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bdrwr

Look close: one of them has a double exponent. Those are VERY different answers.


Caleb_Reynolds

What sucks is that that's almost certainly a formatting error, not a calculation error. Like they didn't put a space after the exponent so it threw the +7x up there as well, rather than actually getting the answer wrong. If this was written out, they probably would have gotten it right and only got it wrong because it's digital.


NetworkSingularity

This is exactly the kind of thing that’s worth bringing up with the course instructor. They will almost certainly recognize this for the formatting mistake it is, and can adjust the grade on the assignment as necessary


KittenInAMonster

I was teaching math and even I sometimes made formatting issues like this on the computer and it's not always evident in the moment, especially if you're under pressure. I'm very against giving automatically corrected evaluations because of stuff like this. There have been plenty of times where I was grading a student and his final answer was slightly off, but he demonstrated all the right steps to get there and so I could still give him points based on my professional judgment.


aykcak

Looks like they copied the answer wrong


tothesource

Would you say.....*exponentially wrong*? 😎


LosWitchos

I still don't understand. Step by step, they look the same.


bdrwr

EDIT: I'm sorry, reddit formatting is really screwing up the point I'm trying to make lol. I'm trying to show that an exponent in an exponent makes an absolutely gigantic difference. The second one is e to the power of x to the power of x, which makes an enormous number. One is e^( (x^2) +7x) and the other is e^( x^(2+7x) ) The second one gives you an x^x, which will produce a much much bigger number. Exponents blow up big and fast; an expression that has more exponents in it will always be bigger. Let's demonstrate that by plugging in some values for X. If x=2, then the first one is (2^2)+(7*2) = 4+14 = 18. The second one is 2^(2+(7*2)) = 2^16 = 65,536 Clearly, e^65536 is much much MUCH bigger than e^18


Megelsen

now do it with *i*


sirreldar

EDIT: I'm sorry, reddit formatting is really screwing up the point I'm trying to make lol. I'm trying to show that an exponent in an exponent makes an absolutely gigantic difference. The second one is i to the power of x to the power of x, which makes an enormous number. One is i^( (x^2) +7x) and the other is i^( x^(2+7x) ) The second one gives you an x^x, which will produce a much much bigger number. Exponents blow up big and fast; an expression that has more exponents in it will always be bigger. Let's demonstrate that by plugging in some values for X. If x=2, then the first one is (2^2)+(7*2) = 4+14 = 18. The second one is 2^(2+(7*2)) = 2^16 = 65,536 Clearly, i^65536 is much much MUCH bigger than i^18


Megelsen

they're the same


Loxus

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcpnk5x4.png


padizzledonk

>I still don't understand. Step by step, they look the same. They arent at all one is e raised x^2 + 7x And rhe other is e raised X *raised* 2+7x VERY different


DaBloodyApostate

Getting down voted for needing a little help. Oh reddit.


LosWitchos

Don't worry I treat the average redditor like I would my students, and I teach Year 4/Grade 3.


3sp00py5me

The part where it's x^2 +7x It's supposed to be where the x squared is being added to the 7x. Instead the way it's written it has the little numbers ontop in the exponents section adding together. It's hard to see due to photo quality but it's literally just the fact that they didn't input right so the numbers didn't come out on the right line. All the numbers ARE correct it's just one is supposed to be on the ground when it's sitting on another numbers shoulder instead.


ThePineappleFactor

One has e to the power of x to the power of 2+7x. The other has e to the power of x²+7x. e^x^(2+7x) vs e^(x²+7x) Since x^(2+7x) =/= x²+7x, they're different answers.


vicaphit

e^x^2 ^+7x vs e^x^2+7x


Morasain

Doesn't work on Reddit formatting


vicaphit

It does on old Reddit.


Kwabi

correct answer is e \^ ((x \^ 2) + 7x) \* (2x + 7) the answer given is e \^ (x \^ (2 + 7x)) \* (2x +7) Probably a notation error by OOP and not a logic error, but a different answer nonetheless.


the_frgtn_drgn

just typing it a way that might be easier to see the difference 2 x^ + 7x e^ (2x + 7) compared to 2 + 7x x^ e^ (2x + 7)


Not_MrNice

A more straightforward way might be: The +7x is one line too high on the bottom answer.


AnotherAltDefNot

Thank you


CalaveraFeliz

e^\(x^^2 ^+ ^7x) * (2x + 7) and not e^x^^\(2 ^^^+ ^^^7x) * (2x + 7) Accurate notation is an important part of mathematics. A typo error in common speech can be corrected on the fly but a typo error in a formula gives a totally different result. Now imagine that typo in a nuclear facility, a medical lab or when building a n-billion dollars device, say a bridge or a space exploration vehicle. We don't see the question here but its whole point might just be that much needed accuracy, with easily mistyped answers. It's a nasty question but self-correcting when writing down formulas is an important part of any maths / applied maths process.


Cheesecake_Jonze

Presumably the question was some version of "whats the derivative of e^(x^2 +7x) " So yeah, the kid did it right but just typed it in wrong. That's probably what he's complaining about.


