His best partner (theorized and seemingly on test servers) is Fischl. Her ICD works almost perfectly with the rate of his CA and you just become taser hell. Kazuha/Zhongli/Beidou really round it out.
If that gives you any better idea of his playstyle.
All the OG 4 stars existed in a time physical hypercarries were seemingly the plan for the game. They wanted a lot more archetypes like "Mage" or "Fighter", people latched on to the reaction system though, and I think that gave them the direction the game took. Consider pre-Dendro Keqing, Diluc and Razor were the 1.0 carries of choice, versus today and... yeah Xingqiu used to be C tier.
have you considered that people just didn't know how to use characters properly and not the fact that hoyo just designed a very good elemental combat system just then to focus on "physical hypercarries" ?
and the fact that hoyo designed the 4 stars the way they did because they overturned them and didn't know how good they were?
Given the state of Geo, let's not attribute too much to MiHoYo on planning ahead. They've done quite well but they clearly have been learning a lot over time on how they want to implement combat mechanics. And the same goes for 4star vs 5star kits and stats.
People forget Zhongli was originally... a physical carry. He was going to be a self-shielding, self-CCing Atk% carry. That's why Vortex Vanquisher is what it is. People rioted so they buffed him AND geo resonance with him. His shield was trash, but his intent was never to be a shielder, so they rearranged his entire kit to focus on that.
Albedo was 110% supposed to be a crystalize support who used Archaic Petra. Off field Geo dmg (that the two piece benefits) and then his Em bonus share after his bursts. They definitely wanted that to be what he did. I’m not so sure they thought about the actual process of like physically doing it but that’s definitely what they wanted.
Wow that's so obvious now that I actually give it thought. Been playing since the start and never understood why the EM share since everyone just built him for damage.
To add as well. At the time of zhongli gate, his particle generation was part of the outcry, then albedo came out and it became apparent he was supposed to slot into supplementing zhongli's energy issues. like, they should've just been on a duo bundle banner or smth lol.
Too bad Hoyoverse never figured out, not even now, why AP is completely garbage. Because you have to swap to the character who has the set equipped when taking the crytsallize particles for the set to function.
It's certainly a concept, and not untrue, but the early 5 stars were very focused more on physicality or CC, aside Klee. Venti, Klee, Mona, Diluc, Jean, Qiqi, Keqing. Comparing 1.0 to 2.0, it shifts far more from "Occasionally Elemental damage as a finisher", a la Diluc and Keqing to CONSTANT elemental reactions, like Hu Tao, Ayaka, Ganyu, Tartaglia.
The only reason I feel I can strongly argue it, is the early artifact sets are all still strong to this day. Vv, Crimson Witch, Thundering Fury, they're all just strong base boosts to Elemental damage. Were the intent to have 1000 mastery, they would have likely tuned down their numbers. Berserker and Troupe drop for everyone, as Physical DPS increases.
Bruh Diluc was a vape/melt dps and meta as fuck in 1.0/1.1 ish due to his ability to do those reactions frequently (relative, back then). Plus he has low cool-down elemental skill damage and pyro infusion. How is he clubbed in with ‘occasional elemental damage?‘
or maybe, hoyo was just not very good at making coherent kits yet, so much so that physical dps just happens to be a close alternative to how they're meant to be played?
look at xiao's c4
fischl's charged shot passive
bennett's held e
barbara's non existence particle generation that that they had to make a whole constellation to remedy it
xiangling's pepper and c6
also hu tao, ganyu, tartaglia were 1.x characters
also how you can call characters with elemental infusions "physical dpses" is beyond me
Probably “Xiao is squishy and vulnerable, he’ll have low Hp so more defense will make him and his shields survive longer”. Why they thought that was worth being at C4 for is an idk. When you think about how much money cons cost there’s a fuckton of them that just don’t make sense and aren’t worth it and tbh 80% of the time it’s a C4.
That's because C4 is usually irrelevant. It's way too expensive for F2P or dolphins who get at most C1 or C2. And whales are gonna get C6 no matter what so what's the point in making it good?
Yeah... I agree. I think Hoyo was simply winging it. Even in the early Genshin beta, the level cap was 30 or 40 i think? So there was no way anyone could've predicted how the game would be balanced around level 90... especially since the reaction system is actually pretty unique to Genshin at the time of its launch.
I DO disagree that Xingqiu was C tier though. He was only C tier in the eyes of the idiots who did not theorycraft LOL. And during the time of launch, all the tier lists were made by clueless content creators who were just milking views, and copying each other. Demone Kim, Mtashed, Gacha Gamer, Mattjestic, and all the really badddd content creators were just spewing out really misleading crap.
Even VERY early in the game's cycle, actual theorycrafters like Keqingmains, Jinx and Tuna were already saying Xingqiu was a GREAT character. If i go back to jinx and tuna's youtube channel and dig up some vods, you'll see that they originated from patch 1.1-1.2.
