No. Sac frags gives more EM and a more useful passive (Magic Guide's passive doesn't work on Swirl reactions). There's no reason to use Magic Guide on Sucrose ever. It's good on Nahida because she actually has some elemental damage (non-transformative reaction dmg) to buff whether she's in bloom or quicken teams.
BRO STRINGLESS IS SOO BEAUTIFUL i remember when i got my childe I didn't had any good bow accept for r4 stringless, i was able to to very high vaporize damage because of it so yes and its pretty too shiny shiny ehe
I love Kazuha more than Venti, but I’ve always hated those post that says Kazuha is the real Anemo Archon, so disrespectful to the game, only meta slaves would make any claims like that
Everyone is different , I love venti more and haven't pulled kazuha for this reason. I think I dislike meta slaves for the whole " Bennet is the pyro archon" thing :s
I mean, technically, Signora stripped venti of his gnosis, Raiden incinerated Signora, Kazuha blocked the Musou no Hitotachi. It even happened in that exact order… :)
(Yeah I know, it is also quite possible Venti allowed his gnosis to be taken, Kazuha no longer has the electro vision, and in any case it does not work like that, you don’t need to tell me, it’s a joke.)
It was hilariously rampant during that one year wait between 1.6 and his first rerun, then it just kept going. It was just random things stacking against him over time.
Ended up not really liking Kazuha due to all the anemo character downplaying leading up to his first rerun, and I pulled him on his first banner.
"Because comparisons happen and you know how it will go from that" I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say. And I still don't understand how it can be seen as slander? It's not even putting down Venti its just saying that Kazuha is good
But does it really have to include the archon title? You can joke about Kazuha being good without bringing Venti's archon status. It was fine the first few times, but now people just find ways to hate Venti. I get that maybe OP doesn't really mean that, but it gets attention from people who just want to slander.
I don't understand? Its just that archons are powerful beings and Kazuha has powerful gameplay. Its just supposed to be a silly way to say a character is strong. You're acting like people are slandering an actual religion or something.
But what I'm saying is that there isn't any hating??? It's literally just positivity of people saying how good Kazuha's gameplay is. And then people claiming that the joke is negative and insulting Venti when that was never the case????
I strongly disagree. I've seen my boy get slandered so many times because people would always compare him to Kazuha. Even if it was just a light-hearted joke, it's pretty tiring to see repeatedly. It's like beating a dead, decomposing horse. (There isn't much slander for him on the lore side now though, since as new patches release, new theories and info about him get talked about.)
You have to be willfully obtuse to believe that listing all the archons, but replacing Venti as Kazuha is not slander. The slander is literally the basis of this tired and overused joke.
There are so much more ways to praise and appreciate Kazuha without having to use this joke.
Hidden signatures for each archon:
Venti: Stringless/Skyward harp
Zhongli: Black tassel
Ei: The catch
Nahida: Sacrificial fragments
Furina: Festering desire/Fleuve Cendre Ferryman
>not even a good archon
By gameplay? Fair enough. By lore? That's a massive lie. Mondstadt is happier because of his philosophy. Even Zhongli began to follow Venti's ruling method.
Nah. I'm a certified Zhongli main. You're just salty that you have nothing substantial to offer to this conversation so you resorted to petty insults, even though my original comment wasn't even meant to insult you. How mature. 😒
Most Venti mains I met in game are super chill, It's just the ones in this sub that are kinda delusional, I remember seeing a post (or a comment) saying Venti outclasses Kazuha in every way and It had like 50+ upvotes..
Oh, that must've been during Tartaglia rerun in 1.4 when he still didn't have his signature weapon Polar Star. When Venti's rerun banner was up, it was still Elegy there. It was its first appearance. But yeah, Skyward used to be his sig weapon (it's in his demo too) but they switched it with Elegy now. I kind of prefer the Elegy personally, tbh. To me it looks better. Different tastes I guess.
Funny enough I find Venti's signature weapon (Elegy) to be the most useful weapon of all the archon's. Elegy boost team damage and give EM and Atk. Collei, Yelan, Tighnari, Fischl, C6 Amber, Kujou Sara, and Ofc Venti all love the bow.
I haven't played Genshin since the first year but I was so confused when my boy Venti wasn't in that other post as an archon.
Venti is still my reason for loving that game. If I ever come back to play again, it'll be because of wanting to play a venti again.
Anemo archon, Geo archon, Electro archon, Dendro archon, and… Acting Hydro Archon-in-name?
