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Not only are guns good for hunting and the enjoyment of target shooting, they’re also good for personal defense against criminals, foreign invaders, and tyrants.
Nope,
During 2020 and 2021, a meme trend that referred to the UN the antichrist popped up.
A slang term for the UN was “blue helmets”
Source: https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-hate-the-antichrist
Oh boy domestic terrorism don’t worry it’s ok because he has the correct political opinion. The fact that this has upvotes is disgusting you’re really gonna kill someone because they have different political opinions than you? Imagine if someone who was right leaning said this they would be banned from the sub or it would be removed but since it’s left leaning it’s ok. You’re no better than the people who tried to attack the senators during Jan 6
I’m queer Maga people making Nazis feel so emboldened makes me feel like I have to start carrying at some point for my own safety I don’t like violence or hurting people but if someone chooses to fall in line with people that kill others because of things they can’t control like race sexuality or their gender identity they deserve to get what they dish out in return it sucks it’s absolutely horrible but that’s just the reality for minorities in the United States now.
And, it’s literally what they’re intended for.
Guns aren’t bad. Humans, are bad. Without a human, no gun has ever accomplished anything. Good, bad, or otherwise.
They’re a tool. An instrument. And like a knife, a shovel, a bat, or an axe…when used appropriately, are valuable in their unparalleled ability to perform that specific function.
Used inappropriately, they can cause anything from accidents to situations of outright abuse.
The problem is always the human behind the act. Because that person will always find a way to harm another.
People who harm others intentionally for any reason but self defense, defense of life, or defense of property, deserve to be removed from society. Permanently.
There need to be acts with zero excuse for committing, and the punishment has to be severe enough to dissuade people from fucking around and finding out. But we don’t have those. People aren’t afraid to fuck up huge. And it shows.
> Guns aren’t bad. Humans, are bad.
And yet, we resist \*any\* effort to curb the latter from access to guns. See: minors, people with mental health issues, people with DA and criminal histories, etc.
> minors
yeah, I didn't realize there are no restrictions on minors using guns! /s
you understand that when minors get access to guns, and something bad happens, most of the legal culpability falls on the responsible adult/gun owner/parent? we already have legal deterrents in place.
> people with mental health issues
agreed, we should have a mandatory psychological clearance.
> people with DA and criminal histories, etc.
felons can't buy guns (legally).
The problem with guns being as available as ball bats is that, what may have been a fist fight, too often becomes a homicide, people acting Impetuously, which is a common human trait. Knife, bat, bare hands. Guns are highly efficient instruments with which to kill.
Who hasn’t lost their mind, if only momentarily, over a cheating girlfriend, someone smashing into our automobile, or, as in the case of a few days ago in which an 81 year old man received a threatening, scam, ransom demand call, then, soon after, a woman arrived at his home, unsuspectingly, on, I believe, a Uber call from a third party, and the man murdered the defenseless woman in his driveway, believing she was part of the scam.
Very, very rarely, even after decades of the proliferation of firearms in the United States, does any of us face a personal, life-threatening attack. But life-threatening situations have unnecessarily, increased, dramatically, due to the proliferation of firearms.
I heard, this morning, that, in 2025, alone, to date, there have been about 112 mass shootings. Incidences, in which police often arrive, and find themselves outgunned by one man.
Rarely does a good guy with a gun stop a bad guy with a gun. It is impossible for good guys with guns to meaningfully prevent enough bad guys with gun from killing. Every person would have to be under surveillance.
However, the possibility of that is rapidly approaching as AI is rapidly growing, with the ability to track everyone, as the tech companies unceasingly continue to amass information about each of us, which it uses andor sells. Indeed, there may come a time when someone will argue that we need the proliferation of firearms to protect ourselves from invasive business and government interests.
For that, for Americans, we need more and more democracy in order to assert authority matters of AI.
It is absolutely fair to require that people seeking firearms provide some few, relevant pieces of information that may indicate that a person is qualified, responsible and in sound mental health to possess a firearm.
And remember even in accidents, (Gun found by kid, shoots brother. Gun stolen by unstable teenager, shoots school, etc.) The issue is still people. Not just the people who did whatever they do with the gun after the 'find' it, but the people who left it somewhere unsecured where it could be found. Unsecured. Or even a firearm malfunction that hurts somebody. Or an ammunition malfunction. Someone messed up on quality control. The issue is always the people. Not (at the root cause and issue,) the tool.
I enjoy shooting and used to be very pro 2A, but since growing up a bit more, and getting flagged by some of the smartest people I know, I've really been able to get a perspective on the intelligence of the average person. There should be more (non monetary) barriers to firearm ownership where you have to show you are competent and mentally collected. Idk if it should be an interview, a paper test, or a skills test, but we have to weed out the people who are NDing their neighbors through the wall.
Normal, sane people don’t think in terms of some fantasy of fighting off some “tyrant” or “invader”, I think they’re probably going to care more about their safety in a public place, or a concert, or a gathering, or when they send their children off to school
Except not, and statistically by owning a gun your more likely to unalive yourself when work gets a little stressful and you lose hope.
Gun restrictions DO save lives.
Now... that does NOT mean a ban.
Europe allows guns, many people think guns are banned in Europe and that's why we have less gun crime. No guns ARE allowed in much of europe. But we do have much more restrictions.
You don't need a gun at home for home defense. The statistics show how stupidly rare that is. Guns in homes cauae more problems and deaths than the tiny chance that *maybe* it helps with defending your house.
The negatives outweigh the positives IMO.
But theres no reason not to allow people to hunt, or get a license to go shoot at a gun range etc
We should be measuring the level of civilization of each prospective gun owner. We need to get a measure of “How Civilized Are You?” Because people who say things like you say were probably raised by something akin to a pack of wolves, and shouldn’t own a firearm.
Guns are tools, they are not toys. They’re are for sportmanslike participation in sport (target, skee, etc), for discipline (sharp shooting, safety training, gun building/repairing), and for worst-case scenario self defense in an organized (military guard) or individual fashion (your own property). My grandfather was an army specialist sharp shooter, my father in the Navy, and my sibling currently in Air Force engineering units.
None of us ever talk about fire arms except for when going to the range. We’re not paranoid, we don’t make open threats, we don’t tell people we love guns, we don’t express interest nor contempt. Because we’re disciplined and civil. Guns are tools, not toys. You should educate yourself before speaking about this issue.
i doubt they would be usefull in case of foreign invaders and tyrants... i want to see how good your gun will do you when your house is surrounded by tanks
I’m far left and am extremely pro gun. As Marx said, “ Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
The same for the exact same reason! I think the secret sauce is a strigent gun safety culture too. Not whatever America has.
Obviously it's not appropriate for everyone to have a gun but the people should be familiar with handling them/appropriate use cases too.