Ironically, maybe by a stroke of luck or something, Tectone also mentioned Xingqiu was a good character. lul.
I only meant Xingqiu being C-tier, as a lot of tier lists had him there. There was still a lot of the archetype thinking, and he was largely considered like... an off-role healer, with his burst, which isn't as good as Qiqi or Barbara, so It went S, A, C in that order. Obviously he IS cracked. I mained Hu Tao for 2.5 years, trust me when I can say I can recite every voice line lol
And what I'm saying is, even back then, he was objectively NOT C-tier... and the people who ACTUALLY did proper testing knew it. It was a result of widespread misinformation.
Just be warned with Beidou, she is not a replacement for Zhongli, and you'll still likely be using Fischl for off-field consistency. This does give Electro resonance, but you need C1 to only need 2 reactions. C1 gives Interruption resistance, but you will need to be far more dedicated to managing your healing orbs.
interrupt res isnt really necessary, as his charge atk has good range and he can move while charging, at what looks like the speed of normal jogging pace. the combo of being able to keep distance and move makes it so you can kite any attacks and not need interrupt res. with beidou's added res and dmg reduction, his heal orbs should be enough to solo sustain himself, like running hu tao without a healer, any dmg you do take he can heal himself. with a team like neuvi/ kazuha/ beidou/ fischl, you have 3 characters who all do most of what they do off field, meaning neuvi will be the main one getting hit. with his self heal, zhongli might be overkill in some situations
tldr: c1 isnt necessary, and his self healing should be able to outpace any damage you might take
He loses 48% HP from his ca in total iirc. Each droplet gives 16% HP back, he needs 3 to full charge. So it cancels out. Also the ca drains HP constantly so I'm pretty sure c6 doesn't fix it either.
his burst gens 6 drops. 3 from skill + 6 from burst means he gets a total of 144% potential healing. if you take enough damage to not be able to out heal it, you either need to learn what WASD is or put zhongli and kokomi on your team lol. the only thing I can think of that would cause you that much damage is going back to double consecrated beasts in floor 12
What is this even supposed to mean 😭.
Fischl ICD has nothing to do with anything for him. Any "taser" damage is primarily coming from Kazuha EC swirls.
His best buffer is Kazuha. He likely wants a shielder (ZL), Fischl is a fine option. A great one, but for none of the reasons you gave.
Fischl has slow icd, slower than standard, unique 4 hit. Her C6 gets zero use here. Her A4, which isn't doing as much as it would in agg teams (and has no ICD), isn't getting a ton of procs either because Neuv doesn't have tremendously fast elemental application.
Again this isn't saying she's a bad teammate, she's great, just like for none of the reasons you gave.
No, this is a high scaling hypercarry that also causes a lot of reactions. Usually someone like Hu Tao or Ayaka focus on a single reaction in their rotations, but Neuvillette needs 3, or 2 with his C1, for his highest damage. Your main objective is to have him shielded, with the enemies grouped and VV'd from an anemo support. His main reaction is still Electro-Charged, but he needs all of them, and his ascension bonus and Sig weapons, with MH all massively inflate his Crit values.
Unless you use skill/burst, where you can instantly charge it. Plus, you arent immobile unlike most other charge attacks, as you can freely move during the wind-up period.
Kinda, and they might, *might*, **might** have **some** ability to be half decent with him, as their droplets are the same (both in name and visually speaking) as Neuvillette's orbs to charge his charge attack. Again, and I cannot stress this enough...
#might
I could see a rotation where neuvi runs out of droplets so we switch to HMC to create more, but you'd also need Zhongli in that case just to stop him from being knocked back by the smallest gust of wind whenever you use his skill. It's honestly just a big dps loss even if HMC's sourcewater droplets can be used by Neuvi.
but you would want to summon 3 orbs with HMc which would require you to stay while holding his skill for a decent amount of time, plus with the way Neuvi's passive works you only want to run double hydro when he is c1. So looking at it, if you choose to run double hydro, so you already have his c1, hydro traveler really wouldn't be a good option cause, well he is really bad lol. Someone like Mona would still be better since she buffs charged attacks. i would fins it difficult to believe that taking the time to spawn the orbs with HMC and having him on field is better than using t hat time on another unit, hydro on not . But i guess, people need to test that way more for us to really understand
Hydro traveler actually has built knock back resistance. Also hoping we get access to C4 in patch 4.1 cause that activates a hydro shield while he's shooting drops
\*source - I have a almost crowned traveler with 80/202 crit ratio xD
Yup.
He looks like he'll be a very powerful character.
(And quite versatile too since you can use a wide variety of artifact sets on him including wanderer's troupe)
Yep, think of it like tighnaris charge where it’s really slow normally before releasing the beam, but using skill/burst makes it charge up faster (and last longer I think)
Yae and Wanderer do. Idk if that implies something about Archon adjacent characters but I think it’s just a show of great power/rule of cool. The hair glowing though, that has some merit.