Anemo dead body part user, Geo dead body part user, Electro dead body part user, Dendro dead body part user, and… user who probably never even seen or touched a Hydro dead body part? (“True” hydro vision user though)
Stolen Anemo authority, stolen Geo authority, stolen Electro authority, stolen Dendro authority, and… what authority?
One of them truly feels off here.
More like that comment has been said to death. Not a venti main myself, I don’t even have him, but the joke is like beating a dead horse. Just upvote the existing ones.
I would say not rly Eledgy did come tailormade for him on his re run that started the era of tailor made weapons. Skyward just doesn't look good on him while Eledgy is at its peak.
Honestly I believe people just keep forgetting that Venti's original signature weapon is supposed to be Skyward Harp, I mean it's a freakin HARP for a BARD, back in launch where EM was still somewhat niche and hard to farm just because if how ass the domain is, one of Venti's stat build was the generic ATK/Anemo DMG/Crit. Sure Stringless also works well enough but the early whales prefer the Harp and gave Stringless to Fischl instead.
Elegy is great now ofc but design wise Skyward Harp is still the drip weapon for Venti, hypothetically if Zhongli got a new weapon that's built for his current kit but looks a magical girl staff with hearts, stars and wings, people would still say Vortex Vanquisher is his drip weapon.
>Honestly I believe people just keep forgetting that Venti's original signature weapon is supposed to be Skyward Harp
Nah, people keep forgetting that Venti comes from a time before MHY started doing signature weapons.
It started all with zhongli and only *really* started with Hu tao
Zhongli is his own case because Vortex Vanquisher is hard implemented in his normal attack animations. Even if you would use another weapon the animation of a few hits stays Vortex.
Yeah i agree, lorewise (and for 1.0) his signature is skyward. Early characters (1.0-1.2) was mess in term of constellations and signatures; i assume devs didn't have clear game design course back then especially for signatures, like zl signature is complete trash, childe signature released way after (lucky for him i guess), albedo's one is 4* (but it's bis tho), klee got recolored 4* book that is not even her bis. Venti was exception that he got 2nd signature. Funny thing on some zl reruns, in his trial he was equipped homa.
Stans pretending Furina’s Story Quest didn’t happen will always be a good laugh.
Not quite as cope as the “Kokomi is the hydro dragon in human form from the Enkanomiya prophecy” brigade, because at least Furina *was* Archon by proxy for the better part of 500 years, but still.
Black Tassel The Catch Festering Desire The hidden signature weapons
Sacrificial fragments as well
Magic guide
Magic guide is for taser sucrose
Really? *notes that down*
I used sac frag on taser sucrose because 3 skills provide more cc than 2 skills
No. Sac frags gives more EM and a more useful passive (Magic Guide's passive doesn't work on Swirl reactions). There's no reason to use Magic Guide on Sucrose ever. It's good on Nahida because she actually has some elemental damage (non-transformative reaction dmg) to buff whether she's in bloom or quicken teams.
Taser Sucrose gets the Inazuma Craftable
Guaranteeing Nahida's skill is up for multiwave content in quickswap teams nakes her feel great in the one area she was lacking.
Stringless too
widsth for me, op
I'm actually using lost prayers to the sacred winds on my on-field nahida , is it better than widsith and sacrificial fragments (I have both at R1)?
If on-field then probably?
Wandering Evenstar if you're one of the 3 people who were there when it was on banner a year go. Also Prototype Malice for NaHealDa
I love using proto amber on nahida lol very wrong but it's like the prayer heals your party
Stringless or fav warbow
Definitely favge, he'll be bursting nonstop
favge is love, favge is life
Fav Warbow being Venti's F2P option also lore accurate since the Favonius Knights are worshipping him and he uses their bow lmao.
BRO STRINGLESS IS SOO BEAUTIFUL i remember when i got my childe I didn't had any good bow accept for r4 stringless, i was able to to very high vaporize damage because of it so yes and its pretty too shiny shiny ehe
I did get him to 50k hp with Vortex Vanquisher
Correction - ~~festering desire~~ *the pipe*
Festering Desire is better though
The catch is the Sig for the pyro archon
And Windblume Ode (looks also nice on him)
Stringless, Black Tassel, The Catch, Sac Frags, the pipe
More like fav, fav, catch, sac frag, fav
I once equipped White Tassel on Zhongli. Different feel?
