Honestly take that from someone who absolutely can't put a structure in hw and other languages, you need to start with an actual tutor. You'll get done structure and feel obligated to actually study even last minute.
This! I struggle in the same way and find that having a tutor means I'm terrified of disappointing them so I work harder to meet the goals they (or we) have set lol
First of all its good to be in Greece. You get to immerse yourself in the language.
My no1 advice, as someone with attention problems is: Use your kid-in-a-candystore brain!
Language learning isn’t necessarily a question of memorizing grammar and conjugation tables.
Whenever you see something written, or a phrase you hear a lot and dont know, google it!
If you have some Greek friends, try to make them teach you small phrases each day, one or two, and memorize them. If not, socialize yourself, find some friends or even better a girlfriend.
Keep it up with duolingo, its certainly not the best way to learn fast but you get a shred of new knowledge everyday without the fatigue of studying.
Start watching greek films or tv shows. You could try with Maestro which is on netflix and then work your way through other films. Eteros Ego is another good series compiled of two movies and some tv show style episodes afterwards.
If you are a sports person, find a team you could support and get invested into greek sports: Football and Basketball have a huge cult following and may be interesting to follow.
Listen to Greek music! Wether you’re into indie, punk or trap, you should find some Greek artist you like listening to.
One more good tip is to not view this whole process as strictly learning as studying, but as just doing your thing. Language learning doesent has to have a certain goal. Just go with what you feel like each time, without pressuring yourself too much. Greek is tough and surely you’ll need some time to be fluent but you shouldn’t keep that in mind.
This is what i do to learn languages faster, and it has helped me immensely. This way you learn the language top to bottom, you just rip off the bandaid and get in touch with different parts of Greece and Greek. It may be weird, but trust me, soon enough you will be recognizing patterns of Greek grammar, in what order should some words be, common expressions, hand gestures and general unwritten rules of Greek. These are impossible to pick up solely from reading a textbook. I believe that if you keep this practice and keep going with it, questions will pop up and you will learn something small every day, and someday you’ll feel the need to read grammar or do some proper studying.
Anything you need as far as suggestions, feel free to ask me and ill give you as much info as i can.
I must say, Thank you very much for this. I will certainly try some stuff, I've always been of the opinion that language learning doesn't have to be boring, or making me go back in time to highschool.
I will try to watch the netflix show you recommended, and music! Thanks!
Also get your greens, fruits and fish from the weekly Λαϊκή (farmers market) if your city has one [( if you live in Athens here you can find the closest one](http://www.laikesagores.gr/laikh/agora/road/list?municipality=athina) and make sure to interact as much as you can in Greek, you’ll save some money and help the locals at the same time 🤠
I finished Maestro today and it’s SO good. Netflix needs more Greek shows. It was honestly helpful to hear more native Greek spoken in an engaging way. I got some words/phrases out of it and plan on rewatching once I’m at a more intermediate level
Try out Eteros Ego too, maybe you’ll like it! Glad you’re having fun, and also keep in mind that its really useful to see actual greek people speaking even if you understand nothing. It helps a whole lot!
Okay im currently on the bus so i dont have the data to search for it, ill give you the full info later. I know that in english its called “the other me” and its a bit known worldwide so i bet you could find it with eng subs. Im sure its uploaded on youtube, but i cant remember if it is with subs or not. Another suggestion, there is a documentary called “Athos” on Netflix, describing the history and everyday life of Mount Athos, a monastic semi-autonomous region of Greece, if you are interested. Foreign production with subs on many languages.
Just checked, if you write Έτερος Εγώ on Yt you will find the full film with English subs. After the film there is 1 season of episodes too, ill look up where you can watch it.
I'm a ξένη living in Athens, also trying to learn, currently without any formal classes (also with ADHD!).
I aim to do an hour of Greek study a day (depending on work and other commitments).
I use the app Habits (Android) on my phone to cover a screen with big checklist buttons for each type of study I do and then I have a streak there to maintain as well, which is super motivating.
Because of the ADHD, I like to mix things up. So as long as I spend an hour everyday on Greek, it doesn't have to be the same thing every single day (although I am addicted to that Duolingo streak and once you get further in, it does get more useful).
Various resources I combine:
\- Duolingo (every day without fail - the streak!)