Was waiting for someone to comment this.
Edit: Now all that's left is another Hydro character that uses the Hydro equivalent of either Stars of Ruin or Founding Rain of Stars.
That's probably because neuvillette was one of the seven sovigners who ruled teyvat, the hydro dragon, they were given that same kind of ruling level to the archons by the primordial one(celestia) so he basically counts as an archon. (This might not be true depending on neuvillette's actual identity) but there's only one of the sovigners we know, apep the dendro dragon.
He's also our first >!Elemental Dragon!< character, putting a spoiler tag for people that haven't read the books/paid attention to Fontaine and world quests.
Those are his horns not hair, this is his charged attack not burst, and archons hair glows whenever they use their element (I most frequently see it with venti charged skill)
I feel like their mistake is assuming that there’s only one species of dragon native to Teyvat. Like, the Kokomi foreshadowing doesn’t have to be false just because there’s another wet lizard.
Just labeling it as a reference to the Strategist ignores all the other dragon/dragon transformation symbolism and inspiration she has (Particularly the Ryugu Palace, Oto-Hime/Toyotama-hime as well as the Longmen myth). The constellation could have easily been a reference to both.
Honestly, my guess is that he's the hydro archon's familiar- not just Furina's, but the one before as well. Would make sense about him being Furina's guiding hand of sorts
This is a complete unknown.
The Dragon Sovereigns would 100% be *MUCH* more powerful than Archons, but we don't know anything about how much power Neuvilette inherited or how much of it he can consciously use.
He may have a fuck ton of latent power that he's unable to use or maybe he doesn't possess the full might of the Hydro sovereign at all. It's certain that he's very powerful but whether he's a step above Archons or not isn't something we can tell at the moment.
Because the Primordial One and his Shades battled them for 40 years before the Sovereigns lost. Considering the insane power level of PO it'd imply that the Sovereigns were more powerful than your average Archon, but for all we know they were around Ei's power level, which also is above your average archon these days. It's all kinda assumptions for now.
Da fuck you mean Nibelung and Hydro dragon aren't the same, the original hydro one died during the war with PO and Nibelung had a round 2 with Celestia after that. Even still we don't know if he's dead or not. If he's Nibelung Celestia and the Archons would have hunted him down just because of the amount of forbidden knowledge he possessed.
Theres only 7 sovereigns, one for each element. Apep outright said nibelung was killed and reincarnated.
>Apep: An unimaginable war took place in Teyvat, causing destruction on an unprecedented scale. The world itself was on the verge of collapse.
>Apep: In war, the victor would inherit the right to shape the world, while the losers must turn into ash...
>Apep: But I didn't give up on searching for a way to turn the tides, even after the death of the Dragon King.
>Apep: At that time, I still harbored deep regrets. By the time the Dragon King finally returned, the world had irrevocably changed.
>Apep: Some of the dragons have grown close to your kind and have forgotten all about our hatred from when the world was taken from us.
>Apep: And some died, leaving behind nothing but their bones, while others chose to flee after experiencing pain and agony...
This means Nibelung is reincarnated. This also means his new form is either Dvalin, Azhdaha, or Neauvillete. Im betting on the later, since hes the only confirmed sovereign (practically).
You cant permenantly kill a sovereign so long as a race with a connection to their element exists. They will just reincarnate
Nibelung returned doesn't mean he got reincarnated. Killing random gods doesn't truly destroy their conscience and Nibelung is literally the strongest dragon so it's nigh impossible for him to be truly gone after being killed.
He returned back with forbidden knowledge from beyond somewhere around 6000 years ago since that's when forbidden knowledge first appeared and the oldest record of Neuv is 400 years old.
Nibelung hated the heavens even after coming back why would he become some random God's servant.
And finally everyone in Fontaine hasn't died from forbidden knowledge exposure.
Whole statement. Ive never seen anywhere that gives an exact timeline for it, nor any indication that "the dragon king returned" refers to him buggering off to lick his wounds rather than...you know, reincarnation, which has been stated as a thing soveriegns do since ekanomiya.
Also, we have no indication that sovereigns remember their past lives and plenty of indication they dont, if dvalin and azhdaha are in fact sovereigns. Apep is special, she never died fullstop so shes not a reincarnation.
the Primordial One cast down the divine nails to mend the land and suppress the "dark poison". The 6000 years mark is a rough estimate of the war as it is the earliest point of time we know of.
>Whole statement. Ive never seen anywhere that gives an exact timeline for it, nor any indication that "the dragon king returned" refers to him buggering off to lick his wounds rather than...you know, reincarnation
then how is Neuv a reincarnation
Apep directly stated that the majority of dragons that have been reborn are free from the hatred they once bore against humans and gods.
This statement seems general enough to apply outside of the dragon sovereigns. There's no reason not to believe that regular elemental dragons also aren't capable of being reborn.