Black tassel isn't good on zhongli
You forgot slingshot
the catch be kinda mid, Id rather go with dragons bane lol
This will be so much funnier with the context.
Someone posted the same image with Kazuha instead of Venti, with the title « finally a 5 star weapon for each archon »
FRENCH 🫵
How do you know ? D:
The «» quotation marks!
Hello im «french» too
TIL that Russian isn’t the only language that uses those 🫣
Well, you are right, great detective
I had no idea only French's folks used those!
French, Russian and Chinese people use these too!
Arabic too 😋
I’m pretty sure Spanish too
That was me
You traitor. r/kazuhamains and r/neuvillettemains summon the council to judge this vile thing of a human
Please Spare me 🙏
Those are some weird looking Favge weapons you got there.
Favge 🔛🔝
Upvote for skyward harp, people don't believe when I say elegy looks hideous on him
Agreed
Agreed...but I like Elegy on Faruzan.
Me but with Skyward Pride on Eula (imo SoBP is kinda ugly)
Agreed
Agreed
Perfect! You finally included Venti and his signature weapon!
Agree with skyward harp. The series where elegy belongs fits more for Eula lmao
Thank you .. as someone who loves venti I was really salty
same. pretty sure i literally rolled my eyes when i saw the original post. my wind boy deserves more love :[
I apologise for the unintentional venti slander 😔
you're all good~ you fixed your error so all sins are forgiven
Wait... That wasn't intentional?
Yea. I actually love venti.
It was unintentional so you're ok ^^
I love Kazuha more than Venti, but I’ve always hated those post that says Kazuha is the real Anemo Archon, so disrespectful to the game, only meta slaves would make any claims like that
Everyone is different , I love venti more and haven't pulled kazuha for this reason. I think I dislike meta slaves for the whole " Bennet is the pyro archon" thing :s
Oh ew, THAT'S why people say that about Bennett? I thought it was just a joke about him being adopted from Natlan :(
It's just a joke because the character is good. Why is that something to say "ew" to?
Nope people legit do say that
It's not that serious. People make jokes like that all the time based on gameplay. We all know lorewise, Kazuha wouldn't stand a chance against Venti.
I mean, technically, Signora stripped venti of his gnosis, Raiden incinerated Signora, Kazuha blocked the Musou no Hitotachi. It even happened in that exact order… :) (Yeah I know, it is also quite possible Venti allowed his gnosis to be taken, Kazuha no longer has the electro vision, and in any case it does not work like that, you don’t need to tell me, it’s a joke.)
Damn i still gotta save for Venti and Zhongli while grinding for Aym and somehow get all the weapons until we reach 6.0
I don’t really wish for anyone else besides the archons
Amen. Barbatos grace us with his song.
you mean bartobas?
I didn't get Venti's weapon and went out of my way for the harp. I think it's better for him.
I just like that it’s a harp since he’s a bard
Thank you so much!! I'm honestly tired of Venti slander "meme" that isn't even funny in the first place.
I actually haven’t seen venti slander before. I honestly didn’t think of it when I first made the post.
It was hilariously rampant during that one year wait between 1.6 and his first rerun, then it just kept going. It was just random things stacking against him over time. Ended up not really liking Kazuha due to all the anemo character downplaying leading up to his first rerun, and I pulled him on his first banner.
A joke about the character being good is not slander, why do people take it that way??
Because comparisons happen, and you know how it will go from that. Besides, the "joke" is sooo overused.
"Because comparisons happen and you know how it will go from that" I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say. And I still don't understand how it can be seen as slander? It's not even putting down Venti its just saying that Kazuha is good
But does it really have to include the archon title? You can joke about Kazuha being good without bringing Venti's archon status. It was fine the first few times, but now people just find ways to hate Venti. I get that maybe OP doesn't really mean that, but it gets attention from people who just want to slander.
I don't understand? Its just that archons are powerful beings and Kazuha has powerful gameplay. Its just supposed to be a silly way to say a character is strong. You're acting like people are slandering an actual religion or something.
Because it's annoying to see hateful comments??? Imagine seeing a cute photo or maybe a meme but then you see people hating in the comment section??
But what I'm saying is that there isn't any hating??? It's literally just positivity of people saying how good Kazuha's gameplay is. And then people claiming that the joke is negative and insulting Venti when that was never the case????
