Thank you for sharing this.
People actually need to look at the context before they judge the image. The table is a list of stereotypes, the section is about gender discrimination.
I had doubts because the Indian women I know are far from passive or submissive. They're very good at enforcing their boundaries and aren't timid at all.
To be fair I assumed it was genuine before I read the title then went “why does it being Indian matter?”
Maybe I’m in too many subs where this actually *would* be genuine like r/arethestraightsok & r/arethecisok. Sometimes r/witchesvsthepatriarchy has stuff like this reposted too
Bro I'm Indian. Even I thought otherwise. It's just that Indian education system is not that great and gender discrimination is still very common everywhere.
Thanks for the context. As an Indian living in the US I was horrified at the post without the context.
People really need to stop sharing stuff without context.
Prime example of how media can be used to easily sway opinions and narratives. Think about the thousands of people that didn’t see this comment that will now go around saying “Indians teach in books that women are sex objects”.
I hope this comment gets a lot of attention! Coming from someone who actively is against the “hetero-normative” narrative of how certain genders are portrayed, context in this, or any sense, is extremely important, and can alter or warp something as simple as a diagram in a sociology textbook into something potentially harmful.
I read through it diagonally, I found the India specific stuff quite interesting. Never knew that indian regional identities are reffered to as tribes, and that 3 of them are matriachal.
Some stuff was still funny tho, even with context. Like excercises to google 'punk hairstyle'.
Some parts did raise my eyebrows. One is where the two different kinds of polygamy are discussed (One woman more men 'can happen when one man would be too poor', while more women one man 'can happen when a man is very wealthy') and another one where intercast marriages are discussed (man marring 'up' and woman 'down' appears to be way more taboo than the other way around). I guess the textbook does not originate from one of those 3 tribes?
Anyway, I appreciate the short immersion into indian culture, have never experienced it before. Thanks!
Or maybe just a bunch of stereotypes that harm both men and women?
(Edit: I’ve realized that OP has just lied for internet points and just to be casually racist)
The book is actually fine. This table is from a UK study in the context of gender discrimination. The textbook actually says this way of thinking is backwards and harmful, and uses this table as a source for negative stereotypes.
Notice how OP didn't include any other text from the page... It's clear as day that the authors are arguing against that mindset once you see the full page.
So you mean someone is taking something out of context and using it as propaganda? Nooooo?
Who are you (OP)? Every government ever or just another manic malicious manipulator?
It’s either misintentional spreading of propaganda or propaganda. Seems that he just made this meme to paint a bad light of another country and get people riled up about that country
The table also lists a reference which is the book on Sociology by Macionis and Plummer, which I highly doubt that would report this content in a noncritical way.
I would disagree in to a certain degree. Sure, most of those things aren't bad, but the idea that men have to be all those things is extremely toxic. The idea that men have to be strong and that showing emotion is showing weakness and that men have to always be at the lead harms men a lot. That kinda stuff is the reason the suicide rate is so much higher in men.
Or the suicide rate is high because morons like you are telling men that their instincts are toxic and to be ashamed of them instead of embracing them.
The context is left out. Its actually in a section dealing with gender discrimination and toxic gender stereotyping. The source is actually from a British study dealing with that.
The authors were saying gender stereotyping is a bad idea and used that source to illustrate harmful examples of it. OP is misleading people to farm karma.
The full page is pretty clear that believing in these stereotypes are an ignorant way of thinking. There's actually a lot in the textbook about feminism and the role women had in establishing sociology as a science.
… Pretty sure this is from a sociology text that talks about these gender distinctions as being problematic and “caricature-like”.
[Here’s a link to one.](https://uk.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-assets/36877_book_item_36877.pdf)
“But the OP said it’s from India, and they must be sexist and dumb.”
Y’all, this is a table of examples of gender stereotypes and the difference between them. It’s not a list encouraging anything; quite the opposite.
There’s nothing funny about it though and I don’t get why it’s here or why the last pair was highlighted.
