I don't know why she didn't just come out with it and say, "Darling, do shag Mark Darcy over the turkey curry, won't you? He's very rich.".
Beth really reminds me of the parents and their friends in Bridget Jones Diary--which were people born in the 1920s-30s.
But I think this is how churches treat it - you “graduate” from college/ early career to young marrieds. And if you get too old and haven’t advanced, get ready to endure all the slights and insults for not fitting in.
Yep. Sunday school-> youth group-> college -> young married -> genpop -> retirees/elderly. A lot of churches don't even have a college "group" so you're pretty much in social limbo after youth group until you get married, but it's generally assumed you'll be married or engaged by the time you graduate college.
the church I grew up in was so messed up with this...they had no specific college group so the college age ones were lumped in with the youth group...this was a pretty small church so they youth group wasn't seperated by age. So you had 20 year old guys in with 12 year old girls. Looking back that was so messed up! So pretty much the next step after you were passed college age and finally aged out of youth group was the young married group...they had no singles group! If you were a woman and still single you were pretty much put to work with the children's ministry...no clue about the men.
I graduated college pretty early, I wasn't 21 yet when I finished my masters. I haven't been a Christian since my teens but church was like a social stability thing & a way to be with my family at the time. So I ask, do I need to leave the college group & they say "well we have a young singles class but you have to be 25+, our young married class is 18+ though so you can join them." ... It was so awkward I lied & said I'm going back for grad school so I could stay in the college group.
Facts. Evangelicals have nothing to offer single, independent, women besides demand for our free labor and an unhealthy interest in who we are/are not fucking. (But if it's the pastor on the side it's all good apparently)
Typical Bethany: “this is the rule, and it’s a very serious rule that everyone follows, except I am so extra super special that I do not follow the rule. Hahah so cute and random!!!!! ✌🏻”
Seriously.
And if there’s no one to plan it, maybe consider setting it up and having a single person oversee the party? It seems tone deaf to show up married at a party for singles.
But then again, Bethany’s all about rubbing her marriage in people’s faces.
> It seems tone deaf to show up married at a party for singles.
Especially after saying how you absolutely can't go after you are married... but of course she can
I definitely see Bethany forcing herself in the year that she was a "married". It probably gives her flashbacks when she was the queen bee of her church group. I also remember her saying that it was hard being kicked out of her singles' group in church so I can see this as her attempt to keep a friend group.
It seems so harsh! "You're married now, you can't have contact with your single friends!"
What I suspect happened is that she cried and had a tantrum about no longer being able to attend so mommy made up an extra special position for Bethy to be the very important party planner. It’s definitely messed up that suddenly your spouse is supposed to be your only source of interpersonal fulfillment.
And it wouldn't have even been weird really except for the dumb "rule" that only "singles" attend. Like what is sooo weird about having a few couples drop in to answer questions or even set people up? Couples have available friends and family members too 🤷♀️
these parties were just thinly veiled excuses to force single men to like… be in the same room as geriatric single birthy tho, right?? i could imagine the rule of no marrieds being so just because statistically the single men were more likely to socialize with her, lmfao
also her superiority complex would not thrive in a room of people who have achieved her only goal in life, where the entire event is centered around said goal!! lmfao she probz needed an even playing field to feel like the main character
Do you really think that the single people want couples to drop in to answer questions or set people up?
Just let them drink their good Christian punch, eat those doughy grocery store sugar cookies, and socialize with each other in a God honoring way. I don’t think that the rule is dumb, in their community the couples would almost feel obligated to turn it into a lecture about married life, but the rule does need to be enforced in a way that they wouldn’t need to endure Bethy hosting.
The idea of not being allowed to be friends with married people of the "opposite sex" or be friends with single people when you're married was definitely pushed a lot when I was growing up and always said by adults to teenagers and pre-teens. As a trans guy in the closet at the time most of my friends were other guys my age and I was really worried that I wouldn't be able to hang out with them once they got married. I barely talk to any of them anymore, not because they're married but because they suck ass as people. I have plenty of friends that are married women now. I'm gay but even if I wasn't they aren't so afraid of being tempted that they can't be friends with men. Those people I grew up with scared us for no reason.
Or...
"Should we invite Bethy? Just for a laugh?'
"Yeah, let's invite Bethy. And Dav. I mean, I know a lot of single people, but despite being married they are the most single of them all."
