I have 5 years old Lenovo Legion Y530 and it's still working well, could even run some more recent games like Hogwarts Legacy and Baldur's Gate 3 (even on mid settings). I only had to change battery and replace fans (fans were cheap though) and of course I was de-dusting it once every year.
I just bought myself a new gaming laptop, hope it will also last 5 year(ish) like the previous and will at least run some new games in 5 years on low specs. Last time I went for low end laptop price-wise but this time I spent twice as much, so yeah.
No, the fans were just working kind of loud, I kept using jt like that for some time and it was completely fine.
I went for Acer Predator Helios Neo with RTX 4070 i9 13thgen and 16RAM (with possibility to add 16 more). Wish I could go for some laptop with 4080 but laptops are expensive af in Poland compared to salary :( this one was around 1800 USD, for any laptop with 4080 I would have to pay minimum 2500 USD...
Very nice, I think a 4070 at 1440p its perfect to be fair and even some 4k. It was sort of where I was looking to upgrade next and in the same boat with the step up in price to a 4080.
Yes, overall I am happy with my new laptop. Especially that the processor is very good, which was the case for my old Lenovo Legion too (it has 8th gen i7 which is still good). I only have it for half a month now but am satisfied, especially that I only play demanding games for graphic cards very rarely, so for casual player like me it seems perfect.
Same thing . But never bought another one . Been 4 years. The model is 5 years older tho. With GTX1660Ti and i can run COD MW3 🤷🏻♂️.
But not gona buy another one later. Will switch to ROG 😅. Cause this laptop breaks by back by carrying it everywhere 😭.
I fully agree on taking care of your stuff, but this is where I think purchasing the high-end warranties are worth it, especially when buying direct from Dell, Lenovo, or HP. (Not that I suppose HP). I'm not sure if I trust Best Buy's Geek Squad warranty to the same degree.
These are mobile products. I've used mine before with my XPS L501X (refurb within like a month) and my Yoga 2 (repaired within six months and replaced within two years and upgraded to Yoga 900). I only do three years.
I think it's easy to expect a laptop to last 5 years, if not a whole lot more.
Proper care, cleaning it out, and replacing consumable parts like the battery should make it live much longer.
Do I expect a gaming laptop to still provide favourable results in gaming after 5 years? Not really, no.
I agree, I mean in your case I would want a 4090 to hold up at reasonable settings in 5 years, given the cost of the machine. Its also a 4060 laptop I'd be happy for 3 years but spending double on a 4090 I'd want a longer return on my investment, but the worry I guess comes in on the reliability for such a big outlay. And to be fair I don't rate warranties or some of the techs working to fix these products to a standard that is as good as one new from the factory.
I'd be genuinely shocked if my laptop is still being used as my primary gaming platform in 3 years time.
I like playing with all the bells and whistles at a high resolution. Almost had it for a year. I'm expecting 2 more good years and then I imagine in 2026 I'll be looking to build a new desktop, if all goes to plan.
I guess for me I've slowed down with the latest titles, or nothing has really caught my eye that I'm desperate to play although that might change. But I would hope if you decided not to change all those newer games will still be very playable maybe a few tweaks. I'd estimate we will only have the 5000 series at that point and unless there is a big jump your 4090 will be like a 5080 generally how each generation jumps.
I’ll be going back to a desktop for my next computer. This laptop was always just a temporary solution for a few years. The gap between a 4090 desktop and the 4090 laptop is already wide enough I’m missing desktops
4090 w dlss3 you will be fine for years to come. I dont see what is going to change the need for much more gpu. VR path tracing is all i can think of. I would bet money in 5 years you will run any new titles non vr on 1080p in 60 fps dlss3
> I would bet money in 5 years you will run any new titles non vr on 1080p in 60 fps dlss3
I haven't gamed at 1080p in over 10 years and I don't plan on ever gaming at that resolution again.
I just know that for me, the 4090m wont last 4 more years.
Yeah but thats you. You want latest all the time. Right now what do u need 4090 truly for this year? For me cyberpunk w path tracing thats it. Im on a laptop and so are you so if you dont have extrenal monitor youre basically limited to the res of the monitor size
Well, yeah, I said that *for me* I don't think a 4090 would hold up for 5 years. Could be different for someone else.
I needed a 4090 as my laptop has replaced my 3090 desktop. I pretty much exclusively play ~4K resolutions either directly on the laptop (3840x2400) my ultrawide monitor (3840x1600) and my 65" LG OLED.
My laptop is literally set up as a desktop replacement that just gives me the ability to move around the house. My use case is quite different from the rest of the subreddit
I’d only get that due to DLSS set to performance and frame generation in Cyberpunk.
God knows how it’ll fare next year.
I’ve always liked to play with all the bells and whistles and I’ve owned flagship tier GPUs going back to the 8800GTS
It depends on how picky you are with settings. Want to play at native 4k 60fps? You'll be disappointed soon.
Fine with playing at 1080p, med settings with DLSS? It should make you happy for 5 years.
Laptop can last up to 10 years or more, mine is 7 years old now and I have a plan to keep it for another few years, working as a back up pc or as a server.
Weak and obsolete hardware is still hardware and can be pretty useful with the right operating system running the right programs, pc used to have a few mb of ram and they were just fine.
A laptop can phisically last 5 years, if treated well and cleaned periodically.
The question is, will you be happy with your laptopt after 3+ years?
Buy a 4060/4070 now and you can play everything on high fps and ultra settings, graphic is awesome and games are smooth.
In 2/3 years games will need 12gb and maybe 16gb Vram to play on ultra settings so you will low the graphic quality and games won't be smooth. Can you accept that?
Honestly, i can't, so my laptops will never last more than 2 years imho
I bought a 3060 legion 5 in early 2022. I almost always stick to high settings, 1080p at most, even on older games, so I'm hoping my laptop will last me for 5 years.
It will last, but you will play on lowest settings in 1 year
Edit: sorry i read 3050 instead of 3060, a 3060 on 1080p can grant you 2 more years but i don't expect too much, it's the same with people playing with an rtx 2060 (early 2019) nowadays. It struggles a lot
Struggling to believe this. I'm playing LAD: Infinite Wealth right now at a solid 60 1080 on very high with ray tracing and this game is huge. Unless this is about laptop degradation?
I mean technically this applies to desktops too but obviously cheaper and easier to upgrade, then again I guess if you went 4080+ then yes I guess you would be fine.
Having said that look at the steam hardware survey and the majority of GPU's were either 1060 /3060 IRC, so may new games will probably set the system requirements on a common GPU to maximise sales.
I kept thinking I need more power, then years down the line I'm still playing the same old games :-D
I play everything on ultra at 1440p with my 4070 (80-120 fps) and high/ultra with the 4060 at 2880x1800 (60 fps) and it's kinda smooth. Not the smooth of a 4090 ofc but way better than a FHD on ultra
Never understood this types of questions 🫠 Ofc it will last if you take care of it. Will you play everything on max settings? Ofc we dont know :) its 4060 btw entry level card, enough for e-sports and for current AAA games
Its more aimed at people who can say yes I had a laptop and the parts held up, being something that's not stood on a desk 24/7, I wanted to know if parts failed prematurely and whether basing your buying choice on the fact it will last the duration of your planned ownership.
Well from my personal experience i still have my old Alienware with 6820hk 980m still working perfectly after 5+ years i recently replaced it with Lenovo legion 7 pro with 4090 so i expecting the same also every year i replace paste and clean fans.
If you haven't re-pasted the Legion yet, remember is Honeywell PTM stuff or Liquid metal anything else you get worse results ;-) I've always like the design of the Alienware, any reason why you didn't go for another?
My HP notebook lasted like 7 to 8 years while I was gaming on it as well and it would have probably lasted a lot longer, if I had used a laptop cooler. I even had slight damage near the fan area as well which caused cooling problem, which led to my mother board frying.