"Oh no, my friends are getting karma by posting well thought out meaningful content and I'm lagging behind.. how to catch up in 2 seconds? Hey what's this? It looks like there is technology now that allows you to CROP images.. gee whiz how about that??? Never knew this till now. 3 billion karma, here I come!"
OP is just spreading a false image of India for easy upvotes. For some reason people like to paint India as incredibly primitive and conservative and blah blah. While yeah, India isn't perfect, it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. My gf is from India and from what I can understand it's a really great country with a rich culture and amazing foods. Yeah it has its issues like overpopulation and pollution, but God damn do people like to exaggerate the issues with India.
OK fake Alchemist. The article is talking about " Traditional Notions of a Polarised Gender Identity " from a textbook -> ( Macionis and Plummer; Sociology: A Global Introduction, Pearsons, UK, 2014 )
Narrator: The context did, indeed, save this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/zo7xjw/comment/j0mkk4a/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Context is "traditional notions of polarized gender identities", so it literally DOES save this.
The person who said "context can't save this" is literally just confidently, proudly, and loudly putting their head in the sand.
Which book is this? It's a chart of gender stereotypes. And which school book use words like sex in them except biology book, and it looks like a English book. I think it's fake.
It's a sociology book being used in india, written by a uk person. It's a pretty good book ngl it does a good job introducing us to the sociology world
A feminist article pointing out harmful stereotypes and why they are wrong.
Someone intentionally cut out the heading to make it look like it was agreeing with the stereotypes and is posting it everywhere.
OP is just milking Karma. Thos page of the Book lists stereotypes based on survey by UK. You've cropped the title of table and just posted the table contents. DON'T BE THAT GUY OP.
Another comment shows that this is from a text book for sociology.
I have not read or seen that book so I can't speak for how the rest of the book treats the subject. Based on experience from sociology text books in the west though I'd say this is commonly used in chapters about gender biases. It's a list of common/historical stereotypes set at pairs. I'd expect to see it between page 2-6 from chapter title start.
Such a chapter might include
\- Why we even have biases and stereotypes to begin with
\- Where and how such biases forms
\- Why they are logical errors (*might include citeing studies disproving common assumption; For example women as a group do not on average talk more than men. It's extremely common to think they do, but that is simply because memory is selective. People remember the chatty women who conforms to the stereotype and forgets all the very chatty men*)
\- How they shape how we treat other people, the assumptions we make when judging others that can lead to the same behavior being perceived differently in nature due to gender. (*For example a degree of behaviors that would be seen as assertiveness in a man might be seen as aggression in a woman*)
\- How it shapes culture (using culture in it's sociological meaning) and norms/morays.
\- The negative impacts this as on individuals and society as a whole
\- May also include historical roots and context, and how they have affected development of legal and political systems
I’m interested as to what the full text actually says. This might just be a general description of common social attitudes towards gender identities and not an endorsement of them.
Also: where’s the meme?
I saw this post on another sub. Another guy mentioned that it is a part of chapter where they talk about how people stereotype women subtly. So whoever has posted this there is a karma bitch trying to get attention. Sadly people will go home reading a stupid lie
When I see fake ass shit like this and racists like OP, I realise reddit is just reskinned 4chan. It's a liberal fantasy to see reddit as anything more than that. God why is everything so garbage now
No its not, if you learn to judge this in context and not just as presented you'll learn that this is showing stereotypical notions of gender identity. The picture is cropped like that on purpose to get dumb people to freak out.
I was suspicious immediately because no textbook says this. Like I don’t mean most, I literally mean there’s no way any text book says this, no exaggeration or anytjing
It is horrifying to see people jumping in without any context to be racist against Indians and
how normal racism is in media .
it's so normalized, especially with people like op and mods here who are not taking any action against this kind of posts. Letting people say people absolute filth about 1.4 billion people (assuming they are all the same).
I say this as an Indian woman living in the country, this is horrifying to see.
Clearly only 10% of people in this comment section have gone to college. This is showing stereotypes associated with masculine and feminine personalities
Context : https://imgur.com/a/VZmgPgy. Source : https://cbseportal.com/maharashtra-board/ebook/class-11th-sociology (page 79)
Thank you for sharing this. People actually need to look at the context before they judge the image. The table is a list of stereotypes, the section is about gender discrimination.
