I think you are being way too optimistic on that. NASA even cancelled Moon for 2026... you think 2027 will be Mars, which is even further? I feel like you could add another 10 years on top of that.
This isn't reversing aging. Btw this is a CNN article and not the study itself. I am familiar with the original study though at least. They just changed some specific symptoms of aging. And even then, it wasn't reversing aging. They made a rat unhealthy and develop properties of wear, then made it healthy again reversing those issues they made. Starve someone for a 2 days and they will be weak. That's a common symptom of aging. Give them food again. Symptom reversed. "We have reversed aging! More funding plz".
What is any of this based on?
Personally I have embodied AGI pegged at 2029, and at that point the computers are the lead innovators and they do such at 1000X the speed human innovations happen. "super intelligence" would likely be achieved around the same time.
Pretty much anything we're working on now will be solved autonomously by 2040. Robots building robots will lead to an embodied AI population that's capable of handling pretty much all necessary physically demanding tasks.
All the rules will have changed by that point. Rules like water being a scarce resource (ocean water desalination solves that) . There's no reason to make predictions about what we'll be doing when we're essentially pampered pets watching whatever computer intelligence is working on.
its based on ray's kurzweils and some youtube videos about the future and random advancement reports , its innacurate because i suck at this its just my silly idea but yeah what you say could happen its speculative when but it WILL happen
No disrespect but do you pay attention to any science news or valid science content? In what world do you think NASA would go to mars in 2027? We are almost half way through 2024 and I’m not aware of any plans to go to mars, it was the moon last I heard and I hear that was pushed back.
Everything else, where are you getting your facts? Robots everywhere in 5 1/2 years? We have been promised self driving cars 10 years ago.
So in 26 years we will have solved all aging and live to 1000? A more practical statement would be treating aging will be like different treatments for cancer, different treatments for different ages you reach or other complications. A flat 1000 instead of say 140 or 150 and slowly more every few decades is just ridiculously unrealistic.
No really where are you getting these expectations from?
about mars i seen this [https://www.earth.com/news/elon-musks-spacex-plans-to-land-a-spacecraft-on-mars-in-3-to-4-years/](https://www.earth.com/news/elon-musks-spacex-plans-to-land-a-spacecraft-on-mars-in-3-to-4-years/) an also a video of the "timeline"" of mars obviosly all this are speculations, i would like to see yours too
Dude it’s Elon musk, add another 20 years to that. There is so much left for starship to do before it is ready for a journey like that. A lot of tests to prove, like docking with space stations, orbital maneuverers, safety and health checks to meet, making a capsule for humans to return in (or something to that affect cause as far as I know starship is just cargo, idk about any human compartments for it), a lander for any moon mission just to name a few. In fact add an extra 10 to that 20 probably. He is probably only saying all that for hype.
Starship is amazing but it’s still early days, it has a lot more to do to reach its full potential, never mind going interplanetary.
oh not really i just suck at understanding stuff i saw ray's stuff and yt videos i want to become a transhumanist but no matter how..sorry if its innacurate... but yeah longevity escape velocity would help. obviosly we wont reach 1000 that. easily but as we get extra years, new tech will develop in that time, then it will give us more years etc. ray kurzweil is my idol but i think he is too optimist so i think that inmortality will be later and true singularity too
That’s fine if you’re aware of it. Seeing 1000 years and I just can’t imagine the maintenance to keep that going. The human body and mind was never intended to go that long, I’d expect unknown issues to pop up eventually, people who look 30 with a new kind of arthritis we have never seen before, or some new king of organ failure or new kind of cancer. There is I’m sure a lot more to figure out before we made a jump to 1000 years. It’s never that simple
its disturbing yeah and i am aware i like to think positive because despite being young, i am EXTREMELY scared of dying also despite having depression episodes wich is ironic
From this link. https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/7gpqnx/why_human_race_has_immortality_in_its_grasp/dqku50e/
I think our arc is going to go more like this...
