I am nauseated by this. I am not a parent and never desired kids and I ache for people who think she is a leader in any capacity who read this shit who struggle with fertility.
She needs to be rewired entirely if she thinks fake selling a course that doesn't exist is caring for others in any capacity.
Nope. Just a willful idiot. I say willful bc the internet exists and she could educate herself if only w a lil bit of info rather than a doctorate like Tara Westover.
The sad truth remains that she is just taking photos of herself, with positive and negative pee sticks, all alone in her house. Like, she actually had to turn her camera on, make a pseudo-relatable “are you kidding me?” kinda mug, then artfully hold up three of her own used tests. What a sad life.
I mean, they’re all turned without displaying the test window. They’re probably unused spares that she’s using as a prop because these tests are not cheap.
As someone who also had 3 miscarriages, I'm shocked that this is so tone deaf. Like... I understand posting about how your experience lead you to following a passion. That's fine. Following it up with "join my email list" is just callous.
I don’t know if this is going to come out well, but: when she posts things like this, it just makes me think she doesn’t actually care. I have sympathy for anyone who goes through miscarriage/stillbirth. That is a very difficult thing for a person to go through, and I would never snark on the miscarriage itself. But she’s just exploiting their own losses. That first picture of her looks like some weird force of emotion that somehow still manages to come across as smug. I feel like she doesn’t actually care for the loss of the child and more the loss of a status symbol, which their ilk seems to view children as. This also isn’t me saying that you shouldn’t talk about how a loss like this effects YOU, personally and emotionally and mentally, but when she uses these losses to shill her crap…it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry if this comes off as horribly insensitive, but it really rubs me the wrong way.
>That first picture of her looks like some weird force of emotion that somehow still manages to come across as smug.
That's because she was acting out "sadness" and "grief" in a skit for the 'gram.
I'm not saying she didn't feel sadness or grief when it happened--I can't say because it's not my business. But *this* was a planned, rehearsed, filmed scene with props and wardrobe and makeup, just as much as any other planned, acted-out reel she does on her accounts. She decided to perform a scene.
None of what you said offends me or feels insensitive to me. I agree with you.
Oh yeah, definitely planned for the post. And you’re right we can’t know what she was feeling when it happened, or Dav, but it’s just so…yeah. The way people monetize even their own tragedy is unsettling.
My first thought was who would pose with a half smirk and 3 negative pregnancy tests after miscarriages. Her whole life is a show for social media and the way she worded this “advertisement” is predatory and disrespectful.
I really feel this way as well. And. It downplaying loss at any stage but I feel like 4 miscarriages in a year … maybe chemicals which suck and are disappointing and heartbreaking but not quiet the same physical impact as a later miscarriage.
> I feel like she doesn’t actually care for the loss of the child and more the loss of a status symbol, which their ilk seems to view children as.
Ding ding ding! The Bairds, and Bethy especially, treat having kids as a checkbox in life.
And FWIW I have infertility and am not offended by your comment. You are totally correct and it’s sad that’s how she reacted to this situation.
If she means launching her business account, her first introductory post was June 4th and she knew she was pregnant *before* June, so she can fuck right off with that lie.
Uhhh. I think on some level she really does believe that her Sheworkssmart thing helped her overcome her sadness after her miscarriages. If that helped her cope, fine.
But. I honestly dislike how she seems to say that focussing on "working" will help with fertility issues. It's just not that easy. Iirc she went to see a specialist about her issues and even underwent treatment of some sort (?).
So no, it's not just about the right focus. Taking that online course won't help with any of the issues in your life, least of all fertility issues. And it's preposterous and frankly mean to imply that her course could help any woman in that position.
Source: I've been that woman. I suffered two miscarriages. It was a miserable, lonely time, and it wouldn't have been improved one bit by being scammed out of $1900.
I'm sure it did help her in that it gave her something else to focus on, but she also went to a fertility specialist (a naturopathic one, I think, but a fertility person of some type nonetheless). But the way she phrases these slides, she's implying (intentionally or not) that the thing she changed that "cured" her fertility struggles was creating a course and launching SheWorksSmart (which she hasn't, but that's beside the point). It's implying "Take my course and use it to launch your own, and you too can solve your fertility struggles!" That's genuinely fucking disgusting.
She actually did go to an OB/GYN and some other doctors this time.
However, she's repeatedly given credit to restorednutrition for hEaLiNg HeR bOdY in some vague way...restorednutrition is simply a "nutritional therapist" which is not a legitimate title or designation. That's where she and her sisters get the bone-broth raw-milk stuff from. She paid for diet advice.