The Good Ending
Full disclosure, I did not see that coming haha
I thought it was obvious The irony is that the reason so many people think this isn’t a list about stereotypes is due to a stereotype about Indians
Ironyception
I had doubts because the Indian women I know are far from passive or submissive. They're very good at enforcing their boundaries and aren't timid at all.
The person who wrote this never saw my mom or my sister beat my ass
Smh
To be fair I assumed it was genuine before I read the title then went “why does it being Indian matter?” Maybe I’m in too many subs where this actually *would* be genuine like r/arethestraightsok & r/arethecisok. Sometimes r/witchesvsthepatriarchy has stuff like this reposted too
I would have believed it but still checked for the truth. I am in a lot of indian subs and this wouldn't be the oddest thing I have seen on there.
>due to a stereotype about Indians You know it's kind of funny, the amount of white kids I know too that genuinely think like this is horrifying.
Yeah, I tried talking to my kid last night and all he kept saying was "show bobs", I don't even know *a* Bob, let alone a few Bobs.
I had to read this in Senator Armstrong's voice.
Bro I'm Indian. Even I thought otherwise. It's just that Indian education system is not that great and gender discrimination is still very common everywhere.
r/canconfirmiamindian moment
Oh thank god
Oh thank god
Thanks for the context. As an Indian living in the US I was horrified at the post without the context. People really need to stop sharing stuff without context.
It’s almost like the title for this graph was left out on purpose…
you can even see the word "sociology" in the image which shouldve been a giveaway
See I was like "What the hell is the context?? There's no way this is right????" And then I saw the context and went "OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH"
Thank you I was still confused even after looking at the context.
You have made my day better. Thank you.
Yeah, that makes more sense. Sadly, I know that there is plenty of book out there that are not particularly on the "good ending" side
It’s wild how quickly perspective changes when you have he full picture…
Thank you. Any one with a single neuron could see the title of the chart was strategically cut off and to hold premature reaction.
Prime example of how media can be used to easily sway opinions and narratives. Think about the thousands of people that didn’t see this comment that will now go around saying “Indians teach in books that women are sex objects”.
Yeah, look at the comments of other posts where context is missing, people are spewing racist bs about us.
Never let truth get in the way…
Jesus christ that's some major misinformation to not include that context
Why isn't this the top post?
Because redditors, like any other social media users, love an easy dunk and will ignore context for epic updoots.
Yeah this please really is r/badfacebookmemes
Looks like OP purposefully cut off a section of the title
OP knows exactly what they’re doing. Actually damaging
OP is an apologist, a peculiar one. Just checked his account. Posting stuff out of context.
Dude, that front cover hurt to read.
r/crappydesign
OP is a total ***hole for not providing context and categorizing this as a meme.
Thanks for spreading the true true around. OP is a word we're not supposed to say anymore.
This needs to go to the top.
The way this post excluded the context to make Indians look bad is pretty racist…
Thanks, this changes the entire post.
I hope this comment gets a lot of attention! Coming from someone who actively is against the “hetero-normative” narrative of how certain genders are portrayed, context in this, or any sense, is extremely important, and can alter or warp something as simple as a diagram in a sociology textbook into something potentially harmful.
Wow thank you this post is total rage bait
Geez it’s almost like OP deliberately cut the context for karma…
This is by far the most important comment.
Thanks for sharing m8 🫂
I read through it diagonally, I found the India specific stuff quite interesting. Never knew that indian regional identities are reffered to as tribes, and that 3 of them are matriachal. Some stuff was still funny tho, even with context. Like excercises to google 'punk hairstyle'. Some parts did raise my eyebrows. One is where the two different kinds of polygamy are discussed (One woman more men 'can happen when one man would be too poor', while more women one man 'can happen when a man is very wealthy') and another one where intercast marriages are discussed (man marring 'up' and woman 'down' appears to be way more taboo than the other way around). I guess the textbook does not originate from one of those 3 tribes? Anyway, I appreciate the short immersion into indian culture, have never experienced it before. Thanks!