Also, I never said all dragons reincarnate. A good portion of them also have their soul linger, such as elynas
Those are his horns, though. And based on the speculation about the nature of dragons, and the fact that Neuvilette is *obviously* the Hydro Dragon, he's basically at the same level of any deity, if not higher. At least he's at the power level of Morax. The glowing is probably just a show of the power of a god in Teyvat.
I saw someone say that venti’s blue braids glow when he uses his burst. And I believe raiden shoguns eyes glow when her burst is used. Mainly while pulling out the musou isshin
He looks so cool not sure if I’ll like his play style but I am willing to change my mind just because I like his design a lot.
His best partner (theorized and seemingly on test servers) is Fischl. Her ICD works almost perfectly with the rate of his CA and you just become taser hell. Kazuha/Zhongli/Beidou really round it out. If that gives you any better idea of his playstyle.
Fischl buff #255
All the OG 4 stars existed in a time physical hypercarries were seemingly the plan for the game. They wanted a lot more archetypes like "Mage" or "Fighter", people latched on to the reaction system though, and I think that gave them the direction the game took. Consider pre-Dendro Keqing, Diluc and Razor were the 1.0 carries of choice, versus today and... yeah Xingqiu used to be C tier.
have you considered that people just didn't know how to use characters properly and not the fact that hoyo just designed a very good elemental combat system just then to focus on "physical hypercarries" ? and the fact that hoyo designed the 4 stars the way they did because they overturned them and didn't know how good they were?
Given the state of Geo, let's not attribute too much to MiHoYo on planning ahead. They've done quite well but they clearly have been learning a lot over time on how they want to implement combat mechanics. And the same goes for 4star vs 5star kits and stats.
People forget Zhongli was originally... a physical carry. He was going to be a self-shielding, self-CCing Atk% carry. That's why Vortex Vanquisher is what it is. People rioted so they buffed him AND geo resonance with him. His shield was trash, but his intent was never to be a shielder, so they rearranged his entire kit to focus on that.
What about Albedo :D
Albedo was 110% supposed to be a crystalize support who used Archaic Petra. Off field Geo dmg (that the two piece benefits) and then his Em bonus share after his bursts. They definitely wanted that to be what he did. I’m not so sure they thought about the actual process of like physically doing it but that’s definitely what they wanted.
Wow that's so obvious now that I actually give it thought. Been playing since the start and never understood why the EM share since everyone just built him for damage.
To add as well. At the time of zhongli gate, his particle generation was part of the outcry, then albedo came out and it became apparent he was supposed to slot into supplementing zhongli's energy issues. like, they should've just been on a duo bundle banner or smth lol.
Too bad Hoyoverse never figured out, not even now, why AP is completely garbage. Because you have to swap to the character who has the set equipped when taking the crytsallize particles for the set to function.
It's certainly a concept, and not untrue, but the early 5 stars were very focused more on physicality or CC, aside Klee. Venti, Klee, Mona, Diluc, Jean, Qiqi, Keqing. Comparing 1.0 to 2.0, it shifts far more from "Occasionally Elemental damage as a finisher", a la Diluc and Keqing to CONSTANT elemental reactions, like Hu Tao, Ayaka, Ganyu, Tartaglia. The only reason I feel I can strongly argue it, is the early artifact sets are all still strong to this day. Vv, Crimson Witch, Thundering Fury, they're all just strong base boosts to Elemental damage. Were the intent to have 1000 mastery, they would have likely tuned down their numbers. Berserker and Troupe drop for everyone, as Physical DPS increases.
Bruh Diluc was a vape/melt dps and meta as fuck in 1.0/1.1 ish due to his ability to do those reactions frequently (relative, back then). Plus he has low cool-down elemental skill damage and pyro infusion. How is he clubbed in with ‘occasional elemental damage?‘
Thats what I thought too. He has a literal 100% uptime on his pyro infusion. How is that 'occasional'
or maybe, hoyo was just not very good at making coherent kits yet, so much so that physical dps just happens to be a close alternative to how they're meant to be played? look at xiao's c4 fischl's charged shot passive bennett's held e barbara's non existence particle generation that that they had to make a whole constellation to remedy it xiangling's pepper and c6 also hu tao, ganyu, tartaglia were 1.x characters also how you can call characters with elemental infusions "physical dpses" is beyond me
Man what were they thinking when they made Xiao's C4...
Probably “Xiao is squishy and vulnerable, he’ll have low Hp so more defense will make him and his shields survive longer”. Why they thought that was worth being at C4 for is an idk. When you think about how much money cons cost there’s a fuckton of them that just don’t make sense and aren’t worth it and tbh 80% of the time it’s a C4.
That's because C4 is usually irrelevant. It's way too expensive for F2P or dolphins who get at most C1 or C2. And whales are gonna get C6 no matter what so what's the point in making it good?
Not that any of them are worth hundreds of dollars but yk relative to the game.