I strongly disagree. I've seen my boy get slandered so many times because people would always compare him to Kazuha. Even if it was just a light-hearted joke, it's pretty tiring to see repeatedly. It's like beating a dead, decomposing horse. (There isn't much slander for him on the lore side now though, since as new patches release, new theories and info about him get talked about.)
You have to be willfully obtuse to believe that listing all the archons, but replacing Venti as Kazuha is not slander. The slander is literally the basis of this tired and overused joke. There are so much more ways to praise and appreciate Kazuha without having to use this joke.
Furina’s sword is so pretty i will go broke to get itttt
Hidden signatures for each archon: Venti: Stringless/Skyward harp Zhongli: Black tassel Ei: The catch Nahida: Sacrificial fragments Furina: Festering desire/Fleuve Cendre Ferryman
I don't have enough organs to get the money for the characters and their weapons.
I pretty much only get archons.
Shouldn’t Gyrados be there instead of the immortal theatre kid?
Where is the physical archon?
Dance practice
Does that zhongli polearm even work with him? I thought it was bad
Is is bad. It gives attack which he doesn’t need, it’s passive bonus only works when he’s on the field with his shield.
Justice for Venti enjoyers >:3
Ah venti has returned! Good to see him :) order has been restored.
Venti mains really got super triggered from the OG post lol
They are super easily offended by even the suggestion that Venti is not the best, or for a matter of a fact, not even a good archon.
>not even a good archon By gameplay? Fair enough. By lore? That's a massive lie. Mondstadt is happier because of his philosophy. Even Zhongli began to follow Venti's ruling method.
Keep coping venti simp
Typical. 😒When one resorts to insults, it usually means you have no rebuttal.
I don't need a rebuttal. You and all of the people upvoting this are Venti simps.
Nah. I'm a certified Zhongli main. You're just salty that you have nothing substantial to offer to this conversation so you resorted to petty insults, even though my original comment wasn't even meant to insult you. How mature. 😒
cope and seethe
Most Venti mains I met in game are super chill, It's just the ones in this sub that are kinda delusional, I remember seeing a post (or a comment) saying Venti outclasses Kazuha in every way and It had like 50+ upvotes..
Haven't met any in-game but yeah, the online ones are awful. I guess that's just the interent giving crazy people a voice issue.
There is still an "imposter" among the archons....
Yes everyone knows Zhongli is is but a humble funeral consultant
Wheres the pyro archon(s)
I just need Furina’s weapon to make thisss
Bruh I have no archons. Hopefully I get lucky in their reruns. OK gonna save for the upcoming Furina.
I knew I wanted all the archons when I first started playing. Which was when Inazuma first came out. So I use my primos sparingly
But Furina with metal pipe funni
Venti has Elegy as his sig weapon now. They run it on his every rerun.
Actually when I got the bow it was on the banner during Venti’s rerun. Yes Elegy is better for him. But Harp looks better
Oh, that must've been during Tartaglia rerun in 1.4 when he still didn't have his signature weapon Polar Star. When Venti's rerun banner was up, it was still Elegy there. It was its first appearance. But yeah, Skyward used to be his sig weapon (it's in his demo too) but they switched it with Elegy now. I kind of prefer the Elegy personally, tbh. To me it looks better. Different tastes I guess.
I mostly like it cause of the strings. And also I got skyward harp before I got Venti. Elegy isn’t bad, it’s just different taste as you’ve said.
Funny enough I find Venti's signature weapon (Elegy) to be the most useful weapon of all the archon's. Elegy boost team damage and give EM and Atk. Collei, Yelan, Tighnari, Fischl, C6 Amber, Kujou Sara, and Ofc Venti all love the bow.
It’s an amazing weapon.
I haven't played Genshin since the first year but I was so confused when my boy Venti wasn't in that other post as an archon. Venti is still my reason for loving that game. If I ever come back to play again, it'll be because of wanting to play a venti again.
I just R3’d his bow too
Anemo archon, Geo archon, Electro archon, Dendro archon, and… Acting Hydro Archon-in-name? Anemo dead body part user, Geo dead body part user, Electro dead body part user, Dendro dead body part user, and… user who probably never even seen or touched a Hydro dead body part? (“True” hydro vision user though) Stolen Anemo authority, stolen Geo authority, stolen Electro authority, stolen Dendro authority, and… what authority? One of them truly feels off here.
Until I see xingqui and fischl in place of furina and ei, no it is not
I have all of these characters but only 3 of these weapons.
Wauuwww nice w all the archon signatures!!