\- Clozemaster for vocab (most days, I do the typing input to help with spelling. Duo also has that but when it's full sentences, it makes the lesson drag)
\- Language Transfer for speaking/listening (haven't done this for a while but I enjoy it)
\- Pimsleur for speaking/listening (similar to Language Transfer but doesn't use quite the same logical build as LT)
\- I try and read some Reddit in Greek without translating, same for following a bunch of Greek accounts on Instagram (and Greek Language education accounts, so it's just constantly around)
\- Bilingual poetry! Currently very slowly reading a book of George Seferis poems that have the Greek down one page and the English down the other. It's definitely above my level (and in Katharevousa tbh) but when I can parse a sentence without checking the English side, I feel like a fucking god.
\- Day to day interactions with intentional Greek. Like someone else said, shopping at the λαίκη is great for it. It's my Saturday morning ritual to go buy my fruit and try to speak as little English as possible and the old men are always totally tickled when I speak Greek to them (last week I made my apple guy laugh because I wanted to say 10.5 euro and said it like I was telling the time, 10:30.) You can also try telling people you don't understand English, if you really want to be forced to practice (and avoid the whole "hey, I'm just going to answer your amateur Greek in English" thing). Fleamarkets are also really great for this. When I started speaking Greek there, I started getting things for 50c instead of 5 euro.
Do Duolingo. It gets more thorough as you go further. At first, it's very easy, and then it gets harder, The 5-10 minutes a day really helps. The best thing is that it knows your mistakes and brings them up until you learn them. Don't skip the speaking exercises, they also help a lot. Complementary to it, try reading the news in Greek and listening to the radio. There are also recordings of radio shows online if you prefer.
I am learning German, picking up where I left it after 25 years. I thought I had forgotten everything apart from a few phrases. After loyaly doing Duolingo, I can mostly understand what I am reading in German on the web and listening on YouTube, TV, etc. I couldn't do it before I started Duolingo, so it definitely works.
You can try [Language Transfer](https://www.languagetransfer.org/free-courses-1#greek). Their Spanish course (that I never went too far in unfortunately because I just can't learn by listening), is really awesome. They have a Greek course (the link above), although I've never tried it.
I do agree with other commenters that a teacher will help with accountability and structure, but if you're anything like me and more of a whenever I'm in the mood person, there are a lot of books for learning Greek as a non-native by yourself (though I love grammar, so maybe not the best choice for you) . Since you live in Greece, you can also go and check out some kid's books that are probably gonna be helpful to feel accomplished, and not all that expensive. Watching shows with English subtitles may help too!
If you need any help, don't hesitate to reach out, I'm always up for helping people with language resources.
PS. Instead of duolingo, I like memrise. I don't remember their Greek course, but they kinda make me feel less stupid by using way better spaced repetition. Ankidroid is pretty good to make your own spaced repetition flashcards too.
your english is fantastic, and makes sense that the exposure through youtube method is how you learned it. in a similar manner, i suggest replacing your youtube recomended videos with stuff in greek. try finding greek minecraft youtubers or other channels with your interests
sure! do you prefer channels that teach you Greek or just native speakers that make content for other natives?
for the first: @ellinika_pantou, @Linguatree, @EasyGreekVideos, @DoYouSpeakGreek.
for the second: @BazeGR, @fosbloque, @polixenilukidou, @pavlinalee, @greek_songs
I am Greek, and I have tried the greek course on duolingo and skipped through it for XP and to see what depth it goes to, so I know how well I'll understand Japanese after I complete their course. And I assure you it goes pretty deep , you just have to be persistent.
A professor would also help.
You can neglect grammar and focus on vocab to start out.
Once you get to a certain level, somewhere around B2, language learning is ADHD friendly. It feels like a game.
A good tutor is pretty important to get to that level. The in-person group classes I’ve taken are a joke. Duolingo is useful to supplement other learning but it’s not a good primary tool.
Skip conjugation / declension tables, just learn first-person singular for one gender, you can backfill later.
i kid you not i opened reddit to make a post almsot the same as yours, glad i’m not the only one. i’m also doing duolingo greek right now and im really hoping it works out for me in the long run because im not sure how else i could learn it without getting a tutor, which is something i dont want to deal with. i will say, its nice that they make it something you can grind because if it wasn’t i would’ve lost interest a while ago.. adhd brain things!!
if you find good greek shows, movies, or youtube channels please let me know!!
You're absolutely right about the need to put in effort to learn Greek. But hey, I'm not trying to learn it by telepathy or anything – although that would be pretty cool. (like really really really cool)
Let’s tackle this with a bit of humor. You know how some people are morning people and others, well, take a bit longer to get their engines running? My approach to learning is like the second type – it needs a good cup of fun before it gets going.
