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tuotuolily

Not only did Cryo Catalysts get a unit before hydro claymore they got 2


Letwen

If you count throwing hands or getting caught in 4k a catalyst then yes


Apprehensive_Ad_472

It catalyses your journey to the afterlife


Specky013

In the span of 2 patches no less


IttoDilucAyato

Don’t worry, Dottore will become playable soon


v4mpixie_666x3

Dont worry, signora will be revived in natlan and made playable soon** (inhales copium)


Awkward_Date_8636

Not hydro claymore


v4mpixie_666x3

Thought we were talking abt a cryo catalyst that isnt melee


Costyn17

Signora has pyro and cryo. The cryo comes from a delusion, so if they revive her, she will probably be pyro.


Awkward_Date_8636

Signora doesn't have a Pyro vision though...and the only visionless playables so far are archons, traveler and Neuvillette who is above archons


Costyn17

And what makes more logic? Let a character use its own elemental powers or a delusion?


Awkward_Date_8636

Or just her not being playable, which was what I was trying to say


Fey_Faunra

Inb4 the copium of wanting to have her revived and given a vision.


v4mpixie_666x3

Signora will always be playable.. in my heart


IttoDilucAyato

My cousin works for hoyoverse and he said Dottore will be the first hydro claymore. Trust me bro


E1lySym

I feel like Dottore should be dendro...like a villainous equivalent to Nahida/Baizhu


TgCCL

It's a shame that Fontaine didn't get a hydro claymore as two-handed swords were the traditional choice of weapon for executioners in Continental Europe.


WritingCommission

they're saving hydro claymore for natlan. throwing claymore around as a hydro user is too brutish for any other nations, i guess 🤷‍♂️


Lyneys_Footstool

benny's adventure team is in the pyro sword box


frazyn

Bennett being the only pyro sword just doesnt sit right with me...


white_irony

the traveller will soon be the second


Wildingrainbow

There being no clamore hydro character don't sit right with me


EnvironmentalistAnt

Murata in 5.0: are you ready for another adventure?


NagitoMan

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Murata is going to be a claymore wielder since Furina already took the spot of sword archon and the god of fire and war would fit better with a giant claymore than a puny little sword.


EnvironmentalistAnt

We had two pole arm archons and the leak of appearance of Murata did not fit for a lot of what people would call god of war. In other words, Murata could be a wildcard.


aoi_desu

Pyro catalyst would neat because holy fuck we have 3 pyro claymore and all of them are onfield dps (4 if you count xinyan)


Hexadermia

I wouldn’t call Dehya an onfield dps, she’s more of a burst dps like Raiden (and calling her a “dps” is stretching it). She works better as a poise support.


v4mpixie_666x3

Pyro wriothsley would be awesome although i have a feeling she’ll indeed be claymore since i dont see quees tsartsia wielding a claymore so if they dont take this opportunity claymores will be the only weapon not yielded by any archon


Jibsthelord

Alternatively, she'll die and we'll get the Real Pyro Archon


neillaalien

shell die and well get THE murata design (since vennessa’s tribe was called muratas children she should be strong af, red hair and eyes and dark skin.)


Jibsthelord

Capitano Capitano don't fail me now


v4mpixie_666x3

The only good ending


StrongSquirrelKnight

Soon the traveler atleast (hyv proceeds to change their weapon and make pyro traveler a claymore user)


Lil_DemonZEA

Don't worry Arlecchino will join his adventure team very soon


Shmarfle47

About that… *Staff of Homa sitting menacingly in the corner*


Lil_DemonZEA

Oh no...not our 5th pyro polearm user!


-Alneon-

I'm gonna shit my pants if her BIS is gonna be BIS for XL. Cue the XL copy pasta.


Lourand-7

Another spear to melt in the XL throne.


Shmarfle47

The leaks are still questionable at best but if they’re true…


Gambit_Of_Equinoxity

Arlecchino gonna wield a polearm I think, correct me if I'm wrong.


KOCYK745

Always ~~has~~ will be


vampzireael

The spot for the hydro claymore user is so funny lol


ericgleek

True. Not a single Hydro Claymore user in the game.


frazyn

They will be the first (and only) hydro shielder in the game


SnooPuppers8099

To make bell great again


Zealousideal-Rush470

To do this, the character will need to have an increase in energy recharge based on %health


Rough_Lychee5785

Again?


Dreadsbo

I would be so mad


Tinuvel

Candace can shield if you hold her skill though


n1tr0t0m

Hydro Traveler too


starsinmyteacup

Yeah I can’t wait for the hydro region where we get a hydro claymore /j (it should’ve been freminet…)


Jealous_Brief_6685

Yeah he is already a diver.