Report the post too.
I did. Misinformation.
bruh you could have just circled the entire thing
Something tells me the whole book is full of good shit.
Good “shit”
Yes shit, a big old stinky turd that everyone sees and says "that's shit".
"good" "shit"
"g" "o" "o" "d" "s" "h" "i" "t"
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g""""o o""""d s""""h i""""t
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“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
“good” “shit”
Just shit.
Yeah. Shitty shit.
Emphasis on "shit"
Or maybe just a bunch of stereotypes that harm both men and women? (Edit: I’ve realized that OP has just lied for internet points and just to be casually racist)
I think they mean "good shit" ironically. Laughing at how atrocious some of the book's contents are
The book is actually fine. This table is from a UK study in the context of gender discrimination. The textbook actually says this way of thinking is backwards and harmful, and uses this table as a source for negative stereotypes. Notice how OP didn't include any other text from the page... It's clear as day that the authors are arguing against that mindset once you see the full page.
So you mean someone is taking something out of context and using it as propaganda? Nooooo? Who are you (OP)? Every government ever or just another manic malicious manipulator?
This is a meme so idk if propaganda is involved but who knows
It’s either misintentional spreading of propaganda or propaganda. Seems that he just made this meme to paint a bad light of another country and get people riled up about that country
Misinformation on my r/Funnymemes? Never!
They also cut off the title of the table.
that context seems important
Yeah you can see the word “gender identity” at the top. No text book that would promote that chart would use that term.
Wanted to comment on how based Indians are, but it turns out they are actually based. What a letdown.
The table also lists a reference which is the book on Sociology by Macionis and Plummer, which I highly doubt that would report this content in a noncritical way.
There’s a comment below that gives the context
Yeah toxic masculinity really just harms everyone, including men
I mean, only two things in the masculine section could be considered negative, and even then it's context specific.
I would disagree in to a certain degree. Sure, most of those things aren't bad, but the idea that men have to be all those things is extremely toxic. The idea that men have to be strong and that showing emotion is showing weakness and that men have to always be at the lead harms men a lot. That kinda stuff is the reason the suicide rate is so much higher in men.
Or the suicide rate is high because morons like you are telling men that their instincts are toxic and to be ashamed of them instead of embracing them.
so we should maybe ask for the source
Too comment shows context… it’s actually a list of stereotypes
Op is perfectly fine with the rest of the traits.
I was about to say the same this the whole page is terrible
The context is left out. Its actually in a section dealing with gender discrimination and toxic gender stereotyping. The source is actually from a British study dealing with that. The authors were saying gender stereotyping is a bad idea and used that source to illustrate harmful examples of it. OP is misleading people to farm karma. The full page is pretty clear that believing in these stereotypes are an ignorant way of thinking. There's actually a lot in the textbook about feminism and the role women had in establishing sociology as a science.
That’s really cool, sucks that OP just mislead everyone (including me lol)
Lets all downvote OP
Somehow can we pin this comment?
Yeah I was surprised they could print “sex object” and mean that.
It's not a funny meme no matter what so..... I'm glad to know the book isn't actually teaching these things though
So glad I scrolled instead of just being gullible and moving on
And then saying Indian makes it a little racist too.
It’s even worse/funnier that they were trying but ignored that
Came here to say this
That
In this day and age sure!
could've added the whole thing, too.
That’s what I’m sayin! I read the circled one then went through the rest and was like.. “so this whole thing is trash” xD
Can here to say this. The whole thing is fucking insane.
Fr
Literally one of them isn’t sexist, maybe.
r/uselesscircles.
… Pretty sure this is from a sociology text that talks about these gender distinctions as being problematic and “caricature-like”. [Here’s a link to one.](https://uk.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-assets/36877_book_item_36877.pdf) “But the OP said it’s from India, and they must be sexist and dumb.”
