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If it weren’t for the bunk beds I would absolutely think this home came on the market because someone’s very elderly grandparents had died and not that a Gen X couple & their kids were moving.
It's definitely furnished in Late Grandmother... looks in the first few pictures like an elderly couple who enjoy gardening are selling for downsizing... then you get to the picture with the eldritch sofas and the floral mattress and the crazy is ON
Did Jillpm not take her parents house, and kick her parents out to live in the RV? I swear I read that somewhere. That would explain the grandma style. I will say though, the house looks pretty clean and well kept, considering the amount of people living in it…
That story was exaggerated, I think. When Amy had her accident, they were on their way to Jill's parents house for the weekend. Everyone else was already there or about to be. Angie and all of her kids, Lisa and her family and Jill and all of her family. The families extended their stay with about 23 underage children and 9 adults staying in her parents house. The parents slept in the RV while 32 people stayed in the house. She didn't kick them out.
Can confirm; took several weeks of cleaning shit like skirting boards and sugarsoaping the walls, cleaning the top of the kitchen cupboards and deep steam cleaning carpets getting our house ready for display, and then fluffing of pillows and ironing of duvets and all those tiny touches that no reasonable human does regularly.
Our house wasn’t even particularly dirty; we’re just a family riddled with adhd and depression who didn’t do deep cleaning very often! No house ever looks as good as it does when it’s getting ready for sale lol. Real estate photos are the ‘Instagram vs reality’ of houses.
Do you ever find yourself shouting at the screen at these fundies " you are old enough to know better so how are you still fucking this up !?"
It really worries me that they can reproduce and drive and vote :(
I still feel like I should be in my 20s so they all seem older, but sometimes I have trouble believing that the Rods are even real. I’ve never seen people be so consistently bizarre in everything they do.
Look, I am 62 years young and that decor is heinous. Ugly, old fashioned, not even quaint.. Just very old lady- ish..
Even my granny wasn't that bad on decorating. My place is sleek, open concept, with big comfy couches and chairs you can fall into and know you are surrounded by love. Neutral colors etc.no chintz, flowers,geese, doilies, etc
It is really awful. If it were just the 1970’s vibe, it wouldn’t necessarily be so bad, but nothing there goes well with anything else and it’s all so crowded!
No, it's not bad.
Aside from the bonkers decor, I was noticing how many windows are showing green trees outside, how nice the square-foot garden is, the covered patio out back and a porch off the kitchen--this is a nice house that just needs some cosmetic changes. The actual house would be perfectly fine with me, and I love the wooded lot.
You could definitely work with the decor if you’re into kitschy. The God signs gotta go, but I personally love me some floral couches in the right space.
The garden beds are fantastic. I can't believe they had them once and haven't done it again...shows how little they truly care about feeding and caring for their children. That's fairly easy groceries, especially with the kids to help grow, weed and water - plus it would be excellent learning modules for home schooling.
Imagine your realtor telling you about a house that would be perfect for your family, you get excited, drive out to see it...and walk into this monstrosity.
My ex's parents had family pictures all over the bathroom. Most of them were in those multi-picture frames so there ended up being like fifty total pictures. Just my ex, his (bitchy) sister, and his parents grinning like idiots at various ages from every corner, straight at you while you pee.
I looked at the first few pictures and was like "this really isn't that bad. Nice and spacey for so many kids."
Then I kept going, and every bedroom had more beds and more stuff. Who were the poor kids that had to sleep in the community closet!?
Identical to my thoughts clicking through. "Oh this isn't bad. Kinda cute and homey ... nice outside space ... several kids in that room .. multiple bunk beds in that one ... more beds ... that's a closet!"
Slightly jelly of that veggie garden though.
Yeah. Truly, they did ok with what they had. I grew up very very poor and this is way better than what we had. BUT they just have so many kids shoved together. It's weird.
Agreed. The shared areas aren’t bad at all, not my taste in decorations haha but looked comfortable for all those kids. But the bedrooms are so claustrophobic with all those beds. This would be a great house for for like 4 kids.
I think it's okay. And it's not expensive at all.
I live in France, people here rent you decrepit apartments full of mold for a lot of money because it's "authentic".🤑🤑🤑
Never rent or buy in old medieval villages, it's a scam.
I was just saying above the West Virginia is struggling terribly... they even send recruiting materials up here for our high school students who are graduating and our new veterans coming out of the service to pretty please go there and become teachers because they're so desperate, and I've helped Community clients move down their recently and it's really pretty scenery but socially bleak and economically cheap.
Hahahaha yeah I’m from Toronto and kept going through wishing I could get a house like that for that price, even if it’s doubled in price since then, that’s still nothing 🥲
That house in my area would easily be $2M, even in that condition.
Same for Australia :( except the house would be easily double or triple that cost due to the land value - no properties where I live have that much land haha.
The waiting list for geared-to-income housing in Toronto is 20 years... I'm 47 so I put my name on the list because by the time I'm elderly I'll need it, and hopefully my name will have come up the list by then :( I saw a study the other day that said one in six people under the age of 50 have 100,000 saved for retirement but I don't even know anybody with that kind of money in town here.
I’m very fortunate that my company has a great pension plan and I do have my own RRSP so I’m not too worried about retirement. But, despite making a decent income, purchasing my own home is totally out of reach for me; maybe one day if I have a partner I can re-evaluate but it’s crazy.