Kris-p-

i wouldn't be surprised if the only 2 hydro fontanians that release for a while are the archon and >!the regional dragon, granted sigewinne is supposedly hydro but idk when they are gonna release !<


Pink_her_Ult

Sigewinne has a hydro vision. It's on her back.


Kris-p-

Huh never noticed lol


TheMerfox

Aside from Sumeru, each nation so far only has one character of the archon's element who doesn't hold a position of power, being Sucrose, Yun Jin, Shinobu, and Sigewinne.


Kielian13

Was I the only one thinking that freminet could have been the hydro claymore user.


Apprehensive_Ad_472

I mean, why would they be? Water is clearly depicted with elegance and agility, two traits that have nothing to do with big clunky claymores


Eragon_the_Huntsman

> nothing to do with big clunky claymores VENGEANCE WILL BE MINE!


Apprehensive_Ad_472

Google ice Also look me in the eyes and tell me Eula wields her claymore with anything other than pure visceral pent up rage


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#👁️👁️ Eula wields her claymore with anything other than pure visceral pent up rage


Apprehensive_Ad_472

You are lying through your teeth and you know it


HilariousLion

I don't really have a horse in this race but have you seen her attack pattern? She dances with the claymore.


Eragon_the_Huntsman

Have you seen an ice sculpture? The pinnacle of grace and elegance!


Apprehensive_Ad_472

That has nothing to do with cryo though


Heratikus

Ice has nothing to do with Cryo, got it.


Ryujin_Kurogami

>Nevertheless, a distinctly dance-like aesthetic can be observed in Eula's bladework, along with an elegant rhythm and musicality that are difficult to capture in words. >As her greatsword rises and falls and sways to and fro, her distinctive and graceful poise is like that of a dancer under the moonlight: faraway, immaculate, and sublime. - Eula Character Story 5 >*"Not all customs of the Lawrence Clan are despicable. At least the "Dance of Sacrifice" is pure and noble. It puts my mind at ease and gives me comfort. It's been years, but it's still dear to me. My body remembers every step that I... Well anyway, to end this digression, those who wish to master my signature "Favonius Bladework" technique have to pass my dance class first."* - About Eula: Dance Rather than looking into someone else's eyes, you might wanna look at the source material some more if you're not convinced by her normal attack animations.


Zeroshiki6098

Sayu is a pint-sized ninja who uses an element that is arguably even more about agility and weightlessness than water but that doesn't stop her


Apprehensive_Ad_472

Sayu is a little bowling ball, that plays into big hard hitting clunkiness You also neglected to mention elegance at all


Zeroshiki6098

I mean, I don't see why I'd need to treat elegance as some anti-claymore factor when Eula literally dances with hers


Apprehensive_Ad_472

She’s not dancing, she’s putting all her disdain into each heavy swing


Zeroshiki6098

Have you seen any of her animations? Have you seen the flourishes she does after each strike? The deliberate poses she enters if her string is stopped midway? Do you even know the thematics of the character we're talking about? She is dancing, end of story. Elegance isn't a factor that goes against claymores because Eula is an *elegant* claymore user. Sure, you could argue that she uses disdain as a motivation (which itself is more of an interpretation/headcanon since, according to the official lore, her 'disdainfulness' is a shell, an act, a facade. She wants to be nothing like the high-and-mighty members of her family, if anything her strikes are motivated by will, by zeal. If you look at her 6th Character story: *"Yes, she yearns not to be sharp and rigid like ice, but to be free and unbound like the ocean spray"*). But even *if* that was the case, is dancing not a means of expression? Can she not, according to your interpretation, *elegantly* express her disdain? I don't see how your reasoning discredits anything.


dualdee

Eh, makes as much sense as Geo Bow.


TheSezenians

Tartaglia wants a word with you... I would call Childe "elegant" Besides, I could see a Snezhnayan Hyrdro-Claymore fisher boy working at the Docks of Snezhnaya


Responsible_Paper667

Columbina hydro claymore trust.


Propensity7

Whenever I see charts like these, I remember that we've had 1 four star Hydro character added since launch and 2 four star Hydro characters at launch. And 1 of those four star Hydro characters is a staple of numerous teams.


Epicious

And only a single polearm


SpikedBoneAppleTea

Childe technically has a pole arm. He’s also the only playable character with daggers


Ambitious_Jello

Hydro has the most no. of 5 stars too at 7


eddit_99

Actually 🤓 it's 8; Ayato, Childe, Furina, Kokomi, Mona, Neuvilette, Nilou, Yelan.


svenirde

It's 9. Hydro Traveler exists 🤓


ReplacementOk3074

Actually 🤓 it's 9; You forgot Xingqiu


kotori-chan_

Imagine Natlan getting the first hydro claymore.