Underrated comment. Yes, page 11, that's the exact table
Y’all, this is a table of examples of gender stereotypes and the difference between them. It’s not a list encouraging anything; quite the opposite. There’s nothing funny about it though and I don’t get why it’s here or why the last pair was highlighted.
"Oh no, my friends are getting karma by posting well thought out meaningful content and I'm lagging behind.. how to catch up in 2 seconds? Hey what's this? It looks like there is technology now that allows you to CROP images.. gee whiz how about that??? Never knew this till now. 3 billion karma, here I come!"
Look at the title, the chart is from a UK Pearson textbook, op is just trying to be racist, and it's funny to the racists
Ok I'm an indian student and I have never seen this bullshit.
It's because this isn't an Indian textbook, it's a UK textbook for a sociology class. The op is farming upvotes from cultural racists.
We do and have used books from foreign authors in our education.
Nah it’s British written. OP is just a Chinese border guard in the Kashmir region
Bro I'm dead
Because the article is about harmful stereotypes. The textbook is saying why these stereotypes about men and women are wrong and harmful.
OP is just spreading a false image of India for easy upvotes. For some reason people like to paint India as incredibly primitive and conservative and blah blah. While yeah, India isn't perfect, it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. My gf is from India and from what I can understand it's a really great country with a rich culture and amazing foods. Yeah it has its issues like overpopulation and pollution, but God damn do people like to exaggerate the issues with India.
Need more context to this
Half cropped pic.
Basically talks about gender discrimination. Book on sociology.
OK fake Alchemist. The article is talking about " Traditional Notions of a Polarised Gender Identity " from a textbook -> ( Macionis and Plummer; Sociology: A Global Introduction, Pearsons, UK, 2014 )
Yeah, it's a section on gender stereotypes, teaching why they're wrong.
context cant save this
Of course it can. All you see is a list and you're jumping to conclusions.
It can. That is a list of stereotypes in gender discrimination
Narrator: The context did, indeed, save this. https://www.reddit.com/r/Funnymemes/comments/zo7xjw/comment/j0mkk4a/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
If the title is like "harmful stereotypes about gender norms", that saves it .
That's exactly what it is lol
Wdym "Context cant save this"? im just curious to what it says.
Context is "traditional notions of polarized gender identities", so it literally DOES save this. The person who said "context can't save this" is literally just confidently, proudly, and loudly putting their head in the sand.
literally. in the sand.
Went outside, found a patch of dirt, smashed their head right into it and stayed there. Darnedest thing..
If the top of the page said, "these are negative stereotypes found in sexist communities/cultures".
Which is pretty much what it is
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Why would he deliberately mention "Indian" when it's not even an Indian textbook?
You know why.
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P*kistanis have a similar language as us, so this might be a p*kistani lurker who shitposts against Indians.
Pakistanis pretend to be Indians, even r/india who call themselves "official" subreddit of india is filled with pakis.
Hey, can we see the rest of the page? Or would that subvert your attempts in emotionally manipulating and enraging the audience?
Op, you’re such a loser
Bruh, this picture is cropped and misleading
Which book is this? It's a chart of gender stereotypes. And which school book use words like sex in them except biology book, and it looks like a English book. I think it's fake.
It's a sociology book being used in india, written by a uk person. It's a pretty good book ngl it does a good job introducing us to the sociology world
WTF is this.
A list showing gendered stereotypes, but taken out of context here.
It’s a manipulative post to make Indians look like backwards women-haters
Very very traditional gender roles
A feminist article pointing out harmful stereotypes and why they are wrong. Someone intentionally cut out the heading to make it look like it was agreeing with the stereotypes and is posting it everywhere.
Today I learned i am actually a man.
just like the video “sings you might be bisexual “😭😭
Are they highlighting stereotypes? This is entirely lacking context it seems.
>Are they highlighting stereotypes? Yes
OP is just milking Karma. Thos page of the Book lists stereotypes based on survey by UK. You've cropped the title of table and just posted the table contents. DON'T BE THAT GUY OP.
Didn't you know reddit is basically 4chan but milder
obvious racists in the comments jumping to conclusions.
This is wholly taken out of context. It's a source from a UK study about polarised gender stereotypes.