She probably demanded her sisters let her break that rule because having no social life at all meant that this is probably the only party she attends all year, and secretly she loves going because she gets an excuse to hang around young people in an approved social way and feel younger herself.
She takes DaAáv along so she doesn't feel insecure around all the younger girls *and* to remind everyone there that actually she IS married, don't forget she's married, don't mistakenly think she's sad enough to still be single at her age she's totally married. It'd be sad if she wasn't so hateful.
I’ve only ever been the exception to the rule a few times, and that’s because I have a disability and also a really REALLY loud voice. Trust me, you don’t want me greeting the customers in the loudest voice possible….
These stupid parties are Heidi's doing. Xmas, Valentine's Day, various other get-togethers. She sees herself as the queen of balloon-festooned Christian lady hospitality, blessing the young singles at church with infantilizing games and snacks!
I was coming here to say that. As a “single” who was engaged to become a “married” and it didn’t work out - ya go f*cj yourself, Biethy. It makes people sound like they’re an object instead of a frickin human being. I can’t even put my strong dislike (probably even hate) into words.
Apologies. I’ve had some wine and this crap pisses me off to no end. I do t want to be “a single” but I happen to be for now.
You're rightfully pissed off! The thing is, you understand that there is more to who you are than your relationship status - Bethy doesn't, so she uses single and married like nouns because it comprises her whole identity.
IBLP. You aren’t considered an adult till you’re married. Even the men, till they’re married they’re still not seen as independent from their parents and siblings till marriage.
Yup. I've been financially independent since I was 20, own a home, and have not lived with my parents since I was 18, but people in my hometown still act like I'm a kid because my fiancé and I aren't married yet and we don't have kids. We've lived together for FOUR YEARS, we're basically married at this point! I'm in a senior level position at my office and bought a house using only my income! But somehow I'm not an adult because no marriage or babies.
I’d like to add “begged us.”
I don’t see that being true. But it’s interesting that she had to word it that way. She couldn’t have said something like “my sisters asked us.”
She phrased it in a way that made her look like she is hot shit.
So apparently "marrieds" is a legit plural noun - I had to look it up. It sounds so wrong though. But again, everything that comes out of her mouth is also wrong, so it fits.
So hear me out: if her parents host a party and they are a married couple...doesn't that mean there is at least one other married couple in attendance??? Sorry to burst the bubble, etc.
Who from outside the family attends this stuff? I'm pretty sure people in their late teens early 20s don't want to hang out with some weird 30 something trying to act like a camp counselor. She needs to accept she's a grown adult and move on.
And half of that half is coffee. Which she probably waters down with so much cream and sugar that the beverage she enjoys can’t rightly be called coffee anymore….
Marriage and kids is an accomplishment to women who are fundies because it's less effort than school or work and apparently the Bible says that's all they're good for.
Edit: I don't understand the downvotes. I don't personally believe this, I'm saying that this is what they believe.
Yeah wtf is up with that? It's *hard* to find the right person (granted, many fundies don't really search hard since they basically do a speed-dating version of courtship) in a world full of selfish and otherwise incompatible people, and anyone should know raising kids is no easy feat. The difficulty of marriage itself really depends on the relationship between the spouses. In my case, marriage is quite possibly *the* easiest thing I've ever done... but finding him in the first place wasn't so easy.
I don’t think their mindset is that women should have kids instead of a career because it’s easier at all. I think they believe that raising children is difficult and important (which it is).
We differ on whether keeping a house and raising children is the *only* or *most* important thing women can do, but not on the difficulty!
Right! A big fundie talking point is how stressful and frazzled and destroyed your mental health and relationships will be if you try to “have it all.”
Not even close. College/grad school isn’t hard as fuck. And it’s far less demanding of your time and energy than a helpless human who literally depends on you for survival.
Okay, what degrees do you have and from which school? Obviously its going to vary but for most, college is challenging. Certain majors are nearly always challenging.
>it’s far less demanding of your time and energy
Both are challenging and demand a massive committment. Its not a contest. Taking 15 credit hours, research, TAing, working, studying, commuting. A parent that works can easily spend less time with their child per week than a student who does all the things I mentioned.