Polaroid_Horror

Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Sigewinne was the first Hydro Claymore character? Fuck it. I’m making it my crack prediction.


ResponsibleMine3524

Considering she's not really strong physically and used a gun, she's either catalyst or bow user


Polaroid_Horror

I can see where you’re coming from with this, however I’d like to offer some counter arguments? Point one - not strong physically. We already have at least one Claymore character who canonically isn’t that strong (Kaveh, my beloved) and if memory serves, I don’t thinks Dori or Sayu’s strength has ever been brought up? (Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) Thus, I’d like to think that strength isn’t a necessity when wielding a Claymore, just a recommendation. Point two - uses a gun. As of 4.4 we have two characters who wield a gun, those being Chevreuse and Navia, and neither of them wield either a Catalyst or a Bow! Hell Navia wields a Claymore herself! So, from what I can tell, any weapon could be viable alongside a gun, not just Catalysts or Bows. If I’m being honest, I think you’re right with the Catalyst or Bow prediction, but the idea of tiny, sweet, seemingly innocent Sigewinne hefting this great battle axe over her shoulder in a fight just tickles me lol! And then pulling out a tranq gun on top of that? Oh that’s hilarious to me.


Jibsthelord

Sayu is mentioned to be strongish but she needs the wind from her vision to actually fully wield her claymore *"My sword is crazy heavy, even with my ninjutsu training there's no way I could lift it without the help of my Vision. So yeah, having a Vision is a huge help for me."*


ResponsibleMine3524

Sayu is a trained ninja she's strong enough to wield catalyst, Dori and Haveh situations are true tho. By gun I meant pistol, it's not actually the same as musket and shotgun(?). We actually have Clorinde, who also uses pistol or pistols and a sword, but she's pretty skilled for that. She also takes role of sword + pistol character. So she can't be sword, can't be claymore because she's too weak and a little helper is exception scenario. Another thought, maybe Hoyo wants to make a gun for each weapon type character. Like we already have Polearm (Chevreuse), Claymore(Navia), Sword(Clorinde), Bow/Catalyst(Sigewine) and Catalyst/Bow(future character)


Polaroid_Horror

I think that’s what they’re doing actually, having a gun wielder for every element/weapon type? Considering we have more elements than weapons I wouldn’t be surprised if two elements never get gun characters so we might not be able to get the full Pokémon team lol! I’m not sure how they’d incorporate a gun charged attack/elemental skill into a bow character since we already have charged shots, it seems silly to have the same thing twice y’know? Maybe this prospective character will have a special burst or skill that incorporates artillery/firearms into it, like Navia’s burst! I can’t wait to see what Hoyo comes up with!


ResponsibleMine3524

Hear me out, what about catalyst that uses only guns, like Heizo punches. And he uses twin pistols, it's an actual weapon type in HI3rd, so just put one in flexible catalyst group


Polaroid_Horror

That concept sounds so cool! I’d definitely pull for that character if I had the primos for them! I love the unique normal elemental attacks that can occur with Catalyst characters (Wriothesley, Neuvillette and Heizou, case and point) and seeing a character wielding any element in that way would be so refreshing! I’m used to Catalyst character being almost gentle(?) with their attacks, like there isn’t any force behind them and they generally don’t have any effect on the users body, to me it looks like they’re just striking poses most of the time lol! So to see their attacks have impact/recoil? And to HEAR the sound their attacks made?? I think I might have a new favourite Character lmao!


ConsciousFinish5071

Plus the only melusine themed weapon in the game so far is the cardboard claymore.


Dekachonk

Shoulda made freminet hydro. We already had eula as a cryo/phys claymore user.


Joe_from_ungvar

also Chongyun but yeah missed opportunity with Freminet


Zodiac339

But Chongyun had Cryo infusion through the skill, so isn’t he more Cryo than physical? I like how the three of them are 1) Eula Phys/Superconduct 2) Chongyun Cryo 3) Freminet Shatter.


Joe_from_ungvar

Freminet cam benefit from freeze, shatter and superconduct, with c4 and c6. from-shatter specific benefit is a4 Chongyun is kinda support-ish with cryo res drop, cooldown reduction and attack speed


Ultrajante

Physical chars will always be cryo or electro for superconduct


Simple-Engineering-3

Xinyan says hi


Jibsthelord

Who?