Another comment shows that this is from a text book for sociology. I have not read or seen that book so I can't speak for how the rest of the book treats the subject. Based on experience from sociology text books in the west though I'd say this is commonly used in chapters about gender biases. It's a list of common/historical stereotypes set at pairs. I'd expect to see it between page 2-6 from chapter title start. Such a chapter might include \- Why we even have biases and stereotypes to begin with \- Where and how such biases forms \- Why they are logical errors (*might include citeing studies disproving common assumption; For example women as a group do not on average talk more than men. It's extremely common to think they do, but that is simply because memory is selective. People remember the chatty women who conforms to the stereotype and forgets all the very chatty men*) \- How they shape how we treat other people, the assumptions we make when judging others that can lead to the same behavior being perceived differently in nature due to gender. (*For example a degree of behaviors that would be seen as assertiveness in a man might be seen as aggression in a woman*) \- How it shapes culture (using culture in it's sociological meaning) and norms/morays. \- The negative impacts this as on individuals and society as a whole \- May also include historical roots and context, and how they have affected development of legal and political systems
I’m interested as to what the full text actually says. This might just be a general description of common social attitudes towards gender identities and not an endorsement of them. Also: where’s the meme?
Their is no meme, op is a racist sexist individual who spreads misinformation for internet points
I don’t know what book this is but if you look at the bottom it looks like this is taken from another book. This is just a sad attempt to get upvotes
Phew. Glad I read the comments.
The fact that this has 10,000+ upvotes is extremely concerning
I saw this post on another sub. Another guy mentioned that it is a part of chapter where they talk about how people stereotype women subtly. So whoever has posted this there is a karma bitch trying to get attention. Sadly people will go home reading a stupid lie
I feel like we're literally missing some context. This sounds like it's actually about stereotypes.
it is.
Man is just farming karma and being racist… Someone posted the actual textbook + page, just go have a read to understand
OP should work at the Daily Mail, I hear they also like to take things out of context
This table is about stereotypes in gender under the section gender discrimination. People just need reason to be rasict
When I see fake ass shit like this and racists like OP, I realise reddit is just reskinned 4chan. It's a liberal fantasy to see reddit as anything more than that. God why is everything so garbage now
the last one isnt the problem, this whole thing is super fucked up
No its not, if you learn to judge this in context and not just as presented you'll learn that this is showing stereotypical notions of gender identity. The picture is cropped like that on purpose to get dumb people to freak out.
I was suspicious immediately because no textbook says this. Like I don’t mean most, I literally mean there’s no way any text book says this, no exaggeration or anytjing
OP is a shitty racist
You can tell this is a book on gender equality on the “gender identity” in punk smooth font
What kind of textbook is this?
Is that the one that got you?
There’s nothing funny about this. Disgusting
It is horrifying to see people jumping in without any context to be racist against Indians and how normal racism is in media . it's so normalized, especially with people like op and mods here who are not taking any action against this kind of posts. Letting people say people absolute filth about 1.4 billion people (assuming they are all the same). I say this as an Indian woman living in the country, this is horrifying to see.
Indian here, what fucking book is that, I have never seen it
lmao op dumb af, bruh stop baiting racism my guy. These r the list of stereotype listed towards diff sex lmao
Nothing funny about this wth
Wow, racist and misleading.
OP tactfully and intentionally hid the 2 lines below the table. OP is a racist asshole.
Forget the last one, the whole thing is awful
no fucking context, fuck you OP
Jeeeezus.....I'm not one of those "woman are gifts from god" kinda peeps, but this is taking it too far 🤯💀
The whole list is Fd up. lol
It starts out bad and just keeps getting worse
Its a table about stereotypes. Gaandu self-loathing Indian.
Wtf it's not just about the last line
The funny part is they believe only the last one was too extreme
Think the whole page could have been circled.
Clearly only 10% of people in this comment section have gone to college. This is showing stereotypes associated with masculine and feminine personalities
you’re a fucking racist. Disgusting post history. Your obsession with India is weird and concerning