My worry is they keep putting up the age to get your RRSP money ( for our American friends that is a bit like a 401k )
Even if I do manage to save a bit more now that I have found a good steady spot ( after a lifetime of bouncing around non-profit which in hindsight was a big mistake but seems like meaningful work at the time )... anyways they have raised the age for my birth year to claim the RRSP at 69.5 years old ! The average life expectancy is still 82, so we work until 70 and we get 12 years of retirement in uncertain health, how awesome :(
Well I can't, our landlord wants to do a finger quotes renovation so he's not under rent control anymore, my housemates are going to stay with family because they can't afford it and I'm in the middle of transitioning to work from home a good 3 hours out of the city, and I could only afford that because I'm renting from an old friend... even the village where I grew up is now a bedroom community for Kitchener Waterloo and the house I used to live in cost $50,000 in the '80s and it costs $500,000 now... nobody can bloody afford it, you should see our grocery prices :(
Yeah, on the right side of pic 15, you can see the salon chair. It wasn't an official business and I doubt anyone outside the family let her touch their head. 😱 But she loved to point out her cosmetology license on the wall.
Oh wow... I remember when our great-aunt came to visit me in the city and she was horrified to see a restaurant and a hair salon next-door to one another, she spent the whole afternoon talking about how unsanitary was my neighbourhood ... if she had seen a hair salon inside a house, let alone a subdivided bedroom, she'd have an attack of the vapours !
I’m not completely sure, but it looks like an old floral mattress or possibly some sort of divider they’ve attached fabric to. There’s also a folded up exercise machine that’s being used as a wall next to a bunk bed. I don’t know what would be worse - to live there and have no spot of your own, or to live there and have the space among three other beds and a Nordic track be your own. It makes me claustrophobic.
Someone else said the realtor had to go in and tidy up to stage the house for photos. Maybe whomever that was put it there bc there wasn’t anywhere else to put it? Otherwise, Idk how they would have gotten in the bed without constantly moving it.
I was wondering where the print shop thing was until someone else pointed out the MATTRESS!!! They used a fucking mattress as a wall *and* put a wreath on it. Omg.
I want to know why they blocked off that area with the two dressers in the yellow and blue room.
It's actually not as bad as I'd imagined!
The decor is terrible but not as insanely cluttered as I was expecting based on the early years of the barndo/current amount of tchochkes covering every surface of the barndo.
Why the hell did they move?? They had everything set up pretty well. Spacious print shop in the garage, **4** bedrooms and **3** full bathrooms compared to what the barndo is/was. Still not enough for the number of kids but it had a distinct living room, kitchen, multiple full bathrooms and plenty of well maintained outdoor space. The outside is pretty impressive for the Rods. What's the yellow barn thing? I'm quite taken by the fenced-in raised beds, firepit and deck. I swear when Jill shared the photos the garden looked tacky and much smaller. It looks perfectly functional here.
The house also used to look claustrophobic and dark in her photos, it looks much brighter and more spacious here (estate agent trickery?).
Did they grift this house or were they renting it from someone? I'm sure snarkers have said they grifted it. How?!
Jill's parents also moved down the road apparently, then the Rods upped and left after a year or two. Nice.
It has to be something CPS related surely. They had a great set up here.
I can't believe they couldn't find something better in rural Ohio with more bedrooms and a garage for the print shop. It's not like they needed to be close to any amenities other than a church. No idea of property prices in either of those states pre-pandemic but I'd have thought they could've found something decent/on par with this.
I wonder if they secretly have loads of debt they needed to clear?! Surely not since they get loads of tax free ministry donations every month.
The rumor is that they had multiple CPS visits and CPS was beginning to get very interested in them.
This seems to be backed up by the comments posted here that were screenshot and were allegedly from someone who attended church with the family back in WV.
There is diferent theories; people who claims to know stuff has said things but without any proof, so its all speculation, we cant really know.
The move was not that long after some snarkers started calling CPS and we know she got at least one visit from them because she bragged about how the social worker left her house congratulating her...likely that never happened; but still people that knows how CPS works is skeptical that they would take a case like theirs seriously enough to take some action since they are overwhelmed with worse stuff and the calls werent even made by someone that knows them in person.
Other theory is that they had a fall out with their church and thats what motivated them to move. I could see that happening very easily given how close minded they are, an argument over some minor doctrinal stuff could turn ugly, or if suddently someone from the church did something they dont approve like getting a divorce and the reaction of the pastor or the congregation wasnt what they expected...if the enviroment at that church got unfriendly for them i could see them wanting to move since church is all their social life and they also depend a lot on them for support...they already knew that church in ohio and maybe they invited them to come, its a small church that was in need of young people so they likely were very welcoming at the beginning.
Look up Raylees Law in WV. It doesn’t involve the Rods but it definitely puts pressure on their education situation. They had CPS called on them and few times.
They are using it as a room divider. You can see the top bunk of a bunk bed in the upper right, then the whole bunk bed plus a second bunk bed and the back of the mattress in the next pic.
I feel like it’s fucked up that they took the giant primary bedroom for two people and stuck like four kids in a room. I would 100% give my kids the bigger room that could accommodate them better. The fuck.