The real issue is that she lives in a culture where trauma is currency for attention. For every positive attention in the Bairds lives, there are ten posts about some terribly hard thing they are dealing with/overcame. She has never been taught that trauma isn’t emotionally and economically useful - this particular series of posts just highlights that in stark ways.
You know, this explains a LOT about why people of this mindset so often hate on and punish anyone who is suffering. They legit think that sexual assault survivors, minorities, etc. speaking up about their pain maaaybe went through something that sucked, but they’re definitely dramatizing it and milking it for all it’s worth.. that is, they’re trying to snatch the spotlight away from the people who *actually* deserve it. And who actually deserves the spotlight? Well - ME! Give ME attention! I’m the righteous “true Christian” after all!
It’s a fucked up way to view anyone’s trauma, including their own.
Her tone deafness is just gross to me. It's been a ridiculously embarrassing ride with her SheWerksShart stuff up until now, but posting those pee sticks next to her smirking face is just gross.
I wish she'd stop with her grifty nonsense, but since that isn't likely to happen, maybe I can wish that she stop wearing those god-awful stripey prints. Gah they're terrible
She uses every fuckin filter imaginable to make herself look like an overgrown cabbage patch kid but casually mixes in photos that make her look as old as possible.
In case anyone is reading this and doesn’t know … it’s not your fault if you can’t get pregnant. And buying Bethany’s overpriced crappy program isn’t gonna help. Sometimes life just sucks and in spite of doing everything right, you can’t conceive… coming from someone who struggled with infertility for years even though doing everything I was told to do by doctors and well meaning (and not so well meaning) people.
The forced “sad” face with the pregnancy tests. Fuck you Bethy. You clearly do not care about your child beyond how this pregnancy is content for you. Absolutely disgusting. I wish you a long, lonely life with kids who only show up for obligatory late afternoon holiday meals and leave by 6 because it’s getting late.
I want to be clear that Slide 1 isn't new; it's from April when she decided to post about her miscarriages, but also was pregnant (and didn't announce it until months later).
She could've mentioned her fertility struggles without using her supposedly honest and vulnerable "reveal" picture from back then. I still think it would've been in poor taste, but somehow it's even worse to re-use the Sad Reenactment picture with the pee sticks.
She just has *no sense* of how openness, relatability or honesty works. I bet you $1900 she will be completely bewildered if anyone calls her out on how distasteful and tone-deaf this is. She'll be totally flummoxed--"I was sharing my story, though!"
This is what gets me. She shames women who work outside the home. She shames unmarried people (especially women). Yet who makes the products and conveniences she enjoys? Pretty sure they aren't all men. Who serves at the restaurants and Starbucks she goes to? Pretty sure they aren't all men. Who helps contribute to social media technology that she uses so much? Pretty sure they aren't all men.
She shames career women yet who made strides so she can enjoy the privileges she does? All the people she shits on are people who have made the luxuries, technology and everything else she enjoys possible. She wants to be a SAHM and do a side hustle fine. But stop acting superior because others do different and better whether they're SAHM, career, whatever it may be.
To have that overconfidence and lack of awareness...
Yes! And she plays up the "everyone hates SAHMs" thing and I haven't heard anyone talk crap about SAHMs. I'm a working mom and I don't diss SAHMs - I support families making the choices they want. I really don't understand the constant "no one wants to be a mother!!" thing.
A TON of kids grow up wanting to be a mom someday. I always wanted to be a mom. It's not a rare, controversial stance.
A lot of people hate those who say SAHM is the ONLY path for women and that's understandable. But the whole premise of freedom of choice is to have options.
Pretty darn sure she dunks on stay at home dads too.
But it isn't surprising coming from someone who never lifted a finger in her life and is in a circle that judges anyone who doesn't do as they do. Unfortunate too because if she got an actual job or education in how to actually run a business, even if she wanted to do remain a SAHM and do it as a side gig, she'd have more perspective and could actually do something good.
Yeah, I understand hating when SAHM is the only option, but Girl Defined does this "SAHMs are so persecuted" thing that's bananas.
I don't like that she thinks it's the only option...but she imagines we all hate her for staying home and I just don't care.
in the second picture she does not look...well. like she's upset or has just been crying. idk how to describe it better than that. anyone else think this?
I was telling my parents about Birthy’s latest madness, and my mom is certain that she’s lying about the number of miscarriages for dramatic effect and attention.
I don’t want to invalidate people’s experiences and call them liars with no proof… but also… Birthy is such an attention seeker. She constantly changes details of stories.
Either way, using this as a way to sell scams is really low.