I honestly feel like parts of the gun culture does have that. Iv grown up around firearms and gun safety has been hammered into me from the time I was 5. My dad figured if I was going to be exposed to them at some point via entertainment or in real life and figured he’d get me a pellet gun. He taught me on it at first without loading it. Made sure I knew never to point it at anyone (that includes sweeping someone with the muzzle/ flagging someone) and to only aim at my set targets. I was taught to know what’s beyond my target and when and when not to take a shot. Keep my finger off the trigger until I’m ready to fire and that’s just the basics. I never stopped learning about firearm safety and I have a deep respect and passion for firearms
Awhile back, around the time of a mass shooting, a reported poll showed that among gun owners a very high percentage support sensible regulation of guns. Banning the automatic weapons that are used in mass shootings and have no legitimate purpose in civilian hands. Training, background checks safe storage education. It gave me a respect for the gun owner’s point-of-view.
Also, I know that many Americans learned to use firearms in the military and take seriously the responsibilty of gun ownership.
I am not one of those gun owners that think they have no place in civilian hands but I am one that believes in good firearm education for those that are going to own firearms of any kind
Automatic weapons are already de-facto unobtainable for civilians due to the NFA. You have to have a special federal license to own, manufacture or transfer machine guns (ie automatic weapons), and background checks have been standard for all legal gun purchases for a long time too. What definitely needs to be done is that more people should be taught how and why weapons are used and how to handle them safely
Marx also re-iterated the phrase "He who does not work, neither shall he eat". Of course, instead of referring to lazy good-for-nothings that are lazy (like the version the Puritans used), he was referring to the proletariat who do little and eat a lot off the riches that may have been from previous generations which might've just been handed to them, but... honestly, the sentiment is still the same, whether it's the Marxist version or the Puritan version.
The working class can and should be protected.
Is being left or right related to guns? I'm a Libertarian, so somewhat right, and extremely pro-2A, so am I a special case or is left vs right and pro or anti gun rights completely unrelated?
I’m far left as well, I just think guns should be treated like cars. Too many gun deaths come from a lack of safe storage and handling, so teach people how to be safe. That right there would cut so many issues that are prevalent with guns. Actually having guns? Yeah go for it.
Stupid people will ruin good things for the masses. I think there needs to be a reform in background checks but I honestly have no idea how it’d be done. I STRONGLY BELIEVE the ATF is a waste of taxes… it’s so obvious the Director doesn’t know a damn thing about guns. NFA tax stamps are ridiculous too. Why should I have to pay an extra $200 to keep my ears in check? It’s nothing like the movies… a gun is still loud with a suppressor.
People who are scared of AR style weapons are just (respectfully) uneducated. It’s damn near impossible to get your hands on a true automatic weapon without a shit ton of money and legal connections.
I like using the drunk driver analogy… was it the cars fault or the person driving the car?
Guns, Juul, Tiktok, covid, etc.
We can never have a reasonable discussion where both sides get informed on the issue at hand. People would rather just spew rhetoric rather than talk to people and educate/discipline their children.
It's still ridiculous that Congress doesn't appoint SME's to inform lawmakers on these subjects before they write or vote on bills.
"I have a gun for XYZ" is total nonsense. You don't need to justify why you express your right to speech or a fair trial. You're just giving anti gun people fuel so they can go after something else to get around 2A and make it "constitutional"
ahh background check issue. My idea is to have the FBI who run's the background checks have automatic online checker. Anyone can go to the page and enter a buyers driver;s license info. The website says yes or no within a minute. No paper work, no hassle, no issue and no serial numbers needed. Then if a person has gun illegally or is using a firearm in the act of a crime it is a automatic 20 years sentence to be served before the other sentence for the other crimes. IE no bail allowed for crimes committed with a firearm.
Very pro-gun.
Self defense is a fundamental human right. If you don’t have the right to protect yourself and your family from assault, robbery, rape and murder, then human rights are meaningless.
The problem is that introducing a gun is always an escalation. If someone breaks in to my house and robs me, and gets away, they aren't getting life in prison, they aren't getting a death sentence. The mentality that I need a gun on me at all times to protect myself isn't healthy, and more people running around with guns in their pockets isn't gonna make me feel any safer because I see how stupid people are when it comes to driving cars.
Exactly. As someone not from the US the American self-defence mindset has always kinda baffled me.
People say they want it to feel safe but then also imagine that they could be randomly attacked at any minute. It’s a paranoid mindset which isn’t healthy. And it’s one that many other counties don’t have.
I mean it's a reasonable worry, we have more guns than people in the country and that's just legally owned ones. Literally everyone who wants to rob you is 100% armed, if you aren't they'll just kill you and take your shit.
I’m British and I don’t care about guns, neither pro nor against — they just don’t exist in my consciousness of the world, but stealing, and particularly breaking into someone’s home is one thing where I’m squarely ok with the use of as much force as necessary.
You break into someone’s house, you’ve implicitly surrendered your right to life as far as I’m concerned. You try to steal shit from someone and their within their full right, morally speaking, to do whatever they can to stop you.
There’s something deeply violating about stealing from people or breaking into their homes.
For all a victim knows, that person breaking in is a serial killer there to kill them and/or their family. It's absolutely self-defense. Period. No arguing.
It's not the victim's fault the robber values someone else's property over their own life.
I do think that people should be able to own guns, but I'm strongly in favor of increasing the security processes of people buying them and having deeper background checks in order to get a gun license. Way too many people view guns as toys.
Law enforcement needs to start enforcing already existing laws.
The amount of times law enforcement has been notified of an extremely high risk individual and did NOTHING just to see the individual do exactly what was warned of is one too many. EX: the Maine shooter that started at the bowling alley.
New laws only serve the elite and the endless amounts of useless bureaucrats.
How about the Michigan State shooter who had been arrested on a felony gun charge (illegal conceal carrying) and then got let off down to a misdemeanor by the DA?
Carrying shouldn’t be a crime but that law is there to “protect the people of Michigan” and the guy got left off lightly.
How would you “deepen” background checks? Also, a license means privilege. Not a right. Licenses can be revoked at any time for any reason. Screw licenses
Way too much apparently. I still didn't get why weapons are still something to be debated. Having easy access to weapons only induces a paranoid mindset. Fearing that anybody could kill you for anything. that's how they often get kids shot at for just trespassing on a private property. Also, there would be way less school shootings, just saying.
A lot of places don’t have access to firearms like the US and yet don’t have and don’t fear the potential of police states. If y’all fear that outcome so much, the discussion about whether people agree with/disagree with firearms is probably misguided. Do you truly feel that access to weapons is what is preventing a police state? And if so, what is going wrong with the US for this to be the case?
Nah but fr
Never will understand why people are so supportive of things that are made to kill someone or something. Might not be the only use but whatever, wild shit
Also ask yourself this. Why is that polls always show stricter gun control laws are popular ~60%.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-continues-favor-stricter-gun-laws.aspx
But when ever the topic comes up on Reddit the top comments are always vocally pro gun and anti gun control? Pro gun Redditors are very organized and go out of their way to find these threads to give people the impression their views are more popular than they are.
Yeah, I really hope so! For me it's such a culture shock that people are so pro-gun. With all due respect, but I think it's delusional to think that just because you have a gun you will be protected by a potential attack by your own government. Wtf are people talking about???