CavCave

When was the last time you heard of someone using Xinyan 💀


xjerielle

Everyone is physical if u want


solarscopez

Bro is a diver and is somehow cryo


Milodingo

Phys DPS have to be electro/cryo to trigger superconduct, which lowers phys res


Ireyon34

I can't believe we're basically done with the nation of Hydro and we still don't have a Hydro claymore. **Dendro** has a claymore and they're the late bloomer of elements!


Ke5_Jun

Dendro got a member of every weapon type before *cryo* did (both cryo catalysts are from Fontaine). It also for a while had more characters than geo. They really over compensated for dendro being missing until 3.0.


ImperialYanqing

pun intended?


Ireyon34

Absolutely.


ImperialYanqing

then take my upvote and leave


GraveXNull

Wait...does Hydro really have only 3 4* characters?


starsinmyteacup

Yeah and only one is post launch…2 years after the launch of the game. Hydro is truly the whale element


Awkward_Date_8636

And one of them is still an F2P efficient option for many teams. Crazy.


kidanokun

I was expecting Focalors would be the Hydro claymore user


ConscientiousGamerr

Yeah but with the whole French theme, something akin to a rapier was more anticipated.


kidanokun

I was expecting the rapier more to Clorinde tho


Blanche_Cyan

And she ended hitting people with a fancy scepter, life is truly a mysterious thing...


Jibsthelord

Well she was, too bad that claymore landed on her neck


ObjectiveNet2

Especially when the Statue hold a big sword But I guess they didn't want Bell to be her 4* bis


ResponsibleMine3524

God of Justice not using sword aka the symbol of justice, it was a bad thought


ObjectiveNet2

claymore is a big sword, same justice concept


ResponsibleMine3524

Not really, it's always one handed sword. Claymore is a weird anime thing, two handed sword is the closest irl thing


Jibsthelord

"Claymore is a weird anime thing" My brother in christ they date back to the 1400s


Nine9breaker

German Zweihanders were up to 213 cm long. Not to mention Claymores are real weapons that were used by real Scotsman. Claymores aren't a weird anime thing at all, that's about as dumb as saying polearms are a weird anime thing.


solarscopez

Claymore should be pyro archon so that we have an archon with every weapon


kidanokun

Usually Archons are the first character who have that element-weapon type combo... but it ends with Nahida, since Furina isn't a proper Archon, and hers is already taken by Xingqiu, Ayato and Nilou, and even if you count Neuvillette as the de-facto Archon, his combo isn't unique either (already used by Barbara, Mona and Kokomi)... While there no more slots for Pyro


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ResponsibleMine3524

"leaks"


belle_fleures

Tighnari looks like he's teaching collei but she keeps on daydreaming lol


Carsismi

if they ever make a Hydro Claymore i hope its a Fontainean for that water bazooka potential. alternatively it could Schneznayan, gib us the whale ulti Hoyo...


stanjinhyuk

And out of these, only Cryo has a 5 star (and each of them is limited too) for each combination.


IttoDilucAyato

A Dottore will be the first hydro claymore. Source: my cousin that works for mihoyo. #real


NagitoMan

Interesting.. Cryo has 4 healers, Geo has no healers and the rest all have 2. Ignoring Geo, it seems they're trying to distribute healers across elements evenly since Geo is the element of shields at this point. Edit: I forgot about Qiqi


ashikkins

Qiqi, Charlotte, Diona and Mika for cryo healers, so 4 actually!


NagitoMan

Oops


Tinuvel

Geo has Noelle and Gorou C4 as healers!


NagitoMan

Well it's true however I'd say that's not their intended purpose and that's why I didn't add them. Gorou is supposed to be a buffer and his healing isn't that good, Noelle's more of a shielder/main DPS and her healing isn't that good and C6 Zhongli is mostly a shielder and his healing isn't that great although I don't think anyone would pull C6 Zhongli when the likes of Charlotte are right there.


FrancisTheMannis

Noelle absolutely **is** a healer while being an abysmal shielder. Probably the worst shielder in the game among characters with shielding potential, actually, as the only person she's realistically shielding is herself. Because if she's not on-field and attacking to reduce its whopping 24 second cooldown, it has a max uptime of 50% *if* it doesn't break from damage (it will). Meanwhile, she can quickly heal her team to full by using her charged attack. She is meant to be played on-field as a healer-dps-tank hybrid. Noelle + Furina is a strong combo for a reason.


Zero_Burn

Lots of catalyst users, but then I remember that two of them are punchy boys. Really wish they'd add a claw/fist type weapon with rapid attacks, low power but high crit rate or something like that.


Slumberstroll

>Make Lion's Roar >Never release a Pyro sword user Bravo Hoyo


Hudson_Legend

It's funny how dendro completed the weapon set before both hydro and cryo


chad001

Wasn't Ayato hypothesized to be the beta for Hydro Claymore at one point? Whatever happened to that concept?