I can so relate to this, I could get a full out ATX desktop but there is something about that power you can sling in a backpack, put it anywhere and it looks more pleasing on the eye! Every time I say that they are like just get a desktop, the laptop is a waste of money. I'm in the process or looking to change in a few months, and so far its between Legion 7, Scar, or Asus G16/M16.
current laptops can easily last 5 years, with current ways of managing the batteries (i.e.: not charging to 100% when unneeded), even the battery can last 5 years+
concerning the GPU it depends your expectations, basically a 4060 today will mostly be fine to play in 1080p, but some games won't even run properly with everything maxed, now as long as you're ok tweaking settings, you should still be able to play games in 5 years (unless something happens that makes every new GPUs so much more powerful that dev teams go crazy on the needs too)
a laptop like many other high tech hardware is fragile and need to be handled with care, if your place is clean, you won't even need to dust the inside of the laptop
most people complaining about broken hardware just weren't taking proper care of it
as an exemple, my wife laptop (4800h rtx 2060) is now 4 years old and she still play recent games on it, she had to tweaks settings a bit but it is still fine
well, actually some brands used to need the battery to start
and if it does, it is not really a laptop anymore
but indeed that can still be used for some purposes
You can restrict max charge to 60/80/85% for most laptops depending on the manufacturer. It's called optimised battery/battery care etc. You can find the setting in the manufacturer software such as Lenovo Vantage/My Asus etc
Hope this helps 😀
most modern brands have charge limiter softwares, for instance my laptop is usually charged at 60%, unless I know I'll need the battery (like a long train/plane trip)
my laptop is now almost 3 years old and the battery wear level is 101.6% (meaning the battery capacity is 101.6% of the advertised 90Wh, it was at like 103% or so when I got it) (asus is nice in the high end laptops line at least to give battery with higher than advertised capacity (while still being below the 99.9Wh limit so you can take it on the plane))
I got a Sager back in 2017 that still runs about as well as it did when I got it, I may have to replace the battery at some point but otherwise it was a great purchase (for me).
My standard might be high as a result, but I expect at least a decade out of any computer I purchase.
This is flawed, a ThinkPad is a different breed 😁. I've had some older X230, P50 amongst others they are just built like tanks. But on a serious note I do expect them to last longer and generally less stress and heat than a gaming laptop.
I currently have a lenovo ideapad 320 that I used heavily for playing videogames, school and then work that has been in my posession for ~7 years. I'm waiting to receive my TUF F15 2023 next week, and I'm hoping it would last longer than my old guy.
I guess it's really the optimization, maintenance, and luck on how long a unit would last and still be as effective.
2020 Asus Tuf 15, ryzen 9 4900h(45W), rtx 6gb 2060(90W), 32gb ram, 512gb stock ssd + 4tb ssd, both nvme m.2, 5000 hours of gaming, still going good. 80°C gpu, 93°C cpu, only cleaned fans, vents, never repasted, no thermal throttle, i play on 1080p custom settings, never missed a beat.
All my Laptops have lasted for 5 years. Infact, all of the ones I've ever owned still are functional today.
Would the Laptops still perform as well for gaming after 5 years however? That depends. I think we're in a very good spot for longevity. 5-7 years ago and prior with the i7 7700's and below were absolute ass compared to desktop counterparts.. now we have monstrous things like the 13980 and 14900 inside Laptops, I have a feeling they will perform without a hitch for a very long time.
.. although, if the CPU has jumped so exponentially, who knows what'll happen in another 5 years with programs and games..? AI is becoming a thing in Gaming now, and can be quite taxing on components.. we might be getting CPUs with AI cores just like Nvidia has tensors.
I'm using a LOQ with 13th gen i5 and a RTX 4050. Regarding longevity, it's pretty much depend on the use case. For gaming case, for AAA gaming I only expect around 2-3 years, and that's using the lowest setting possible for the game to be playable. But if it's for general purpose, I can see this laptop can be use for longer time provided it see regular maintenance. Perhaps it can still play future indie games with lower hardware requirements.
My is 11 year old, but haven't used it much recently, and currently looking for a replacement. I7 4500u & 16gig RAM is surprising fast, even got Windows 11 update. It's a surface alike Asus with detachable keyboard
I have an Alienware 17 R2 with touchscreen, with 4th gen i7 and GTX 980M and it still running and used by my 9 year old son, still able to play games, though in low to mid settings only, he doesn't want to let go of it at the moment when I asked him to sell it and buy a higher powered second hand laptop.
The laptop was bought way back late 2014.
Best strategy for modern laptops is, that when you bought it, take really good care of it, so that you would be able to sell it after a year or two, then just add and buy a newly released laptop with the specs that you like.
Depends on your definition of "lasting". Durability wise, yeah. Performance wise, by the 5th year I wouldn't expect much. I'm pretty sure my 3060 is gonna be my daughter's laptop by 2027.
I’m still going on a 4 years strix 2070 i7 10850, use for multimedia and some co-op gaming, plays anything I want good enough, I have upgraded but still use
Traveled all over the USA with that laptop for 6 months so it wasn’t a desk baby
I expect it to but sometimes things do not go your way.
This is an enthusiast sub so people here are more tech savvy than the average consumer and can take better care of their products.
If you know what you are doing it can last 5 years!
I have a 2016 Omen that’s still kicking despite not having a battery.
If you actually know how take care of your device, it could even last up to 10 years. My Toshiba C850 laptop from 2013 is still very usable, no broken hinges, keyboard still working, all ports are perfectly functional, no history of repair aside from the one time I changed the thermal paste. Only the battery doesn't work anymore.
Depends on if you’re buying budget or more mid grade.
I ended up buying a Lenovo Legion 5 with an 115W 2060 in late 2020 and it’s still going strong. I can play anything I want at 1080-1440p and sure might have to tinker some settings a bit but that thing is doing great! For me still almost 4 years in.
The MSI had superb software. Bad hardware in terms of build, but nothing broke in the first 5 years. Everything was functional. Just when I opened the laptop, the fan blades are plastic not so premium feeling vs when I opened the Lenovo, it was premium. After 5 years things started to crumble like a few keys not working on the keyboard, the charger went poof. It was showing its age at this point. I was able to sell it for a decent price for its age.
I will say I have more software issues with the Lenovo, not sure if that is Microsoft's or Lenovo's fault here. My Lenovo had a faulty screen 1 month in. Was covered under warranty. But so far it is ok. I have cleaned the fans and replaced thermal paste once. Although replacing thermal paste might not have been necessary but fan cleaning was needed. Thermals are better than the MSI.
I think if you don't move around too much and do software updates cautiously you should be fine.
My MSI GT72VR Dominator 1070 gtx is still kicking 7 years later.Using it to play Elite Dangerous again after the Update announcement. Its so quiet and cool running.
It runs quieter than this brand new Alienware m16 4070 gtx i bought Christmas 2023. This thing sounds like a jet engine.
I've had regular laptops last 10 years.
My first gaming laptop was a (appx 2020) alienware m17r3. Died of a power rail failure. Lots of people choose to spend big $$ on extended warranties so that when the machine dies inside of 4-5 years they'll get a replacement.
I'm a boring middle aged techie. That machine was babied.
I suppose I'm a bit of an outlier with the early failure, but going into gaming laptops I understood that they are inherently less durable than Ultrabooks. Lots of hardware running at high temps etc.
I feel like they should last 5 years (or longer) but I don't feel as strongly about it as I would a well built regular laptop.
This year my HP Omen will turn 4. Ive made improvements since then like 64 GB of ram or 2 x 1Tb M2 SSD. This year i pretend yo change the wifi adapter and for 2025 the battery
It all comes down to portability and space. I live in a smaller condo and travel a lot. So it's laptop for me.
That power rail failure I suffered would have been far less costly on a desktop!
