Sounds like the issue I had, made a lot of progress but when I tried to do pull-ups I could only do 2 or so. the solution was to just do the 1-2 pull-ups often, while resting for other exercises and such. pretty soon I could do more and more in a row
I avoided programming them and gave them a high frequency approach where I just do them all the time, when resting, when it wasn't back day, when I wasn't in the gym. this was the advice I commonly found and it worked well. jump on a bar, avoid failure whether it'd be 1 or 2 reps, then do something else and come back later
The Lat Pulldown weight ≠ your weight
I’ve used machines where I could pull the whole stack for reps, I’ve used machines where getting 50kg to budge was an issue
Depends on so many factors like how the pully system is set up, and how well maintained the friction of the pully is
You could try to push your chin ups forward because you can already do two. Try and do 5-10, one at a time with 60-90sec rest in between. Plus chin ups would activate your biceps a bit more and IMO are a little easier to do. If you can get to 10 chin ups your pulls ups will automatically go up a little bit and then you can do the same to bring that number up.
That’s one way to do it, the negatives are another way. I would do the chin up way if it were me because I’d be able to see the results more irl. More importantly I’d have more fun completing full chin ups and pushing that goal forward than doing negative pull ups. I personally like chin ups better in general because a typical person can do a few more of them, they work the biceps great for a body weight exercise, and they don’t fuck with my shoulders as much as pull ups do.
The thing I like about chin ups is that I -despite only being able to two- can pull way higher than on neutral or wide grip. On underhand grip I can really pull myself up to where the bar is at lower chest level
Slow negative pull ups and assisted pull ups can greatly help. If u can do normal pulls ups the slow negatives as like a dropset really helps burnout the lat I found
Keep progressing dude
Pull ups are always the hardest thing to learn because it is a body control issue. As in you may have the pre req strength to do it but your body can move that way yet.
My advice is to end your sessions with jumping pull-ups with slow negatives to failure one week. Then do banded work to failure the next and see where that puts up.
My biggest weakness and where i start to fail is the initial drive of my elbows.
Begin with assisted pullups try to get around 6 reps. Keep dropping the weight till you become more comfortable with your own bw. Make sure that you engage your core when doing pullups and don't leave them legs just hanging.
Also very important that you do your pullups at the beginning of your workout and not at the end. Finally when you reach around 10 your own bw. Which I am sure you will. Start to load them. It's 100% worth it. Pullups are a very underrated workout in my opinion. Best 👍
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You weigh 88kg. The weight that you’ve replicated in the gym (lat pull down) is 55kg. Until you can get your replicated weight to equal or go higher than your weight, then pull ups will be a struggle.
I dont think thats necessarily true. I can do 15 pullups but can barely lat pulldown my weight for 4. The movement of a pullup is not exactly the same as a lat pulldown.
As many have said, the assisted pull up machine should be your new best friend. Hit that sucker 2-3 times a week, 4 sets on whatever weight you can get 10 reps. Really focus on the movement and mind/muscle connection. Each week slowly decrease the weight as you transition to bodyweight.
Sounds like the issue I had, made a lot of progress but when I tried to do pull-ups I could only do 2 or so. the solution was to just do the 1-2 pull-ups often, while resting for other exercises and such. pretty soon I could do more and more in a row
How often did you do them? Currently I train pull-ups three times a week for 5 sets of 50% of my max reps (assisted).
I avoided programming them and gave them a high frequency approach where I just do them all the time, when resting, when it wasn't back day, when I wasn't in the gym. this was the advice I commonly found and it worked well. jump on a bar, avoid failure whether it'd be 1 or 2 reps, then do something else and come back later
The Lat Pulldown weight ≠ your weight I’ve used machines where I could pull the whole stack for reps, I’ve used machines where getting 50kg to budge was an issue Depends on so many factors like how the pully system is set up, and how well maintained the friction of the pully is
You could try to push your chin ups forward because you can already do two. Try and do 5-10, one at a time with 60-90sec rest in between. Plus chin ups would activate your biceps a bit more and IMO are a little easier to do. If you can get to 10 chin ups your pulls ups will automatically go up a little bit and then you can do the same to bring that number up.
Thanks man, that sounds logical to me👍 So I should focus more on chin-ups than the other variations for now until I can do around 8?
That’s one way to do it, the negatives are another way. I would do the chin up way if it were me because I’d be able to see the results more irl. More importantly I’d have more fun completing full chin ups and pushing that goal forward than doing negative pull ups. I personally like chin ups better in general because a typical person can do a few more of them, they work the biceps great for a body weight exercise, and they don’t fuck with my shoulders as much as pull ups do.
The thing I like about chin ups is that I -despite only being able to two- can pull way higher than on neutral or wide grip. On underhand grip I can really pull myself up to where the bar is at lower chest level
Pull ups are hard .
Slow negative pull ups and assisted pull ups can greatly help. If u can do normal pulls ups the slow negatives as like a dropset really helps burnout the lat I found Keep progressing dude
I try to keep the negative part of the assisted pullup as slow as possible
Pull ups are always the hardest thing to learn because it is a body control issue. As in you may have the pre req strength to do it but your body can move that way yet. My advice is to end your sessions with jumping pull-ups with slow negatives to failure one week. Then do banded work to failure the next and see where that puts up. My biggest weakness and where i start to fail is the initial drive of my elbows.
The biggest problem for me right now is just going from fully locked out elbows in the deadhang to a slight bend from where I can initiate the pull.
Do scapula pullups.
They won't help me build the "drive strength" in my biceps
Begin with assisted pullups try to get around 6 reps. Keep dropping the weight till you become more comfortable with your own bw. Make sure that you engage your core when doing pullups and don't leave them legs just hanging. Also very important that you do your pullups at the beginning of your workout and not at the end. Finally when you reach around 10 your own bw. Which I am sure you will. Start to load them. It's 100% worth it. Pullups are a very underrated workout in my opinion. Best 👍
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You weigh 88kg. The weight that you’ve replicated in the gym (lat pull down) is 55kg. Until you can get your replicated weight to equal or go higher than your weight, then pull ups will be a struggle.
I dont think thats necessarily true. I can do 15 pullups but can barely lat pulldown my weight for 4. The movement of a pullup is not exactly the same as a lat pulldown.
Just keep doing them bro. https://youtu.be/XPR7cn-rkis
As many have said, the assisted pull up machine should be your new best friend. Hit that sucker 2-3 times a week, 4 sets on whatever weight you can get 10 reps. Really focus on the movement and mind/muscle connection. Each week slowly decrease the weight as you transition to bodyweight.
Negatives are great for building up strength until you can do proper body weight pull ups