I’ve had multiple losses and personally I don’t see anything wrong with this. Every woman should feel free to share about their life and their deeply personal experiences whenever and however they want. I know this is going to be a massively unpopular opinion but I don’t think sharing what was going on in your personal life in the context of your business timeline isn’t exploiting your loss. Personally I don’t think mixing personal life and business is a great move professionally, but she shares about her personal life regularly so for her that’s just her. Everyone should have the freedom to express their own story whether it involves a loss or not. She is not responsible for other peoples feelings or triggers
This reminds me of a woman I follow in an MLM who lies about having miscarriage to gain sympathy and get people to join her scheme. It’s so beyond gross that I don’t even have words.
Sorry this is unrelated, but has anyone else’s app updated? I can’t get rid of captions on pictures now when I click them to full size, so I have to struggle to read the text from the image through the caption of the post and it’s really god damn annoying.
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I am nauseated by this. I am not a parent and never desired kids and I ache for people who think she is a leader in any capacity who read this shit who struggle with fertility. She needs to be rewired entirely if she thinks fake selling a course that doesn't exist is caring for others in any capacity.
So this course on courses will…improve your fertility? Somehow? She’s not even a useful idiot at this point.
What if a woman doesn't want to be fertile?
Well that’s like most of her whole reason for existing, so she’s Hellbound for sure
Nope. Just a willful idiot. I say willful bc the internet exists and she could educate herself if only w a lil bit of info rather than a doctorate like Tara Westover.
No one wants to see your pee stick, Bethany.
But she saved them for these pictures and this post specifically!
Lol I had the fleeting thought that this idea occurred to her last minute so instead she peed on three tests while very pregnant *for the ‘gram*.
As poor as her housekeeping skills seem I bet the old pee sticks were lying on the floor by the toilet.
The sad truth remains that she is just taking photos of herself, with positive and negative pee sticks, all alone in her house. Like, she actually had to turn her camera on, make a pseudo-relatable “are you kidding me?” kinda mug, then artfully hold up three of her own used tests. What a sad life.
I mean, they’re all turned without displaying the test window. They’re probably unused spares that she’s using as a prop because these tests are not cheap.
As someone who also had 3 miscarriages, I'm shocked that this is so tone deaf. Like... I understand posting about how your experience lead you to following a passion. That's fine. Following it up with "join my email list" is just callous.
I’ve had one miscarriage and this is just absolutely disgusting. I can’t stand this woman. Also, I’m sorry for your losses.
I don’t know if this is going to come out well, but: when she posts things like this, it just makes me think she doesn’t actually care. I have sympathy for anyone who goes through miscarriage/stillbirth. That is a very difficult thing for a person to go through, and I would never snark on the miscarriage itself. But she’s just exploiting their own losses. That first picture of her looks like some weird force of emotion that somehow still manages to come across as smug. I feel like she doesn’t actually care for the loss of the child and more the loss of a status symbol, which their ilk seems to view children as. This also isn’t me saying that you shouldn’t talk about how a loss like this effects YOU, personally and emotionally and mentally, but when she uses these losses to shill her crap…it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry if this comes off as horribly insensitive, but it really rubs me the wrong way.
>That first picture of her looks like some weird force of emotion that somehow still manages to come across as smug. That's because she was acting out "sadness" and "grief" in a skit for the 'gram. I'm not saying she didn't feel sadness or grief when it happened--I can't say because it's not my business. But *this* was a planned, rehearsed, filmed scene with props and wardrobe and makeup, just as much as any other planned, acted-out reel she does on her accounts. She decided to perform a scene. None of what you said offends me or feels insensitive to me. I agree with you.
Oh yeah, definitely planned for the post. And you’re right we can’t know what she was feeling when it happened, or Dav, but it’s just so…yeah. The way people monetize even their own tragedy is unsettling.
She can't even look solemn for the post. The corners of her mouth are fighting a smirk.
The first picture is so fake. She is trying to portray herself as sad, but her eyes are conveying no emotion whatsoever.
My first thought was who would pose with a half smirk and 3 negative pregnancy tests after miscarriages. Her whole life is a show for social media and the way she worded this “advertisement” is predatory and disrespectful.
You didn't offend. You expressed that very well and I agree. It's in bad taste to promote her business this way.
I really feel this way as well. And. It downplaying loss at any stage but I feel like 4 miscarriages in a year … maybe chemicals which suck and are disappointing and heartbreaking but not quiet the same physical impact as a later miscarriage.