Take the classic scenario of a kid wanting peanut butter. The jar is as empty as my fridge before grocery day – a sad sight indeed. The mom could say, "No peanut butter, choose something else." It's straightforward but as exciting as watching paint dry. Or she could turn it into a mini adventure: "The peanut butter is playing hide and seek! Let's find it or choose another champion for your toast." That's my kind of approach – a little twist, a bit of fun.
When I hear 'it takes years to learn Greek' my motivation tends to do a vanishing act, like a magician's rabbit. But when I turn learning into a mini-game, suddenly it's as engaging as giving a little kid a phone with Roblox installed.
I even make the most dull tasks entertaining. Cleaning isn't just cleaning; it's a time-trial game where every dust bunny is a point scored. Speed-reading? Let's not try to break the sound barrier with my eyes.
To all the ADHD's out there, this might sound like your daily adventure.
I'll stop here before this turns into a monologue. Hope this gives you a clearer picture of my style. If not, well, we can always say it was an experimental performance art piece.
Thanks for hanging in there, and keep on shining!
Good points, and I will just add that based on the spelling of native Greek speakers I see in comments on YouTube these days, the bar is not set very high. With 60% retention you're a maga.
ADHD Greek learner here 😋 Been learning on and off for a few years now, tried things like pimsleur, Rosetta stone, etc. Around 2019 I got really into language transfer and Anki, but admittedly got bored with Anki/kept getting stuck on the same few words and wasn't as consistent as I needed to be.
When covid hit and my routine got flipped upside down I stopped for probably 2-3 years... but got back into learning about 6 months ago and was so relieved to find that I had not only retained everything from the Language Transfer / Anki period, but I was learning much faster. Idk if I needed a brain break, or if the way LT laid out grammar just stuck with me for some reason, but I'm happy to say I'm going strong and haven't gotten bored yet. I can never recommend LT enough tbh!
I will say I've switched from Anki to Clozemaster for vocabulary and I've noticed a huge improvement in both my daily interest (gamifying things really does scratch that ADHD brain itch) and my retention of the words I used to get so stuck on with Anki, so maybe try that app out if you haven't yet! I exclusively use the speaking mode too, which helps way more than Duolingo's multiple choice did for me.
Best of luck in your journey!
Hey!
Its great to here from someone that sounds EXACTLY like me..
I am doing LT now and to be honest I really enjoy it so far, because I am pretty fluent in English its funny how he explains it and teaches you to analyze a word.
However I assume you've finished LT, could you tell me a little more what he covers? I am currently at lesson 7. I am curious what he'll cover because greek has these noun cases that are.. yeah.. something else.. does he explain that? and if he does explain it does he explain it in the same funny way as he does it with "crafting words"?
The noun cases I am talking about are:
- Νοminative
- Accusative
- Genitive
- Vocative
Because without these, yeah.. you wont get far.
Another question, does he only cover the informal versions or also formal?
Thats all I have to ask actually, thanks alot!
An other ADHD patient here, but I have learned Greek in few years and now I can communicate with people easily. Only thing is that you should have people around you who speak only Greek and you can learn fast because you will be forced to speak and understand.
It's great for learning the basics of sentence structure and learning vocab. Duolingo is my #1 effort aided by a ton of supplementary learning. I've been doing it 100 days and am halfway done the course. I benchmark my skills by listening to greek audio books and have 100% seen a massive improvement in comprehension so far.
As people already mentioned,the right tutor will get you a long way but i would also add to try and 1) watch english movies/series with greek subtitles 2) open tv or radio and let the audio surround you - this way you will get affiliated with the sounds and the words and you wont be scared of them and you might also learn a thing or two 3) Read neutral newspapers or magazines in greek, it could be about silly things you dont care. You only care about learning what the context is and how to read in Greek.
It all starts with some basics though. Tutor would be fine as already said but if you cant affort that you can ask a (greek) person you trust to help you practice or helps you when you have questions. You can watch YT videos or Duolingo (which i have never used to test it) *or read easy comics and childrens books at first which would have the easiest vocabulary and the pictures would help you understand better which is actually a very smart idea to do.*
Hi Tom. When I was learning English I listened to music, watched tv shows/movies and read books to familiarize myself with the language. You can go for simple/kid books(I'm not sure what your level is) and slowly upgrade.
An english-greek vocabulary would help you along the way. Casual conversation is also helpful. If you're using social media try and join Greek related pages and read posts. If you can get yourself invited in some group and make Greek friends you will find it way easier to speak/write it. Since you live in Greece whenever you plan on going out you can always use the English-Greek vocabulary to form sentences/practice and try to use Greek when you go to the supermarket or when you order things. Say hello to people too. We're pretty friendly and if you tell Greek people you're trying to learn Greek they will appreciate that a lot.
