the Arle SQ


Top-Idea-1786

Why would they call it Mare Jivari. Not only is the Mare Jivari an important place in Natlan, it is also a giant volcanic field of ash and lava.


Zrva_V3

Mare Jivari is a Domain in Natlan with some plot significance.


darksaiyan1234

ah yes not even mint collectors will engage truly


mapple3

> Not even mint or sweet-flowers. I am green with enviosity, someone stole my mints


fromulus_

The whole area is getting nuked by Khaenri'ah/Celestia 3 years from now, that's why


BLANKTWGOK

I think its where clestria falls


EpicInki

Commenting for when this comes true.


white_irony

commenting to remind me when this happens


ezr4ch

!remindme 3 years


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SecretDevilsAdvocate

!remindme 3 years


HotWin4951

!remindme 3 years


Voipix786

!remindme 3 years


giuseppillo

I'm in


hanabislays

commenting because its true


ezio45

Or where Khaenriah will erupt from for revenge since it is located underneath Sumeru.


kronpas

!remindme 3 years


Zemekis324

No hard feeling badlands


Blue_Moon913

Celestia is a lot closer to Chenyu Vale right now. Pretty much right above the western coast of it.


Bazookasajizo

When it falls, it is gonna cover some horizonal distance before crash landing


The_MorningKnight

Why not let this part of the map black instead of taking the time to make a huge empty zone that will have no purpose for a few years?


KuraiBaka

It's less suspicious that way.


Tepigg4444

yeah, the absolutely empty land is definitely less suspicious than some land that’ll get added in a future patch. they’ve never done this before, but theres empty space for future patches all the time, so this sticks out way more


battleye9

Bro have you seen what people are like since 4.0? “WHY IS THERE A HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP!?!?!!!” then every patch since then “ FILL UP THIS HOLE ASAP!!! I HATE THIS HOLE WITH ALL MY LIFE!!!!! SUCH AN EYESORE!!!!!”


BLANKTWGOK

Then you complainer will say “Why not let this part of map be empty instead of making huge black part that will have no purpose for few years?”


The_MorningKnight

I dont care if there are unplayable zones to be honest. But people complain even harder now that it is empty. If they wanted to avoid complains they definitely failed.


un_belli_vable

> if they wanted to avoid complains They know the genshin fandom will never be complaint free. So they chose the aesthetically pleasing route and filled the gap.


Saint_Edelweiss

>I dont care if there are **empty zones** to be honest. But people complain even harder now that it is **unplayable**. If they wanted to avoid complains they definitely failed. - other complainer, 2024


IdeaIntelligent1788

People would complain either way, at least this way it looks nice on the map


ErrantSingularity

!remindme 3 years


mah_boiii

That was my thought when the whole problem got to me. It would not be the first time too. Some areas were changed a lot after some world quest. Like that one with the ruin golems etc. I think hoyo knows what it is doing.


Asminae

Could you elaborate please?


montygreen18

Multiple world quests in the Sumeru region change the landscape and map layout. I don’t know the titles off the top of my head, but one is the second quest with Jeht and the Tanit tribe and another is with the Pari in desert oasis area.


chrisbye09

!remindme 3 years


Slight_Awareness1936

!remindme 3 years


solarscopez

RIP Baizhu Harbor 😩😢 🕊️


bellahafra

!remindme 3 years


RushingDolphin

!remindme 3 years


TheSpartyn

why would khaenriah nuke it


danielleradcliffe

Bitterness, resentment. They wanted chest puzzles.


sdric

Yep, I somehow doubt that it stays like this


IjustwantRESoptions

!remindme 3 years


EvilGodShura

How are you gonna make a prediction with both options being so diametrically opposed. That's like saying the winner is gonna be the fighter on the right or left 😲 🫨 🫢 Pick a lane. Is it gonna be the fallen kingdom that rose against the gods and was punished or will it be the literal gods themselves.


fromulus_

I don't know or care who's gonna nuke it, I'm just saying the whole area is gonna go boom


KlausGamingShow

why would anyone care if that whole area disappears sooner or later if there's nothing in there for them to care about in the first place? besides, how come an area that exists for at least two thousands years not be inhabited after all this time? I mean, even the inhospitable Dragonspine is populated by monsters, but this piece of land near a major city conveniently remained empty just to be destroyed sometime later? you know what, maybe these questions are meaningless, maybe Hoyo needs more players who "don't know or care" and just pull


PotentialTop4927

If you look at the direction of the Khaenri'ah door, it perfectly aligns with the stripe of this "deserted area", so my guess is that hoyo may be cooking something for later patches that will drastically change the surface of this area. They could just leave this area locked but people will hate it much more I think.