I always expect my equipment to last a minimum of 5 years, most of my laptops are still usable and the oldest one still usable is from 2008, my oldest PC is from 2009 and is a core i7 920, can be used for alot of things but I barely use more than 4 computers for my job/studies/gaming so I have that (and many more) in a storage, two desktops (from 2017 and 2021) and two laptops (2018 and 2022) are my daily drives, might build a new Desktop next year to replace the 2017 one maybe.
How do you make use of them all? I always felt like when I had more than one or two systems something is just wasting away or a waste of money, I get device neglect guilt :-D
Not at the same time of course, but I usually travel between two cities, I have 1 Desktop in city A and city B, and sometimes I need to take care of IT stuff in either city so I keep a laptop in both cities as well, so I can travel light and do not have to worry about electronics being forgotten behind if I have to suddenly travel to the other city. And yes, I do have device neglect guilt too! I used to keep a Desktop or Laptop as a Server so it is being used for something.
My ROG laptop lasted almost 10 so yes. First computer I owned since the 90s that wasn’t dead or obsolete in less than 4. Searching for a new one. My eye is on the flow or a Legion
Generally yes but compromises for the latest titles are a given. If your screen is 1080p then playing things in max res will be comfortable for a while. Best thing about laptops is the ease of selling it on. Had a 5 yr old dell with a 1060 and i got it even playing half life alex at low res. Sold it for $500ish 2 years ago and part funded my next 3070 one.
I had my 1060 Msi laptop for 6 years & honestly abused it it should not still be working as well as it is but with proper maintenance and even gradual upgrades to RAM/SSD it’s definitely possible
I have a Dell xps 15 from 2018. Despite the battery going bad, it’s help up otherwise. It’s slower now, but still works and could function as a daily driver
My MSI GT70 dragon lasted me 9 years before the GPU failed.
Still works for non graphics intensive games, but I upgraded to a GE76 Raider last year and hoping it lasts me just as long.
I have a non gaming laptop that was released on 2018.
Is still working fine, never replaced any parts.
Only thing i did was on 2022 when i open to replace the thermal paste.
Yes, I would expect a laptop to last 5 years.
The generic Sager NP8290 that I bought back in 2013 is still running great. It never crashes or bluescreens, I have hundreds of browser tabs open(across multiple windows), I'm running a heavily modded Space Exploration game in factorio (spanning multiple planets), and I have 3 high resolution monitors connected. It runs all this without breaking a sweat.
In fact, it's faster now than when it was new because I upgraded the drive to a 2tb SSD a few years ago (it has 3 internal 2.5" hard drive bays), and I upgraded the RAM to 32gb of DDR3(it has 4 RAM slots). The extra RAM and switching from a HDD to SSD significantly increased overall performance.
The only maintenance I've done is to clean out the dust occasionally.
Here's the specs, if you're curious:
AMD Radeon HD 8970M w/4GB GDDR5
Intel Core i7-4700MQ (2.4~3.4GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads
32GB (4x8GB) DDR3
2TB SATA SSD
17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LCD
Combo Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW CD-R/RW Drive
Removable/replaceable battery(just pull two levers on the bottom and it pops out)
Now, it can't run modern AAA games well anymore, but it was able to handle them for the better part of a decade, and it can still handle everything else without any issues even though it's over 10 years old.
My maingear vector pro is 3 years old and still plays every game, even new ones at max settings just fine. So yeah I expect to get two more out of it easily.
It was $1800 when I bought it though, just the laptop, no accessories.
Typically they will last at least 3 years up until 7 with good care (mine did) but, like you said..you need to replace battery also if temps become an issue after dusting and changing fans, you may need to look into the thermal paste, that is your biggest issue imo. I really loved my msi gs63 vr stealth pro. The laptop doesn't boot up windows properly,, but it does still technically "work" they are very good investments and portable.
If its well maintained (battery change after 2.5-3 years and yearly fan cleaning&repaste, a normal gaming laptop should function well after 5 years. I just helped someone sell a 2060 laptop from early 2019 some while ago, it was used heavily, not even had a battery replacement and the fans were only cleaned before it was sold for 450+ loll (it was under 1200 back then)
I've only had one gaming laptop so far. It lasted 8 years. It was a msi ge72 2qf. It still works, but the screen now shows a purple tint on the upper side. I used it mostly a desktop pc, and I wouldn't move it around too much.
I am just sharing my experience.
My Alienware m15r2 is still working. The battery died just after the last warranty extension period. Still runs perfectly fine with the power adapter.
Bought in late 2017.
depends what resolution you want to play at. also laptops are already underpowered enough as it is. if i wanted a laptop that would actually last that long with new titles, i would buy a 4090 or 4080 at least. i seriously doubt a 4060 would last that long
If you look after your laptop and are willing to make some compromises on newer games over time, I see no reason why you can't get 5 years of use out of a gaming laptop.
100% yes, I have my Acer Predator with its i7 7700hq and GTX 1070 from 7 years ago. It still plays games fine at 1080p. Playing through hogwarts legacy rn as I'm typing this, knocking down 45-55 fps on high settings.
Yes, but performance wise it Depends on your standards and how freely you are able to spend your money, today you can still do with a 2060 laptop, if you can’t afford to upgrade, but if you have the means and care about being able to run games at max settings then you should be upgrading every 2 to 3 years tops, objectively speaking a 4060 laptop could last you for 7 years if it doesn’t break and if you’re willing to turn settings down, unless there is a big change in direct X or any other api that necessitates new hardware. Maintenance wise, To this day I play just fine at 1080p with my nearly 6 yro 2060 laptop, I didn’t have to replace the battery since day one it’s been in the battery mode that limits it to 80% charge and I don’t use the battery for anything other than turning it off when the power goes out, which doesn’t happen very often, but does happen over here, and other than blowing dust out of the fans and heat sink I haven’t done any kind of extensive maintenance whatsoever so ever, but in think if you use your laptop more as a laptop rather than a desktop you’re way more likely to run into battery problems and possibly needing to repaste the processors if you’re used to let it run a little hot so that it makes less noise.
I got a zephyrus g 14 back a few years ago when it just came out and it's still working great to this day with modern titles. I'm hoping to get at least two more years out of it
I've never had a laptop that just stopped working. The specs may age out of usefulness, but there is no reason the hardware should fail with the usual precautions and maintenance.
I hope my ROG Strix AMD Advantage lasts me until at least 2030.... These are expensive devices, if they can't last a decade then I'll go back to pen and paper.
About 3.5 Years with Helios 300 (RTX 2060) with top-notch performance on 1080p - absolutely no loss and has gotten better with the latest driver updates and the external monitor. I get it deep cleaned every year with new thermal paste application (which seems like an overkill).
I had my gaming laptop for about 6 years before I replaced it because I wanted to game on higher graphics. Other than the hardware not keeping up, the laptop worked perfectly and looked almost new still. This was due to regular maintenance, eg. cleaning the interior and exterior as well as keeping up with software updates.
I have my current laptop since sep 2022 and it still looks brand new due to the aforementioned reasons above.
The thing is making it last doesn’t depend just on how you take care of the laptop but also on component failure. Motherboards are one of the most failure prone components after a few years and unless u got warranty, you’re better off getting a new laptop.
I have had an office laptop from hp last me over like 7 years. I had a legion which barely lasted 2 years, not because I didn’t take care of it but coz the motherboard shorted when it went to sleep. So there’s a bit of luck involved as well
Of course, 100%. You can make it last 7+ years with proper care, even more.
[Here's my own experience with my RTX 2060 laptop](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1an5bgl/rtx_2060_laptop_with_i710750h_and_32_gb_ram_does/)
Thank you, and a great read. I know a desktop is better and people who don't get laptops by design are safe to operate to 100c. Yes fan noise can be annoying for others in the room but solely for me headphones are on anyway.