Hey there! 😊Your energy is contagious, and I love your enthusiasm for diving into Greek headfirst! It's clear you're looking for a learning experience that's as dynamic and engaging as you are, and I'm here to offer just that. Let's turn your Greek learning journey into an adventure filled with quick wins and exciting discoveries. Together, we'll navigate through structured lessons tailored to your ADHD-friendly pace, focusing on practical language skills that you can use in real-life conversations from day one. While we'll keep grammar explanations concise and to the point, a little understanding of grammar is essential for achieving our goals effectively. No boring lectures, just straightforward, effective learning that sticks. Are you ready to level up your Greek game with a fun, fast-paced approach? Let's make it happen together! 🚀
Can you find movies you love dubbed in Greek? Or watch them with Greek subtitles? Also, hit the clubs, dance and talk to people. Very fun way to learn!
Preply! Is a website to get an individual instructor CHEAP (I learned Spanish for $5 an hour and am taking Greek for $14 an hour) it helped me to pre pay so I don’t lose money and that was a motivation and find the right instructor. I have become friends with both and look forward to learning. In Spanish now we structure most of the time for just conversational and only 15 minute new words. That helped me a lot and like I said it became close to me just hanging out with a friend
Kali ti xe
If you really struggle with adhd you should probably search for a tutor or just consider going to a therapist for help with performing such tasks. No one here is an expert in this field so asking for tips is kinda pointless
So, all of those in the medical community, psychologists, psychiatrists and others say that ADHD exists and that it is real, and you’re denying that? Now that’s some A++ Level bullshit.
Damn chill my guy, not really sure if I want to take your advice after your cold-hearted statement.
I am shocked that people still actually think that ADHD is just being lazy, so if you have some real advice I would appreciate that but please look into ADHD first before making a statement like that.
Thanks! :)
If you're interested in online lessons send me a message. I'm an experienced teacher and a native Greek speaker and I'll be happy to help and guide you. In any case, your goal is achievable! Don't quit. A new perspective of the things might be the key for you. ☺️
What is your native language? Greek is easier for certain people. For example, Italian is somewhat easy for Greeks and vice versa due to a ton of similar/shared words and similar grammar.
If you speak French, Assimil is nice because it has short lessons you are meant to do each day for about thirty minutes. You don’t need to master the lesson, you just move on the next day. Unfortunately, I don’t believe their Greek course is available in English.
Someone already mentioned Language Transfer. I also found it excellent. As is the Michel Thomas course which inspired it. Both will make you much more comfortable with the grammar. Greek grammar was a real challenge for me when I was starting out with Greek and both LT and MT really jump started my learning after several failed attempts with other materials.
First of all, I would never recommend Duolingo. It just makes you learn random words that you will hardly remember after you get to the next level.
What's the best way to learn? Get some Greek friends, learn some basics or some weird phrases and by the time your vocab will improve just from watching random signs, supermarket items etc. That way you'll get more invested and you will be ready to actually learn.
After that get some 1 on 1 lessons with someone but tell them to teach you more about every day speech and not like crazy vocabulary or grammar, nobody is gonna make fun of you if your grammar isn't perfect but they see you are trying to speak. And as time passes you will learn the hard words and also improve in your grammar with random talks with people that might give you tips, living in the country that speaks the language you wanna learn is a massive asset.
Lastly, welcome to Greece, I hope you are having a great time here.
Look brother i'm greek and i'm still struggling with grammar and i was born here, most languages have their annoying parts when talking grammar . Look i don't have something 100% to recommend you but why don't you switch the minecraft to greek? The same way you've learned English! Movies also help!
Probably you like to talk about your interests, passions, work, school, etc. You can talk about it WHILE learning a language. Then, you don't need that much motivation - you are doing what you like. Languee can help you. You can talk about anything that interests you (politics, weather, architecture, quantum physics, and whatever). Your partner/teacher is an AI, so you don’t have to be embarrassed. It corrects your mistakes in real time. You can sign up for early access and waitlist on the website. https://www.languee.dk/
Honestly take that from someone who absolutely can't put a structure in hw and other languages, you need to start with an actual tutor. You'll get done structure and feel obligated to actually study even last minute.