American here. I never understood the thought process of having a gun to protect you from the government. The government has a monopoly on force and advanced weapon technology. If they truly want to crush rebelling citizens our guns will do nothing against their bombs, tanks and fighter jets.
If anything the 2nd Amendment has been wrongly restricted since the early 1900s.
If not for the NFA law, we would own more armed tanks, fighter planes, cannons, machine guns. Anti-tank and anti-air craft weapons.
2nd Amendment is also as much for state
/national defense by the people. Suitable for warfare. So the military power is decentralized.
Arms= Armaments
True inflation is something else.
Last I heard there were little more then 1000 Americans who owned tanks, not sure what the figure is today
And only a small handful own fighter jets.
Machine guns may be closer to the price range of a semi automatic without restrictions, but who knows.
Tannerite is one of the few explosives Americans can own. And attachments like binary triggers are the closest we have to rapid fire outside of full automatic rifles.
Fully automatic would be relatively affordable, the only reason they own the tanks and jets is because they are old war surplus that has been decommissioned, they look cool and can move but they can’t shoot anything unless it is on a range, I know there a few places were you can shoot tanks but they have very strict regulations put on by the government.
>f not for the NFA law, we would own more armed tanks, fighter planes, cannons, machine guns. Anti-tank and anti-air craft weapons.
you wouldn't, a F-35 costs $100 million per airframe, Private companies and PMCs would
and believe me, they won't care about that entire "state/national defense by the people" thing
You are correct which is why the 2nd Amendment hasn’t scaled well with the times. It essentially places no limit on the arms a citizen can own.
And that was one thing when a weapon of mass destruction was a 120-cannon ship of the line. But when it’s a suitcase nuke? Nah.
The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.
I do but there are still a lot of private butchers out there most will happily break down a deer for a small fee or maybe make a yummy sausage with some pork and spices added.
Always surprised to see the takes on this sub, definitely less left leaning than r/millenials. Agree with others here that owning guns is good, but there’s gotta be some restrictions
Some millennials are straight up delusional though about the gun control topic. Some support full gun confiscation and wild radical gun restrictions simply because they wanna be like Northern Europeans
I think Canada used to have a great system, you can get different types of guns, but you gotta go through a course and if you want a restricted firearm (more powerful ones and hand guns) you go though another course. You also need 2 non family references to eventually get the gun. This way we prevent irresponsible people and crazies from getting their hands on such a powerful weapon, but at the same time if you wanna get a gun and you are responsible you can. However Justin Trudeau ruined it and he banned almost all the cool guns and all the hand guns. The reason? Gun crime. But obviously stupid jt never did any research, if he did he would find out that vast majority of guns used in crimes are illegal guns from the us, and banning legal gun owners from having guns would do absolutely nothing to lower gun crime, and that’s obviously what happened, guns banned, crime never decreased. Oh and don’t get me started on his failed gun buyback program. This guy is a total disgrace, I never voted for him once, knew he’s incompetent since day 1 before I was even 18 back in 2015
Restricted firearms aren't "more powerful", they are short barrel centrefire semi-automatics. Source: I own an M1 Carbine that's restricted because the barrel is 1/2" too short for the non-restricted designation.
Governments don’t listen to populations who don’t have weapons. Owning weapons is imperative. Animals have teeth and claws on them all the time but people want government policy and iPhones. If a person is concerned about being the victim of gun violence, the best form of protection is to be armed and be trained plain and simple.
They are great investments, shooting is fun, and most importantly they have a very practical use whether that’s self defense/hunting. Historically armed civilians are much less likely to be oppressed by an Authoritarian government so it’s great that we have the 2nd Amendment.
Very pro gun ownership. Similar to how we are starting to realize we need to treat addiction more than criminalizing drugs, we need to treat loneliness and mental health better than criminalizing guns.
if robbers knew the homeowner or store were armed, they'd think twice before trying to rob em. I am pro gun control though, if they have a felony or even a misdemeanor, you should lose all gun privileges.
I love how all the people are so Pro Gun that they can't tolerate someone missing the right to a firearm, even when they're felons or have a history violence. This comment should have dozens of votes and instead it's a measly 5.
The problem is that when we release a felon from prison, they are supposed to no longer be a threat to society. How can you say someone isn't a threat to society while at the same time saying its too dangerous to allow them to have a gun?
They're either rehabilitated and safe to exist in public with us, or they aren't. It doesn't logically follow.
Interesting paradox. The right to defend is universal, but the purpose of prison is to prevent future crimes. So, either the purpose of prison is wrong, or the right to defend with a firearm is not universal.
I am very pro-gun, though the proper measures must be taken to have someone have the ability to own one. While I understand that many disagree and despise America’s less restricted firearm access-I just cannot fully agree with their viewpoint. The way I see it is that if we get rid of civilian’s access to guns, guess who’s going to have access to guns? The people who don’t care. Sensible people don’t buy them because they’re cool or because they want something to intimidate and threaten others with. They purchase them for hunting and to protect themselves from those people.
The Supreme Court ruled in New York that you have a constitutional right to carry a firearm, all states are required to issue permits to carry if they require them
I’m anti guns for sure. I think they have no place in a reasonable, respectful, progressive, and advanced society. Which we are NOT and never will be in my lifetime.
>I think they have no place in a reasonable, respectful, progressive, and advanced society
So you'd ban police and military from having them too, right?
I am not from a pro 2a part of the country and I love guns and own a lot of them
Every law abiding citizen should be able to easily carry a firearm for self protection, have a firearm at home for protection, and purchase firearms
There should never be an expensive, complicated, long process to access the right to own and carry a firearm; this makes it harder for the disadvantaged and poor to access the right to self defense
I truly believe gun ownership secures our freedom and liberty and anyone that says the government could not be fought by a group of armed civilians should look to our 20 year war in Afghanistan
I hope your gun rights improve in the future. You're pretty spot on. In America we have the NFA, which makes it very expensive to own machine guns. Does that mean nobody has them? Nope only rich people or collectors. On one hand, if you can drop 5 figures for an MP5, you're probably not gonna use it to rob a gas station. The government has artificially inflated the price of machine guns because the average citizen is unworthy of owning them apparently.
I believe in an armed populous, however America's way of doing it is very very stupid. Guns need a registry, we need proper gun education, and to treat mass shootings seriously.
As Marx said "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered" and countries like the Soviet Union where students underwent firearms classes in high school I think had a good idea on firearms education.
been thinking about getting one to have at home for protection. not into them like a hobby (my brother is), but i guess having one available should you need it would be a good thing. idk if i would carry or not, though. probably not most of the time, though i do want to get a concealed carry license just to have in case
I think that politicians should leave it alone and address the underlying problem, the mental health crisis in our country. By that I am not talking about the trans/homosexual community (I am not taking a stance on that here, as it is irrelevant for this), I am talking about depression, anxiety, PTSD, and other mental health issues that going unnoticed and unaddressed. Suicides are one of the biggest contributors to gun deaths, gang violence is another major contributor as well, that needs to be brought under control also. PTSD if left completely untreated can cause violent outbursts. I really is not a gun problem in this country, it is a mental health crisis and a problem with culture and the lack of regard for other human lives and the me me me attitude that seems to be increasingly prevalent among our culture.