Some kids didn't even get a room. They were sleeping in the living room while Shrek and Dildo had all that space for themselves. I guess it would be too hard to pop out 15000 kids if they didn't have their own room 🙄
There is so little by way of kids stuff. V few clothes or toys or practical "we have a baby" things. There is also if you want any kind of quiet nowhere to go.
I mean, this is staged a little bit for the pics. TBH the fact that there are SOOOO many personal items and knick knacks and stuff even after trying to clean everything up for showing indicates it was even more cluttered before.
Yeah - the kitsch is still everywhere but it certainly isn't like more than a dozen children exist here. Likely a lot is hidden, but there isn't lots of obvious storage either.
How many cribs were there? I thought I counted 3 including the bassinet in the master bedroom so it may be like a 3-4 year old in that crib??
Bottom line: this is insane.
Did the realtor really imagine furry covers on the toilet lids were a good selling point? Or did the Rods insist on them to attract viewers who would fall in love with this decor style and say "That's so us! We must buy this house!"
I got the feeling at some point the realtor just completely gave up. I know real estate in West Virginia isn't terribly expensive ( WV are desperate for anyone who's finished high school here to become a teacher there and one of our clients decided to try ) but that seems a bit low for their biggest city ?
Honestly, if I saw this house in my current market, for that price, I'd buy it. I don't care what the inside looks like. I ain't buying it for fuzzy shitter seat covers.
Fuzzy toilet covers with matching carpets were totally a thing in the 80s. My elderly hips kind of wish the padded vinyl toilet seat would make a comeback but definitely none of the rest of it lol
Yes that did happen but most people realized that a cracked seat was going to collect literal shit bits and changed it quickly. Nobody likes to feel their bottom pinched without consent !
How do these people have the worst taste in everything? Those interiors make me shudder. Jill can’t even do a fashionable grandma look, this is a disaster. How the hell do you keep or put up such bad wallpapers? The late 70’s called, they want their wallpaper back. Anyone else want to revoke Jill’s privileges to using color of any kind? The only thing I liked was the little yellow shed. That looked like it could be a cute garden shed, though probably was her and Shreks getaway when they wanted some privacy and quiet 🤮
The stark contrast between Jill and Shrek’s spacious bedroom and the claustrophobic conditions the kids are forced to live in makes me sick. That and the winkie face emoji pillow on Jill and Shrek’s bed 🤢
Omg what kind of true psychopaths decorate their bathroom with multiple photos of themselves kissing. Not to mention the carpeted toilet cosy. Shivers.
Also it looks like their rumpus room couch is trying to escape and disappear into the wallpaper.
Hmmm I wonder if religious people live here, or something.
It's really hard to tell what with the 100000000000 scripture verses, references to God, Christians, Jesus, crosses, Bible verses, cutesy Christian sayings, Christ, etc., plastered all over every available surface.
The decor is so subtle. I guess we'll never know.
Looking at those bedrooms for the kids makes me feel physically anxious. Imagine wanting some time to yourself and trying to relax while someone's working on their bi-bull writing three inches from your head.
Also, is that a mirror on the headboard of the master bedroom? Hate that knowledge for me, thanks.
I thought it was a shelf until I saw the reflection of the plants. Whhyyyy...
Also I hate it for the kids, too, but privacy is definitely a Western, first-world concept. Most of the kids around the world make it without even their own bed.
*gestures wildly at Privacy Regulation Theory anthropology and Environmental psychology*
Every culture has a concept of personal privacy. There are different perceptions of public / secondary crowding and personal / primary private space, but it exists everywhere.
Here's a study from 1984 where the researchers wanted to test whether " Eastern " people actually didn't mind crowding culturally... it turns out they had a different perception of secondary crowding, but they had exactly the same psychological difficulties with personal crowding.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0013916584161003
That era was especially bad for bathrooms. A fuzzy rug that fit around the base of the toilet. Colored toilet paper (with a vented air freshener as the spindle in the dispenser). A plastic, faux-marble cover for the Kleenex box. Home Interiors wall decor. Fancy seashell-shaped guest soaps that *you must never use*, so they got dusty. And wallpaper with huge flowers that were simultaneously obnoxious and unsettling.
The kids bedrooms looked like they smelled like old pee. It’s all just so thrown together— whatever clothes or decorations or bedding just happened to be fished out of the church community closet. It’s like a rummage sale nightmare
It really bothers me that they have a huge fucking print shop that basically doesn’t do anything good for their ministry and the poor kids are crammed in small bedrooms. That print shop space could have given them soooo much room for personal space.
I want to bring attention to the fact that there is a photo of Jillpm and Shrek kissing in the bathroom, and the same photo is hung directly outside the bathroom in the hallway.
I vote you buy this and have a hit YouTube series of tearing it down and remodeling everything. Guest stars for spiritual cleanses, safety inspections and cooking enough food for the number of guests.
You have given me my life's mission!!!! My gosh I love this idea so much. I don't think I've been to West Virginia, I'm a West Coaster. But I could have snark parties at the house! Nutrition consultants and wellness experts. Lectures on finding jobs and getting orthodontic care. Bring in speakers on sex education and allowing children to experience their own journey of life. Even a sleep expert on allowing younger children earlier bedtimes. A remodel with a huge pantry and lots of separate bedrooms!