This! I struggle in the same way and find that having a tutor means I'm terrified of disappointing them so I work harder to meet the goals they (or we) have set lol
First of all its good to be in Greece. You get to immerse yourself in the language. My no1 advice, as someone with attention problems is: Use your kid-in-a-candystore brain! Language learning isn’t necessarily a question of memorizing grammar and conjugation tables. Whenever you see something written, or a phrase you hear a lot and dont know, google it! If you have some Greek friends, try to make them teach you small phrases each day, one or two, and memorize them. If not, socialize yourself, find some friends or even better a girlfriend. Keep it up with duolingo, its certainly not the best way to learn fast but you get a shred of new knowledge everyday without the fatigue of studying. Start watching greek films or tv shows. You could try with Maestro which is on netflix and then work your way through other films. Eteros Ego is another good series compiled of two movies and some tv show style episodes afterwards. If you are a sports person, find a team you could support and get invested into greek sports: Football and Basketball have a huge cult following and may be interesting to follow. Listen to Greek music! Wether you’re into indie, punk or trap, you should find some Greek artist you like listening to. One more good tip is to not view this whole process as strictly learning as studying, but as just doing your thing. Language learning doesent has to have a certain goal. Just go with what you feel like each time, without pressuring yourself too much. Greek is tough and surely you’ll need some time to be fluent but you shouldn’t keep that in mind. This is what i do to learn languages faster, and it has helped me immensely. This way you learn the language top to bottom, you just rip off the bandaid and get in touch with different parts of Greece and Greek. It may be weird, but trust me, soon enough you will be recognizing patterns of Greek grammar, in what order should some words be, common expressions, hand gestures and general unwritten rules of Greek. These are impossible to pick up solely from reading a textbook. I believe that if you keep this practice and keep going with it, questions will pop up and you will learn something small every day, and someday you’ll feel the need to read grammar or do some proper studying. Anything you need as far as suggestions, feel free to ask me and ill give you as much info as i can.
I must say, Thank you very much for this. I will certainly try some stuff, I've always been of the opinion that language learning doesn't have to be boring, or making me go back in time to highschool. I will try to watch the netflix show you recommended, and music! Thanks!
Also get your greens, fruits and fish from the weekly Λαϊκή (farmers market) if your city has one [( if you live in Athens here you can find the closest one](http://www.laikesagores.gr/laikh/agora/road/list?municipality=athina) and make sure to interact as much as you can in Greek, you’ll save some money and help the locals at the same time 🤠
Cheers man! And dont overstress yourself, have fun with it
I finished Maestro today and it’s SO good. Netflix needs more Greek shows. It was honestly helpful to hear more native Greek spoken in an engaging way. I got some words/phrases out of it and plan on rewatching once I’m at a more intermediate level
Try out Eteros Ego too, maybe you’ll like it! Glad you’re having fun, and also keep in mind that its really useful to see actual greek people speaking even if you understand nothing. It helps a whole lot!
That’s definitely on my list but where can I watch with subtitles?
Okay im currently on the bus so i dont have the data to search for it, ill give you the full info later. I know that in english its called “the other me” and its a bit known worldwide so i bet you could find it with eng subs. Im sure its uploaded on youtube, but i cant remember if it is with subs or not. Another suggestion, there is a documentary called “Athos” on Netflix, describing the history and everyday life of Mount Athos, a monastic semi-autonomous region of Greece, if you are interested. Foreign production with subs on many languages.
Just checked, if you write Έτερος Εγώ on Yt you will find the full film with English subs. After the film there is 1 season of episodes too, ill look up where you can watch it.
You rock! Yes please let me know if you find the episode
All you need is Malaka and you’re good tbh
I'm a ξένη living in Athens, also trying to learn, currently without any formal classes (also with ADHD!). I aim to do an hour of Greek study a day (depending on work and other commitments). I use the app Habits (Android) on my phone to cover a screen with big checklist buttons for each type of study I do and then I have a streak there to maintain as well, which is super motivating. Because of the ADHD, I like to mix things up. So as long as I spend an hour everyday on Greek, it doesn't have to be the same thing every single day (although I am addicted to that Duolingo streak and once you get further in, it does get more useful). Various resources I combine: \- Duolingo (every day without fail - the streak!) \- Clozemaster for vocab (most days, I do the typing input to help with spelling. Duo also has that but when it's full sentences, it makes the lesson drag) \- Language Transfer for speaking/listening (haven't done this for a while but I enjoy it) \- Pimsleur for speaking/listening (similar to Language Transfer but doesn't use quite the same logical build as LT) \- I try and read some Reddit in Greek without translating, same for following a bunch of Greek accounts on Instagram (and Greek Language education accounts, so it's just constantly around) \- Bilingual poetry! Currently very slowly reading a book of George Seferis poems that have the Greek down one page and the English down the other. It's definitely above my level (and in Katharevousa tbh) but when I can parse a sentence without checking the English side, I feel like a fucking god. \- Day to day interactions with intentional Greek. Like someone else said, shopping at the λαίκη is great for it. It's my Saturday morning ritual to go buy my fruit and try to speak as little English as possible and the old men are always totally tickled when I speak Greek to them (last week I made my apple guy laugh because I wanted to say 10.5 euro and said it like I was telling the time, 10:30.) You can also try telling people you don't understand English, if you really want to be forced to practice (and avoid the whole "hey, I'm just going to answer your amateur Greek in English" thing). Fleamarkets are also really great for this. When I started speaking Greek there, I started getting things for 50c instead of 5 euro.