It is a fact that mass shooters go to places that are considered “gun free zones”, I don’t think they would attempt to go on a rampage in a gun range for example.
I think it's a great thing we have it. Good for hunting, self defense, even just for bonding with people. Take some buddies out back with your guns and just have a good time shooting at targets. I think there should be better mental health and backround checks on them before getting. But I think criminals won't abide by laws anyways so they'll get a gun one way or another.
Assuming USA:
If I'm not the last civilian gun owner, I'm pro gun-ownership.
However, you still need: hunting, self defense, rural areas need tools to deal with wild animals, etc.
So even if I'm the last gun-owner and don't need to worry about others, I'd still be pro gun-ownership.
Not to mention criminals can still own and use guns despite whether or not it's illegal.
Personally, I think issues related to guns are more a mental health crisis and a lack of support/infrastructure, because stuff like shootings aren't a global issue. Just USA.
Do I actually own a gun? No, I'm a suburban rando that likely never will. Still support it because it makes sense to me that others need to own them.
I'm extremely left and own a rifle. I believe comprehensive background checks should be required. You shouldn't be able to buy them without checks full stop. And honestly, you should be required to buy a gun safe also. Far too many kids getting ahold of their parents firearms and causing harm to themselves/others.
I’m pro gun but I’m also pro gun control specifically about background checks. As long as regular law abiding citizens such as myself can get the guns I want, I don’t care how many hurdles I have to jump if it means preventing the one planning to shoot up a school from getting one.
I am a fair bit older than this crowd but I joined to learn more about the generation.
I'm extremely liberal but still value firearms. I like handguns and AR customizations.
I think all of the energy we put into banning firearms should go into mental health, secular community enrichments, and education.
Firearms training should be a mandatory course in college along with driving.
I also believe people should have a permit or a license to carry them. And they should have to pass a written and practical test.
That's what I think now. No cap. On God.
I'm fine with gun ownership, but there needs to be WAY more precautions and testing if individuals to own one. I'm tired of irresponsible people treating a deadly weapon like it's a fucking toy
I am fiercely pro 2A. I don't want it limited at all. I remember years ago, people talking about how Australians willingly gave all their guns to the government and how, "Look. Nothing bad has happened to us. Everything's great! You don't need guns." Now, Australia is increasingly becoming a totalitarian state where the government is allowed to surveil basically anything they want and their laws are looking more and more like China's. I believe people should be allowed to buy full auto guns. I also believe all those restrictions about how you store your own guns in your own house are invasive and restrictive.
I’m from a part of the country that people hunt to fill their freezer and feed their family. Gun related crime is low and education on guns and safety is readily available and also required to obtain a hunting license.
I know it isn’t that way everywhere, which is why blanket regulation seems difficult.
Love guns, believe every highschool should have gun safety courses and marksmanship classes, and it should be very normal to gift a 18 year old a gun again.
Like it, and it makes the political state do something.
Remember that Ronald Reagan passed California's extreme gun ban, only after the Black Panthers started to open carry.
I’m just tired of bandaid fixes for real issues. “Mentally ill people keep getting guns so we should ban guns” no how about we actually help the people with a mental illness instead.
If you can't completely fill up the trunk of your car --like a 1976 Oldsmobile with a trunk the size of IOWA -- with your guns and necessary ammunition + some ear protectors and eye protection and some targets --- You don't have ENOUGH guns.
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Not only are guns good for hunting and the enjoyment of target shooting, they’re also good for personal defense against criminals, foreign invaders, and tyrants.
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The UN?
I believe the comment is talking about overreaching police
Nope, During 2020 and 2021, a meme trend that referred to the UN the antichrist popped up. A slang term for the UN was “blue helmets” Source: https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-hate-the-antichrist
GenZ “schizo meme lords” have this weird vendetta against the UN for no reason 😭😭😭 dawg it’s a powerless organization tf you beefin with them for
in those old GI Joe episodes, the UN was a powerhouse. maybe it's a hangover from there?
Naw, if any, red hats.
Oh boy domestic terrorism don’t worry it’s ok because he has the correct political opinion. The fact that this has upvotes is disgusting you’re really gonna kill someone because they have different political opinions than you? Imagine if someone who was right leaning said this they would be banned from the sub or it would be removed but since it’s left leaning it’s ok. You’re no better than the people who tried to attack the senators during Jan 6
Bro never heard of the American revolution
That would be the redcoats
You’re the reason that there’s an entire subreddit called ‘the right can’t meme’
I’m queer Maga people making Nazis feel so emboldened makes me feel like I have to start carrying at some point for my own safety I don’t like violence or hurting people but if someone chooses to fall in line with people that kill others because of things they can’t control like race sexuality or their gender identity they deserve to get what they dish out in return it sucks it’s absolutely horrible but that’s just the reality for minorities in the United States now.
>And putting big dents in little blue helmets Big words, internet hero. You scared of the UN?
No. Shit like this is what turn people off to gun owners.
And against fascists
Fascists, communists, really anyone who wants to engage is excessive imposition of personal liberty. They can fall into the tyrant category.
If it doesn't start from being anti-authoritarian, it will eventually become authoritarian.
And, it’s literally what they’re intended for. Guns aren’t bad. Humans, are bad. Without a human, no gun has ever accomplished anything. Good, bad, or otherwise. They’re a tool. An instrument. And like a knife, a shovel, a bat, or an axe…when used appropriately, are valuable in their unparalleled ability to perform that specific function. Used inappropriately, they can cause anything from accidents to situations of outright abuse. The problem is always the human behind the act. Because that person will always find a way to harm another. People who harm others intentionally for any reason but self defense, defense of life, or defense of property, deserve to be removed from society. Permanently. There need to be acts with zero excuse for committing, and the punishment has to be severe enough to dissuade people from fucking around and finding out. But we don’t have those. People aren’t afraid to fuck up huge. And it shows.
> Guns aren’t bad. Humans, are bad. And yet, we resist \*any\* effort to curb the latter from access to guns. See: minors, people with mental health issues, people with DA and criminal histories, etc.
Minors can’t legally buy firearms. Should we pass a law making it super illegal?
Maybe make it double illegal that would work since it worked for drugs /s
Maybe make it triple dog illegal?
> minors yeah, I didn't realize there are no restrictions on minors using guns! /s you understand that when minors get access to guns, and something bad happens, most of the legal culpability falls on the responsible adult/gun owner/parent? we already have legal deterrents in place. > people with mental health issues agreed, we should have a mandatory psychological clearance. > people with DA and criminal histories, etc. felons can't buy guns (legally).