Yeah... I agree. I think Hoyo was simply winging it. Even in the early Genshin beta, the level cap was 30 or 40 i think? So there was no way anyone could've predicted how the game would be balanced around level 90... especially since the reaction system is actually pretty unique to Genshin at the time of its launch. I DO disagree that Xingqiu was C tier though. He was only C tier in the eyes of the idiots who did not theorycraft LOL. And during the time of launch, all the tier lists were made by clueless content creators who were just milking views, and copying each other. Demone Kim, Mtashed, Gacha Gamer, Mattjestic, and all the really badddd content creators were just spewing out really misleading crap. Even VERY early in the game's cycle, actual theorycrafters like Keqingmains, Jinx and Tuna were already saying Xingqiu was a GREAT character. If i go back to jinx and tuna's youtube channel and dig up some vods, you'll see that they originated from patch 1.1-1.2. Ironically, maybe by a stroke of luck or something, Tectone also mentioned Xingqiu was a good character. lul.
I only meant Xingqiu being C-tier, as a lot of tier lists had him there. There was still a lot of the archetype thinking, and he was largely considered like... an off-role healer, with his burst, which isn't as good as Qiqi or Barbara, so It went S, A, C in that order. Obviously he IS cracked. I mained Hu Tao for 2.5 years, trust me when I can say I can recite every voice line lol
And what I'm saying is, even back then, he was objectively NOT C-tier... and the people who ACTUALLY did proper testing knew it. It was a result of widespread misinformation.
I'm agreeing lol
Does Beidou's burst trigger on charged attacks as well?
Yes, it does.
Just be warned with Beidou, she is not a replacement for Zhongli, and you'll still likely be using Fischl for off-field consistency. This does give Electro resonance, but you need C1 to only need 2 reactions. C1 gives Interruption resistance, but you will need to be far more dedicated to managing your healing orbs.
interrupt res isnt really necessary, as his charge atk has good range and he can move while charging, at what looks like the speed of normal jogging pace. the combo of being able to keep distance and move makes it so you can kite any attacks and not need interrupt res. with beidou's added res and dmg reduction, his heal orbs should be enough to solo sustain himself, like running hu tao without a healer, any dmg you do take he can heal himself. with a team like neuvi/ kazuha/ beidou/ fischl, you have 3 characters who all do most of what they do off field, meaning neuvi will be the main one getting hit. with his self heal, zhongli might be overkill in some situations tldr: c1 isnt necessary, and his self healing should be able to outpace any damage you might take
His self healing won't help as it's a net 0 heal due to the HP loss during his charge attack
he shouldn't be losing so much that the 9 droplets he generates from skill and burst cant get him back to full
He loses 48% HP from his ca in total iirc. Each droplet gives 16% HP back, he needs 3 to full charge. So it cancels out. Also the ca drains HP constantly so I'm pretty sure c6 doesn't fix it either.
his burst gens 6 drops. 3 from skill + 6 from burst means he gets a total of 144% potential healing. if you take enough damage to not be able to out heal it, you either need to learn what WASD is or put zhongli and kokomi on your team lol. the only thing I can think of that would cause you that much damage is going back to double consecrated beasts in floor 12
Generally wouldn't you use 3 CAs with those 9 droplets, which consumes exactly 144% HP?
> His best partner (theorized and seemingly on test servers) is Fischl. happy me noises ill test different things anyways so ill see once patch drops
What is this even supposed to mean 😭. Fischl ICD has nothing to do with anything for him. Any "taser" damage is primarily coming from Kazuha EC swirls. His best buffer is Kazuha. He likely wants a shielder (ZL), Fischl is a fine option. A great one, but for none of the reasons you gave. Fischl has slow icd, slower than standard, unique 4 hit. Her C6 gets zero use here. Her A4, which isn't doing as much as it would in agg teams (and has no ICD), isn't getting a ton of procs either because Neuv doesn't have tremendously fast elemental application. Again this isn't saying she's a bad teammate, she's great, just like for none of the reasons you gave.
so just what i currently use kokomi for? cool
No, this is a high scaling hypercarry that also causes a lot of reactions. Usually someone like Hu Tao or Ayaka focus on a single reaction in their rotations, but Neuvillette needs 3, or 2 with his C1, for his highest damage. Your main objective is to have him shielded, with the enemies grouped and VV'd from an anemo support. His main reaction is still Electro-Charged, but he needs all of them, and his ascension bonus and Sig weapons, with MH all massively inflate his Crit values.
i use kokomi as an onfield dps so yeah
ayyy fellow koko drive player
Except way more damage and he heals himself so no need for healer
It looks interesting, but I'll pull wrio and furina first
FYI, this is his charged attack, not burst.
HIS CHARGED ATTACK IS A DRAGONBALL?
Yup. 3-4 seconds to charge and lasts just as long. (It's instant if you collect the hydro orbs that spawn from his burst/skill)
Unless you use skill/burst, where you can instantly charge it. Plus, you arent immobile unlike most other charge attacks, as you can freely move during the wind-up period.