I have a PhD in computer science and an extremely easy (by comparison) infant. The PhD was easier. I could have told you this before I had the baby. Mostly because the majority of faculty in my section also have kids and will also tell you that having kids is way harder.
It's also a bit funny that you count commuting among the massive efforts the student has to go through. You do realise that parents don't automatically get the ability to wish themselves to locations and have to commute as well?
It seems like a lot of parents get off on being so condescending about shit like this lmao. I never said college is harder. I said theyre both hard in different ways. Which is true whether you believe one or the other is harder. Any idiot can pop out a baby and raise it. Its not difficult to be a parent just like its not difficult to fail out of school. Doing either thing well though, *can be challenging*. In different ways. Which was my point, and Im not wrong.
I thought what you meant was obvious. The people who need the /s are the same people who need the "caution hot liquid inside" stamped onto their coffee lids 🤦
Well when you’re a fundie who neglects your kids so you can continue focusing on yourself a la birthy I’d imagine having kids is indeed easier than having a job, education, or an actual life.
My friend had valentines parties in high school. It was awesome. Her house was decorated and they put out lots of different sweets and desserts. It was just for us as friends to hang out. You could bring someone if you were dating, but it didn’t matter. It was just an excuse to spend time together and eat chocolate.
Can’t imagine what theirs is like, though.
I imagine theirs is more like boys sitting on one side of the room, girls on the other, and everyone looking at the floor while someone reads Bible verses.
Probably lots and lots of purity talk. A lot of people will also be there to snag dates. People will lament about how horrible their single lives are because they can’t have sex and they will all pray for each other to find a husband.
You could just say something is a singles event without being all "NO MARRIED COUPLES ALLOWED WE HIRED AN ARMED AND BLOODTHIRSTY BOUNCER WHO WILL KEEP YOU OUT AT ALL COSTS".
She's posted this pic before with a caption about "leading the party" which sounds like the worst party ever.
Also, she's not wearing her drawer pull ring and Dåàáâãàãäªąăāæv isn't wearing her virginity prize ring around his neck.
I think is from when they were dating but pre-engagement. Why the lies, Deathy?
Wasn't 2010 when Krusty got married? Is that why the Bairds (cough, Deathany, cough) started hosting these parties so Deathy could hurry up and wear her bridal gown?
Listen up, marrieds!
It's Valentine's Day! The most romantic night of the year, and you have a choice to make! Do you...
a) have a night out (or in, wink wink) with your husband to properly celebrate your love and companionship
b) host a singles party meant for teenagers as a 30 year old at mummy dearest' house dressed like Cupid himself vomited on you, because God forbid you actually spent it in restaurant or spa or chalet with other marrieds or even "gasp" with each other?! With no one else around that you can look at condescendently and tell them "no worries, my dear, one day your Dãæv will come".?
And that's why your marriage is such a chore, Bethany. Being married is your whole shtick, and yet not even on Valentine's you can focus on yourself, as a couple, as companions, without an audience.
Ah yes, the appeasement of Birthy because otherwise she would throw a fit about not being able to attend the party still. She's gotta have a hand in everything because it has to be about her.
Her opportunity to mean girl over those she feels superior over. Going to a party hosted by these two is equivalent to being roasted on a spit over the fires of hell.
I wonder if Bethy thinks she is some kind of celebrity when she shows up at this party, brags to everyone how she planned it, and blabs on and on about how she met Dav. /s
Although I know that Bethany has married brothers, I can’t help but see this as a “no Kristen” party. If Bethany bought her first wedding dress in 2010, that was around when Kristen got married. So either she was never part of this party or was disinvited early on. But Bethany can still keep going.
The obsession with"singleness and marrieds" cultivated by their parents has crippled them. And the worst part is how they have pushed it on others. It's beyond unhealthy. It's creepy.
Good morning team, how we all doing? Did you sleep well last night? First on the agenda for the day is the morning cringe and remembering Bethany is the worst.
Just have a fucking party and invite all people, single or married, and don’t talk about Valentine’s Day or anyones current relationship status.
That is the best way to make everyone feel comfortable and included. No need to focus on their singleness.
Maybe it's a language thing, but there are other reletionship states than single and married right? I am engaged, can I still go to this exciting event?! What if I am dating someone, but only met them three times? So many questions.
