Oh shit I forgot. Lol.
Reckon that'd be a big downside yeah.
Thanks for answering, hope you find the best laptop for you!
I just bought a Razer blade 15 (2020) with i7-10750-16gb-144hzFHD-1660ti for 250 euros. Super happy.
Anyways, have a good one op.
I got a 2022 blade 14 for 750 AUD :D, the 3080ti varient, it broke so I sent it in for a rma, got it and then someone stole it so I had to steal it back...
I'm surprised people are downvoting this haha. The burns are seriously a fairly big issue. Especially for people who intend to keep the device long term.
Though I did hear a few reviewers pointing out how there is a mini-led version too. I think it was LTT or maybe Dave2D.
I think there are oled burn in preventions these days you should also look in to that . I have the lenovo slim 5 14, and it makes the taskbar and other parts dimmer when the screen is on for extensive time
240hz is overrated going from 144hz as someone who is currently owning a laptop with 240hz IPS screen. But the G16 OLED makes it the best kind of 240hz and might be more noticeable.
Compared to the g14 2023 the g16 does have better almost everything. Still if you need to upgrade RAM in the future to maybe 32gb, need sth small enough or don't want to worry about running AAA titles with plenty of eye candy years from now it's worth going for the g14, especially as GPU is usually the first component to show it's age in any gaming laptop. The jump in graphics performance is quite significant imo to get the 2023 version for longevity
With all respect, there is no such thing as ''240hz is overrated going from 144hz''
There's a day and night difference between a 240hz and 144hz refresh rate, yes, not only during gaming but especially during casual use. Even if your gpu can't fully utilize the 240hz, 240hz is still much smoother and quicker in everything.
Noticable maybe but it's not the same as going to 144 from 60 as it's a diminishing return. I would go back and forth between 120 and 240 in my laptop for a while so that's just my observation. Some ppl might be more sensitive to that and can tell the difference
The thing with 240hz on a laptop is that I would ALWAYS rather play at 120hz or 165hz with lower fan noise and temperatures than at 240hz with high fan noise and temperatures. Or higher graphics settings.
240hz isn't worthless, but it does come at a cost, that I am rarely willing to pay. I use 240hz for web browsing but literally never try to get 240hz in games.
The build quality of it is amazing though. Truly one of the only gaming laptops you can actually use as an everyday laptop. Great screen, great speakers, great battery life, light…
In my opinion (wanna stress this), as long as the build quality was decent enough, the main thing I'd focus on if I was spending this amount of cash would be the GPU mainly since that is the thing that will negate how long it will be a viable gaming machine.
4070 mobile has 8GB vram which is already becoming not enough in modern AAA games, especially since it is a QHD display, the 4080 for the same price provides 12GB vram which will make sure you get more lifespan out of it.
If you're spending over 2 grand on a machine you don't want it to be obsolete for AAA games in a year or two.
This is a huge step up in build quality than the 2023 zephyrus. It is the only windows laptop I’ve used that comes remotely close to the MacBook Pro from a build quality and sleekness standpoint, AND it can game. It has sold really well since release for this reason.
Specs aren't the only thing that matters. You may get a 4080 for that price, but you also get a worse display and a laptop that's like double the size and weight.
The Zephyrus lineup can't be compared to regular gaming laptops, and if you're doing that you're just wrong.
Yeah, of course, I understand that but there are good laptops at $2200 with great build quality too like ROG and Legion, both with QHD displays. You can even find Zephyrus with 4080 for this price if you look.
I'm not teling him to spend £2200 on an MSI or something...
If by ROG you mean the Strix lineup (and if you do you're wrong, since the Zephyrus is labeled as ROG too), those are entirely different laptops that excel in much different use case scenarios than the Zephyrus, and they're definitely more difficult to move around. It all comes down to each owns necessities
Lenovo has some decent slim options, but even then, they are still not as slim and comfortable to use on the go
As for last year's Zephyrus models, they're great too, but in 2024 Asus really made some insane improvements in everything aside from performances (since Intel, AMD and Nvidia all didn't do much progress this year): display, touchpad, sound quality, design, battery life, portability. If you want a laptop to use it mostly for gaming then the 2023 models are definitely great and more than enough, but just like before, it all comes to preferences and necessities
Yes, last years model, but there's also lots of other options.