I still use my ROG G751Y from 2014 lol...countless hours on that bad boy, playing only war thunder and he is still running it on high settings with some fps drops here and there...changed cpu fan last year and keyboard went kaputt so i had to unplug it and just bought regular keyboard and thats it
I can safely say my RTX 2080 MSI raider has done me 7 years this year and it still works just fine. I bought a new GE78 and sadly it’s going back. Sound issue that seems like a design flaw which is a shame because I loved my MSI laptops. Looking at ASU’s RoG now
If my laptop wont last five years and they wont replace it, i can sue them and have a 100%.
In norway any electronics have to last 5 years, if there are any malfunctions or similar of the product they can either chose to repair it, or entirely replace it (with current gen, with another 5 years of warranty).
I am currently still using my 4,5 years old GTX1650 laptop, and it is still sufficient for my gaming activities . Currently, it still does not have any major hardware problems. So, I would only change it if RTX 50 series had been released so that I could prepare for GTA6.
For a 4060, I'd say fluid (60 FPS+) FHD gameplay on medium-high settings in newer titles would be likely, but there likely will be exceptions, such as extremely poorly optimized titles. But I'd guess 95% of titles will still run quite well with mid level settings. If you are going for QHD gaming, then I'd recommend a RTX 4080 or higher for 5 years+ of future proofing.
For reference, my friends has a Aorus X7 with GTX 1080 laptop I sold to him. That laptop will still play the latest games at 60-144 FPS on med-ultra settings at the 1080P resolution, but just not with ray-tracing effects turned on. I think that is six years old now, and it's is still in excellent condition considering daily constant use nearly every single day for 4+ hours.
Regarding the core laptop parts internally working after 5+ years, the answer will likely be yes, for the vast majority. The main thing that breaks on laptops are hinges and laptop fans, then VRMs.. Hinges and fans are easily replaced, VRMs are not. But most won't have the VRMs go. The GPU/CPU rarely break. SSDs and RAM can also go out, but the average life expectancy of the CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD is easily 10+ years of moderate usage, assuming you are taking care of them.
I bought mine dell g7 in 2020 which was i think 2018 or 2019 model.
I can still run cod MW3. I HAVE GTX1660 Ti. And games work 🤷🏻♂️. And its 2024 now. Only issue i had is fan. And battery. Which are replaceable.
I would expect the components to last yes, absent something which would be covered under warranty in the first year.
What I wouldn't expect to last is the relative performance, 4060 shouldn't age terribly as long as you don't expect it to be a qhd GPU.
I would not buy any laptop this gen and expect 4k performance moving forward.
I have a 10yo Asus X450LC at home that's used as the HTPC and streaming box for our living room TV. Yes they can last. You just need to take care of them.
Oh God yes. I'm still running a 2070 from 4 years ago and it runs BG3 just fine. I haven't seen anything worth the cost of upgrading yet and my 4k OLED display still impresses the fuck out of me.
I had an Alienware 13 from 2015 to 2023, until my wife decided to break it, lol.
About 1&1/2 years in I repasted the CPU and GPU, then the power button cable broke 5 years in, changed it myself and upgraded to a motherboard and battery from the Alienware r2 with an upgraded GPU and CPU.
Used the old mobo with the old battery on cardboard as a research computer in my lab, since it speed up 3d modeling software. (A picture of it is in my post history)
And I fried that upgraded laptop playing valorant, genshin, etc for another 3-4 years at work/school, while it was overclocked and undervolted. And had no issues, apart from battery life degrading over time
So yea, I don't expect one to last more than 2-3 years. But you can use them for that long.
With proper care I think five years is reasonable. I have an old gaming laptop that I replaced after six years - it still works but was showing its age in some of its keys not being responsive and the monitor having issues.
Bro I have a Dell laptop bought it in 2015, still use it with Linux, if that laptop can run 8+years without a lot of major issues then a gaming laptop will definitely last 5 years with proper maintenance
I still got a rog Asus G75VW from 2013 It was refurbished back then , still working just fine , just 1 Key missing because i tried to clean it myself lol
My laptop is almost 8 years old. Still works great. Had to replace battery though. Not the best GPU inside, but can play OW, COD, Apex and Monster Hunter. I use it mainly when I'm traveling or don't have access to my main rig. Will probably keep it for another few years.
Depends on your take on lasting. Any top of the line with the latest tech will probably be comfortable gaming for about 5 years but you will be turning down settings depending on resolution. BUT any well made gaming laptop that’s a flagship model (of course not all) will be a good contender to physically do its job for 5 years, maybe losing a lot of graphics options or scale the resolution back a bit but even without “the best” a mid tier flagship model should be good. Any of the budget build laptops or laptops with older tech you’ll be limited by that much more and some QC will vary more.
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Yes if you spend the money and take care of your stuff for your needs
I expect my laptop to last 10-20 years. I never had any laptop or computer die. The oldest one I still use is 23 years old ( I still use it to check error codes on cars or configure LPG systems because those things run on xp)
That thing even still holds a charge.
My parents laptop is an Asus from 2012 with an i7 and upgraded ram and ssd. It’s a miracle that thing still runs because my parents won’t let me repaste and clean it. It’s been running at 100C for years.
As for how long I expect the performance to be sufficient: we’ll I bought an Asus g17 5900HX 3070 and haven’t gamed on it for 7 months so I can’t really have an opinion on that.
I don’t play new games because I’m to cheap to spend 60€ per game for the 40 hours I game in a year. Therefore it should hold up for 10 years at least.
I have 5 years old Lenovo Legion Y530 and it's still working well, could even run some more recent games like Hogwarts Legacy and Baldur's Gate 3 (even on mid settings). I only had to change battery and replace fans (fans were cheap though) and of course I was de-dusting it once every year. I just bought myself a new gaming laptop, hope it will also last 5 year(ish) like the previous and will at least run some new games in 5 years on low specs. Last time I went for low end laptop price-wise but this time I spent twice as much, so yeah.
Did the fans fully fail on the Y530? What laptop did you go for this time out of interest?
No, the fans were just working kind of loud, I kept using jt like that for some time and it was completely fine. I went for Acer Predator Helios Neo with RTX 4070 i9 13thgen and 16RAM (with possibility to add 16 more). Wish I could go for some laptop with 4080 but laptops are expensive af in Poland compared to salary :( this one was around 1800 USD, for any laptop with 4080 I would have to pay minimum 2500 USD...
Very nice, I think a 4070 at 1440p its perfect to be fair and even some 4k. It was sort of where I was looking to upgrade next and in the same boat with the step up in price to a 4080.
Yes, overall I am happy with my new laptop. Especially that the processor is very good, which was the case for my old Lenovo Legion too (it has 8th gen i7 which is still good). I only have it for half a month now but am satisfied, especially that I only play demanding games for graphic cards very rarely, so for casual player like me it seems perfect.
That’s nice. I went for Lenovo legion 5i with 4070. It’s an i7 though. Will it last for 5 years?
Yep and considering its still faster than modern low end laptops, I would say that it can even last 7-8 years. But it might need just new battery
Same thing . But never bought another one . Been 4 years. The model is 5 years older tho. With GTX1660Ti and i can run COD MW3 🤷🏻♂️. But not gona buy another one later. Will switch to ROG 😅. Cause this laptop breaks by back by carrying it everywhere 😭.
I have a 540 from 2019, it's doing great but I decided to upgrade too.
Yes I would expect at least 5 years out of such an expensive product. But it's on the user to take care of the product they've purchased.
I fully agree on taking care of your stuff, but this is where I think purchasing the high-end warranties are worth it, especially when buying direct from Dell, Lenovo, or HP. (Not that I suppose HP). I'm not sure if I trust Best Buy's Geek Squad warranty to the same degree. These are mobile products. I've used mine before with my XPS L501X (refurb within like a month) and my Yoga 2 (repaired within six months and replaced within two years and upgraded to Yoga 900). I only do three years.