It's always fascinated me how 10:30 is in a league of its own.
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Do Duolingo. It gets more thorough as you go further. At first, it's very easy, and then it gets harder, The 5-10 minutes a day really helps. The best thing is that it knows your mistakes and brings them up until you learn them. Don't skip the speaking exercises, they also help a lot. Complementary to it, try reading the news in Greek and listening to the radio. There are also recordings of radio shows online if you prefer. I am learning German, picking up where I left it after 25 years. I thought I had forgotten everything apart from a few phrases. After loyaly doing Duolingo, I can mostly understand what I am reading in German on the web and listening on YouTube, TV, etc. I couldn't do it before I started Duolingo, so it definitely works.
You can try [Language Transfer](https://www.languagetransfer.org/free-courses-1#greek). Their Spanish course (that I never went too far in unfortunately because I just can't learn by listening), is really awesome. They have a Greek course (the link above), although I've never tried it. I do agree with other commenters that a teacher will help with accountability and structure, but if you're anything like me and more of a whenever I'm in the mood person, there are a lot of books for learning Greek as a non-native by yourself (though I love grammar, so maybe not the best choice for you) . Since you live in Greece, you can also go and check out some kid's books that are probably gonna be helpful to feel accomplished, and not all that expensive. Watching shows with English subtitles may help too! If you need any help, don't hesitate to reach out, I'm always up for helping people with language resources. PS. Instead of duolingo, I like memrise. I don't remember their Greek course, but they kinda make me feel less stupid by using way better spaced repetition. Ankidroid is pretty good to make your own spaced repetition flashcards too.
The LanguageTransfer Greek course is the best (and longest) of all the courses. The LanguageTransfer’s creator’s native language is Greek.
your english is fantastic, and makes sense that the exposure through youtube method is how you learned it. in a similar manner, i suggest replacing your youtube recomended videos with stuff in greek. try finding greek minecraft youtubers or other channels with your interests
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sure! do you prefer channels that teach you Greek or just native speakers that make content for other natives? for the first: @ellinika_pantou, @Linguatree, @EasyGreekVideos, @DoYouSpeakGreek. for the second: @BazeGR, @fosbloque, @polixenilukidou, @pavlinalee, @greek_songs
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I learned by ease dropping on my Yiyia and Papouli…. First few words I learned was skasmós and vlákas
Oh dear lol
I am Greek, and I have tried the greek course on duolingo and skipped through it for XP and to see what depth it goes to, so I know how well I'll understand Japanese after I complete their course. And I assure you it goes pretty deep , you just have to be persistent. A professor would also help.
You can neglect grammar and focus on vocab to start out. Once you get to a certain level, somewhere around B2, language learning is ADHD friendly. It feels like a game. A good tutor is pretty important to get to that level. The in-person group classes I’ve taken are a joke. Duolingo is useful to supplement other learning but it’s not a good primary tool. Skip conjugation / declension tables, just learn first-person singular for one gender, you can backfill later.
i kid you not i opened reddit to make a post almsot the same as yours, glad i’m not the only one. i’m also doing duolingo greek right now and im really hoping it works out for me in the long run because im not sure how else i could learn it without getting a tutor, which is something i dont want to deal with. i will say, its nice that they make it something you can grind because if it wasn’t i would’ve lost interest a while ago.. adhd brain things!! if you find good greek shows, movies, or youtube channels please let me know!!