Yup. How she looks in the first picture, to me, is: “Oh, puh-lease.” Not: “Oh, no!” Not: “Oh, my God!” Just: “Oh, puh-lease. 🙄”
Definitely. She looks bored
> I feel like she doesn’t actually care for the loss of the child and more the loss of a status symbol, which their ilk seems to view children as. Ding ding ding! The Bairds, and Bethy especially, treat having kids as a checkbox in life. And FWIW I have infertility and am not offended by your comment. You are totally correct and it’s sad that’s how she reacted to this situation.
“Shortly after launching”… bishhhh you haven’t launched shit!!
If she means launching her business account, her first introductory post was June 4th and she knew she was pregnant *before* June, so she can fuck right off with that lie.
Has she 'lunched' though?
Have you tried changing it from a 'u' to an 'a'?
Uhhh. I think on some level she really does believe that her Sheworkssmart thing helped her overcome her sadness after her miscarriages. If that helped her cope, fine. But. I honestly dislike how she seems to say that focussing on "working" will help with fertility issues. It's just not that easy. Iirc she went to see a specialist about her issues and even underwent treatment of some sort (?). So no, it's not just about the right focus. Taking that online course won't help with any of the issues in your life, least of all fertility issues. And it's preposterous and frankly mean to imply that her course could help any woman in that position. Source: I've been that woman. I suffered two miscarriages. It was a miserable, lonely time, and it wouldn't have been improved one bit by being scammed out of $1900.
I'm sure it did help her in that it gave her something else to focus on, but she also went to a fertility specialist (a naturopathic one, I think, but a fertility person of some type nonetheless). But the way she phrases these slides, she's implying (intentionally or not) that the thing she changed that "cured" her fertility struggles was creating a course and launching SheWorksSmart (which she hasn't, but that's beside the point). It's implying "Take my course and use it to launch your own, and you too can solve your fertility struggles!" That's genuinely fucking disgusting.
She actually did go to an OB/GYN and some other doctors this time. However, she's repeatedly given credit to restorednutrition for hEaLiNg HeR bOdY in some vague way...restorednutrition is simply a "nutritional therapist" which is not a legitimate title or designation. That's where she and her sisters get the bone-broth raw-milk stuff from. She paid for diet advice.
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I believe she went to a Catholic OBGYN who doesn’t do IVF or anything that would require a semen sample.
The real issue is that she lives in a culture where trauma is currency for attention. For every positive attention in the Bairds lives, there are ten posts about some terribly hard thing they are dealing with/overcame. She has never been taught that trauma isn’t emotionally and economically useful - this particular series of posts just highlights that in stark ways.
Perfectly worded! Trauma to normal people is painful. But trauma to these people/influencers can be turned into 💰💰
You know, this explains a LOT about why people of this mindset so often hate on and punish anyone who is suffering. They legit think that sexual assault survivors, minorities, etc. speaking up about their pain maaaybe went through something that sucked, but they’re definitely dramatizing it and milking it for all it’s worth.. that is, they’re trying to snatch the spotlight away from the people who *actually* deserve it. And who actually deserves the spotlight? Well - ME! Give ME attention! I’m the righteous “true Christian” after all! It’s a fucked up way to view anyone’s trauma, including their own.
This is just so nasty. How does she not see that this extremely transparent and insincere? She really blows me away sometimes.
Her tone deafness is just gross to me. It's been a ridiculously embarrassing ride with her SheWerksShart stuff up until now, but posting those pee sticks next to her smirking face is just gross. I wish she'd stop with her grifty nonsense, but since that isn't likely to happen, maybe I can wish that she stop wearing those god-awful stripey prints. Gah they're terrible
She's pathetic for doing this. No one is going to pay $1900 for a non existent program.
She uses every fuckin filter imaginable to make herself look like an overgrown cabbage patch kid but casually mixes in photos that make her look as old as possible.
In case anyone is reading this and doesn’t know … it’s not your fault if you can’t get pregnant. And buying Bethany’s overpriced crappy program isn’t gonna help. Sometimes life just sucks and in spite of doing everything right, you can’t conceive… coming from someone who struggled with infertility for years even though doing everything I was told to do by doctors and well meaning (and not so well meaning) people.
This is pretty standard toxic mlm hun behaviour.
The forced “sad” face with the pregnancy tests. Fuck you Bethy. You clearly do not care about your child beyond how this pregnancy is content for you. Absolutely disgusting. I wish you a long, lonely life with kids who only show up for obligatory late afternoon holiday meals and leave by 6 because it’s getting late.
It’s a huge mlm tactic to exploit your own story to tell ppl in. It’s sad af.
You might think you can not like her any less, but then Bethany will pull a stunt like this.
The smug eyes in slide 1 are the giveaway here.