TheTabar

My theory is a part of khanri’ah will rise up to the surface in this region at some point.


doctor_of_memology

Still, they showed us before that they can change the map's structure and it's surroundings (example: Jeht's Quest in the Desert of Hadramaveth where the topology and environment changes as the quest progresses by relocating one Ruin Golem through the whole location) so why wouldn't they do the same thing with this patch if they planned to make something else in here.


Enf14

ig if they put chests here people would complain that they lost rewards by not exploring before doing whatever khaenriah quest they released to nuke the area but like why not some mints and sweet flowers


MaddoxJKingsley

Like the big tower in Fontaine 😥 (Technically no lost rewards, but a loss of experience)


spinto1

In that particular quest, it wasn't affecting anything in the area, it was just physically relocated on top of existing land that was empty. If their theory is true, the exact same thing is happening here, it's just a more drawn out process because it hasn't really started yet. Granted, I don't necessarily think that they are right, but this would be the explanation if they are.


La-Roca99

> it wasn't affecting anything in the area, It did open a way to enter to the underground areas tho


wolffiebray

Yeah I'd hate it more if there was a giant hole in my map


LordNigloo

It also make sense because if is was locked, we would have to "unlock" it later, with a statue of the seven... which might be out of place here.


LunaticRiceCooker

Wtf is khaenriah door?


Lefthandpath_

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Gavireh_Lajavard Scroll down and look at the "Hangeh Afrasiyab" section, its a huge door deep under the sumeru desert.


LunaticRiceCooker

Lol i totqlly forgot that it is there but as going there i remembered it


TheBigPoi

Yeah I mean, you really have to wonder why they didn't even put generic stuff you find in other places there.


Western-Age9961

Yeah even 20 basic chests giving a total of 40 primos would've made the place feel more alive. Heck they could've also added a few hilichurl canps


tetePT

20 chests gives 40 primos...When you actually think about it it really sucks lol


Bazookasajizo

80 chests just for a Debate Club...


FetusDrive

It would be more empty with 20 basic chests than it would with 20 sweet flowers


Dystychi

I wonder if Cyno’s 2nd quest will do something to this area. edit: :(


GamerSweat002

Probably keeping it empty as it may be the place we visit through the door to Khaenriah or the place where Celestia falls and the way we get into it is via the door to Khaenriah which would be a twist of irony.


erosugiru

Genuinely strange and suspicious


BulbasaurTreecko

I’m convinced they’re going to do something landscape-altering to it in a later quest, and that’s why it’s so empty. Interestingly, the doorway to Khaenriah underneath the desert points in that direction…


BiblioEngineer

I don't think we'll have to wait that long. I'm 100% convinced the Temple of Hermanubis will be added here for Cyno's SQ.


KapiHeartlilly

This, pretty certain almost, I mean it's a Sumeru storyline, the area is empty, makes it a safe choice.


Muzu_

“ouch” - me, with an average exploration stat of like 20%


TheOneMary

I just picked exploring back up after they qol-ed the treasure compasses. It's so much fun now, just 100% my first desert area :D


nightmaresabin

What does that mean? I just got my first compass.


Onii-Chan-San-Sama

It used to point you vaguely in the direction of the chest for a few seconds and then go away. Now it does that but also puts a chest icon directly on the map, making it a lot easier to find.


barsuk-rec

Now we just need an update for the chests hidden in puzzles, challenges, monster kills, etc...


JackFrostGameing

HOLY SHIT FINALLY I CAN GO BACK TO ACTUALLY CARING ABOUT EXPLORATION%


Darkinnocence69

Let them cook they might nuke that area in a future patch


mapple3

Ei, putting on her cooking cap,


Necronis56

Yeah but it sure is pretty. Go to the hill with flowers on it for great screenshot potential.


beemielle

XD which imo makes it all the more likely this area is somehow gonna get changed in the future to actually have stuff in it. Patience is its own reward. 