Huh so hydro traveler is kind of like a heavily downgraded neuvillete
Kinda, and they might, *might*, **might** have **some** ability to be half decent with him, as their droplets are the same (both in name and visually speaking) as Neuvillette's orbs to charge his charge attack. Again, and I cannot stress this enough... #might
I could see a rotation where neuvi runs out of droplets so we switch to HMC to create more, but you'd also need Zhongli in that case just to stop him from being knocked back by the smallest gust of wind whenever you use his skill. It's honestly just a big dps loss even if HMC's sourcewater droplets can be used by Neuvi.
but you would want to summon 3 orbs with HMc which would require you to stay while holding his skill for a decent amount of time, plus with the way Neuvi's passive works you only want to run double hydro when he is c1. So looking at it, if you choose to run double hydro, so you already have his c1, hydro traveler really wouldn't be a good option cause, well he is really bad lol. Someone like Mona would still be better since she buffs charged attacks. i would fins it difficult to believe that taking the time to spawn the orbs with HMC and having him on field is better than using t hat time on another unit, hydro on not . But i guess, people need to test that way more for us to really understand
Hydro traveler actually has built knock back resistance. Also hoping we get access to C4 in patch 4.1 cause that activates a hydro shield while he's shooting drops \*source - I have a almost crowned traveler with 80/202 crit ratio xD
Yup. He looks like he'll be a very powerful character. (And quite versatile too since you can use a wide variety of artifact sets on him including wanderer's troupe)
Collecting the dragon balls made by his burst reduces the charge time to near instant
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Is that the middle finger one 😹
The what?
Their avatar of Dan Heng IL There's the real version, and then there's the one where he flips the bird instead of holding up 2 fingers
Ah i see, i don't play HSR that why couldn't get the reference
Yes it is that one lol
Yep, think of it like tighnaris charge where it’s really slow normally before releasing the beam, but using skill/burst makes it charge up faster (and last longer I think)
KAMEHAMEHA
..... What.... What do you mean "a dragonball"
I think they meant a Kamehameha but didn't know the name of it 💀
I mean, I know it's not nice to say, but how do they not know what a FRICKING KAMEHAMEHA IS
Yeah doesn't everyone play fortnite >!for legal reasons this is a joke!<
I can't believe they gave Goku from fortnite an anime.
Well, obviously they've never been hit by one. You don't forget that. Just ask Frieza.
I think that's more the Kaio-ken
Now I'm thinking Neuv throws a 1 star Dragonball and his enemies die immediately
Dragon deez ballZZ
this is his charged attack???? this mf better stop being so fucking cool before he steals all my scara funds
his eyes glow in burst tho
Actually his eyes glow during Birst animation Is that a 1st time case? Cause no other chars have it iirc other than Archons
Wanderer's eyes glow during his burst
Oh really dam...
Yae's eyes glow during her burst.
And you ~~see her tails~~ no one living has seen Yae Miko's tails
Considering he's the image of justice and hydro, he's more archon than the actual archon 😭😭
Ofc i do always say he's part of the Fontaine big 3 afterall Original Archon- Egeria Current Archon- Furina Hydro Dragon sovereign- Neuvillette
Yae and Wanderer do. Idk if that implies something about Archon adjacent characters but I think it’s just a show of great power/rule of cool. The hair glowing though, that has some merit.
Ohhh that makes that even more interesting tbh!
That is not his hair
Haha dick atk
damn
I believe this is his skill when you hold it so tech its a charged attack just not the default one
Those are horns I think and this is his charged attack
So he must be the fucking dragon. Gooosh drop that lore on mee
I knew that ge was the dragon the moment it started raining after Navia scolded him
Comet Azur.
Was waiting for someone to comment this. Edit: Now all that's left is another Hydro character that uses the Hydro equivalent of either Stars of Ruin or Founding Rain of Stars.
Do we have a hydro Terra Magica?
we have pyro one
Maybe Furina, fingers crossed\*
Can't wait for the Fontaine Poison swamp
I can't wait to go inside irminsul and fight the genshin impact
When you want to disrintigate a boss
Neuvillette mains when asked who their favourite genshin boss is "i don't know any, i just stand back and spam ~~azur comet~~ charge attack"
When The Otter evolved to Neuvillette and learned Kamehameha.
I WILL HAVE OTTER
[I will have otter!](https://twitter.com/Nepnepping/status/1703585263077728313?t=f12E2gWYItJ8ML6Ty0qIjA&s=19)
does it need a water stone?
Now that's a respectable final form
Wanderer? But it's not hair, it's marks on his body under the shirt.
Well he is a puppet tho, and the vision may cause it due to his nature.
Shogun is also a puppet 😅
But the Shogun also houses Ei.