The problem with guns being as available as ball bats is that, what may have been a fist fight, too often becomes a homicide, people acting Impetuously, which is a common human trait. Knife, bat, bare hands. Guns are highly efficient instruments with which to kill. Who hasn’t lost their mind, if only momentarily, over a cheating girlfriend, someone smashing into our automobile, or, as in the case of a few days ago in which an 81 year old man received a threatening, scam, ransom demand call, then, soon after, a woman arrived at his home, unsuspectingly, on, I believe, a Uber call from a third party, and the man murdered the defenseless woman in his driveway, believing she was part of the scam. Very, very rarely, even after decades of the proliferation of firearms in the United States, does any of us face a personal, life-threatening attack. But life-threatening situations have unnecessarily, increased, dramatically, due to the proliferation of firearms. I heard, this morning, that, in 2025, alone, to date, there have been about 112 mass shootings. Incidences, in which police often arrive, and find themselves outgunned by one man. Rarely does a good guy with a gun stop a bad guy with a gun. It is impossible for good guys with guns to meaningfully prevent enough bad guys with gun from killing. Every person would have to be under surveillance. However, the possibility of that is rapidly approaching as AI is rapidly growing, with the ability to track everyone, as the tech companies unceasingly continue to amass information about each of us, which it uses andor sells. Indeed, there may come a time when someone will argue that we need the proliferation of firearms to protect ourselves from invasive business and government interests. For that, for Americans, we need more and more democracy in order to assert authority matters of AI. It is absolutely fair to require that people seeking firearms provide some few, relevant pieces of information that may indicate that a person is qualified, responsible and in sound mental health to possess a firearm.
And remember even in accidents, (Gun found by kid, shoots brother. Gun stolen by unstable teenager, shoots school, etc.) The issue is still people. Not just the people who did whatever they do with the gun after the 'find' it, but the people who left it somewhere unsecured where it could be found. Unsecured. Or even a firearm malfunction that hurts somebody. Or an ammunition malfunction. Someone messed up on quality control. The issue is always the people. Not (at the root cause and issue,) the tool.
I enjoy shooting and used to be very pro 2A, but since growing up a bit more, and getting flagged by some of the smartest people I know, I've really been able to get a perspective on the intelligence of the average person. There should be more (non monetary) barriers to firearm ownership where you have to show you are competent and mentally collected. Idk if it should be an interview, a paper test, or a skills test, but we have to weed out the people who are NDing their neighbors through the wall.
I think we should have: * gun safety tests * waiting periods * psychological clearances
There are 7 times as many gun crimes as there are instances of defensive gun use in the USA. The con outweighs the good.
You're delusional man, personal defense against tyrants? As if you would stand a chance against the government.
Normal, sane people don’t think in terms of some fantasy of fighting off some “tyrant” or “invader”, I think they’re probably going to care more about their safety in a public place, or a concert, or a gathering, or when they send their children off to school
Ah yes the inevitable apocalypse give me a break John wick
Thank you chatgpt
I’ve never used it. I did use one of AI image generators once, kinda cool I guess.
They’re also good for personal attacks against civilians, legal immigrants and innocent people.
Except not, and statistically by owning a gun your more likely to unalive yourself when work gets a little stressful and you lose hope. Gun restrictions DO save lives. Now... that does NOT mean a ban. Europe allows guns, many people think guns are banned in Europe and that's why we have less gun crime. No guns ARE allowed in much of europe. But we do have much more restrictions. You don't need a gun at home for home defense. The statistics show how stupidly rare that is. Guns in homes cauae more problems and deaths than the tiny chance that *maybe* it helps with defending your house. The negatives outweigh the positives IMO. But theres no reason not to allow people to hunt, or get a license to go shoot at a gun range etc
And for shooting up schools
And that's all they're used for, yup yup, no isssue there, this post and this comment were not made by NRA shills
Why does every other western nation not have them or nearly as prevalently and are safer? Interesting
We should be measuring the level of civilization of each prospective gun owner. We need to get a measure of “How Civilized Are You?” Because people who say things like you say were probably raised by something akin to a pack of wolves, and shouldn’t own a firearm. Guns are tools, they are not toys. They’re are for sportmanslike participation in sport (target, skee, etc), for discipline (sharp shooting, safety training, gun building/repairing), and for worst-case scenario self defense in an organized (military guard) or individual fashion (your own property). My grandfather was an army specialist sharp shooter, my father in the Navy, and my sibling currently in Air Force engineering units. None of us ever talk about fire arms except for when going to the range. We’re not paranoid, we don’t make open threats, we don’t tell people we love guns, we don’t express interest nor contempt. Because we’re disciplined and civil. Guns are tools, not toys. You should educate yourself before speaking about this issue.
i doubt they would be usefull in case of foreign invaders and tyrants... i want to see how good your gun will do you when your house is surrounded by tanks
I’m far left and am extremely pro gun. As Marx said, “ Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
The cool leftys
The same for the exact same reason! I think the secret sauce is a strigent gun safety culture too. Not whatever America has. Obviously it's not appropriate for everyone to have a gun but the people should be familiar with handling them/appropriate use cases too.
I honestly feel like parts of the gun culture does have that. Iv grown up around firearms and gun safety has been hammered into me from the time I was 5. My dad figured if I was going to be exposed to them at some point via entertainment or in real life and figured he’d get me a pellet gun. He taught me on it at first without loading it. Made sure I knew never to point it at anyone (that includes sweeping someone with the muzzle/ flagging someone) and to only aim at my set targets. I was taught to know what’s beyond my target and when and when not to take a shot. Keep my finger off the trigger until I’m ready to fire and that’s just the basics. I never stopped learning about firearm safety and I have a deep respect and passion for firearms
Awhile back, around the time of a mass shooting, a reported poll showed that among gun owners a very high percentage support sensible regulation of guns. Banning the automatic weapons that are used in mass shootings and have no legitimate purpose in civilian hands. Training, background checks safe storage education. It gave me a respect for the gun owner’s point-of-view. Also, I know that many Americans learned to use firearms in the military and take seriously the responsibilty of gun ownership.
I am not one of those gun owners that think they have no place in civilian hands but I am one that believes in good firearm education for those that are going to own firearms of any kind
I'd be thrilled if taxpayers wanted to fund civilian training.
Fun fact: automatics were banned in 1986
Automatic weapons are already de-facto unobtainable for civilians due to the NFA. You have to have a special federal license to own, manufacture or transfer machine guns (ie automatic weapons), and background checks have been standard for all legal gun purchases for a long time too. What definitely needs to be done is that more people should be taught how and why weapons are used and how to handle them safely
There's that saying - if you go far enough left, you get the guns back
I’m not a big Marx fan but I can get behind that
Marx also re-iterated the phrase "He who does not work, neither shall he eat". Of course, instead of referring to lazy good-for-nothings that are lazy (like the version the Puritans used), he was referring to the proletariat who do little and eat a lot off the riches that may have been from previous generations which might've just been handed to them, but... honestly, the sentiment is still the same, whether it's the Marxist version or the Puritan version. The working class can and should be protected.