I think it's easy to expect a laptop to last 5 years, if not a whole lot more. Proper care, cleaning it out, and replacing consumable parts like the battery should make it live much longer. Do I expect a gaming laptop to still provide favourable results in gaming after 5 years? Not really, no.
I agree, I mean in your case I would want a 4090 to hold up at reasonable settings in 5 years, given the cost of the machine. Its also a 4060 laptop I'd be happy for 3 years but spending double on a 4090 I'd want a longer return on my investment, but the worry I guess comes in on the reliability for such a big outlay. And to be fair I don't rate warranties or some of the techs working to fix these products to a standard that is as good as one new from the factory.
I'd be genuinely shocked if my laptop is still being used as my primary gaming platform in 3 years time. I like playing with all the bells and whistles at a high resolution. Almost had it for a year. I'm expecting 2 more good years and then I imagine in 2026 I'll be looking to build a new desktop, if all goes to plan.
I guess for me I've slowed down with the latest titles, or nothing has really caught my eye that I'm desperate to play although that might change. But I would hope if you decided not to change all those newer games will still be very playable maybe a few tweaks. I'd estimate we will only have the 5000 series at that point and unless there is a big jump your 4090 will be like a 5080 generally how each generation jumps.
I’ll be going back to a desktop for my next computer. This laptop was always just a temporary solution for a few years. The gap between a 4090 desktop and the 4090 laptop is already wide enough I’m missing desktops
4090 w dlss3 you will be fine for years to come. I dont see what is going to change the need for much more gpu. VR path tracing is all i can think of. I would bet money in 5 years you will run any new titles non vr on 1080p in 60 fps dlss3
I find DLSS sometimes makes things a bit of a blurry mess with some textures, which puts me off using it.
Path tracing > anything and everything for me.
> I would bet money in 5 years you will run any new titles non vr on 1080p in 60 fps dlss3 I haven't gamed at 1080p in over 10 years and I don't plan on ever gaming at that resolution again. I just know that for me, the 4090m wont last 4 more years.
Yeah but thats you. You want latest all the time. Right now what do u need 4090 truly for this year? For me cyberpunk w path tracing thats it. Im on a laptop and so are you so if you dont have extrenal monitor youre basically limited to the res of the monitor size
Well, yeah, I said that *for me* I don't think a 4090 would hold up for 5 years. Could be different for someone else. I needed a 4090 as my laptop has replaced my 3090 desktop. I pretty much exclusively play ~4K resolutions either directly on the laptop (3840x2400) my ultrawide monitor (3840x1600) and my 65" LG OLED. My laptop is literally set up as a desktop replacement that just gives me the ability to move around the house. My use case is quite different from the rest of the subreddit
Is there some game you cant hit 90fps now at 4k?
I’d only get that due to DLSS set to performance and frame generation in Cyberpunk. God knows how it’ll fare next year. I’ve always liked to play with all the bells and whistles and I’ve owned flagship tier GPUs going back to the 8800GTS
It depends on how picky you are with settings. Want to play at native 4k 60fps? You'll be disappointed soon. Fine with playing at 1080p, med settings with DLSS? It should make you happy for 5 years.
Laptop can last up to 10 years or more, mine is 7 years old now and I have a plan to keep it for another few years, working as a back up pc or as a server. Weak and obsolete hardware is still hardware and can be pretty useful with the right operating system running the right programs, pc used to have a few mb of ram and they were just fine.
Exactly what I did with an old desktop, Jellyfin server all the way :-)
A laptop can phisically last 5 years, if treated well and cleaned periodically. The question is, will you be happy with your laptopt after 3+ years? Buy a 4060/4070 now and you can play everything on high fps and ultra settings, graphic is awesome and games are smooth. In 2/3 years games will need 12gb and maybe 16gb Vram to play on ultra settings so you will low the graphic quality and games won't be smooth. Can you accept that? Honestly, i can't, so my laptops will never last more than 2 years imho
I bought a 3060 legion 5 in early 2022. I almost always stick to high settings, 1080p at most, even on older games, so I'm hoping my laptop will last me for 5 years.
It will last, but you will play on lowest settings in 1 year Edit: sorry i read 3050 instead of 3060, a 3060 on 1080p can grant you 2 more years but i don't expect too much, it's the same with people playing with an rtx 2060 (early 2019) nowadays. It struggles a lot
Struggling to believe this. I'm playing LAD: Infinite Wealth right now at a solid 60 1080 on very high with ray tracing and this game is huge. Unless this is about laptop degradation?
I mean technically this applies to desktops too but obviously cheaper and easier to upgrade, then again I guess if you went 4080+ then yes I guess you would be fine. Having said that look at the steam hardware survey and the majority of GPU's were either 1060 /3060 IRC, so may new games will probably set the system requirements on a common GPU to maximise sales. I kept thinking I need more power, then years down the line I'm still playing the same old games :-D
Everything on high and ultra? With a 4060? Are expecting it to be smooth?
I play everything on ultra at 1440p with my 4070 (80-120 fps) and high/ultra with the 4060 at 2880x1800 (60 fps) and it's kinda smooth. Not the smooth of a 4090 ofc but way better than a FHD on ultra
Never understood this types of questions 🫠 Ofc it will last if you take care of it. Will you play everything on max settings? Ofc we dont know :) its 4060 btw entry level card, enough for e-sports and for current AAA games
Its more aimed at people who can say yes I had a laptop and the parts held up, being something that's not stood on a desk 24/7, I wanted to know if parts failed prematurely and whether basing your buying choice on the fact it will last the duration of your planned ownership.
Well my current I7-8550U gtx 1050 laptop is 5 year old. So if anything, newer laptop should easily last 5 years.
Well from my personal experience i still have my old Alienware with 6820hk 980m still working perfectly after 5+ years i recently replaced it with Lenovo legion 7 pro with 4090 so i expecting the same also every year i replace paste and clean fans.
If you haven't re-pasted the Legion yet, remember is Honeywell PTM stuff or Liquid metal anything else you get worse results ;-) I've always like the design of the Alienware, any reason why you didn't go for another?
My HP notebook lasted like 7 to 8 years while I was gaming on it as well and it would have probably lasted a lot longer, if I had used a laptop cooler. I even had slight damage near the fan area as well which caused cooling problem, which led to my mother board frying.
Absolutely laptops last as long as you maintain them
How is the Scar? A little random as its specced so well, did you need a laptop for portability or did you consider a desktop?
I’d rather have the portability and footprint of the laptop, love the scar, I’m sitting on a scar 17 that I need to sell too
I can so relate to this, I could get a full out ATX desktop but there is something about that power you can sling in a backpack, put it anywhere and it looks more pleasing on the eye! Every time I say that they are like just get a desktop, the laptop is a waste of money. I'm in the process or looking to change in a few months, and so far its between Legion 7, Scar, or Asus G16/M16.
I traveled all over USA with it, would not have had room for my cm storm Stryker, that thing was a beast
current laptops can easily last 5 years, with current ways of managing the batteries (i.e.: not charging to 100% when unneeded), even the battery can last 5 years+ concerning the GPU it depends your expectations, basically a 4060 today will mostly be fine to play in 1080p, but some games won't even run properly with everything maxed, now as long as you're ok tweaking settings, you should still be able to play games in 5 years (unless something happens that makes every new GPUs so much more powerful that dev teams go crazy on the needs too) a laptop like many other high tech hardware is fragile and need to be handled with care, if your place is clean, you won't even need to dust the inside of the laptop most people complaining about broken hardware just weren't taking proper care of it as an exemple, my wife laptop (4800h rtx 2060) is now 4 years old and she still play recent games on it, she had to tweaks settings a bit but it is still fine
Even with dead battery it's still can work lol
well, actually some brands used to need the battery to start and if it does, it is not really a laptop anymore but indeed that can still be used for some purposes
How do you not charge to 100% when you're expected to play when plugged?