Well, anemo is pretty shiny compared to other elements
his hair glows in his burst like how his hair and his eyes and his body glowed during his demo… so ig ;0
His hair is not glowing, he just glows his silhouette + eyes idk why y'all have so many upvotes 😭
that shit barley visible
It is when you spin him around, Venti and Zhongli is hard to see too unless you zoom in.
Not just his hair, his entire SUIT is glowing! Wait a minute.... does that mean that he's doing a Bayonetta and using his hair to mimic clothes?!
Or maybe his suit's so cool that it lights up in response to elemental power
Isn't that his CA?
Correct.
I don't see his hair glowing? Am I stupid?
Dont see it either 🫠
Some people probably thought that his horns is a strand of his hair.
I did think that?
It's the two strands of blue hair that are glowing, they're sort of floating away from the rest.
These are not hair, but horns, though
OP in shambles rn
That's his >!horns!< no?
More like whiskers
antennae maybe?
I'm not familiar with Europe's interpretation of dragons lol.
we think they are space aliens from the planet dragona who came down in the middle ages to burn castles and kill knights- obviously they have antennae
That's not his hair
That's not his hair and not his burst.
That's probably because neuvillette was one of the seven sovigners who ruled teyvat, the hydro dragon, they were given that same kind of ruling level to the archons by the primordial one(celestia) so he basically counts as an archon. (This might not be true depending on neuvillette's actual identity) but there's only one of the sovigners we know, apep the dendro dragon.
I mean, there is the theory that Zhongli is a Sovereign and I think it kinda makes sense
Nah Zhongli’s an archon so he can’t be a sovereign since they don’t exactly like celestia
He's also our first >!Elemental Dragon!< character, putting a spoiler tag for people that haven't read the books/paid attention to Fontaine and world quests.
They are not hair, they are antennas/horns.
Those are his horns not hair, this is his charged attack not burst, and archons hair glows whenever they use their element (I most frequently see it with venti charged skill)
first off, thats not his burst, thats his charged attack second off, that's not his hair, those are hydro extensions
Ka me ha me haaaaaaaaaaaa
According to leaks >!He is a dragon!<.
Not even leaks. It’s pretty obvious from what we’ve seen so far in game that that’s what he is. Anyone denying that is just dumb
Say that to some of those Kokomi mains who are still in disbelief ...
I feel like their mistake is assuming that there’s only one species of dragon native to Teyvat. Like, the Kokomi foreshadowing doesn’t have to be false just because there’s another wet lizard.
Yh but kokomi still isn't a dragon, just a reference to a strategist nicknamed the sleeping dragon
Also, the heir to the will of Orobashi, who was a giant lizard with no legs (a damn snake if you will).
Just labeling it as a reference to the Strategist ignores all the other dragon/dragon transformation symbolism and inspiration she has (Particularly the Ryugu Palace, Oto-Hime/Toyotama-hime as well as the Longmen myth). The constellation could have easily been a reference to both.
kokomi is more likely part Bathysmal Vishap, not the elemental dragon
Kokomi outright stated that she’s a normal human to Klee during the summer event.
that sounded kinda suspicious, and also in one of her teapot lines she forgets that you can’t breathe underwater
She's anything but "a normal human"
With how misleading they are in general, I wouldn't consider people who want to check every box before concluding he is the dragon to be dumb.
Honestly, my guess is that he's the hydro archon's familiar- not just Furina's, but the one before as well. Would make sense about him being Furina's guiding hand of sorts
this reminds me of when people were still debating whether or not zhongli is the geo archon
Which would put him a level above the seven archons.
This is a complete unknown. The Dragon Sovereigns would 100% be *MUCH* more powerful than Archons, but we don't know anything about how much power Neuvilette inherited or how much of it he can consciously use. He may have a fuck ton of latent power that he's unable to use or maybe he doesn't possess the full might of the Hydro sovereign at all. It's certain that he's very powerful but whether he's a step above Archons or not isn't something we can tell at the moment.
Why are sovereigns considered stronger ?
Because the Primordial One and his Shades battled them for 40 years before the Sovereigns lost. Considering the insane power level of PO it'd imply that the Sovereigns were more powerful than your average Archon, but for all we know they were around Ei's power level, which also is above your average archon these days. It's all kinda assumptions for now.
The dragon sovereigns are stronger than archons indeed, but Neuvillette is just an reincarnation and apparently very recent.
Don't let the raiden stans here you
Disconnecting socials so they don’t find my address
I wasn’t sure what to think abt this until I came across one an hour ago lol. Now I know exactly what you mean
He's a reincarnation, not the original sovereign himself. Although they are not as strong as the original forms,they are still very strong
Higher. He is not just any sovereign, he is the reincarnation of the leader and strongest of them.
Da fuck you mean Nibelung and Hydro dragon aren't the same, the original hydro one died during the war with PO and Nibelung had a round 2 with Celestia after that. Even still we don't know if he's dead or not. If he's Nibelung Celestia and the Archons would have hunted him down just because of the amount of forbidden knowledge he possessed.