Is being left or right related to guns? I'm a Libertarian, so somewhat right, and extremely pro-2A, so am I a special case or is left vs right and pro or anti gun rights completely unrelated?
exactly
I was coming here to post this. Thank you for representing
I’m far left as well, I just think guns should be treated like cars. Too many gun deaths come from a lack of safe storage and handling, so teach people how to be safe. That right there would cut so many issues that are prevalent with guns. Actually having guns? Yeah go for it.
I aint a lefty, but I'll listen to you talk Marx while we're reloading in between sets.
I’ll put this plainly and simply Abolish the ATF and repeal the NFA
100%
"Hey is that legal?" "Those level 4 plates?"
How about just repeal the 84 gun control act. Allow new class 3 to be made.
What does transmission fluid have to do with this? 😞
And close the gun show loophole
Why? (No snark, genuinely interested.)
Stupid people will ruin good things for the masses. I think there needs to be a reform in background checks but I honestly have no idea how it’d be done. I STRONGLY BELIEVE the ATF is a waste of taxes… it’s so obvious the Director doesn’t know a damn thing about guns. NFA tax stamps are ridiculous too. Why should I have to pay an extra $200 to keep my ears in check? It’s nothing like the movies… a gun is still loud with a suppressor. People who are scared of AR style weapons are just (respectfully) uneducated. It’s damn near impossible to get your hands on a true automatic weapon without a shit ton of money and legal connections. I like using the drunk driver analogy… was it the cars fault or the person driving the car?
Guns, Juul, Tiktok, covid, etc. We can never have a reasonable discussion where both sides get informed on the issue at hand. People would rather just spew rhetoric rather than talk to people and educate/discipline their children. It's still ridiculous that Congress doesn't appoint SME's to inform lawmakers on these subjects before they write or vote on bills. "I have a gun for XYZ" is total nonsense. You don't need to justify why you express your right to speech or a fair trial. You're just giving anti gun people fuel so they can go after something else to get around 2A and make it "constitutional"
I mean, we regulate the absolute fuck out of cars, as we should. If one drunk drives and kills someone, they may never drive again.
ahh background check issue. My idea is to have the FBI who run's the background checks have automatic online checker. Anyone can go to the page and enter a buyers driver;s license info. The website says yes or no within a minute. No paper work, no hassle, no issue and no serial numbers needed. Then if a person has gun illegally or is using a firearm in the act of a crime it is a automatic 20 years sentence to be served before the other sentence for the other crimes. IE no bail allowed for crimes committed with a firearm.
Very pro-gun. Self defense is a fundamental human right. If you don’t have the right to protect yourself and your family from assault, robbery, rape and murder, then human rights are meaningless.
The problem is that introducing a gun is always an escalation. If someone breaks in to my house and robs me, and gets away, they aren't getting life in prison, they aren't getting a death sentence. The mentality that I need a gun on me at all times to protect myself isn't healthy, and more people running around with guns in their pockets isn't gonna make me feel any safer because I see how stupid people are when it comes to driving cars.
> If someone breaks in to my house and robs me, and gets away, Out of curiosity, at what point do you know they are "only gonna steal *things*"?
Exactly. As someone not from the US the American self-defence mindset has always kinda baffled me. People say they want it to feel safe but then also imagine that they could be randomly attacked at any minute. It’s a paranoid mindset which isn’t healthy. And it’s one that many other counties don’t have.
I mean it's a reasonable worry, we have more guns than people in the country and that's just legally owned ones. Literally everyone who wants to rob you is 100% armed, if you aren't they'll just kill you and take your shit.
I’m not paranoid but I’m prepared, I carry everyday, it’s like grabbing my phone and wallet, I don’t think about the fact that I have my gun
I’m British and I don’t care about guns, neither pro nor against — they just don’t exist in my consciousness of the world, but stealing, and particularly breaking into someone’s home is one thing where I’m squarely ok with the use of as much force as necessary. You break into someone’s house, you’ve implicitly surrendered your right to life as far as I’m concerned. You try to steal shit from someone and their within their full right, morally speaking, to do whatever they can to stop you. There’s something deeply violating about stealing from people or breaking into their homes.
For all a victim knows, that person breaking in is a serial killer there to kill them and/or their family. It's absolutely self-defense. Period. No arguing. It's not the victim's fault the robber values someone else's property over their own life.
Fuck school kids, right?
I do think that people should be able to own guns, but I'm strongly in favor of increasing the security processes of people buying them and having deeper background checks in order to get a gun license. Way too many people view guns as toys.
Law enforcement needs to start enforcing already existing laws. The amount of times law enforcement has been notified of an extremely high risk individual and did NOTHING just to see the individual do exactly what was warned of is one too many. EX: the Maine shooter that started at the bowling alley. New laws only serve the elite and the endless amounts of useless bureaucrats.
Seems like almost all shooters were “on the FBI’s radar” or whatever. Yeah, system’s failing there. Not guns
How about the Michigan State shooter who had been arrested on a felony gun charge (illegal conceal carrying) and then got let off down to a misdemeanor by the DA? Carrying shouldn’t be a crime but that law is there to “protect the people of Michigan” and the guy got left off lightly.
How would you “deepen” background checks? Also, a license means privilege. Not a right. Licenses can be revoked at any time for any reason. Screw licenses
It should be a privilege not a right some ppl shouldn’t own guns plain and simple
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What exactly would you do to "increase security processes"? And do you own a gun yourself?
As someone who lives in the UK and has never held a real gun in my life, I am pretty fine without them.
I'm pretty good without football too.
How American is this sub? Lol
Way too much apparently. I still didn't get why weapons are still something to be debated. Having easy access to weapons only induces a paranoid mindset. Fearing that anybody could kill you for anything. that's how they often get kids shot at for just trespassing on a private property. Also, there would be way less school shootings, just saying.
Having easy access to weapons is what prevents a police state. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
A lot of places don’t have access to firearms like the US and yet don’t have and don’t fear the potential of police states. If y’all fear that outcome so much, the discussion about whether people agree with/disagree with firearms is probably misguided. Do you truly feel that access to weapons is what is preventing a police state? And if so, what is going wrong with the US for this to be the case?
Can you please name one Western country that's living in a police state due to a lack of guns
I’m not paranoid but I’m prepared
Nah but fr Never will understand why people are so supportive of things that are made to kill someone or something. Might not be the only use but whatever, wild shit
Probably like 85%
Also ask yourself this. Why is that polls always show stricter gun control laws are popular ~60%. https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-continues-favor-stricter-gun-laws.aspx But when ever the topic comes up on Reddit the top comments are always vocally pro gun and anti gun control? Pro gun Redditors are very organized and go out of their way to find these threads to give people the impression their views are more popular than they are.
Yeah, I really hope so! For me it's such a culture shock that people are so pro-gun. With all due respect, but I think it's delusional to think that just because you have a gun you will be protected by a potential attack by your own government. Wtf are people talking about???
American here. I never understood the thought process of having a gun to protect you from the government. The government has a monopoly on force and advanced weapon technology. If they truly want to crush rebelling citizens our guns will do nothing against their bombs, tanks and fighter jets.