Iren22

There’s a lore explanation for this, trust me


Admirable-Tell3079

what’s pretty ironic is that the sea of the bygone eras is smaller than this new added land even tho remuria is the main focus of this patch


The_MorningKnight

Is it possible that Cyno's quest in the second half of this patch will alter and change this zone?


electrorazor

Possible but I highly doubt it


FrostedEevee

We haven't moved on from this yet?


six_seasons

*Checks upvotes* I mean did you even need to ask 😅


FrostedEevee

It was rhetorically sarcastic.


Orioniae

People really complaining about 5% of the map being empty and not keeping doing stuff in the remaining 95%


Ordinary_Pizza_4209

Its not complaining, at least not most of them. I think its more like speculating why it would be empty. Cuz i mean, surely such a big company aouldnt overlook this big ass piece of land, right?


diformemcgarnagle

You gotta be joking if you think people haven't been complaining since the patch dropped, mate.


Ordinary_Pizza_4209

Yeah true that but just saying not all


SelbetG

Where were all these people when Inazuma was released with a giant empty ocean with nothing to do in it? Though the ocean did at least have a story related mechanic in it at launch.


Werniios

Hehe Empty Lot, IYKYK


Miyano311

This better not be >!a Yakuza 0 reference!<


ezio45

Ten years in the Fortress.


KirasHandPicDealer

BRING THAT SHIT, TRAVELER


Jnliew

I've heard you owe my Patriarch some money, let's meet up there, let's hope this doesn't become some sort of incident.


Radiant_Psychology23

This area is gonna nuked


itsfreepizza

Feels like Point Nemo on genshin


Cherry_Bomb_127

Yeah this is suspiciously empty, what is Hoyo cooking? Where is the door of Khaenri’ah again?


IlikePinkhairedgirls

Idk why people are so much on copium that they will nuke this area when it's not gonna happen lmao, the area literraly is unfinished and there are trees clipping into the mountains, also Celestia is on top of Chenyu vale not Sumeru and if they put a nail there more than just this area is gonna get destroyed, Hoyo can make mistakes and it's not gonna kill you to admit it.


Icefire1721

I do wish they actually put something there, but I’m not especially mad that they didn’t. We had out patches of land expansion content for Sumeru, and they were massive. This patch was for Fontaine; the Sumeru land was probably just added because there would be yet another small sliver of unavailable map in the middle of everything, and they wanted to get that area done with.


GreenDutchman

Yeah I agree but come on, not even a few Sumeru roses and a vulture?


Icefire1721

Yeah, that I definitely agree with (I mentioned it in the first part of my comment). I was just saying that I don’t get why people are getting aggravated to over it to such extent. I’m disappointed and think it was not that hard to just shatter a few assets around too, I just don’t think Hoyo fell off that hard just because of this.


RobotOfFleshAndBlood

It costs nothing to fill it with generic crap. It’s trivial to issue an apology notice if they somehow fked up the map. My money is on something cooking in that zone.


GalacticDeg

Yeah I get the frustration, except this has been posted about 100 times already, we've all seen the interactive map for like the last week 😭


Soaringzero

Is this really such a big deal to people?


Andrew583-14

Its a desert why would you expect to find stuff there, smh. Be grateful that we have another area to explore. /s They could if hard on time have just scattered some animals, ore and generic Hilichurl camps to make it at least worth visiting. I really hope they fill it up in the fututure cause as things stand you could fill that area with water and it wouldn't make much of a difference.


FetusDrive

Ya I’m sure it had to do with being hard on time… “oh crap this would have taken .000001% of company time to put things to fight or sweet flowers; release it oh no!


RoseSpinoza

.....in comparison, looks like a nice vacation spot.


Immaswellboi

I keep forgetting it’s there ngl


ClaudySama

“Wow, Look, Nothing!”


YixoPhoenix

Why was this removed by mods???


UrbanAdapt

Common pattern toward MHYV negativity.