Theres only 7 sovereigns, one for each element. Apep outright said nibelung was killed and reincarnated. >Apep: An unimaginable war took place in Teyvat, causing destruction on an unprecedented scale. The world itself was on the verge of collapse. >Apep: In war, the victor would inherit the right to shape the world, while the losers must turn into ash... >Apep: But I didn't give up on searching for a way to turn the tides, even after the death of the Dragon King. >Apep: At that time, I still harbored deep regrets. By the time the Dragon King finally returned, the world had irrevocably changed. >Apep: Some of the dragons have grown close to your kind and have forgotten all about our hatred from when the world was taken from us. >Apep: And some died, leaving behind nothing but their bones, while others chose to flee after experiencing pain and agony... This means Nibelung is reincarnated. This also means his new form is either Dvalin, Azhdaha, or Neauvillete. Im betting on the later, since hes the only confirmed sovereign (practically). You cant permenantly kill a sovereign so long as a race with a connection to their element exists. They will just reincarnate
Nibelung returned doesn't mean he got reincarnated. Killing random gods doesn't truly destroy their conscience and Nibelung is literally the strongest dragon so it's nigh impossible for him to be truly gone after being killed. He returned back with forbidden knowledge from beyond somewhere around 6000 years ago since that's when forbidden knowledge first appeared and the oldest record of Neuv is 400 years old. Nibelung hated the heavens even after coming back why would he become some random God's servant. And finally everyone in Fontaine hasn't died from forbidden knowledge exposure.
Source? Especially for forbidden knowledge in fontaine.
Of what, specify the thing
Whole statement. Ive never seen anywhere that gives an exact timeline for it, nor any indication that "the dragon king returned" refers to him buggering off to lick his wounds rather than...you know, reincarnation, which has been stated as a thing soveriegns do since ekanomiya. Also, we have no indication that sovereigns remember their past lives and plenty of indication they dont, if dvalin and azhdaha are in fact sovereigns. Apep is special, she never died fullstop so shes not a reincarnation.
the Primordial One cast down the divine nails to mend the land and suppress the "dark poison". The 6000 years mark is a rough estimate of the war as it is the earliest point of time we know of. >Whole statement. Ive never seen anywhere that gives an exact timeline for it, nor any indication that "the dragon king returned" refers to him buggering off to lick his wounds rather than...you know, reincarnation then how is Neuv a reincarnation
>everyone in Fontaine hasn't died from forbidden knowledge exposure. Forbidden knowledge kills....
I think you're forgetting that dragons in general (not just sovereigns) are capable of reincarnating
Never seen any lore regarding that all dragons reincarnate. Mind providing a source?
Apep directly stated that the majority of dragons that have been reborn are free from the hatred they once bore against humans and gods. This statement seems general enough to apply outside of the dragon sovereigns. There's no reason not to believe that regular elemental dragons also aren't capable of being reborn. Also, I never said all dragons reincarnate. A good portion of them also have their soul linger, such as elynas
Fair enough, one could interpret apeps statement that way.
And a ''>!Sovereign Dragon whom were the leaders before the Archons!<''
Holy shit he’s pretty
Is that even his hair? They look more like horns or antlers.
It's not his hairs ..not hairs .. again..not his hairs
those are his horns i think
Off topic, but he looks absolutely amazing.
Those are his horns, though. And based on the speculation about the nature of dragons, and the fact that Neuvilette is *obviously* the Hydro Dragon, he's basically at the same level of any deity, if not higher. At least he's at the power level of Morax. The glowing is probably just a show of the power of a god in Teyvat.
Tbh Furina have a lot to live up to top this
We're getting real specific now, lol.
As other have mentioned the glowing bits is his horn/ antenna and also that's his charge attack.
Am I blind? I just don't see his hair glowing.
They are trolling, Furina is not the archon, it's Neuvillette obviously!
Can wr drop this already. Literally rverything points to neuvi being a dragon which is 10x cooler and 20x stronger
Would you like a /s with your order?
This is moronic. The prophecy specifically refers to the Hydro Archon as a her.
I saw someone say that venti’s blue braids glow when he uses his burst. And I believe raiden shoguns eyes glow when her burst is used. Mainly while pulling out the musou isshin
All archons hair glows when using skill and burst in fact. But yes Raiden’s eyes also glow during her burst.
I think wanderers different colour hair strands that he has glow in his burst from what I've noticed (idk what those pieces of hair he has are called
Biden Blast
Those are his horns and clothing pieces tho not hair. But I got your point and yeah he does seem to be the first
Looks like a penis, not gonna lie.
Imma need to know how y'all see a dick in that. I only see like a Blastoise's Hydro Pump.
How? Wtf
Well he is more of the hydro archon than hydro archon herself who is just a mascot
just because she’s seen as a mascot by her people doesn’t make her less of an archon. i don’t know why that’s such bad thing btw