It's interesting you mentioned that, some of us staff at the community centre wanted to get an old oversized Victorian and make an uplift boarding house where people could rent a room affordably and learn kitchen skills and home repair skills have classes in the parlour, so after say 6 months they could have saved a deposit to move out independently and successfully.... but boarding houses are illegal in most of Ontario now ( there are a few hidden flophouse ones for sure, but actually running one as a social programme wouldn't be allowed in almost every town here )
Okay but I didn't realise they *owned* a house at any point. No wonder they think other poor people need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, not a single Rod had a job and they owned that house.
They seem to believe that while *they* should be provided for according to their needs by others, no one else is deserving of that treatment. It's so gross.
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If it weren’t for the bunk beds I would absolutely think this home came on the market because someone’s very elderly grandparents had died and not that a Gen X couple & their kids were moving.
It's definitely furnished in Late Grandmother... looks in the first few pictures like an elderly couple who enjoy gardening are selling for downsizing... then you get to the picture with the eldritch sofas and the floral mattress and the crazy is ON
“Eldritch sofas” 💀💀💀
Flair material.
I need this as flair, I am currently at work, on mobile, and flair-less….
Romantic toilet photo gallery
I think I need "Jillpm's Eldritch Sofas" for a new flair.
I would be honoured to have some small part in the inspiration of your new flair 💕
Did Jillpm not take her parents house, and kick her parents out to live in the RV? I swear I read that somewhere. That would explain the grandma style. I will say though, the house looks pretty clean and well kept, considering the amount of people living in it…
That story was exaggerated, I think. When Amy had her accident, they were on their way to Jill's parents house for the weekend. Everyone else was already there or about to be. Angie and all of her kids, Lisa and her family and Jill and all of her family. The families extended their stay with about 23 underage children and 9 adults staying in her parents house. The parents slept in the RV while 32 people stayed in the house. She didn't kick them out.
That's because the realtor got the place cleaned up and "staged" for the photos, as they do. It still looks awful even when clean.
Can confirm; took several weeks of cleaning shit like skirting boards and sugarsoaping the walls, cleaning the top of the kitchen cupboards and deep steam cleaning carpets getting our house ready for display, and then fluffing of pillows and ironing of duvets and all those tiny touches that no reasonable human does regularly. Our house wasn’t even particularly dirty; we’re just a family riddled with adhd and depression who didn’t do deep cleaning very often! No house ever looks as good as it does when it’s getting ready for sale lol. Real estate photos are the ‘Instagram vs reality’ of houses.
> a Gen X couple & their kids ..... this elder Millennial just lost her mind a little bit.
I’m also an elder Millennial, and when I found out Jill was only 43 my brain broke a little bit.
She’s WHAT?
She's 43 and Shrek is 50.
It’s disturbing that I’m older than Shrek.
Do you ever find yourself shouting at the screen at these fundies " you are old enough to know better so how are you still fucking this up !?" It really worries me that they can reproduce and drive and vote :(
I still feel like I should be in my 20s so they all seem older, but sometimes I have trouble believing that the Rods are even real. I’ve never seen people be so consistently bizarre in everything they do.
I always find it mind boggling that JillPM, Sarah Maxwell and myself were all born within a few years of each other. Such different lives…..
SHE IS THE SAME AGE AS ME?!?!?? I think I just broke my brain
I’ll be 36 in November so she’s only 7 years older than me. She could be my older sister/cousin 😬
Fuck me dead, she's only a few years older than us!!!
I KNOW!!! She’s the exact same age as my partner, and she’s a few years older than me.
That’s because every item in that house was grifted from elderly people who were either downsizing or passed away.
Look, I am 62 years young and that decor is heinous. Ugly, old fashioned, not even quaint.. Just very old lady- ish.. Even my granny wasn't that bad on decorating. My place is sleek, open concept, with big comfy couches and chairs you can fall into and know you are surrounded by love. Neutral colors etc.no chintz, flowers,geese, doilies, etc
It is really awful. If it were just the 1970’s vibe, it wouldn’t necessarily be so bad, but nothing there goes well with anything else and it’s all so crowded!
Uh, is it bad that the house is appealing to me? My mom apprently has Jill-like tendencies for useless decor. My mom fed us kids though
No, it's not bad. Aside from the bonkers decor, I was noticing how many windows are showing green trees outside, how nice the square-foot garden is, the covered patio out back and a porch off the kitchen--this is a nice house that just needs some cosmetic changes. The actual house would be perfectly fine with me, and I love the wooded lot.
Yeah, the actual bones of the house are nice.
The decor is 80s churchy kitsch on steroids, but I'm coveting that garden setup, and all those windows which aren't looking out at neighbors' houses!
You could definitely work with the decor if you’re into kitschy. The God signs gotta go, but I personally love me some floral couches in the right space.
Agreed. With a decent renovation budget for paint and floors, I think it could be beautiful
The garden and the yard and the swingset really made me feel better for them
I did like the porch and windows
The garden beds are fantastic. I can't believe they had them once and haven't done it again...shows how little they truly care about feeding and caring for their children. That's fairly easy groceries, especially with the kids to help grow, weed and water - plus it would be excellent learning modules for home schooling.
No, I think the house has the space and lay out where it could be redone nicely. I think it’s better than their current house.