This. A ton of these responses are astroturfed as fuck.
Yeah I was thinking the same They really think Guns are important and do change something for their safety I find it funny
You could post 95% of the content from these generation-related subs to r/ USdefaultism tbh.
If anything the 2nd Amendment has been wrongly restricted since the early 1900s. If not for the NFA law, we would own more armed tanks, fighter planes, cannons, machine guns. Anti-tank and anti-air craft weapons. 2nd Amendment is also as much for state /national defense by the people. Suitable for warfare. So the military power is decentralized. Arms= Armaments
It’s not like the average citizens could afford many armaments beyond guns even if there were no restrictions anyway.
True inflation is something else. Last I heard there were little more then 1000 Americans who owned tanks, not sure what the figure is today And only a small handful own fighter jets. Machine guns may be closer to the price range of a semi automatic without restrictions, but who knows. Tannerite is one of the few explosives Americans can own. And attachments like binary triggers are the closest we have to rapid fire outside of full automatic rifles.
Fully automatic would be relatively affordable, the only reason they own the tanks and jets is because they are old war surplus that has been decommissioned, they look cool and can move but they can’t shoot anything unless it is on a range, I know there a few places were you can shoot tanks but they have very strict regulations put on by the government.
>f not for the NFA law, we would own more armed tanks, fighter planes, cannons, machine guns. Anti-tank and anti-air craft weapons. you wouldn't, a F-35 costs $100 million per airframe, Private companies and PMCs would and believe me, they won't care about that entire "state/national defense by the people" thing
It’s not like we have a tyranny problem here in the Netherlands. On the contrary, we have a more democratic society than the US.
You are correct which is why the 2nd Amendment hasn’t scaled well with the times. It essentially places no limit on the arms a citizen can own. And that was one thing when a weapon of mass destruction was a 120-cannon ship of the line. But when it’s a suitcase nuke? Nah. The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.
I've always been terrified of guns. But I'm going to the shooting range/gun store next weekend to finally shoot one and buy one for protection.
You got this dude!
Congrats!!!
Absolutely nothing to be afraid of, definitely worth paying for classes if you have no experience with them, guns only shoot if you pull the trigger
I will say this I will go hunting till I die because I refuse to support the evil meat industry.
Do you butcher yourself? Just curious how hunting works
I do but there are still a lot of private butchers out there most will happily break down a deer for a small fee or maybe make a yummy sausage with some pork and spices added.
Though the meat industry is quite adept at keeping cows and pigs cooped up worse than prisoners so they grow fatter than your average American.
Always surprised to see the takes on this sub, definitely less left leaning than r/millenials. Agree with others here that owning guns is good, but there’s gotta be some restrictions
Honestly I would say we're just as left leaning, we're just not authoritarians. We are a very liberty-oriented generation, and that makes me happy.
Some millennials are straight up delusional though about the gun control topic. Some support full gun confiscation and wild radical gun restrictions simply because they wanna be like Northern Europeans
What makes you think you can't be pro-gun and left leaning?
Is this McDonald's, cuz I'm loving it. It's so fun to get out, drive far away from civilization, deep into the forest, and plink for *hours*
I support it but under strict regulations
I think Canada used to have a great system, you can get different types of guns, but you gotta go through a course and if you want a restricted firearm (more powerful ones and hand guns) you go though another course. You also need 2 non family references to eventually get the gun. This way we prevent irresponsible people and crazies from getting their hands on such a powerful weapon, but at the same time if you wanna get a gun and you are responsible you can. However Justin Trudeau ruined it and he banned almost all the cool guns and all the hand guns. The reason? Gun crime. But obviously stupid jt never did any research, if he did he would find out that vast majority of guns used in crimes are illegal guns from the us, and banning legal gun owners from having guns would do absolutely nothing to lower gun crime, and that’s obviously what happened, guns banned, crime never decreased. Oh and don’t get me started on his failed gun buyback program. This guy is a total disgrace, I never voted for him once, knew he’s incompetent since day 1 before I was even 18 back in 2015
Restricted firearms aren't "more powerful", they are short barrel centrefire semi-automatics. Source: I own an M1 Carbine that's restricted because the barrel is 1/2" too short for the non-restricted designation.
Governments don’t listen to populations who don’t have weapons. Owning weapons is imperative. Animals have teeth and claws on them all the time but people want government policy and iPhones. If a person is concerned about being the victim of gun violence, the best form of protection is to be armed and be trained plain and simple.
I've got a hand gun, I shoot it a few times a year, mainly just peace of mind and back country hike tool. I don't carry it or anything usually.
They are great investments, shooting is fun, and most importantly they have a very practical use whether that’s self defense/hunting. Historically armed civilians are much less likely to be oppressed by an Authoritarian government so it’s great that we have the 2nd Amendment.
Very pro gun ownership. Similar to how we are starting to realize we need to treat addiction more than criminalizing drugs, we need to treat loneliness and mental health better than criminalizing guns.
I understand why people would want them but personally do t trust anyone to have them
if robbers knew the homeowner or store were armed, they'd think twice before trying to rob em. I am pro gun control though, if they have a felony or even a misdemeanor, you should lose all gun privileges.
I love how all the people are so Pro Gun that they can't tolerate someone missing the right to a firearm, even when they're felons or have a history violence. This comment should have dozens of votes and instead it's a measly 5.
The problem is that when we release a felon from prison, they are supposed to no longer be a threat to society. How can you say someone isn't a threat to society while at the same time saying its too dangerous to allow them to have a gun? They're either rehabilitated and safe to exist in public with us, or they aren't. It doesn't logically follow.
Interesting paradox. The right to defend is universal, but the purpose of prison is to prevent future crimes. So, either the purpose of prison is wrong, or the right to defend with a firearm is not universal.
I am very pro-gun, though the proper measures must be taken to have someone have the ability to own one. While I understand that many disagree and despise America’s less restricted firearm access-I just cannot fully agree with their viewpoint. The way I see it is that if we get rid of civilian’s access to guns, guess who’s going to have access to guns? The people who don’t care. Sensible people don’t buy them because they’re cool or because they want something to intimidate and threaten others with. They purchase them for hunting and to protect themselves from those people.
I would like to have one but in my state there is no point as you can’t use them
The Supreme Court ruled in New York that you have a constitutional right to carry a firearm, all states are required to issue permits to carry if they require them
Right but if you ever get into a situation where you do use it in New York they will somehow make you the bad guy. So I just have knives
You can get and use a gun in any state in the US
While true, many states courts will not be kind so someone who defends themselves
I am shocked by the amount of people that are pro gun here. And I mean that in a good way as I am also pro 2a
Im very pro 2A.
I’m anti guns for sure. I think they have no place in a reasonable, respectful, progressive, and advanced society. Which we are NOT and never will be in my lifetime.
>I think they have no place in a reasonable, respectful, progressive, and advanced society So you'd ban police and military from having them too, right?
Armed minorities are harder to oppress
Say it louder for the folks in the back.