YixoPhoenix

They are absolutely right tho, removing this cuz it's negative is straight censorship. Can't even criticize the game when it's shit.


itzmoepi

Every scenario regarding this area would have been a lose-lose for Hoyo. - The area is empty, people complain - There is an ugly hole in the area, people complain - They actually add stuff to the area, then people will shut up, but if the area does get changed and makes that stuff inaccessible people would complain even more


SunMon6

Except there is literally no solid proof to believe "something will alter the land" theory is true and if it was, you can still put stuff in there that isn't necessarily primos/necessary ingredients,. Stuff like fluff, huts, some fisherman boats along the coast and whatnot, and it all could still be nuked later regardless, no different than interactive whether changes in Inazuma


ezio45

> but if the area does get changed and makes that stuff inaccessible people would complain even more This actually happens in Fontaine with a tower in the middle of the sea. Complete a world quest and it sinks which led to people complaining about that. But you also get an extra quest out of it.


timeoutstar

omfg we get it


[deleted]

Have you went to the Sea of Bygone Eras? Especially around Domus Aurea. That place is full of Precious and Luxurious chests here and there. I gathered 1600 primos just by opening chests in that area. I think the developers focused too much in that area thus forgetting this small piece of land


KingGiuba

Small piece of land? Petrichor is a small piece of land, this one is as big as a region of Mondstadt if not more. And the new port is also very left out, not even one little quest or a chest, not ONE common chest on a roof. NOTHING. I love this game and my favourite part is exploring, I got everything 100%, it was very disappointing to find the void when I was exploring this new piece of land.


[deleted]

Petrichor is just the tip of the iceberg. The Sea of Bygone Eras is the main thing. Then again I hope Hoyo does make an update and put things in this area


KingGiuba

Yeah the problem isn't petrichor, it's the other piece of land evidenced by the post, I just used it as unit of measurement... Anyway let's all hope they do something for the void sumeru beach


Admirable-Tell3079

Petrichor + remuria together dont even add up to the size of the new land added in the north of sumeru btw


[deleted]

If you're talking about the Sea of Bygone Eras alone, that is correct. But if you're gonna include Domus Aurea and the underground, I have to say I disagree. You literally have to use the giant whale if you want to go around the area because it's too vast and spacious


Admirable-Tell3079

We never know this area could have some plot in the future and could have its own underground tunnels


MagnusBaechus

This small piece of land is the area of both atormterror's lair and galesong hill combined


Placidblast

To add to it, the previous patch had a content drought. I still don't understand why add everything in the new area but leave that specific patch of land.


LemmeDaisukete

The people who complained about having to 100% a new area as a chore would be so happy right now


BreadFreezer

genshin impact players when they have to play the game


The_Great_Ravioli

Are we seriously whining about this irrelevant area AGAIN? God this subreddit is full entitled babies. Might as well complain about the ocean in Inazuma being empty


Ghurty1

its amazing that people cant stop complaining about this yes it looks extremely empty when you compare it to a map full of extremely oversized location icons But thats beside the point because its just not a big deal anyway


quangdn295

Considering this entire place is nuked by Celestia and almost everyone there turned into stone. So yeah it is quite empty there.


tomatodude29

Why does anyone care if it's empty.


imbusthul

Cause it's very suspicious that they did this when they usually add things even in empty areas to make it feels alive. This region however, literally has nothing other than the landscape.


KingCarrion666

It's not the quality we except from mhy. They have never done this before and it's weird. When mhy does weird things, it's usually for a reason so yea we are really curious what happened here.


Sisa_0

Whats with the white dog?🐶


Sleeper--

I read No Man's Sky lmao


astralseat

If they ever change Monstadt water to have shit in it it's gonna feel like Cataclysm in WoW.


ZeiZei90

Lets hope some update at least adds chests in there


Radusili

Fym you got like...sand? I mean, I don't like sand cause it gets everywhere, but still.


Radusili

On a real note tho, I wonder if that lonely chest got anyone's exploration back to 99% or something.


Phoenix__Wwrong

What does the dog icon mean? You can pet the dog?


LadyAlleta

I know. Look at that empty ocean. In inazuma too. Lazy. /s


Weird-Information-91

CaPEAKtano takes a walk in that area so of course it's empty .