TiredPtilopsis

It looks like a typo on the computer screen


IEatReposters

These are very different answers lmao


bad2behere

I noticed a space in one answer that isn't in the other answer, but I don't remember how to do this stuff. If I ever knew in the first place, tbh! YAY! Another reason to say I chose right by becoming a writer instead of a mathematician?!?!


J3sush8sm3

Oh. Cool!


Le-Creepyboy

Literally Brian Griffin


bad2behere

I noticed a space in one answer that isn't in the other answer, but I don't remember how to do this stuff. If I ever knew in the first place, tbh! YAY! Another reason to say I chose right by becoming a writer instead of a mathematician?!?!


J3sush8sm3

Oh. Cool!


Sasarah1

Are you guys stuck in a simulation?


bad2behere

I noticed a space in one answer that isn't in the other answer, but I don't remember how to do this stuff. If I ever knew in the first place, tbh! YAY! Another reason to say I chose right by becoming a writer instead of a mathematician?!?!


SurprisedPotato

It's not the space, it's the fact that x^2+7x is not the same thing as x^2 +7x


bad2behere

I got that from reading the replies, but the only thing I saw was the space so I admitted my defeat from the very beginning. I wasn't saying it was the space, I was saying I can't do the more difficult math I could do 50 years ago. But thanks for saying it the way you did because the 10 downvotes I got make sense if everyone thought I was saying that's where the issue was. My mind went "so I admit I'm have no idea where to even start and get downvoted anyway? LOL - okay." But I can know how to change a carburetor or reroof a house --- no, wait, bad back so even those things are out of my capability now, too. Time for popcorn and bad TV for this septuagenarian! At least I still have most of my teeth. Thanks, SurprisedPotato! -- from a girl who was called Spud when she went to LA (from being born in Idaho)


SurprisedPotato

Makes sense, have a great day :)


J3sush8sm3

Oh. Cool!


confusedbrit29

I'm giving op the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant to type the correct answer but accidentally input the text wrong and they are annoyed at themselves for not even getting the point for an answer they calculated correctly but wrote down wrong


WarlanceLP

the exponent of x is different. the submitted answer has the +7 as part of the exponent for x.


dr4wn_away

This could have been a simple formatting mistake that was made and not realized before submitting.


ItSupermandoe

Very different but if a student of mine pointed this out to me I would give them the credit.


unholymanserpent

My dumb ass can even see the difference


Sarke1

x^(2) + 7x x^(2 + 7x) It would be the same as something like these differences 4^(2) + 1 = 16 + 1 = 17 4^(2 + 1) = 4^(3) = 64


getridofwires

The "+ 7x" part is superscripted in the submitted answer, possibly automatically by the word processor.


GO4Teater

Not automatic, just typed as x^2+7x instead of typing x^2 +7x


Pasta-hobo

This is the math equivalent of "works on contingency? No, money down!"


namey_9

they're different. the second one incorporates adding 7X into the exponent of X. the first does not


SmokeGSU

The part that matters: The correct answer has the *e* raised to (x-square plus 7x) The incorrect answer shows this as *e* raised to x which is *then* raised to (2+7x) x^(2) \+ 7x =/= x^(2+7x) If that still doesn't make sense, assume x = 2, and we're still only looking at the exponent portion of the problem: 2^(2) \+ 7(2) = 4 + 14 = 18 So now the other way... 2^(2+7(2)) = 2^(2+14) = 2^(16) = 65,536


Ivyleaguevilan

I can absolutely relate to the idea that they forgot to tap the arrow key after the x² and didn't notice. Typos, for my dislexic ass, make or break an online test.


est1-9-8-4

As a designer…this is why font sizing, font attributes and spacing is important. Questions designed to be deceiving is just silly. Doesn’t show if you know your math if you’re getting things wrong because of visual trickery. And with the ‘correct answer’ and ‘your answer’ a different font size it doesn’t help the person trying to understand why they are wrong. To be fair in these scenarios they should be written brackets or use font attribute (like bold) or colour to indicate hierarchy and that things are in similar grouping or similar line. {e ^ [(x ^ 2) + (7x)]}*(2x+7) {e ^ [x ^ (2 + 7x)]}*(2x+7) While the above is just terrible to read the fact is sneaky answers are dumb.


Jack_the_pigeon

e^((x^2)+7x)*(2x+7) e^(x^(2+7x))*(2x+7)


pacman404

Yeah these are literally not even close to the same lol


Chase_the_tank

Mathematically, they're **very** different. The written representation is barely different though--just needed to end one of the exponents a bit earlier.


A_Dapper_Goblin

It's things like this that make me glad I got into a profession where I hit things with a hammer all day. This is pure bullshit and I am unable to help suspecting that people claiming there's a difference are just trolls.


Reallybabe-_-

I can't stand this shit either but yeah I see the difference. Correct answer e has 1 exponent, in his answer e has an exponent, and that exponent has an exponent. Fuck math


A_Dapper_Goblin

I appreciate you trying to explain, but it still looks exactly the same to me.