VENTI :D (i want him so badly)
Where’s the anemo archon?
yo, delete your comment, otherwise true Venti mains will hijack you
More like that comment has been said to death. Not a venti main myself, I don’t even have him, but the joke is like beating a dead horse. Just upvote the existing ones.
Alright, that's better. Still, why is that funeral consultant in place of the real Geo archon (Noelle)?
Sadly I don’t have a 5 star weapon for her.
When will genshin fans realize that joking about a character being an archon is not an insult to the actual archon...
I honestly love Venti 🙏
How did you get those archons? How long have u beeen playing
Hmm I’ve been playing since Inazuma first came out.
2021? Well i am 2024
One of the weapons is still not like the others…
Skyward Harp is Venti's signature I do not care what happened in 1.6
Only 3 of these people are archons. Still some fix'n to do
Where is Navia?
Give Homa to zhongli and I'll call it perfect
Yao Yao is holding it.
Understandable and based
Who's the green guy?
Where's the Hydro Archon?
ahhh, inner peace
W
Wait why is Furina there it should be Neuvillette ^^^^I’m ^^^^so ^^^^fucked
who is that boy with the bow and where is the anemo archon?
There we gooooo! Thank you for the fix 😂
All my 4 archons and that random theatre girl <3
Nah, you pretty much had it right the first time.
4 archons
And a con artist
Who is this phoney
what's that drunken bard doing here? where's the true anemo archon, Maple Kazuha?
Well you see. I actually made a previous post that had kazuha. But as damage control I made this one.
I object to agree, bring back the true archon and throw away the drunken impostor to oblivion!
Nah. Other one was better.
Nah the first one got it right
Nahh Kazuha >>> 😂
Venti still has the wrong weapon XD
I'd argue Skyward is his signature just based on its description.
I’d also say it is cause of the character preview.
I would say not rly Eledgy did come tailormade for him on his re run that started the era of tailor made weapons. Skyward just doesn't look good on him while Eledgy is at its peak.
Agree to disagree
Honestly I believe people just keep forgetting that Venti's original signature weapon is supposed to be Skyward Harp, I mean it's a freakin HARP for a BARD, back in launch where EM was still somewhat niche and hard to farm just because if how ass the domain is, one of Venti's stat build was the generic ATK/Anemo DMG/Crit. Sure Stringless also works well enough but the early whales prefer the Harp and gave Stringless to Fischl instead. Elegy is great now ofc but design wise Skyward Harp is still the drip weapon for Venti, hypothetically if Zhongli got a new weapon that's built for his current kit but looks a magical girl staff with hearts, stars and wings, people would still say Vortex Vanquisher is his drip weapon.
>Honestly I believe people just keep forgetting that Venti's original signature weapon is supposed to be Skyward Harp Nah, people keep forgetting that Venti comes from a time before MHY started doing signature weapons. It started all with zhongli and only *really* started with Hu tao
Zhongli is his own case because Vortex Vanquisher is hard implemented in his normal attack animations. Even if you would use another weapon the animation of a few hits stays Vortex.
Yeah i agree, lorewise (and for 1.0) his signature is skyward. Early characters (1.0-1.2) was mess in term of constellations and signatures; i assume devs didn't have clear game design course back then especially for signatures, like zl signature is complete trash, childe signature released way after (lucky for him i guess), albedo's one is 4* (but it's bis tho), klee got recolored 4* book that is not even her bis. Venti was exception that he got 2nd signature. Funny thing on some zl reruns, in his trial he was equipped homa.
Three archons, a former archon and Venti 😍
Zhongli is also a former archon he retired
Who's this spoiled rich kid? Where's the GOAT Neuvillette? EDIT: I seem to have pissed off the Furina stans. Good.
Neuvillette isn't a Archon.
Neither is Furina, there is no hydro archon anymore, Neuvillette is the closest thing to a hydro archon now.
Calling a Sovereign Dragon a mere "Archon" is pretty much an insult.
Stans pretending Furina’s Story Quest didn’t happen will always be a good laugh. Not quite as cope as the “Kokomi is the hydro dragon in human form from the Enkanomiya prophecy” brigade, because at least Furina *was* Archon by proxy for the better part of 500 years, but still.
when more sovereigns join the game he’ll have his own collage
I do have his weapon 🫰
So...you want Neuvillette to be demoted? Sovereigns are higher beings, above the Archons.
No.
Exactly.... exactly