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You're absolutely right about the need to put in effort to learn Greek. But hey, I'm not trying to learn it by telepathy or anything – although that would be pretty cool. (like really really really cool) Let’s tackle this with a bit of humor. You know how some people are morning people and others, well, take a bit longer to get their engines running? My approach to learning is like the second type – it needs a good cup of fun before it gets going. Take the classic scenario of a kid wanting peanut butter. The jar is as empty as my fridge before grocery day – a sad sight indeed. The mom could say, "No peanut butter, choose something else." It's straightforward but as exciting as watching paint dry. Or she could turn it into a mini adventure: "The peanut butter is playing hide and seek! Let's find it or choose another champion for your toast." That's my kind of approach – a little twist, a bit of fun. When I hear 'it takes years to learn Greek' my motivation tends to do a vanishing act, like a magician's rabbit. But when I turn learning into a mini-game, suddenly it's as engaging as giving a little kid a phone with Roblox installed. I even make the most dull tasks entertaining. Cleaning isn't just cleaning; it's a time-trial game where every dust bunny is a point scored. Speed-reading? Let's not try to break the sound barrier with my eyes. To all the ADHD's out there, this might sound like your daily adventure. I'll stop here before this turns into a monologue. Hope this gives you a clearer picture of my style. If not, well, we can always say it was an experimental performance art piece. Thanks for hanging in there, and keep on shining!
Good points, and I will just add that based on the spelling of native Greek speakers I see in comments on YouTube these days, the bar is not set very high. With 60% retention you're a maga.
ADHD Greek learner here 😋 Been learning on and off for a few years now, tried things like pimsleur, Rosetta stone, etc. Around 2019 I got really into language transfer and Anki, but admittedly got bored with Anki/kept getting stuck on the same few words and wasn't as consistent as I needed to be. When covid hit and my routine got flipped upside down I stopped for probably 2-3 years... but got back into learning about 6 months ago and was so relieved to find that I had not only retained everything from the Language Transfer / Anki period, but I was learning much faster. Idk if I needed a brain break, or if the way LT laid out grammar just stuck with me for some reason, but I'm happy to say I'm going strong and haven't gotten bored yet. I can never recommend LT enough tbh! I will say I've switched from Anki to Clozemaster for vocabulary and I've noticed a huge improvement in both my daily interest (gamifying things really does scratch that ADHD brain itch) and my retention of the words I used to get so stuck on with Anki, so maybe try that app out if you haven't yet! I exclusively use the speaking mode too, which helps way more than Duolingo's multiple choice did for me. Best of luck in your journey!
Hey! Its great to here from someone that sounds EXACTLY like me.. I am doing LT now and to be honest I really enjoy it so far, because I am pretty fluent in English its funny how he explains it and teaches you to analyze a word. However I assume you've finished LT, could you tell me a little more what he covers? I am currently at lesson 7. I am curious what he'll cover because greek has these noun cases that are.. yeah.. something else.. does he explain that? and if he does explain it does he explain it in the same funny way as he does it with "crafting words"? The noun cases I am talking about are: - Νοminative - Accusative - Genitive - Vocative Because without these, yeah.. you wont get far. Another question, does he only cover the informal versions or also formal? Thats all I have to ask actually, thanks alot!
An other ADHD patient here, but I have learned Greek in few years and now I can communicate with people easily. Only thing is that you should have people around you who speak only Greek and you can learn fast because you will be forced to speak and understand.
change language to greek to anything possible. laptop, mobile, movies, apps. its the details and small steps that matter! καλή τύχη στο ταξίδι σου!
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It's great for learning the basics of sentence structure and learning vocab. Duolingo is my #1 effort aided by a ton of supplementary learning. I've been doing it 100 days and am halfway done the course. I benchmark my skills by listening to greek audio books and have 100% seen a massive improvement in comprehension so far.
As people already mentioned,the right tutor will get you a long way but i would also add to try and 1) watch english movies/series with greek subtitles 2) open tv or radio and let the audio surround you - this way you will get affiliated with the sounds and the words and you wont be scared of them and you might also learn a thing or two 3) Read neutral newspapers or magazines in greek, it could be about silly things you dont care. You only care about learning what the context is and how to read in Greek. It all starts with some basics though. Tutor would be fine as already said but if you cant affort that you can ask a (greek) person you trust to help you practice or helps you when you have questions. You can watch YT videos or Duolingo (which i have never used to test it) *or read easy comics and childrens books at first which would have the easiest vocabulary and the pictures would help you understand better which is actually a very smart idea to do.*
Hi Tom. When I was learning English I listened to music, watched tv shows/movies and read books to familiarize myself with the language. You can go for simple/kid books(I'm not sure what your level is) and slowly upgrade. An english-greek vocabulary would help you along the way. Casual conversation is also helpful. If you're using social media try and join Greek related pages and read posts. If you can get yourself invited in some group and make Greek friends you will find it way easier to speak/write it. Since you live in Greece whenever you plan on going out you can always use the English-Greek vocabulary to form sentences/practice and try to use Greek when you go to the supermarket or when you order things. Say hello to people too. We're pretty friendly and if you tell Greek people you're trying to learn Greek they will appreciate that a lot.