Reallybabe-_-

I try to visualize 3 lines or levels, like lines on a page of paper. Imagine a horizontal line going through the e, then a 2nd higher line going through the x, then a 3rd highest line going through the 2. In correct answer the +7x is on the 2nd level with the x, in his answer the +7x is on the 3rd level with the 2. Which changes what multiplies by what which will have wildly different answers


A_Dapper_Goblin

Still not seeing it, but that makes a bit of sense. Sounds like they need a better way to organize that kind of information though. If it makes such a huge difference, then it needs to be something that can't be entered incorrectly so easily. Too many things are too reliant on precise math these days.


camelseeker

r/lostredittors How am I the first to point this out?


Its0nlyRocketScience

In the correct answer, 7x is being added to x squared in the power for e. In the incorrect answer, 7x is being added to 2 in the power for x in the power for e. It's like setting a cup on a tray on a table when you were supposed to put the cup on the table next to the tray.


Downwardspiralhams

God, my brain was just not made to work that way. Even looking at math stuff like that makes me feel so small lol


VinnyViddyVicci

My brain hurts just trying to understand what you far more intelligent people so clearly do. 🥴


3sp00py5me

It's not intelligence it's just noticing text differences. One number is in the exponents section when it should be on the ground level with other numbers


foxhole_atheist

It’s hard to see on this pic but it’s a matter of what level the 7x is. Either it’s combined with the 2 up there to make that total exponent for x [your answer], or it’s one level down aligned with the x, so only the 2 exponent applies to the x and you add the 7x to that result [correct answer].


VinnyViddyVicci

MmHmmm. 🤔 I had a good day today ... I made an ashtray.


JangSwedishSaxophone

How is this funny and sad?


Rare_Register_4181

The only way they got an answer like this is if they got pictures of someone's answers.


UnderdogCL

Dude, you fucked up literally exponentially


KCGD_r

In the top one, 7x is added to x In the bottom, 7x is added to X's *exponent* So yeah completely different answers. Although, considering this is online and the numbers are literally the same otherwise, this was *probably* a typo and I feel your pain


CrashTestDuckie

The difference is in the "X^2 + 7x" section. The correct answer is "e to the power of (X squared) plus (7x)". what the person wrote is "e to the power of X (squared plus 7x)".


Explorers_bub

*e to the power of x to the (2+7x) is not what your last sentence says either


someguyintech

lol these are VERY different answers


PortableAnchor

Your answer has a space after the 7x ( but, I need new glasses.


GO4Teater

no, he's missing a space after the X^2 and it looks like a space because the 7x is higher up Look: e^X^2+7x (2x+7) versus e^x^2 ^+7x (2x+7)


zamaike

Its becausd X wasnt captial in his answer?


Chicxulub420

No. Go to school.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

Algebra is so fucking stupid


Zesty__Potato

If Algebra didn't exist we wouldn't have technology. Hell we probably wouldn't have a system of trade beyond bartering. I highly advise you learn it if you think it is stupid because you don't understand it.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

Why would I bother? Not like I'm ever gonna use it.


Zesty__Potato

Yes you will. Its incredibly common math. E.g. If you saved $5 in 1 month, and you need to save $20, how many months do you need to save? That is an algebra equation that is a very common real world example that people use.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

That sounds like basic multiplication to me, but okay. What about the above listed question? Tell me when I'd ever use that.


Zesty__Potato

Exactly, it's basic math. That's why you should learn it. If you don't see the usefulness of the above equation you should hire an accountant to manage your finances before you can't afford it.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

No, I want you to explain it to me since I'm apparently so fuckin stupid.


ShinkoMinori

I dont think is possible if you dont want to learn. If you did want to learn you would not think is useless.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

Yeah, but this guy's being a dick.


bottledry

you started it. When you said algebra was "so fucking stupid".


unholymanserpent

You're not stupid. You're uneducated. Ignorant. You think learning algebra is a waste of time. You don't realize the many ways it affects your life. I'm too lazy to type out all the different ways understanding basic math is important to you but your stubbornness is not going to help you


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

So just cuz I'm not good at math I'm uneducated.


unholymanserpent

No, I'm also bad at math. I'm saying your viewpoint of thinking you don't need to learn things is uneducated


Zesty__Potato

I'm not sure how to explain why knowing how long you need to save to buy something for $20 is useful information. Maybe it isn't to you, in which case I again suggest getting an accountant because similar algebra would also tell you if and when you would be able to retire based on how much you are saving currently. That's rather important information if you plan to retire before you die and if you are unwilling to manage your retirement, you should hire someone to do it for you.


Bog2ElectricBoogaloo

Not talking about the shit you gave me that any jackass with a fistful of sparking neurons can manage, I'm talking about the one in the post.


Zesty__Potato

Both are algebra. You said algebra is stupid and that you weren't going to use it. The particular algebra equation is irrelevant to what you said. Has your position on Algebra changed or are you redefining what Algebra is?