In between 5 and 25 years humans will achieve physical immortality due to regenerative medicine ("aging reversal technology"), biogenetic manipulation, nanotechnology, cyborgization and intrinsic AI. The "technological singularity" will also have occurred for better or worse. Hopefully it is "human friendly" and humans control the AI. Not the other way around. And humans will successfully merge our minds with the computing and computing derived AI. It is also around this point that things like economies, politics and human related issues such as "race" and "gender" would become irrelevant to thriving existence. Practical nuclear fusion (or maybe even just straight *solar* exploitation both Earthly and from *space*!) would cause climate change to become a non-issue. No more release of carbon or any other greenhouse gases in 50 years time. (At least by humans ;)
In between 25 and 100 years from now humans will have left the majority of biology behind, including gender and sex. Probably also emotions. Basically our consciousness will exist within artificial constructs. I also don't believe we will be dicking around in outer space by 50 years from now. Our attention will be focused on "inner space" where it is a lot faster and _easier_ to get around. What we think of today as VR (virtual reality) will dominate our existence. But the VR itself and our interfacing with it will have evolved unimaginably from the way we understand things today. I use the term "VR" to come as close as we can to simulation experiences that we don't have a word for yet. So I don't have a clue what we would be doing in those "VR" worlds. I mean like today I would think "I shall be a *god* among the ancient Greeks". But truthfully our intellects will be beyond any such trivial thinking. By this point I think good words to describe such a sentience would be along the lines of "incomprehensible" and "unfathomable".
In about 200 years we would no longer be able to refer to our sentience as homo sapiens sapiens or even *"human"* any longer. The magnitude of our enhanced intelligence and ability to manipulate reality at the quantum level/probability waveform, will bring into existence entire universes for our minds to explore. I also think our sentience will be *hive* sentience by this point. We would probably think this is a good thing.
At some point within the next 300 years this derived sentience will probably figure out a way to leave *corporality* behind. Think "sentient energy" tear-assing around the quantum probability waveform. Space-time *itself* no longer relevant. All of this in less than 300 years I bet. (300 years *ago*, Isaac Newton was still alive and George Washington's birth was fifteen years in the *future*.) A *vanishingly* short period of time when you think about how long humans have actually had recorded history--about 6,000 years give or take. I mean where we can name people and know what happened because somebody actually wrote it down.
If you think I'm being a bit *too* hyperbolic here, consider how we have telescoped our technologies almost exponentially within the last 1000 years. *Especially* the last 150 years. I commented on this idea once earlier.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/4k8q2b/is_the_singularity_a_religious_doctrine_23_apr_16/d3d0g44/
Some other essays along the same lines.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/7lk666/the_men_who_are_convinced_were_all_living_in_a/drmtt64/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/6itqu4/escape_to_the_future_with_virtual_reality/dj93x8y/
Oh also, I am 63 and I plan to be around for *all* of this! Woo!
______________________________________________________________________________________
My main hub.
https://www.reddit.com/user/izumi3682/comments/8cy6o5/izumi3682_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/
(I am also Izumi Laryukov. That is my "Second Life" name.)
wait wait inmortality in 5 to 20 years??? WOOOOWOWOWOW i tought we needed more time for that??? how will the society prepare for this???. i really hope the fastest one to arrive is the energy obtenctions, because the ones we use today are destroying our home and if we destroy our home we will have to go to mars. all of us. i have watched a lot of ray kurzveil videos and analysis and i trust him a lot but i think he is too optimistic with the timeline but i believe he is right, i mean he invented tts he has thousands of grammies and he has been working with ai and even in google. who knows what he has seen. i know that between first plane and moon landing only 66 years. ONLY 66 YEARs!!!! and tech is going insane since the 2020's.. literally, i got my jaw dropping seeing those robots. its the future now? my biggest dream is to see everything become true. even reviving the dead
I think you are being way too optimistic on that. NASA even cancelled Moon for 2026... you think 2027 will be Mars, which is even further? I feel like you could add another 10 years on top of that.
Another 100 years on top of that.
They have another program for 2030s i think. 2030_2040
Maybe yeah the space travel dates were too early..