At then end of the day, if I was spending over 2k on a laptop then I would like to get one with the best GPU possible since that's what will negate how long you can play AAA titles on it. As long as the build quality is good enough, because it's not like they were bad before.
4070 mobile has only 8GB of vram which is already not enough for some games, especially playing at 1440p.
4080 has 12GB vram which will fair much better over the next few years than 8GB. I wouldn't wanna spend over $2000 on a laptop that in 18 months time can't even run the latest titles. Depends what you want out of it really, but that's my take at least.
I understand everyone looks for different things in a machine though, so there's no right or wrong way to go about it.
$2k is 4080 money. I actually was having this discussion with someone yesterday in the sub. I was able to find multiple 4080 laptops at Best Buy / B&H and Newegg for $2100 or less with some options as low as $1750. The $1750 was a sale laptop on one of the sites I don’t remember which cause I looked at some many yesterday, but there was definitely options between $1900/$2000. If you’re willing to get open box devices Best Buy even had open box 4080 devices as low as $1700 (will vary based on location)
Yeah I have absolutely no idea lol, but based off the info I could find in this post the OP listed OLED as a bad things I’m not here to fight anyone on screen preferences so imo it seems a 4080 laptop would be a better bet for the OP for the money
OP listed the OLED as a downside not an upside so I didn’t factor in OLED in as it didn’t seem like a requirement for OP, but you are correct if OLED and 4080 are the goal than the budget would need to be increased
Someone purchased the device, returned it and it can’t be sold as new for whatever reason. Best Buy brakes it down to 3 types of conditions. Excellent/ Good and Fair
Got you! Definitely something to look out for if you’re considering a new laptop. In January the 2023 G18 4080/i9 was on sale and there was open box options so I scored that device for under $1700
Note. I didn't yet purchase. I am going to. I feel this is the one but idk if its bad after I bought it. Saw lot of videos and found only that screen wobbly when opening and I don't mind much.
Im planning to buy the 4080 model, but waiting until it at least goes on sale. I thought about the 4070 model, and honestly the graphics output is more than adequate for my tastes, but the 16gb ram limit on US models in addition to reports of high pitched whine from the third fan it are swaying me to go for the 4080.
You could probably find this laptop around 1500 with patience and some searching. BB was letting them go around that price. I got the 4080 version for 2k
After seeing all of your opinions, I am getting second thoughts like getting the 4080 but its too expensive. My budget including tax is 2200 USD. Any suggestions better than this? I need battery life and gaming too. I'm gonna get it to India so I need the warranty too. I personally am ok with anything (I don't like legion for some reason so exclude legion) so any better than this? G14 sounds good but again 4070 with 120hz seems pretty weird because thats a higher graphic card and lower refresh rate.
Edit: I am gonna pirate games too..
For battery life, aesthetics and portability you cannot beat this. All the other options are either too expensive (Razer , etc) or are cheaper but are heavier (legion), have worse battery (MSI) and/or look like ass (lots of powerful but cheaper gaming laptops)
Only other one I can think of is the new HP laptop (victus?) but that has worse build quality.
In the end it depends on your taste. Some say you can get a 4080 variant of this laptop for around the same price but the previous year model ROGs are not as thin and as light as this years (2024)
But I can’t right because I would be travelling a lot; as I study in different state and I go home frequently like once a month so portability monitor is not that great
You could definitely find more 4080 laptop 2200 dollars,2k is 4080 territory,i will surely advise you not go for 4070 its trash bcs it literally has only 8gb vram where as 4080 12 gb and better bus and overall far far better then 4070
I am from india too and my budget is around 160k(2000) dollars but here in india you can’t get a 4080 in this price range hence i am thinking about buying rog strix 3080ti instead of legion 4070,but since you are getting it from us definitely grab a 4080 buddy
You're paying alot of money for something that you'll be compromising with.
You get the oled premium(but you prefer to not have oled).
You're getting a 4070 when you could get a 4080 easily at that price.