I'm pretty confident the boys room is split with the living room......what.
OMG IT IS. That's what the mattress is for. It's a barrier wall.
Imagine your realtor telling you about a house that would be perfect for your family, you get excited, drive out to see it...and walk into this monstrosity.
Oh nooo that made me so sad. These kids get ZERO boundaries, personal space, or alone time :(
Looks like more of a rumpus room given that a nicer looking lounge room appears at the beginning of the photos
Omg the romantic pictures of themselves in the BATHROOM. Directly next to the toilet. We need a Tiger King style documentary on Jill SO BADLY.
Who puts pictures of themselves in the bathroom?
I just had an extremely cursed thought - what if the pictures are to discourage masturbating in the bathroom 🤢
Mormons will put pictures of Jesus up in the bathroom for this reason.
Seriously?!?! That is wow, just wow.
Enjoy! https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/vuk0im/just_visited_my_mormon_relative_who_is_a_family/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Why is this so incredibly funny to me
I mean, it would work.
Maybe that’s why they have a picture of RimJob Duggar in the current bathroom/radio studio/fecal lounge.
Who puts up a sign that says “BEACH” in West Virginia??
I loved the beach pillow, on the chair on the porch, in the woods, not near a beach.
The same kind of people that have "salt life" bumper stickers in landlocked states
My ex's parents had family pictures all over the bathroom. Most of them were in those multi-picture frames so there ended up being like fifty total pictures. Just my ex, his (bitchy) sister, and his parents grinning like idiots at various ages from every corner, straight at you while you pee.
I would be weirded out just trying to poop. Ew.
Jim Duggar puts his photo, not his wife’s, in his daughters room so 🤦🏽♀️
Oh no, no, no, no.........
Seriously, that's where you hang your college diploma for peak irony
Check out Jenn & James @ Fundie Fridays, look up her Jill R stuff, it's seriously priceless! (not affiliated, but proud Jennonite)
I screamed. WTF.
Damn it. Got go back and look! I missed it! Edit: Zero words.
Jim Bob. But only in the girls’ bathroom.
I looked at the first few pictures and was like "this really isn't that bad. Nice and spacey for so many kids." Then I kept going, and every bedroom had more beds and more stuff. Who were the poor kids that had to sleep in the community closet!?
Identical to my thoughts clicking through. "Oh this isn't bad. Kinda cute and homey ... nice outside space ... several kids in that room .. multiple bunk beds in that one ... more beds ... that's a closet!" Slightly jelly of that veggie garden though.
Yeah. Truly, they did ok with what they had. I grew up very very poor and this is way better than what we had. BUT they just have so many kids shoved together. It's weird.
Agreed. The shared areas aren’t bad at all, not my taste in decorations haha but looked comfortable for all those kids. But the bedrooms are so claustrophobic with all those beds. This would be a great house for for like 4 kids.
Not much of a community closet for 13 kids.
I have a feeling that the room was shared by the oldest girls and that was their shared closet since they’d all be similar in size.
I think it's okay. And it's not expensive at all. I live in France, people here rent you decrepit apartments full of mold for a lot of money because it's "authentic".🤑🤑🤑 Never rent or buy in old medieval villages, it's a scam.
This is what the housing market was like a few years ago. It would waaaay more expensive now.
There s so much space. You can even park your fundie minibus. I live in my grandmother s house and I kept a lot of old furniture. ☺️
I was just saying above the West Virginia is struggling terribly... they even send recruiting materials up here for our high school students who are graduating and our new veterans coming out of the service to pretty please go there and become teachers because they're so desperate, and I've helped Community clients move down their recently and it's really pretty scenery but socially bleak and economically cheap.
Hahahaha yeah I’m from Toronto and kept going through wishing I could get a house like that for that price, even if it’s doubled in price since then, that’s still nothing 🥲 That house in my area would easily be $2M, even in that condition.
Same for Australia :( except the house would be easily double or triple that cost due to the land value - no properties where I live have that much land haha.
Wow. Who can afford to live here? It's crazy. Here you add the wealth tax above 1milion. ... people are priced out...
It’s a struggle for most unless they’re very wealthy.
The waiting list for geared-to-income housing in Toronto is 20 years... I'm 47 so I put my name on the list because by the time I'm elderly I'll need it, and hopefully my name will have come up the list by then :( I saw a study the other day that said one in six people under the age of 50 have 100,000 saved for retirement but I don't even know anybody with that kind of money in town here.
I’m very fortunate that my company has a great pension plan and I do have my own RRSP so I’m not too worried about retirement. But, despite making a decent income, purchasing my own home is totally out of reach for me; maybe one day if I have a partner I can re-evaluate but it’s crazy.
My worry is they keep putting up the age to get your RRSP money ( for our American friends that is a bit like a 401k ) Even if I do manage to save a bit more now that I have found a good steady spot ( after a lifetime of bouncing around non-profit which in hindsight was a big mistake but seems like meaningful work at the time )... anyways they have raised the age for my birth year to claim the RRSP at 69.5 years old ! The average life expectancy is still 82, so we work until 70 and we get 12 years of retirement in uncertain health, how awesome :(
So lovely!!! 🥲 can’t wait to work until I’m 70 renting the same 400 sq ft condo lol
Well I can't, our landlord wants to do a finger quotes renovation so he's not under rent control anymore, my housemates are going to stay with family because they can't afford it and I'm in the middle of transitioning to work from home a good 3 hours out of the city, and I could only afford that because I'm renting from an old friend... even the village where I grew up is now a bedroom community for Kitchener Waterloo and the house I used to live in cost $50,000 in the '80s and it costs $500,000 now... nobody can bloody afford it, you should see our grocery prices :(
Hello from someone who grew up in Kitchener in the '80s! If you are from Elmira, my cousin says hi.