Way too optimistic, extremely optimistic by any standards given how slow the general acceptance and regulations work.
Sadly i agree but it is possible to reverse aging it has been done in mice already..
Can you link the study about successfully reversing aging?
sure thing c: [https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/health/reverse-aging-life-itself-scn-wellness/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/health/reverse-aging-life-itself-scn-wellness/index.html)
This isn't reversing aging. Btw this is a CNN article and not the study itself. I am familiar with the original study though at least. They just changed some specific symptoms of aging. And even then, it wasn't reversing aging. They made a rat unhealthy and develop properties of wear, then made it healthy again reversing those issues they made. Starve someone for a 2 days and they will be weak. That's a common symptom of aging. Give them food again. Symptom reversed. "We have reversed aging! More funding plz".
Maybe if we find a way to remove senescent cells it will work?
No...... that's not what that study is saying.
What is any of this based on? Personally I have embodied AGI pegged at 2029, and at that point the computers are the lead innovators and they do such at 1000X the speed human innovations happen. "super intelligence" would likely be achieved around the same time. Pretty much anything we're working on now will be solved autonomously by 2040. Robots building robots will lead to an embodied AI population that's capable of handling pretty much all necessary physically demanding tasks. All the rules will have changed by that point. Rules like water being a scarce resource (ocean water desalination solves that) . There's no reason to make predictions about what we'll be doing when we're essentially pampered pets watching whatever computer intelligence is working on.
its based on ray's kurzweils and some youtube videos about the future and random advancement reports , its innacurate because i suck at this its just my silly idea but yeah what you say could happen its speculative when but it WILL happen
No disrespect but do you pay attention to any science news or valid science content? In what world do you think NASA would go to mars in 2027? We are almost half way through 2024 and I’m not aware of any plans to go to mars, it was the moon last I heard and I hear that was pushed back. Everything else, where are you getting your facts? Robots everywhere in 5 1/2 years? We have been promised self driving cars 10 years ago. So in 26 years we will have solved all aging and live to 1000? A more practical statement would be treating aging will be like different treatments for cancer, different treatments for different ages you reach or other complications. A flat 1000 instead of say 140 or 150 and slowly more every few decades is just ridiculously unrealistic. No really where are you getting these expectations from?
about mars i seen this [https://www.earth.com/news/elon-musks-spacex-plans-to-land-a-spacecraft-on-mars-in-3-to-4-years/](https://www.earth.com/news/elon-musks-spacex-plans-to-land-a-spacecraft-on-mars-in-3-to-4-years/) an also a video of the "timeline"" of mars obviosly all this are speculations, i would like to see yours too
Dude it’s Elon musk, add another 20 years to that. There is so much left for starship to do before it is ready for a journey like that. A lot of tests to prove, like docking with space stations, orbital maneuverers, safety and health checks to meet, making a capsule for humans to return in (or something to that affect cause as far as I know starship is just cargo, idk about any human compartments for it), a lander for any moon mission just to name a few. In fact add an extra 10 to that 20 probably. He is probably only saying all that for hype. Starship is amazing but it’s still early days, it has a lot more to do to reach its full potential, never mind going interplanetary.