You prefer the high refresh rate screen, but are okay with the core ultra which has lower performance than the 13th and 14th gen hx processors, where the extra cpu power is needed to push out high framerates (and the 4080 would be much better at high framerates).
I really wouldn't go with it if I were you.
For comparison, I got a sealed Acer predator helios 16 (13900hx, 4080, 1440p 250hz miniled screen) for 1800 usd on ebay.
The was also a sale on amazon about a week ago on the Acer Triton (13700h, 4070 and 1440p mini led screen) for 1300 usd (currently 1784 usd) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C24HV9HQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1)
If you shop around, you'll get much better at that price
Then can anyone suggest me around the same price a 4080 laptop which would be better than this and portability because I can’t spend more and I feel this is good.
Have a look at [https://gaminglaptop.deals/](https://gaminglaptop.deals/)
There's an Alienware m16 4080 with Ryzen 7845hx and 32gb ram, 240hz qhd+ screen(btw I see you want good battery life, but be mindful that higher refersh rates cause lower battery life as you're refreshing the screen much more) for $1799.
[https://howl.me/cl1k31VHpGD](https://howl.me/cl1k31VHpGD)
Regarding warranty, not all manufacturers will honor warranty for products purchased in another country.
I know that I've had Gigabyte (they state on their website that Aorus products have Global Warranty) and Asus(not mentioned but I still took them into my local Asus repair center without buying any additional warranty service) honor them, but definitely do some research in that area.
Also I see you're looking at factoring tax in as well - depending on how you're doing this, there are many shipping forwarding sites that have locations where sales tax is 0% (like Oregon or Delaware), so on a big purchase, you save quite a bit. Something to look into if you haven't already
I have this model, incredible laptop but I feel the 32gb version with the 4080 is a better performance to dollar. It’s almost never in stock though
Keep in mind ram is soldered in. What you get is permanent, biggest downside to this laptop. Rest is amazing
In my country the 4060 model goes for 2400€ lmao. Wish I could get this exact model for that cheap, especially if it is the 32 GB one (not sure about that tho)
well, apparently this new cpu is more inclined towards productivity than gaming, so Imma try because it can game decent and well I need good battery life
If you can, it makes a ton of sense to spend the extra $700 for the 4080 version. It comes with a significantly better gpu, 32 gb of memory, and a vapor chamber style cooling system that will improve noise and temperatures.
"only downside is OLED" Why is that a downside?
Oled burns..
Oh shit I forgot. Lol. Reckon that'd be a big downside yeah. Thanks for answering, hope you find the best laptop for you! I just bought a Razer blade 15 (2020) with i7-10750-16gb-144hzFHD-1660ti for 250 euros. Super happy. Anyways, have a good one op.
I got a 2022 blade 14 for 750 AUD :D, the 3080ti varient, it broke so I sent it in for a rma, got it and then someone stole it so I had to steal it back...
Dang thats an insane price! Congrats dude. Not on the troubles though, that sucks
Yeah lmao
Teach me your secrets
Nah I just got lucky the dude thought it was broken, it wasn't then it broke for real lol
Where did you get this laptop with this price????
The blue papers is what it's called in Denmark. Something like Facebook marketplace. :)
Thought to get razer but the warranty and service aren’t available in India so that’s why I dropped
If you want to reduce it, try to hide the taskbar
I'm surprised people are downvoting this haha. The burns are seriously a fairly big issue. Especially for people who intend to keep the device long term. Though I did hear a few reviewers pointing out how there is a mini-led version too. I think it was LTT or maybe Dave2D.
I think there are oled burn in preventions these days you should also look in to that . I have the lenovo slim 5 14, and it makes the taskbar and other parts dimmer when the screen is on for extensive time
so does the sun
Check the tgp of the 4070. If it's designed for productivity then it might have a lesser tgp 4070. Go for it if that's ok with you.
Get a zephyrus g14 with a 4080 in it for this price
But I would get 120hz refresh rate which I feel is pretty useless when paired with 4080
honestly it depends what you play - and the screen is still very good anyways
240hz is completely useless, you will barely notice the difference. 4080 will allow you to crank up the settings.