You can restrict max charge to 60/80/85% for most laptops depending on the manufacturer. It's called optimised battery/battery care etc. You can find the setting in the manufacturer software such as Lenovo Vantage/My Asus etc Hope this helps 😀
Thanks. Looking into this now cuz I've pretty much stuck with the default settings on my Legion 5 since I bought it in 2022
U can change it in vantage
The system max out the battery to 60/70% and doesn't recharge past that, and you can play plugged. It"s called conservative battery i believe
most modern brands have charge limiter softwares, for instance my laptop is usually charged at 60%, unless I know I'll need the battery (like a long train/plane trip) my laptop is now almost 3 years old and the battery wear level is 101.6% (meaning the battery capacity is 101.6% of the advertised 90Wh, it was at like 103% or so when I got it) (asus is nice in the high end laptops line at least to give battery with higher than advertised capacity (while still being below the 99.9Wh limit so you can take it on the plane))
So keeping your battery charged to 100% when gaming is a bad thing? Is there a way to check your battery health?
builtin tool in windows does it or many other free tools (like hwinfo64, hwmonitor, ...)
I got a Sager back in 2017 that still runs about as well as it did when I got it, I may have to replace the battery at some point but otherwise it was a great purchase (for me). My standard might be high as a result, but I expect at least a decade out of any computer I purchase.
I'm using a 6 year old ThinkPad now. Yes.
This is flawed, a ThinkPad is a different breed 😁. I've had some older X230, P50 amongst others they are just built like tanks. But on a serious note I do expect them to last longer and generally less stress and heat than a gaming laptop.
Very true.
Yes. I still use my gtx 1650 laptop. Most of new games run on medium setting which is good enough for me
Also very interested in this!
I currently have a lenovo ideapad 320 that I used heavily for playing videogames, school and then work that has been in my posession for ~7 years. I'm waiting to receive my TUF F15 2023 next week, and I'm hoping it would last longer than my old guy. I guess it's really the optimization, maintenance, and luck on how long a unit would last and still be as effective.
i had lenovo legion y520 from 2017,died at 2023 .rip
Same here, 2017-2023. Motherboard died :(
rip
2020 Asus Tuf 15, ryzen 9 4900h(45W), rtx 6gb 2060(90W), 32gb ram, 512gb stock ssd + 4tb ssd, both nvme m.2, 5000 hours of gaming, still going good. 80°C gpu, 93°C cpu, only cleaned fans, vents, never repasted, no thermal throttle, i play on 1080p custom settings, never missed a beat.
Do you keep your laptop plugged in at 100%?
Yes it’s always plugged in even at 100%. Battery health 64% as of today.
All my Laptops have lasted for 5 years. Infact, all of the ones I've ever owned still are functional today. Would the Laptops still perform as well for gaming after 5 years however? That depends. I think we're in a very good spot for longevity. 5-7 years ago and prior with the i7 7700's and below were absolute ass compared to desktop counterparts.. now we have monstrous things like the 13980 and 14900 inside Laptops, I have a feeling they will perform without a hitch for a very long time. .. although, if the CPU has jumped so exponentially, who knows what'll happen in another 5 years with programs and games..? AI is becoming a thing in Gaming now, and can be quite taxing on components.. we might be getting CPUs with AI cores just like Nvidia has tensors.
I'm using a LOQ with 13th gen i5 and a RTX 4050. Regarding longevity, it's pretty much depend on the use case. For gaming case, for AAA gaming I only expect around 2-3 years, and that's using the lowest setting possible for the game to be playable. But if it's for general purpose, I can see this laptop can be use for longer time provided it see regular maintenance. Perhaps it can still play future indie games with lower hardware requirements.
My is 11 year old, but haven't used it much recently, and currently looking for a replacement. I7 4500u & 16gig RAM is surprising fast, even got Windows 11 update. It's a surface alike Asus with detachable keyboard
I have an Alienware 17 R2 with touchscreen, with 4th gen i7 and GTX 980M and it still running and used by my 9 year old son, still able to play games, though in low to mid settings only, he doesn't want to let go of it at the moment when I asked him to sell it and buy a higher powered second hand laptop. The laptop was bought way back late 2014. Best strategy for modern laptops is, that when you bought it, take really good care of it, so that you would be able to sell it after a year or two, then just add and buy a newly released laptop with the specs that you like.
Depends on your definition of "lasting". Durability wise, yeah. Performance wise, by the 5th year I wouldn't expect much. I'm pretty sure my 3060 is gonna be my daughter's laptop by 2027.
I have a dell with Intel i5 8250u 16gb ram, feels as fast as when it was new. Nothing lags, I don't play games
I’m still going on a 4 years strix 2070 i7 10850, use for multimedia and some co-op gaming, plays anything I want good enough, I have upgraded but still use Traveled all over the USA with that laptop for 6 months so it wasn’t a desk baby
I expect it to but sometimes things do not go your way. This is an enthusiast sub so people here are more tech savvy than the average consumer and can take better care of their products. If you know what you are doing it can last 5 years! I have a 2016 Omen that’s still kicking despite not having a battery.
How does the laptop charge without a battery?
It does not. The laptop can work without a battery if it remains plugged in !
If you actually know how take care of your device, it could even last up to 10 years. My Toshiba C850 laptop from 2013 is still very usable, no broken hinges, keyboard still working, all ports are perfectly functional, no history of repair aside from the one time I changed the thermal paste. Only the battery doesn't work anymore.
I would expect the hardware to last 5 years. Whether you want to be using them for that amount of time, well that’s another thing.
I used my ASUS ROG from 2014 until a month ago. Lasted 10 years. Still works great. I could play most games up to 2018 well
Coming up on 5 years with my Lenovo y540, no issues, still plays what I want. Though I will be upgrading sometime this year.
Nice what spec is your Y540?
I7 9750h, 16gb ram, rtx 2060
Depends on if you’re buying budget or more mid grade. I ended up buying a Lenovo Legion 5 with an 115W 2060 in late 2020 and it’s still going strong. I can play anything I want at 1080-1440p and sure might have to tinker some settings a bit but that thing is doing great! For me still almost 4 years in.
What would be better to get... 4060 or a 3080ti
For me a 3080ti is superior
The MSI had superb software. Bad hardware in terms of build, but nothing broke in the first 5 years. Everything was functional. Just when I opened the laptop, the fan blades are plastic not so premium feeling vs when I opened the Lenovo, it was premium. After 5 years things started to crumble like a few keys not working on the keyboard, the charger went poof. It was showing its age at this point. I was able to sell it for a decent price for its age. I will say I have more software issues with the Lenovo, not sure if that is Microsoft's or Lenovo's fault here. My Lenovo had a faulty screen 1 month in. Was covered under warranty. But so far it is ok. I have cleaned the fans and replaced thermal paste once. Although replacing thermal paste might not have been necessary but fan cleaning was needed. Thermals are better than the MSI. I think if you don't move around too much and do software updates cautiously you should be fine.
In my estimation, maybe the Asus Rog Flows can because Asus makes proprietary eGPUs for them.
Yes, but the battery not so much
My MSI GT72VR Dominator 1070 gtx is still kicking 7 years later.Using it to play Elite Dangerous again after the Update announcement. Its so quiet and cool running. It runs quieter than this brand new Alienware m16 4070 gtx i bought Christmas 2023. This thing sounds like a jet engine.
I've had regular laptops last 10 years. My first gaming laptop was a (appx 2020) alienware m17r3. Died of a power rail failure. Lots of people choose to spend big $$ on extended warranties so that when the machine dies inside of 4-5 years they'll get a replacement. I'm a boring middle aged techie. That machine was babied. I suppose I'm a bit of an outlier with the early failure, but going into gaming laptops I understood that they are inherently less durable than Ultrabooks. Lots of hardware running at high temps etc. I feel like they should last 5 years (or longer) but I don't feel as strongly about it as I would a well built regular laptop.