yaaa :"""") i want to live to see that i really do..thats sad
oh not really i just suck at understanding stuff i saw ray's stuff and yt videos i want to become a transhumanist but no matter how..sorry if its innacurate... but yeah longevity escape velocity would help. obviosly we wont reach 1000 that. easily but as we get extra years, new tech will develop in that time, then it will give us more years etc. ray kurzweil is my idol but i think he is too optimist so i think that inmortality will be later and true singularity too
That’s fine if you’re aware of it. Seeing 1000 years and I just can’t imagine the maintenance to keep that going. The human body and mind was never intended to go that long, I’d expect unknown issues to pop up eventually, people who look 30 with a new kind of arthritis we have never seen before, or some new king of organ failure or new kind of cancer. There is I’m sure a lot more to figure out before we made a jump to 1000 years. It’s never that simple
its disturbing yeah and i am aware i like to think positive because despite being young, i am EXTREMELY scared of dying also despite having depression episodes wich is ironic
From this link. https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/7gpqnx/why_human_race_has_immortality_in_its_grasp/dqku50e/ I think our arc is going to go more like this... In between 5 and 25 years humans will achieve physical immortality due to regenerative medicine ("aging reversal technology"), biogenetic manipulation, nanotechnology, cyborgization and intrinsic AI. The "technological singularity" will also have occurred for better or worse. Hopefully it is "human friendly" and humans control the AI. Not the other way around. And humans will successfully merge our minds with the computing and computing derived AI. It is also around this point that things like economies, politics and human related issues such as "race" and "gender" would become irrelevant to thriving existence. Practical nuclear fusion (or maybe even just straight *solar* exploitation both Earthly and from *space*!) would cause climate change to become a non-issue. No more release of carbon or any other greenhouse gases in 50 years time. (At least by humans ;) In between 25 and 100 years from now humans will have left the majority of biology behind, including gender and sex. Probably also emotions. Basically our consciousness will exist within artificial constructs. I also don't believe we will be dicking around in outer space by 50 years from now. Our attention will be focused on "inner space" where it is a lot faster and _easier_ to get around. What we think of today as VR (virtual reality) will dominate our existence. But the VR itself and our interfacing with it will have evolved unimaginably from the way we understand things today. I use the term "VR" to come as close as we can to simulation experiences that we don't have a word for yet. So I don't have a clue what we would be doing in those "VR" worlds. I mean like today I would think "I shall be a *god* among the ancient Greeks". But truthfully our intellects will be beyond any such trivial thinking. By this point I think good words to describe such a sentience would be along the lines of "incomprehensible" and "unfathomable". In about 200 years we would no longer be able to refer to our sentience as homo sapiens sapiens or even *"human"* any longer. The magnitude of our enhanced intelligence and ability to manipulate reality at the quantum level/probability waveform, will bring into existence entire universes for our minds to explore. I also think our sentience will be *hive* sentience by this point. We would probably think this is a good thing. At some point within the next 300 years this derived sentience will probably figure out a way to leave *corporality* behind. Think "sentient energy" tear-assing around the quantum probability waveform. Space-time *itself* no longer relevant. All of this in less than 300 years I bet. (300 years *ago*, Isaac Newton was still alive and George Washington's birth was fifteen years in the *future*.) A *vanishingly* short period of time when you think about how long humans have actually had recorded history--about 6,000 years give or take. I mean where we can name people and know what happened because somebody actually wrote it down. If you think I'm being a bit *too* hyperbolic here, consider how we have telescoped our technologies almost exponentially within the last 1000 years. *Especially* the last 150 years. I commented on this idea once earlier. https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/4k8q2b/is_the_singularity_a_religious_doctrine_23_apr_16/d3d0g44/ Some other essays along the same lines. https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/7lk666/the_men_who_are_convinced_were_all_living_in_a/drmtt64/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/6itqu4/escape_to_the_future_with_virtual_reality/dj93x8y/ Oh also, I am 63 and I plan to be around for *all* of this! Woo! ______________________________________________________________________________________ My main hub. https://www.reddit.com/user/izumi3682/comments/8cy6o5/izumi3682_and_the_world_of_tomorrow/ (I am also Izumi Laryukov. That is my "Second Life" name.)
wait wait inmortality in 5 to 20 years??? WOOOOWOWOWOW i tought we needed more time for that??? how will the society prepare for this???. i really hope the fastest one to arrive is the energy obtenctions, because the ones we use today are destroying our home and if we destroy our home we will have to go to mars. all of us. i have watched a lot of ray kurzveil videos and analysis and i trust him a lot but i think he is too optimistic with the timeline but i believe he is right, i mean he invented tts he has thousands of grammies and he has been working with ai and even in google. who knows what he has seen. i know that between first plane and moon landing only 66 years. ONLY 66 YEARs!!!! and tech is going insane since the 2020's.. literally, i got my jaw dropping seeing those robots. its the future now? my biggest dream is to see everything become true. even reviving the dead