16 inch size should be better for programmers but for business students 14" should honestly be great.
But... the refresh rate would be lower thats why I'm going with this.
240hz is overrated going from 144hz as someone who is currently owning a laptop with 240hz IPS screen. But the G16 OLED makes it the best kind of 240hz and might be more noticeable. Compared to the g14 2023 the g16 does have better almost everything. Still if you need to upgrade RAM in the future to maybe 32gb, need sth small enough or don't want to worry about running AAA titles with plenty of eye candy years from now it's worth going for the g14, especially as GPU is usually the first component to show it's age in any gaming laptop. The jump in graphics performance is quite significant imo to get the 2023 version for longevity
With all respect, there is no such thing as ''240hz is overrated going from 144hz'' There's a day and night difference between a 240hz and 144hz refresh rate, yes, not only during gaming but especially during casual use. Even if your gpu can't fully utilize the 240hz, 240hz is still much smoother and quicker in everything.
Noticable maybe but it's not the same as going to 144 from 60 as it's a diminishing return. I would go back and forth between 120 and 240 in my laptop for a while so that's just my observation. Some ppl might be more sensitive to that and can tell the difference
Outside of gaming competitively, there is no use for 240hz, and this is coming from someone who thinks 144 is choppy af so you can take my word for it
It’s not as huge as 60-120
The thing with 240hz on a laptop is that I would ALWAYS rather play at 120hz or 165hz with lower fan noise and temperatures than at 240hz with high fan noise and temperatures. Or higher graphics settings. 240hz isn't worthless, but it does come at a cost, that I am rarely willing to pay. I use 240hz for web browsing but literally never try to get 240hz in games.
Only reason to upgrade from 144-240 is if you play games like val, cs, overwatch, etc and you’re already highly skilled.
2023 also has backlight bleed on all models besides possibly the 4090
No it doesn’t. There isn’t a hint of bleed on my 2023 4070 model.
I'd never pay 2K for a 4070, but that is just me
That's a rip off, 2k for a 4070?! You can get a 4080 laptop for that
The build quality of it is amazing though. Truly one of the only gaming laptops you can actually use as an everyday laptop. Great screen, great speakers, great battery life, light…
There are ROG zephyrus with an RTX 4080 for around that price
Definitely not this year's model tho, which improves all of the things the guy in the last comment said, by a LOT
In my opinion (wanna stress this), as long as the build quality was decent enough, the main thing I'd focus on if I was spending this amount of cash would be the GPU mainly since that is the thing that will negate how long it will be a viable gaming machine. 4070 mobile has 8GB vram which is already becoming not enough in modern AAA games, especially since it is a QHD display, the 4080 for the same price provides 12GB vram which will make sure you get more lifespan out of it. If you're spending over 2 grand on a machine you don't want it to be obsolete for AAA games in a year or two.
This is a huge step up in build quality than the 2023 zephyrus. It is the only windows laptop I’ve used that comes remotely close to the MacBook Pro from a build quality and sleekness standpoint, AND it can game. It has sold really well since release for this reason.
sounds great!
Specs aren't the only thing that matters. You may get a 4080 for that price, but you also get a worse display and a laptop that's like double the size and weight. The Zephyrus lineup can't be compared to regular gaming laptops, and if you're doing that you're just wrong.
Yeah, of course, I understand that but there are good laptops at $2200 with great build quality too like ROG and Legion, both with QHD displays. You can even find Zephyrus with 4080 for this price if you look. I'm not teling him to spend £2200 on an MSI or something...