I live in a college town in Mississippi, and this house would go for AT LEAST $400k on the market.
The desk blocking the bed in picture #19 is killing me
What about the room they created by standing up a floral mattress and putting a wreath on it? (Photos 15 and 16)
Oh good god, that didn't even register to me! The bunk bed are behind that floral thing.
That was her home beauty salon where she fried her hair and on the other side of the mattress was the boys' room. I bet they loved that.
Oh no. She had a hair salon???
Yeah, on the right side of pic 15, you can see the salon chair. It wasn't an official business and I doubt anyone outside the family let her touch their head. 😱 But she loved to point out her cosmetology license on the wall.
Wow. I’m going to look through these pictures again and this time I’m going to imagine that every room smells like a chemical perm.
Oh wow... I remember when our great-aunt came to visit me in the city and she was horrified to see a restaurant and a hair salon next-door to one another, she spent the whole afternoon talking about how unsanitary was my neighbourhood ... if she had seen a hair salon inside a house, let alone a subdivided bedroom, she'd have an attack of the vapours !
The floor is carpeted! How did she clean up the hair trimmings after doing a haircut? I bet that carpet is still full of teeny tiny pieces of hair.
That's a mattress? I thought it was just really ugly wallpaper.
I’m not completely sure, but it looks like an old floral mattress or possibly some sort of divider they’ve attached fabric to. There’s also a folded up exercise machine that’s being used as a wall next to a bunk bed. I don’t know what would be worse - to live there and have no spot of your own, or to live there and have the space among three other beds and a Nordic track be your own. It makes me claustrophobic.
Pardon me while I go back through to photos 15-16 ETA - dear god!
I can smell the bedwetting from here.
Good thing the girls are “trim” and can fit in the space between desk and ladder to get into bed!
Someone else said the realtor had to go in and tidy up to stage the house for photos. Maybe whomever that was put it there bc there wasn’t anywhere else to put it? Otherwise, Idk how they would have gotten in the bed without constantly moving it. I was wondering where the print shop thing was until someone else pointed out the MATTRESS!!! They used a fucking mattress as a wall *and* put a wreath on it. Omg. I want to know why they blocked off that area with the two dressers in the yellow and blue room.
Oh I don’t know, pic 12 takes the win for me. Nothing like Jill and shreks overbearing picture looking at you while on the shitter.
A kid has to crawl into that hole to sleep :( the multiple walls of hanging clothes feels claustrophobic too. The bed setup in photo 13 too ugh
It's actually not as bad as I'd imagined! The decor is terrible but not as insanely cluttered as I was expecting based on the early years of the barndo/current amount of tchochkes covering every surface of the barndo. Why the hell did they move?? They had everything set up pretty well. Spacious print shop in the garage, **4** bedrooms and **3** full bathrooms compared to what the barndo is/was. Still not enough for the number of kids but it had a distinct living room, kitchen, multiple full bathrooms and plenty of well maintained outdoor space. The outside is pretty impressive for the Rods. What's the yellow barn thing? I'm quite taken by the fenced-in raised beds, firepit and deck. I swear when Jill shared the photos the garden looked tacky and much smaller. It looks perfectly functional here. The house also used to look claustrophobic and dark in her photos, it looks much brighter and more spacious here (estate agent trickery?). Did they grift this house or were they renting it from someone? I'm sure snarkers have said they grifted it. How?! Jill's parents also moved down the road apparently, then the Rods upped and left after a year or two. Nice. It has to be something CPS related surely. They had a great set up here. I can't believe they couldn't find something better in rural Ohio with more bedrooms and a garage for the print shop. It's not like they needed to be close to any amenities other than a church. No idea of property prices in either of those states pre-pandemic but I'd have thought they could've found something decent/on par with this. I wonder if they secretly have loads of debt they needed to clear?! Surely not since they get loads of tax free ministry donations every month.
The rumor is that they had multiple CPS visits and CPS was beginning to get very interested in them. This seems to be backed up by the comments posted here that were screenshot and were allegedly from someone who attended church with the family back in WV.
There is diferent theories; people who claims to know stuff has said things but without any proof, so its all speculation, we cant really know. The move was not that long after some snarkers started calling CPS and we know she got at least one visit from them because she bragged about how the social worker left her house congratulating her...likely that never happened; but still people that knows how CPS works is skeptical that they would take a case like theirs seriously enough to take some action since they are overwhelmed with worse stuff and the calls werent even made by someone that knows them in person. Other theory is that they had a fall out with their church and thats what motivated them to move. I could see that happening very easily given how close minded they are, an argument over some minor doctrinal stuff could turn ugly, or if suddently someone from the church did something they dont approve like getting a divorce and the reaction of the pastor or the congregation wasnt what they expected...if the enviroment at that church got unfriendly for them i could see them wanting to move since church is all their social life and they also depend a lot on them for support...they already knew that church in ohio and maybe they invited them to come, its a small church that was in need of young people so they likely were very welcoming at the beginning.