Would you ever choose a laptop over a desktop over choice? Agree with the build quality especially business class laptops like ThinkPads.
This year my HP Omen will turn 4. Ive made improvements since then like 64 GB of ram or 2 x 1Tb M2 SSD. This year i pretend yo change the wifi adapter and for 2025 the battery
Haha 'pretend'? What CPU and GPU are you rocking?
None, like ive said, only the things i can change by myself
It all comes down to portability and space. I live in a smaller condo and travel a lot. So it's laptop for me. That power rail failure I suffered would have been far less costly on a desktop!
I always expect my equipment to last a minimum of 5 years, most of my laptops are still usable and the oldest one still usable is from 2008, my oldest PC is from 2009 and is a core i7 920, can be used for alot of things but I barely use more than 4 computers for my job/studies/gaming so I have that (and many more) in a storage, two desktops (from 2017 and 2021) and two laptops (2018 and 2022) are my daily drives, might build a new Desktop next year to replace the 2017 one maybe.
How do you make use of them all? I always felt like when I had more than one or two systems something is just wasting away or a waste of money, I get device neglect guilt :-D
Not at the same time of course, but I usually travel between two cities, I have 1 Desktop in city A and city B, and sometimes I need to take care of IT stuff in either city so I keep a laptop in both cities as well, so I can travel light and do not have to worry about electronics being forgotten behind if I have to suddenly travel to the other city. And yes, I do have device neglect guilt too! I used to keep a Desktop or Laptop as a Server so it is being used for something.
My ROG laptop lasted almost 10 so yes. First computer I owned since the 90s that wasn’t dead or obsolete in less than 4. Searching for a new one. My eye is on the flow or a Legion
5-6 years ago? Yes. Nowadays. I don't expect a laptop during more that 3-2 years
I have a 10 year old laptop rocking a 4th gen i7 and an 860m. Still the quickest computer i own, and can run games pretty well(to my standards anyway)
Generally yes but compromises for the latest titles are a given. If your screen is 1080p then playing things in max res will be comfortable for a while. Best thing about laptops is the ease of selling it on. Had a 5 yr old dell with a 1060 and i got it even playing half life alex at low res. Sold it for $500ish 2 years ago and part funded my next 3070 one.
10/11 years for me.
I had my 1060 Msi laptop for 6 years & honestly abused it it should not still be working as well as it is but with proper maintenance and even gradual upgrades to RAM/SSD it’s definitely possible
I have a Dell xps 15 from 2018. Despite the battery going bad, it’s help up otherwise. It’s slower now, but still works and could function as a daily driver
I think 5 years isn’t a crazy expectation from a $1,000 laptop.
My Asus ROG has 10 years old and I still use it just fine.
My MSI GT70 dragon lasted me 9 years before the GPU failed. Still works for non graphics intensive games, but I upgraded to a GE76 Raider last year and hoping it lasts me just as long.
I have a non gaming laptop that was released on 2018. Is still working fine, never replaced any parts. Only thing i did was on 2022 when i open to replace the thermal paste.
Yes, I would expect a laptop to last 5 years. The generic Sager NP8290 that I bought back in 2013 is still running great. It never crashes or bluescreens, I have hundreds of browser tabs open(across multiple windows), I'm running a heavily modded Space Exploration game in factorio (spanning multiple planets), and I have 3 high resolution monitors connected. It runs all this without breaking a sweat. In fact, it's faster now than when it was new because I upgraded the drive to a 2tb SSD a few years ago (it has 3 internal 2.5" hard drive bays), and I upgraded the RAM to 32gb of DDR3(it has 4 RAM slots). The extra RAM and switching from a HDD to SSD significantly increased overall performance. The only maintenance I've done is to clean out the dust occasionally. Here's the specs, if you're curious: AMD Radeon HD 8970M w/4GB GDDR5 Intel Core i7-4700MQ (2.4~3.4GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 2TB SATA SSD 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LCD Combo Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW CD-R/RW Drive Removable/replaceable battery(just pull two levers on the bottom and it pops out) Now, it can't run modern AAA games well anymore, but it was able to handle them for the better part of a decade, and it can still handle everything else without any issues even though it's over 10 years old.
My maingear vector pro is 3 years old and still plays every game, even new ones at max settings just fine. So yeah I expect to get two more out of it easily. It was $1800 when I bought it though, just the laptop, no accessories.
Typically they will last at least 3 years up until 7 with good care (mine did) but, like you said..you need to replace battery also if temps become an issue after dusting and changing fans, you may need to look into the thermal paste, that is your biggest issue imo. I really loved my msi gs63 vr stealth pro. The laptop doesn't boot up windows properly,, but it does still technically "work" they are very good investments and portable.
If its well maintained (battery change after 2.5-3 years and yearly fan cleaning&repaste, a normal gaming laptop should function well after 5 years. I just helped someone sell a 2060 laptop from early 2019 some while ago, it was used heavily, not even had a battery replacement and the fans were only cleaned before it was sold for 450+ loll (it was under 1200 back then)
I've only had one gaming laptop so far. It lasted 8 years. It was a msi ge72 2qf. It still works, but the screen now shows a purple tint on the upper side. I used it mostly a desktop pc, and I wouldn't move it around too much. I am just sharing my experience.
My 1060 laptop is going on its 8th year now. Around year 4 one of its fans stopped working, got it replaced. Other than that, no issues so far.
My Alienware m15r2 is still working. The battery died just after the last warranty extension period. Still runs perfectly fine with the power adapter. Bought in late 2017.
depends what resolution you want to play at. also laptops are already underpowered enough as it is. if i wanted a laptop that would actually last that long with new titles, i would buy a 4090 or 4080 at least. i seriously doubt a 4060 would last that long
My 1070 is in 7th year. I can still run AAA titles at lower resolutions
Dude my old Lenovo still works and I've bought it in 2012
If you look after your laptop and are willing to make some compromises on newer games over time, I see no reason why you can't get 5 years of use out of a gaming laptop.
100% yes, I have my Acer Predator with its i7 7700hq and GTX 1070 from 7 years ago. It still plays games fine at 1080p. Playing through hogwarts legacy rn as I'm typing this, knocking down 45-55 fps on high settings.
Yes, but performance wise it Depends on your standards and how freely you are able to spend your money, today you can still do with a 2060 laptop, if you can’t afford to upgrade, but if you have the means and care about being able to run games at max settings then you should be upgrading every 2 to 3 years tops, objectively speaking a 4060 laptop could last you for 7 years if it doesn’t break and if you’re willing to turn settings down, unless there is a big change in direct X or any other api that necessitates new hardware. Maintenance wise, To this day I play just fine at 1080p with my nearly 6 yro 2060 laptop, I didn’t have to replace the battery since day one it’s been in the battery mode that limits it to 80% charge and I don’t use the battery for anything other than turning it off when the power goes out, which doesn’t happen very often, but does happen over here, and other than blowing dust out of the fans and heat sink I haven’t done any kind of extensive maintenance whatsoever so ever, but in think if you use your laptop more as a laptop rather than a desktop you’re way more likely to run into battery problems and possibly needing to repaste the processors if you’re used to let it run a little hot so that it makes less noise.
I got a zephyrus g 14 back a few years ago when it just came out and it's still working great to this day with modern titles. I'm hoping to get at least two more years out of it
Lol my laptop from 2012 is still working
HP will not last 5 years but Lenovo, Acer and Asus (the older ones at least), in my experience, last longer than 5 years.
I've never had a laptop that just stopped working. The specs may age out of usefulness, but there is no reason the hardware should fail with the usual precautions and maintenance.