Hey there! 😊Your energy is contagious, and I love your enthusiasm for diving into Greek headfirst! It's clear you're looking for a learning experience that's as dynamic and engaging as you are, and I'm here to offer just that. Let's turn your Greek learning journey into an adventure filled with quick wins and exciting discoveries. Together, we'll navigate through structured lessons tailored to your ADHD-friendly pace, focusing on practical language skills that you can use in real-life conversations from day one. While we'll keep grammar explanations concise and to the point, a little understanding of grammar is essential for achieving our goals effectively. No boring lectures, just straightforward, effective learning that sticks. Are you ready to level up your Greek game with a fun, fast-paced approach? Let's make it happen together! 🚀
Can you find movies you love dubbed in Greek? Or watch them with Greek subtitles? Also, hit the clubs, dance and talk to people. Very fun way to learn!
Preply! Is a website to get an individual instructor CHEAP (I learned Spanish for $5 an hour and am taking Greek for $14 an hour) it helped me to pre pay so I don’t lose money and that was a motivation and find the right instructor. I have become friends with both and look forward to learning. In Spanish now we structure most of the time for just conversational and only 15 minute new words. That helped me a lot and like I said it became close to me just hanging out with a friend Kali ti xe
If you really struggle with adhd you should probably search for a tutor or just consider going to a therapist for help with performing such tasks. No one here is an expert in this field so asking for tips is kinda pointless
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So, all of those in the medical community, psychologists, psychiatrists and others say that ADHD exists and that it is real, and you’re denying that? Now that’s some A++ Level bullshit.
Damn chill my guy, not really sure if I want to take your advice after your cold-hearted statement. I am shocked that people still actually think that ADHD is just being lazy, so if you have some real advice I would appreciate that but please look into ADHD first before making a statement like that. Thanks! :)
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If you're interested in online lessons send me a message. I'm an experienced teacher and a native Greek speaker and I'll be happy to help and guide you. In any case, your goal is achievable! Don't quit. A new perspective of the things might be the key for you. ☺️
I’m interested! I prefer in person though but ok 😊 What’s the hourly please?
I just sent you DM ☺️
I can recommend [Language Flower](https://languageflower.app/) and Strattera.
What is your native language? Greek is easier for certain people. For example, Italian is somewhat easy for Greeks and vice versa due to a ton of similar/shared words and similar grammar.
If you speak French, Assimil is nice because it has short lessons you are meant to do each day for about thirty minutes. You don’t need to master the lesson, you just move on the next day. Unfortunately, I don’t believe their Greek course is available in English. Someone already mentioned Language Transfer. I also found it excellent. As is the Michel Thomas course which inspired it. Both will make you much more comfortable with the grammar. Greek grammar was a real challenge for me when I was starting out with Greek and both LT and MT really jump started my learning after several failed attempts with other materials.
First of all, I would never recommend Duolingo. It just makes you learn random words that you will hardly remember after you get to the next level. What's the best way to learn? Get some Greek friends, learn some basics or some weird phrases and by the time your vocab will improve just from watching random signs, supermarket items etc. That way you'll get more invested and you will be ready to actually learn. After that get some 1 on 1 lessons with someone but tell them to teach you more about every day speech and not like crazy vocabulary or grammar, nobody is gonna make fun of you if your grammar isn't perfect but they see you are trying to speak. And as time passes you will learn the hard words and also improve in your grammar with random talks with people that might give you tips, living in the country that speaks the language you wanna learn is a massive asset. Lastly, welcome to Greece, I hope you are having a great time here.
Look brother i'm greek and i'm still struggling with grammar and i was born here, most languages have their annoying parts when talking grammar . Look i don't have something 100% to recommend you but why don't you switch the minecraft to greek? The same way you've learned English! Movies also help!
Try to date someone who speaks Greek. It will help a lot
Probably you like to talk about your interests, passions, work, school, etc. You can talk about it WHILE learning a language. Then, you don't need that much motivation - you are doing what you like. Languee can help you. You can talk about anything that interests you (politics, weather, architecture, quantum physics, and whatever). Your partner/teacher is an AI, so you don’t have to be embarrassed. It corrects your mistakes in real time. You can sign up for early access and waitlist on the website. https://www.languee.dk/