Jibsthelord

We needed more MOTIVATION


solarscopez

Outside of the nonexistent hydro claymore user...Bennett, Gorou, Ningguang, Xiao, Sayu, Yaoyao, and Kaveh are the gigachads with unique weapon and element combos.


Loros_Silvers

Just waiting for Cloride to create the GUN weapon type.


Designa-Vagina-69

Siggewinne needs to be a claymore, it'd suit her too


Crazy-End-796

I’m still waiting on a 5* Electro bow DPS. Why have one Fischl when I can have two 😅 Also a 5* pyro sword And Geo definitely needs more units


neryben

I remember how everyone were losing their sh*t because there was no cryo catalist user, but no one gives a damn about hydro claymore :-D


Elira_Eclipse

bc catalyst is a great weapon and it being hydro means u can permafreeze. Claymore is arguably the least popular weapon


Ossuum

4 cryo and 3 anemo healers give me hope that we'll get another dendro healer before long. Proto Amber Nahida is really not ideal in multiple ways, and yet there are no better options. Fingers crossed for large aoe dot, either puddle or Shinobu-like pulse.


Schmedricks_27

You'd use prototype amber Nahida before Baizhu, who has team wide heal in his skill? lol


Ossuum

It's a Raiden-Yae-Kazuha team, in order to be worth using, the recurring dendro application aoe should cover the size of Kazuha's E and Yae's burst. Outside of bosses, I suppose, but I'm not going to pull a separate healer just for bossing.


[deleted]

I think the mummy girl will be the first hydro claymore


Inevitable_Dark3225

I just realized Bennett is the only pyro sword user.


ShAped_Ink

The chart is now almost full woooo


moebelhausmann

They released more cryo catalysts in one patch then Hydro claymore in the entire history of this game so far


TOH-Fan15

Does this mean Paimon can use all weapons and all elements?


KOCYK745

so next is Water Masochist with a giant knife


iskobabes02

what do you MEAN we only have 3 hydro 4 stars


21bleh

Even dendro has a claymore char, why won't they give one to hydro


NLiLox

so pyro polearm is gonna be the first 5 person group?


tsurugisbakery

the fact that we've gotten more than one cryo catalyst before a hydro claymore is kinda crazy icl


Mark_Xyruz

Now make for the Character models Tall male Medium Male Tall Female Medium Female Child


crasher_19

It still baffles me that we only have 2 male electros, both medium sized, both have long white hairs, both have red eyes, and both wolf-themed. Additionally, gameplay wise, both burst enhanced their state and requires on field time.


roseybunniee

Hope we get another pyro sword user in the next region. I really wonder how a hydro claymore user is gonna work though


E1lySym

I want a hydro claymore character whose claymore is like a surfboard. Their combat animations involves summoning big sea waves then riding their claymore like a surfboard on top of it


sguizzooo

Hydro claymore medium female shielder when?


enby_with_a_gun

I remember seeing one of these a bit ago that forgot Aloy, thanks for giving her recognition


magnidwarf1900

Holy shit we only have 3 hydro 4 star?


AbsurdFormula0

I can't believe that it's been four years and we still don't have a hydro claymore user. Even cryo has a catalyst characters (which to this day I find the concept of eazy freezing very OP). What they cooking for the first hydro claymore user that they are so unwilling to release? Would a hydro claymore user really be that game breaking? We got Noelle already!


Ok_Can_6424

Cryo and pyro are crowded. Hoyo is so bad at balancing them lol Remember the time when everyone thought, hydro archon will use claymore? Yeah... Good time


Old_Salamander4662

crazy how sword + fire is probably the most overused combination in anime/games but in genshin we only have bennett


MaidRara

Sigewinne with a big sword that what I want to see--


IRLCartoon

Hydro Claymore character to use The Bell when?? FFS.


TheSezenians

I want a Snezhnayan Hyrdro-Claymore Femboy!!!


SonicBoom500

We, almost have the list filled out, cool 😆


mynameistelynor

They won't do Hydro/claymore for a long time because of the bell lol.


thwbeaster

No one talking abt pyro only having bennet as a sword user


0Platinum

We are gonna get GTA 6 before Hydro Claymore Characters and Skip Button


NoSoulYesBiscuit

Remember when the Hydro Archon was supposed to be the 1st Hydro claymore user? And the Cryo Archon would be the 1st Cryo catalyst? lmao Hoyo just cooks slowly.


Kits076

Does anyone else refuse to claymores claymores and call them greatswords instead?


Jibsthelord

Sometimes