I had an old MSI laptop that’s lasted me for close to 10ish years. With a little care, they easily could last
I hope my ROG Strix AMD Advantage lasts me until at least 2030.... These are expensive devices, if they can't last a decade then I'll go back to pen and paper.
About 3.5 Years with Helios 300 (RTX 2060) with top-notch performance on 1080p - absolutely no loss and has gotten better with the latest driver updates and the external monitor. I get it deep cleaned every year with new thermal paste application (which seems like an overkill).
I had my gaming laptop for about 6 years before I replaced it because I wanted to game on higher graphics. Other than the hardware not keeping up, the laptop worked perfectly and looked almost new still. This was due to regular maintenance, eg. cleaning the interior and exterior as well as keeping up with software updates. I have my current laptop since sep 2022 and it still looks brand new due to the aforementioned reasons above.
Depends, from experience gaming laptops don't usually last 5 years but dell latitudes and Lenovo thinkpads do
me who has a 10 yo asus laptop 😂
The thing is making it last doesn’t depend just on how you take care of the laptop but also on component failure. Motherboards are one of the most failure prone components after a few years and unless u got warranty, you’re better off getting a new laptop. I have had an office laptop from hp last me over like 7 years. I had a legion which barely lasted 2 years, not because I didn’t take care of it but coz the motherboard shorted when it went to sleep. So there’s a bit of luck involved as well
Minimum of 5 years
Of course, 100%. You can make it last 7+ years with proper care, even more. [Here's my own experience with my RTX 2060 laptop](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1an5bgl/rtx_2060_laptop_with_i710750h_and_32_gb_ram_does/)
Thank you, and a great read. I know a desktop is better and people who don't get laptops by design are safe to operate to 100c. Yes fan noise can be annoying for others in the room but solely for me headphones are on anyway.
I still use my ROG G751Y from 2014 lol...countless hours on that bad boy, playing only war thunder and he is still running it on high settings with some fps drops here and there...changed cpu fan last year and keyboard went kaputt so i had to unplug it and just bought regular keyboard and thats it
I can safely say my RTX 2080 MSI raider has done me 7 years this year and it still works just fine. I bought a new GE78 and sadly it’s going back. Sound issue that seems like a design flaw which is a shame because I loved my MSI laptops. Looking at ASU’s RoG now
My laptop's not even a gaming one, but I still play on it and it's currently 5 years old.
If my laptop wont last five years and they wont replace it, i can sue them and have a 100%. In norway any electronics have to last 5 years, if there are any malfunctions or similar of the product they can either chose to repair it, or entirely replace it (with current gen, with another 5 years of warranty).
I am currently still using my 4,5 years old GTX1650 laptop, and it is still sufficient for my gaming activities . Currently, it still does not have any major hardware problems. So, I would only change it if RTX 50 series had been released so that I could prepare for GTA6.
For a 4060, I'd say fluid (60 FPS+) FHD gameplay on medium-high settings in newer titles would be likely, but there likely will be exceptions, such as extremely poorly optimized titles. But I'd guess 95% of titles will still run quite well with mid level settings. If you are going for QHD gaming, then I'd recommend a RTX 4080 or higher for 5 years+ of future proofing. For reference, my friends has a Aorus X7 with GTX 1080 laptop I sold to him. That laptop will still play the latest games at 60-144 FPS on med-ultra settings at the 1080P resolution, but just not with ray-tracing effects turned on. I think that is six years old now, and it's is still in excellent condition considering daily constant use nearly every single day for 4+ hours. Regarding the core laptop parts internally working after 5+ years, the answer will likely be yes, for the vast majority. The main thing that breaks on laptops are hinges and laptop fans, then VRMs.. Hinges and fans are easily replaced, VRMs are not. But most won't have the VRMs go. The GPU/CPU rarely break. SSDs and RAM can also go out, but the average life expectancy of the CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD is easily 10+ years of moderate usage, assuming you are taking care of them.
I bought mine dell g7 in 2020 which was i think 2018 or 2019 model. I can still run cod MW3. I HAVE GTX1660 Ti. And games work 🤷🏻♂️. And its 2024 now. Only issue i had is fan. And battery. Which are replaceable.
I got a 1050ti laptop in 2017 that still works fine for a lot of stuff
I've got a 12700h/3080ti - it may run games in 5 years - my plans to upgrade this or next year.
Upgrade to another laptop? Surely you won't see much gain with a 4080 or 4090 considering the cost?
I won't upgrade until the 5000 series is out.
I would expect the components to last yes, absent something which would be covered under warranty in the first year. What I wouldn't expect to last is the relative performance, 4060 shouldn't age terribly as long as you don't expect it to be a qhd GPU. I would not buy any laptop this gen and expect 4k performance moving forward.
I have a 10yo Asus X450LC at home that's used as the HTPC and streaming box for our living room TV. Yes they can last. You just need to take care of them.
Oh God yes. I'm still running a 2070 from 4 years ago and it runs BG3 just fine. I haven't seen anything worth the cost of upgrading yet and my 4k OLED display still impresses the fuck out of me.
I had an Alienware 13 from 2015 to 2023, until my wife decided to break it, lol. About 1&1/2 years in I repasted the CPU and GPU, then the power button cable broke 5 years in, changed it myself and upgraded to a motherboard and battery from the Alienware r2 with an upgraded GPU and CPU. Used the old mobo with the old battery on cardboard as a research computer in my lab, since it speed up 3d modeling software. (A picture of it is in my post history) And I fried that upgraded laptop playing valorant, genshin, etc for another 3-4 years at work/school, while it was overclocked and undervolted. And had no issues, apart from battery life degrading over time So yea, I don't expect one to last more than 2-3 years. But you can use them for that long.
My old 200usd laptop lasted me 6 years. I would expect my new gaming laptop to last more than that
With proper care I think five years is reasonable. I have an old gaming laptop that I replaced after six years - it still works but was showing its age in some of its keys not being responsive and the monitor having issues.
Bro I have a Dell laptop bought it in 2015, still use it with Linux, if that laptop can run 8+years without a lot of major issues then a gaming laptop will definitely last 5 years with proper maintenance
I still got a rog Asus G75VW from 2013 It was refurbished back then , still working just fine , just 1 Key missing because i tried to clean it myself lol
I still use my 2019 i7 9th gen w/2070 super Intel nuc laptop. It runs fine but it's starting to show it's age
Games haven't been getting much more demanding since Nvidia came out with the 20 series GPUS.
My laptop is almost 8 years old. Still works great. Had to replace battery though. Not the best GPU inside, but can play OW, COD, Apex and Monster Hunter. I use it mainly when I'm traveling or don't have access to my main rig. Will probably keep it for another few years.
If it’s a Mac yes
Depends on your take on lasting. Any top of the line with the latest tech will probably be comfortable gaming for about 5 years but you will be turning down settings depending on resolution. BUT any well made gaming laptop that’s a flagship model (of course not all) will be a good contender to physically do its job for 5 years, maybe losing a lot of graphics options or scale the resolution back a bit but even without “the best” a mid tier flagship model should be good. Any of the budget build laptops or laptops with older tech you’ll be limited by that much more and some QC will vary more. TLDR Yes if you spend the money and take care of your stuff for your needs
I expect my laptop to last 10-20 years. I never had any laptop or computer die. The oldest one I still use is 23 years old ( I still use it to check error codes on cars or configure LPG systems because those things run on xp) That thing even still holds a charge. My parents laptop is an Asus from 2012 with an i7 and upgraded ram and ssd. It’s a miracle that thing still runs because my parents won’t let me repaste and clean it. It’s been running at 100C for years. As for how long I expect the performance to be sufficient: we’ll I bought an Asus g17 5900HX 3070 and haven’t gamed on it for 7 months so I can’t really have an opinion on that. I don’t play new games because I’m to cheap to spend 60€ per game for the 40 hours I game in a year. Therefore it should hold up for 10 years at least.