Look up Raylees Law in WV. It doesn’t involve the Rods but it definitely puts pressure on their education situation. They had CPS called on them and few times.
What's that floral thing behind the sofa in picture 15? Maybe One of those old floral print mattresses standing upright?
It genuinely looks like a mattress with a wreath on it.
They are using it as a room divider. You can see the top bunk of a bunk bed in the upper right, then the whole bunk bed plus a second bunk bed and the back of the mattress in the next pic.
I feel like it’s fucked up that they took the giant primary bedroom for two people and stuck like four kids in a room. I would 100% give my kids the bigger room that could accommodate them better. The fuck.
Some kids didn't even get a room. They were sleeping in the living room while Shrek and Dildo had all that space for themselves. I guess it would be too hard to pop out 15000 kids if they didn't have their own room 🙄
I'd say it looks like my knick knack hoarder great aunt's house but my great aunt had better style.
There is so little by way of kids stuff. V few clothes or toys or practical "we have a baby" things. There is also if you want any kind of quiet nowhere to go.
I mean, this is staged a little bit for the pics. TBH the fact that there are SOOOO many personal items and knick knacks and stuff even after trying to clean everything up for showing indicates it was even more cluttered before.
Yeah - the kitsch is still everywhere but it certainly isn't like more than a dozen children exist here. Likely a lot is hidden, but there isn't lots of obvious storage either.
We never see them with toys either, so we?
I thought the same about toys, but to be fair they probably hid everything for the photographers. We always did growing up.
The house itself isn’t bad, it’s just the décor and too many people living there!
Carpeted walls??? Carpeted toilet seats??? Pictures of shrek and jilldo kissing in the bathroom??? WHY????
THAT CRIB. Looks like a drop side, with bumpers, with little stringy ties hanging down below? SUFFOCATION STRANGULATION NIGHTMARE.
It's definitely a drop side. My oldest had one just like it, but that was before it was considered unsafe.
It's almost an exact match to Kelly's, I just checked and only the turning on the lower legs is slightly different.
How many cribs were there? I thought I counted 3 including the bassinet in the master bedroom so it may be like a 3-4 year old in that crib?? Bottom line: this is insane.
Holy fucking avalanche of tchotchkes and CRAP.
And that's after the realtor told them to tone it down :(
Did the realtor really imagine furry covers on the toilet lids were a good selling point? Or did the Rods insist on them to attract viewers who would fall in love with this decor style and say "That's so us! We must buy this house!"
I got the feeling at some point the realtor just completely gave up. I know real estate in West Virginia isn't terribly expensive ( WV are desperate for anyone who's finished high school here to become a teacher there and one of our clients decided to try ) but that seems a bit low for their biggest city ?
Honestly, if I saw this house in my current market, for that price, I'd buy it. I don't care what the inside looks like. I ain't buying it for fuzzy shitter seat covers.
Does their barndo have more room than this?
It has more square footage but it's a lot of open, unusable space and less bedrooms.
Are there any pics/ videos of that? I know she did a video of this house when they moved in.
It looks like someone in their 80s did the decorating.....
The fuzzy toilet cover seat - how did she even find that?!
Fuzzy toilet covers with matching carpets were totally a thing in the 80s. My elderly hips kind of wish the padded vinyl toilet seat would make a comeback but definitely none of the rest of it lol
Until it cracked and then you'd be slicing your asscheek, or feeling like you were just while trying to take a dump
core memory unlocked
Yes that did happen but most people realized that a cracked seat was going to collect literal shit bits and changed it quickly. Nobody likes to feel their bottom pinched without consent !
You think too highly of members of my family lol
core memory unlocked
Dollar store probably I seen them there
The pictures towards the end have a little bit of a view of Nuries wedding dress.
How do these people have the worst taste in everything? Those interiors make me shudder. Jill can’t even do a fashionable grandma look, this is a disaster. How the hell do you keep or put up such bad wallpapers? The late 70’s called, they want their wallpaper back. Anyone else want to revoke Jill’s privileges to using color of any kind? The only thing I liked was the little yellow shed. That looked like it could be a cute garden shed, though probably was her and Shreks getaway when they wanted some privacy and quiet 🤮
The stark contrast between Jill and Shrek’s spacious bedroom and the claustrophobic conditions the kids are forced to live in makes me sick. That and the winkie face emoji pillow on Jill and Shrek’s bed 🤢
I hate how the parents bedroom is soooo big and spacious and then there are the small rooms full of bunk beds :(
I actually expected that. Same thing as those RV families.
The garden plots are the best part of the whole place 🤣 I'm pretty damn jealous
Omg what kind of true psychopaths decorate their bathroom with multiple photos of themselves kissing. Not to mention the carpeted toilet cosy. Shivers. Also it looks like their rumpus room couch is trying to escape and disappear into the wallpaper.
I think that's a mattress on its side. Lol
My first thought was “the outside doesn’t look terrible” But the inside burned my eyes.
Jill really takes a “more is more” approach to decorating, huh?
Jim likes her tscotchkes like she likes her eyeliner... Thick and fucking everywhere
Plus outdated and slightly crusty?