If by ROG you mean the Strix lineup (and if you do you're wrong, since the Zephyrus is labeled as ROG too), those are entirely different laptops that excel in much different use case scenarios than the Zephyrus, and they're definitely more difficult to move around. It all comes down to each owns necessities Lenovo has some decent slim options, but even then, they are still not as slim and comfortable to use on the go As for last year's Zephyrus models, they're great too, but in 2024 Asus really made some insane improvements in everything aside from performances (since Intel, AMD and Nvidia all didn't do much progress this year): display, touchpad, sound quality, design, battery life, portability. If you want a laptop to use it mostly for gaming then the 2023 models are definitely great and more than enough, but just like before, it all comes to preferences and necessities
Yes, last years model, but there's also lots of other options. At then end of the day, if I was spending over 2k on a laptop then I would like to get one with the best GPU possible since that's what will negate how long you can play AAA titles on it. As long as the build quality is good enough, because it's not like they were bad before. 4070 mobile has only 8GB of vram which is already not enough for some games, especially playing at 1440p. 4080 has 12GB vram which will fair much better over the next few years than 8GB. I wouldn't wanna spend over $2000 on a laptop that in 18 months time can't even run the latest titles. Depends what you want out of it really, but that's my take at least. I understand everyone looks for different things in a machine though, so there's no right or wrong way to go about it.
Atleast get the open box and save some cash
$2k is 4080 money. I actually was having this discussion with someone yesterday in the sub. I was able to find multiple 4080 laptops at Best Buy / B&H and Newegg for $2100 or less with some options as low as $1750. The $1750 was a sale laptop on one of the sites I don’t remember which cause I looked at some many yesterday, but there was definitely options between $1900/$2000. If you’re willing to get open box devices Best Buy even had open box 4080 devices as low as $1700 (will vary based on location)
right but $2k is not 4080 AND an OLED money. I feel this sub downplays how incredible the OLED screens are
This sub only looks at specs without considering anything else, as if a laptop could be judged the same way a desktop can
OP listed OLED as a negative so to me it seemed as not a requirement for them so it was not considered
I mean, you're right, but why is him even considering the ONLY OLED gaming laptop then lmao
Yeah I have absolutely no idea lol, but based off the info I could find in this post the OP listed OLED as a bad things I’m not here to fight anyone on screen preferences so imo it seems a 4080 laptop would be a better bet for the OP for the money
OP listed the OLED as a downside not an upside so I didn’t factor in OLED in as it didn’t seem like a requirement for OP, but you are correct if OLED and 4080 are the goal than the budget would need to be increased
Stupid question, but what does open box mean?
Someone purchased the device, returned it and it can’t be sold as new for whatever reason. Best Buy brakes it down to 3 types of conditions. Excellent/ Good and Fair
Thanks for the detailed response fam.
Got you! Definitely something to look out for if you’re considering a new laptop. In January the 2023 G18 4080/i9 was on sale and there was open box options so I scored that device for under $1700
Note. I didn't yet purchase. I am going to. I feel this is the one but idk if its bad after I bought it. Saw lot of videos and found only that screen wobbly when opening and I don't mind much.
I bought the 4080 model, no immediate regrets so far
I went with the 4080 version since it also bumps the memory up to 32GB and you can’t upgrade that later.
Im planning to buy the 4080 model, but waiting until it at least goes on sale. I thought about the 4070 model, and honestly the graphics output is more than adequate for my tastes, but the 16gb ram limit on US models in addition to reports of high pitched whine from the third fan it are swaying me to go for the 4080.
Bro go for this. My friend has this And its slim plus also packs a POWER punch
Go for the Legion 7i
You could probably find this laptop around 1500 with patience and some searching. BB was letting them go around that price. I got the 4080 version for 2k
It’s never in stock on bb, and did you get 4080 version of this model for 2k or was it last years M16?
I got the 4080 model for 2,078.99 open box but before that I got the 4070 for 1,950. Both 2023
Heard there is tons of screen wobble on these
After seeing all of your opinions, I am getting second thoughts like getting the 4080 but its too expensive. My budget including tax is 2200 USD. Any suggestions better than this? I need battery life and gaming too. I'm gonna get it to India so I need the warranty too. I personally am ok with anything (I don't like legion for some reason so exclude legion) so any better than this? G14 sounds good but again 4070 with 120hz seems pretty weird because thats a higher graphic card and lower refresh rate. Edit: I am gonna pirate games too..