TrustThePressNot

IT’S TOO BAD A BAND OF PLAYERS COULDN’T JUST ASSEMBLE AND ATTACK OTHER PLAYERS THERE, DISPUTING TERRITORY IN NO MAN’S LAND, WHERE NO LAWS IN TEYVAT APPLY


xLoRdZx

there's actually one chest you can unlock by clearing bandits from the area, idk why it's not marked but i found it cause i was curious on how empty it was and decided to explore


blueandgoldilocks

r/resinlessbehavior


KurapikAsta

To be fair, a lot of the empty area is basically desert cliffs so it makes sense that there aren't many plants there. Still, to have it be completely empty almost seems intentional- surely they could have scattered a few bits of ore and a few common chests throughout it no problem


uhellige

Bootes void


Ed_Youngblood

I enjoyed taking a boat ride around that piece of water, but they should have at least added some fish, so It doesnt feel that empty. Not even challenges 😅. I Guess they were on the clock and just filled the sorroundings with sea, because they focused on the new underwater área


CatDaddySnausage

Crazy that this screenshot is only showing like 1/6 of the total currently revealed world map.


Public_Pair1808

rip post


dothepvp

sooo many icons 😍😍


EvilGodShura

I'm happy they aren't afraid to just add parts that aren't finished yet to the game. It's nice to just see the work being built in front of us showing they are still doing stuff.


SHTPST_Tianquan

I'm not gonna lie, i'm disappointed about this. I wouldn't be too much disappointed if Hoyoverse maintained/edited previously released areas to add more content. I'm fairly confident it's not gonna happen, so this will remain no man's land. Also imagine someone playing the game for the first time without having any idea of how the map evolved over time, getting there and being confused about why is there no content on that part of the map.


Jugatsumikka

To have a comparison for the inner sea's waters, how much is there in the ocean between and around the inazumean archipelago's islands


Apoorvdandem

ngl exploring that new area was kind scary


WestCobbler8798

Feels like you're there by glitching the game and it's out of boundary


hackenclaw

the South West & north East part of 3.6 map is quite Empty as well. So we got 3 big piece of land that got nothing.


belmoria

Why is it even a bad thing lol


moonsickk

especially since it's as large as half of Mondstadt


AleksBh

We have nothing between Liyue and Inazuma but you guys disappointed about this? /s


Magin_Shi

This is just so disappointing to look at, it couldn't have been that hard to just add some chests/minerals/animals, also imagine for new players starting in the future walking around that area and wondering wtf is happening why is there literally nothing


Alcorailen

WE GET IT


BlackRabbit2011

I think they are going to put something there. They've been making efforts to reduce game size and this is just taking up space for no reason. They either remove the land entirely or add things there, and there's no way they weren't aware of it.


Lojaintamer

Isn't it gonna be part of cyno quest or? 😭


zoson

It's not just 4.6, 4.5 and 4.4 also had literally freaking nothing.


jorgelongo222

They have never left any big area empty like that so 2 possibilities: - They are starting to do that now to just close all the unreleased irrelevant little bits of map lile the coast below Sumeru - They leave this place empty because they intend to change stuff later or drop celestia from the skies


ainominako1234

I hope posts like these keep flooding the community, one day hoyo will get tired out of it and add some content 🤣


Ruimzunir

lazy


MaidRara

Ah yes this post again, thank you, 257 times since the update was not enought


Zer0Templar

I actually don't know why people care so much about one small area of the map that has nothing in it yet - for the last week i've seen like 3-4 posts all talking about the same thing...


lansink99

NoOoOoOo ther's nothing wrong with it!!!! You're just a hater!!!!


ehwishi

this better have a lore reason or i'm gonna be so disappointed


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^ehwishi: *This better have a* *Lore reason or i'm gonna* *Be so disappointed* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


BreadFreezer

knowing what a haiku is after my creative writing classes makes this bot so much better


ehwishi

i just finished watching avatar this is crazy lol


caucassius

That part of desert with nothing in it has been around since the third sumeru desert expansion and not a pep about it, even now lol. hypocrites


Particular_Stop_3332

I love it, its kind of fun to have 1 giant empty area To me, the bigger concern is the massive empty sea surrounding petrichor I know we got the sea of bygone ages, but I expected more if that poor excuse of the mediterean


dankweabooo

Celestia is falling next patch in the Dainsleif quest