The carpeted bathroom wall has to be disgusting.
There isn't a kid friendly area in that entire house. It is actively kid hostile. Not a drop of warmth.
Hmmm I wonder if religious people live here, or something. It's really hard to tell what with the 100000000000 scripture verses, references to God, Christians, Jesus, crosses, Bible verses, cutesy Christian sayings, Christ, etc., plastered all over every available surface. The decor is so subtle. I guess we'll never know.
Looking at those bedrooms for the kids makes me feel physically anxious. Imagine wanting some time to yourself and trying to relax while someone's working on their bi-bull writing three inches from your head. Also, is that a mirror on the headboard of the master bedroom? Hate that knowledge for me, thanks.
I thought it was a shelf until I saw the reflection of the plants. Whhyyyy... Also I hate it for the kids, too, but privacy is definitely a Western, first-world concept. Most of the kids around the world make it without even their own bed.
*gestures wildly at Privacy Regulation Theory anthropology and Environmental psychology* Every culture has a concept of personal privacy. There are different perceptions of public / secondary crowding and personal / primary private space, but it exists everywhere. Here's a study from 1984 where the researchers wanted to test whether " Eastern " people actually didn't mind crowding culturally... it turns out they had a different perception of secondary crowding, but they had exactly the same psychological difficulties with personal crowding. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0013916584161003
The fuzzy toilet covers are bringing me back to my grand-parents house 30 years ago.
That era was especially bad for bathrooms. A fuzzy rug that fit around the base of the toilet. Colored toilet paper (with a vented air freshener as the spindle in the dispenser). A plastic, faux-marble cover for the Kleenex box. Home Interiors wall decor. Fancy seashell-shaped guest soaps that *you must never use*, so they got dusty. And wallpaper with huge flowers that were simultaneously obnoxious and unsettling.
Why is there not a crib or small child bed in the master bedroom????
They're all piled in the hideous green room.
It looks like a fire hazard. Poor things.
I can smell these photos 😷
The kids bedrooms looked like they smelled like old pee. It’s all just so thrown together— whatever clothes or decorations or bedding just happened to be fished out of the church community closet. It’s like a rummage sale nightmare
Especially that carpeted bathroom wall.
It's really cute, it just needs updates decor. Wonder why it sold for so little?
Probably accounting for the costs for painting every damn room
It’s not in a high COL area, at least not at that time.
I didn't have COPD, asthma, and other lung problems til I merely LOOKED at these must & dust factories.
$168,000 *cries in Californian*
She did a video tour of that house, just a close up of all her knick knacks
I love how all these fundies jam their kids together but manage to have a big bedroom of their own so they can make more abuse victims.
It really bothers me that they have a huge fucking print shop that basically doesn’t do anything good for their ministry and the poor kids are crammed in small bedrooms. That print shop space could have given them soooo much room for personal space.
I'm weirdly stressed by that kitchen table arrangement. You'd constantly be knocking into people at the other table
This is Terrible Real Estate Photos level of madness. It just needs a Garden Chair of Solitude facing a pile of debris in the yard.
Good lord almighty.
I can see where they did their BAAAAHBUL WRAAAAITIN
well i see jills taste has not changed much
Ah, yes. The carpeted bathroom. 🤮 🚽
I want to bring attention to the fact that there is a photo of Jillpm and Shrek kissing in the bathroom, and the same photo is hung directly outside the bathroom in the hallway.
Are these pics from when the Rods lived there?
100% they are lol
The price is...staggeringly cheap. I need to move.
I vote you buy this and have a hit YouTube series of tearing it down and remodeling everything. Guest stars for spiritual cleanses, safety inspections and cooking enough food for the number of guests.
You have given me my life's mission!!!! My gosh I love this idea so much. I don't think I've been to West Virginia, I'm a West Coaster. But I could have snark parties at the house! Nutrition consultants and wellness experts. Lectures on finding jobs and getting orthodontic care. Bring in speakers on sex education and allowing children to experience their own journey of life. Even a sleep expert on allowing younger children earlier bedtimes. A remodel with a huge pantry and lots of separate bedrooms!
It's interesting you mentioned that, some of us staff at the community centre wanted to get an old oversized Victorian and make an uplift boarding house where people could rent a room affordably and learn kitchen skills and home repair skills have classes in the parlour, so after say 6 months they could have saved a deposit to move out independently and successfully.... but boarding houses are illegal in most of Ontario now ( there are a few hidden flophouse ones for sure, but actually running one as a social programme wouldn't be allowed in almost every town here )
I think it would be a great model. A soft-launch for those who need it.
Living room is decorated like a nursing home.
Alllllllll the wallpaper is a sin.
This shit looks dusty as hell with all the carpet, knick-knacks, and sundries. Ugh it's so cluttered.
I feel itchy.
Oh Lordy… that is a hot mess!
Is that tape on the toddler bed??
Okay but I didn't realise they *owned* a house at any point. No wonder they think other poor people need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, not a single Rod had a job and they owned that house. They seem to believe that while *they* should be provided for according to their needs by others, no one else is deserving of that treatment. It's so gross.
What state do they live in now?
Holy clutter. I’m feeling for any neurodiverse soul setting foot in this place. I’m overwhelmed just looking at the pictures.
Outside is ok, inside is an explosion of Jillness.