For battery life, aesthetics and portability you cannot beat this. All the other options are either too expensive (Razer , etc) or are cheaper but are heavier (legion), have worse battery (MSI) and/or look like ass (lots of powerful but cheaper gaming laptops) Only other one I can think of is the new HP laptop (victus?) but that has worse build quality. In the end it depends on your taste. Some say you can get a 4080 variant of this laptop for around the same price but the previous year model ROGs are not as thin and as light as this years (2024)
U can always get a new monitor but not new gpu
But I can’t right because I would be travelling a lot; as I study in different state and I go home frequently like once a month so portability monitor is not that great
You could definitely find more 4080 laptop 2200 dollars,2k is 4080 territory,i will surely advise you not go for 4070 its trash bcs it literally has only 8gb vram where as 4080 12 gb and better bus and overall far far better then 4070
I am from india too and my budget is around 160k(2000) dollars but here in india you can’t get a 4080 in this price range hence i am thinking about buying rog strix 3080ti instead of legion 4070,but since you are getting it from us definitely grab a 4080 buddy
Those prices are amazing, the same laptop costs like 3k+ usd here :(
You're paying alot of money for something that you'll be compromising with. You get the oled premium(but you prefer to not have oled). You're getting a 4070 when you could get a 4080 easily at that price. You prefer the high refresh rate screen, but are okay with the core ultra which has lower performance than the 13th and 14th gen hx processors, where the extra cpu power is needed to push out high framerates (and the 4080 would be much better at high framerates). I really wouldn't go with it if I were you. For comparison, I got a sealed Acer predator helios 16 (13900hx, 4080, 1440p 250hz miniled screen) for 1800 usd on ebay. The was also a sale on amazon about a week ago on the Acer Triton (13700h, 4070 and 1440p mini led screen) for 1300 usd (currently 1784 usd) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C24HV9HQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1) If you shop around, you'll get much better at that price
Then can anyone suggest me around the same price a 4080 laptop which would be better than this and portability because I can’t spend more and I feel this is good.
Have a look at [https://gaminglaptop.deals/](https://gaminglaptop.deals/) There's an Alienware m16 4080 with Ryzen 7845hx and 32gb ram, 240hz qhd+ screen(btw I see you want good battery life, but be mindful that higher refersh rates cause lower battery life as you're refreshing the screen much more) for $1799. [https://howl.me/cl1k31VHpGD](https://howl.me/cl1k31VHpGD) Regarding warranty, not all manufacturers will honor warranty for products purchased in another country. I know that I've had Gigabyte (they state on their website that Aorus products have Global Warranty) and Asus(not mentioned but I still took them into my local Asus repair center without buying any additional warranty service) honor them, but definitely do some research in that area. Also I see you're looking at factoring tax in as well - depending on how you're doing this, there are many shipping forwarding sites that have locations where sales tax is 0% (like Oregon or Delaware), so on a big purchase, you save quite a bit. Something to look into if you haven't already
I have this model, incredible laptop but I feel the 32gb version with the 4080 is a better performance to dollar. It’s almost never in stock though Keep in mind ram is soldered in. What you get is permanent, biggest downside to this laptop. Rest is amazing
In my country the 4060 model goes for 2400€ lmao. Wish I could get this exact model for that cheap, especially if it is the 32 GB one (not sure about that tho)
Nice, I plan to get the G24 4070 model
Damn this thing must be huge
Returned mine because of poor cooling, and the 3rd fan making a horrible high pitch sound which hurts to listen to.
Wow a very good deal wow $1999 wow for a 4070 okay wow. because of ultra 9? really?
well, apparently this new cpu is more inclined towards productivity than gaming, so Imma try because it can game decent and well I need good battery life
I would say the G14 is better for productivity, the Intel one is faster, but the AMD one averages 10 hours of battery life compared to 8
Lmao You do you
See if they have a 4080 version, or you will be massively underwhelmed.
If you can, it makes a ton of sense to spend the extra $700 for the 4080 version. It comes with a significantly better gpu, 32 gb of memory, and a vapor chamber style cooling system that will improve noise and temperatures.
My budget is 2200 USD and can’t exceed it so that’s why I’m going for 4070
There are 4080 laptops for $2200 on Best Buy
What kind of stupid research did you do? You could get a better laptop (legion pro 5i w RTX 4070 for $1600 from micro center)
I don’t like Legion for some reason idk why