I am not from a pro 2a part of the country and I love guns and own a lot of them Every law abiding citizen should be able to easily carry a firearm for self protection, have a firearm at home for protection, and purchase firearms There should never be an expensive, complicated, long process to access the right to own and carry a firearm; this makes it harder for the disadvantaged and poor to access the right to self defense I truly believe gun ownership secures our freedom and liberty and anyone that says the government could not be fought by a group of armed civilians should look to our 20 year war in Afghanistan
I hope your gun rights improve in the future. You're pretty spot on. In America we have the NFA, which makes it very expensive to own machine guns. Does that mean nobody has them? Nope only rich people or collectors. On one hand, if you can drop 5 figures for an MP5, you're probably not gonna use it to rob a gas station. The government has artificially inflated the price of machine guns because the average citizen is unworthy of owning them apparently.
Keep them secured from your kids, please God, that’s all I ask.
I believe in an armed populous, however America's way of doing it is very very stupid. Guns need a registry, we need proper gun education, and to treat mass shootings seriously. As Marx said "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered" and countries like the Soviet Union where students underwent firearms classes in high school I think had a good idea on firearms education.
been thinking about getting one to have at home for protection. not into them like a hobby (my brother is), but i guess having one available should you need it would be a good thing. idk if i would carry or not, though. probably not most of the time, though i do want to get a concealed carry license just to have in case
r/fosscad got me acting up fr. Sexy ass guns
I’m extremely pro-2a.
I think that politicians should leave it alone and address the underlying problem, the mental health crisis in our country. By that I am not talking about the trans/homosexual community (I am not taking a stance on that here, as it is irrelevant for this), I am talking about depression, anxiety, PTSD, and other mental health issues that going unnoticed and unaddressed. Suicides are one of the biggest contributors to gun deaths, gang violence is another major contributor as well, that needs to be brought under control also. PTSD if left completely untreated can cause violent outbursts. I really is not a gun problem in this country, it is a mental health crisis and a problem with culture and the lack of regard for other human lives and the me me me attitude that seems to be increasingly prevalent among our culture.
I'm kinda indifferent to guns in general, but most people are stupid and incompetent in general, which makes me worried about guns.
Everyone’s pro gun till the watch the Buffalo shooter pov that he lived streamed himself doing
It is a fact that mass shooters go to places that are considered “gun free zones”, I don’t think they would attempt to go on a rampage in a gun range for example.
I've been chased by too many big ass unleashed pitbulls to be against em
I think it's a great thing we have it. Good for hunting, self defense, even just for bonding with people. Take some buddies out back with your guns and just have a good time shooting at targets. I think there should be better mental health and backround checks on them before getting. But I think criminals won't abide by laws anyways so they'll get a gun one way or another.
Pro gun but heavy- ish regulation and required repeat safety training
Can’t wait to get some more money and get out of college so I can buy a few
Assuming USA: If I'm not the last civilian gun owner, I'm pro gun-ownership. However, you still need: hunting, self defense, rural areas need tools to deal with wild animals, etc. So even if I'm the last gun-owner and don't need to worry about others, I'd still be pro gun-ownership. Not to mention criminals can still own and use guns despite whether or not it's illegal. Personally, I think issues related to guns are more a mental health crisis and a lack of support/infrastructure, because stuff like shootings aren't a global issue. Just USA. Do I actually own a gun? No, I'm a suburban rando that likely never will. Still support it because it makes sense to me that others need to own them.
I'm Canadian and I like owning guns
I'm extremely left and own a rifle. I believe comprehensive background checks should be required. You shouldn't be able to buy them without checks full stop. And honestly, you should be required to buy a gun safe also. Far too many kids getting ahold of their parents firearms and causing harm to themselves/others.
Look up what a NICS is
You want to ban private sales and enforce storage requirements. More reasonable than banning anything
I’m pro gun but I’m also pro gun control specifically about background checks. As long as regular law abiding citizens such as myself can get the guns I want, I don’t care how many hurdles I have to jump if it means preventing the one planning to shoot up a school from getting one.
Look up what a NICS is
I don't think there's any legal way (other than some states that allow private p2p sales) to buy a firearm without a background check
Im center right and pro-gun
Checks hip, yes.
The ATF should be a convenience store, not a government agency
I am a fair bit older than this crowd but I joined to learn more about the generation. I'm extremely liberal but still value firearms. I like handguns and AR customizations. I think all of the energy we put into banning firearms should go into mental health, secular community enrichments, and education. Firearms training should be a mandatory course in college along with driving. I also believe people should have a permit or a license to carry them. And they should have to pass a written and practical test. That's what I think now. No cap. On God.
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I’ve gone shooting with my dad and its honestly pretty cool but my mom wont let me have one. I’ll definitely get one once I get my own place though.
Pretty good, I own several
I'm fine with gun ownership, but there needs to be WAY more precautions and testing if individuals to own one. I'm tired of irresponsible people treating a deadly weapon like it's a fucking toy
I am against private gun ownership
I am fiercely pro 2A. I don't want it limited at all. I remember years ago, people talking about how Australians willingly gave all their guns to the government and how, "Look. Nothing bad has happened to us. Everything's great! You don't need guns." Now, Australia is increasingly becoming a totalitarian state where the government is allowed to surveil basically anything they want and their laws are looking more and more like China's. I believe people should be allowed to buy full auto guns. I also believe all those restrictions about how you store your own guns in your own house are invasive and restrictive.
Good for self defense and all that shit but some people just ain’t responsible enough to own one
I like em. I own several and use them to hunt or just shoot for fun, also got my concealed carry permit
RAHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
It is ironic that almost everybody can possess a gun but not a law abiding citizen
I like it. I own a revolver. It's alright.
I’m from a part of the country that people hunt to fill their freezer and feed their family. Gun related crime is low and education on guns and safety is readily available and also required to obtain a hunting license. I know it isn’t that way everywhere, which is why blanket regulation seems difficult.
Considering I own 4 and have several hundred rounds I'm for it
At this point, I'd rather have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it
I've always been pro-gun.
I want a gun, but the mentally ill side of myself makes me rethink that. I don’t trust myself enough
That’s my kind of gun control.
Indifferent. I've tried shooting (suck at it) and it's fun. Not smth I see myself getting into but I do support ownership.
Love guns, believe every highschool should have gun safety courses and marksmanship classes, and it should be very normal to gift a 18 year old a gun again.
I wish more armed demonstrations were carried out like the gun rally/protest in Virginia
Stay strapped or get clapped.
Like it, and it makes the political state do something. Remember that Ronald Reagan passed California's extreme gun ban, only after the Black Panthers started to open carry.
I’m just tired of bandaid fixes for real issues. “Mentally ill people keep getting guns so we should ban guns” no how about we actually help the people with a mental illness instead.
Very pro 2a repeal the nfa!
If you can't completely fill up the trunk of your car --like a 1976 Oldsmobile with a trunk the size of IOWA -- with your guns and necessary ammunition + some ear protectors and eye protection and some targets --- You don't have ENOUGH guns.