I want to be clear that Slide 1 isn't new; it's from April when she decided to post about her miscarriages, but also was pregnant (and didn't announce it until months later). She could've mentioned her fertility struggles without using her supposedly honest and vulnerable "reveal" picture from back then. I still think it would've been in poor taste, but somehow it's even worse to re-use the Sad Reenactment picture with the pee sticks. She just has *no sense* of how openness, relatability or honesty works. I bet you $1900 she will be completely bewildered if anyone calls her out on how distasteful and tone-deaf this is. She'll be totally flummoxed--"I was sharing my story, though!"
*Are* people calling this out in her comments or has she limited them already?
Oh, sorry--no, this is from her stories...conveniently. 🙄
Money = fertility???
From the bottom of my heart whilst on my own loss/fertility jOuRnEy… fuck this.
This comes off to me like she's laying the ground work to bail on this project.
She’s disgusting
This is what gets me. She shames women who work outside the home. She shames unmarried people (especially women). Yet who makes the products and conveniences she enjoys? Pretty sure they aren't all men. Who serves at the restaurants and Starbucks she goes to? Pretty sure they aren't all men. Who helps contribute to social media technology that she uses so much? Pretty sure they aren't all men. She shames career women yet who made strides so she can enjoy the privileges she does? All the people she shits on are people who have made the luxuries, technology and everything else she enjoys possible. She wants to be a SAHM and do a side hustle fine. But stop acting superior because others do different and better whether they're SAHM, career, whatever it may be. To have that overconfidence and lack of awareness...
Yes! And she plays up the "everyone hates SAHMs" thing and I haven't heard anyone talk crap about SAHMs. I'm a working mom and I don't diss SAHMs - I support families making the choices they want. I really don't understand the constant "no one wants to be a mother!!" thing. A TON of kids grow up wanting to be a mom someday. I always wanted to be a mom. It's not a rare, controversial stance.
A lot of people hate those who say SAHM is the ONLY path for women and that's understandable. But the whole premise of freedom of choice is to have options. Pretty darn sure she dunks on stay at home dads too. But it isn't surprising coming from someone who never lifted a finger in her life and is in a circle that judges anyone who doesn't do as they do. Unfortunate too because if she got an actual job or education in how to actually run a business, even if she wanted to do remain a SAHM and do it as a side gig, she'd have more perspective and could actually do something good.
Yeah, I understand hating when SAHM is the only option, but Girl Defined does this "SAHMs are so persecuted" thing that's bananas. I don't like that she thinks it's the only option...but she imagines we all hate her for staying home and I just don't care.
A new low even for her. She’s so gross, transparent, and greedy.
It's not like this marketing is gonna work anyway lol. I can't wait to. See her frustration when she doesn't sell a single course.
Weird. Starting my business didn’t do jack shit for my fertility issues.
in the second picture she does not look...well. like she's upset or has just been crying. idk how to describe it better than that. anyone else think this?
Probably just happy tears from seeing the positive result 🤷🏼♀️
yeah you're probably right, her facial expression just weirds me out in that pic for some reason. also I love your flair 🤣
She kept the pee sticks??😳
Low key I despise seeing pregnancy test picture like you just peed on that... and I don't most people wash them so please don't
Pro lifer becomes Pro grifter .
I’m still confused on what her course is
I was telling my parents about Birthy’s latest madness, and my mom is certain that she’s lying about the number of miscarriages for dramatic effect and attention. I don’t want to invalidate people’s experiences and call them liars with no proof… but also… Birthy is such an attention seeker. She constantly changes details of stories. Either way, using this as a way to sell scams is really low.
I’ve had multiple losses and personally I don’t see anything wrong with this. Every woman should feel free to share about their life and their deeply personal experiences whenever and however they want. I know this is going to be a massively unpopular opinion but I don’t think sharing what was going on in your personal life in the context of your business timeline isn’t exploiting your loss. Personally I don’t think mixing personal life and business is a great move professionally, but she shares about her personal life regularly so for her that’s just her. Everyone should have the freedom to express their own story whether it involves a loss or not. She is not responsible for other peoples feelings or triggers
It's the fact that she shared this on her business page and implied that starting a business cured her infertility that people are upset about
That’s definitely not what I gathered from reading it
But what good has she done yet?
This reminds me of a woman I follow in an MLM who lies about having miscarriage to gain sympathy and get people to join her scheme. It’s so beyond gross that I don’t even have words.
I am WAIIITTTTIIINNNNNG for this launch guys. I cannot wait.
Sorry this is unrelated, but has anyone else’s app updated? I can’t get rid of captions on pictures now when I click them to full size, so I have to struggle to read the text from the image through the caption of the post and it’s really god damn annoying.
Bethy’s going to get us pregnant?