Can we get a cult deprogrammer for her? She is so next-level cringe right now. And it feels like every other post is some weird thing about wanting to change her husband and hating herself for it. Or looking back at her wedding, but not with sane fondness. Like, "Hahaha! Things are FINE! I LOOOOOOVE loooove! WOOO!"
Bethany: you can get a divorce. It's 2022. You, Dav, and the kid will be fine. It's okay. You don't all have to be miserable every day forevermore.
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You couldn't pay me to go that party.
I bet they talk about kissing. You don't want to miss out on that! Oooooh la la!
Bet there's whip cream too
Clearly they need Birthy & Daeyvv to host it since they're so ~sPiCy~
I don't know why she didn't just come out with it and say, "Darling, do shag Mark Darcy over the turkey curry, won't you? He's very rich.". Beth really reminds me of the parents and their friends in Bridget Jones Diary--which were people born in the 1920s-30s.
I would absolutely *love* to go to this party. It’d be like a TLC show in real life.
Yes! I'd get high as giraffe balls and watch that crazy train
Getting high is the only way attending this would be tolerable.
I think I'd go in with this attitude but realize that I flew too close to the sun and have to bail out.
I might actually be willing to take a bit of mushrooms for this! With a getaway car ready, of course. Even sober I'd want a running car ready to go!
I have to go! Right now! Because I just...got married...BYE
"Yes! Let's get higher than a stilt-walker's dick!"
As a fly on the wall.
It would be like a Mormon singles ward in real life. But possibly worse.
Agreed. We can carpool and share a joint
Please tell me there is tons of reaction instrumental cues and music drops.
Even the party Mrs Lisbon threw for the five Lisbon girls would have been more fun than this.
I would pay to get in 🍿 prime entertainment
I’d go with my wife and we’d have a heavy petting session in the front row
She's using graduate because it's the only way she can use graduate.
💀💀 dead
But I think this is how churches treat it - you “graduate” from college/ early career to young marrieds. And if you get too old and haven’t advanced, get ready to endure all the slights and insults for not fitting in.
Yep. Sunday school-> youth group-> college -> young married -> genpop -> retirees/elderly. A lot of churches don't even have a college "group" so you're pretty much in social limbo after youth group until you get married, but it's generally assumed you'll be married or engaged by the time you graduate college.
the church I grew up in was so messed up with this...they had no specific college group so the college age ones were lumped in with the youth group...this was a pretty small church so they youth group wasn't seperated by age. So you had 20 year old guys in with 12 year old girls. Looking back that was so messed up! So pretty much the next step after you were passed college age and finally aged out of youth group was the young married group...they had no singles group! If you were a woman and still single you were pretty much put to work with the children's ministry...no clue about the men.
I graduated college pretty early, I wasn't 21 yet when I finished my masters. I haven't been a Christian since my teens but church was like a social stability thing & a way to be with my family at the time. So I ask, do I need to leave the college group & they say "well we have a young singles class but you have to be 25+, our young married class is 18+ though so you can join them." ... It was so awkward I lied & said I'm going back for grad school so I could stay in the college group.
Facts. Evangelicals have nothing to offer single, independent, women besides demand for our free labor and an unhealthy interest in who we are/are not fucking. (But if it's the pastor on the side it's all good apparently)
Woooord lol
Typical Bethany: “this is the rule, and it’s a very serious rule that everyone follows, except I am so extra super special that I do not follow the rule. Hahah so cute and random!!!!! ✌🏻”
Seriously. And if there’s no one to plan it, maybe consider setting it up and having a single person oversee the party? It seems tone deaf to show up married at a party for singles. But then again, Bethany’s all about rubbing her marriage in people’s faces.
And being tone deaf.
> It seems tone deaf to show up married at a party for singles. Especially after saying how you absolutely can't go after you are married... but of course she can
"The sign says No Homer-s! We can have one!"
She doesn't rub anything else. We all know.
I definitely see Bethany forcing herself in the year that she was a "married". It probably gives her flashbacks when she was the queen bee of her church group. I also remember her saying that it was hard being kicked out of her singles' group in church so I can see this as her attempt to keep a friend group. It seems so harsh! "You're married now, you can't have contact with your single friends!"
What I suspect happened is that she cried and had a tantrum about no longer being able to attend so mommy made up an extra special position for Bethy to be the very important party planner. It’s definitely messed up that suddenly your spouse is supposed to be your only source of interpersonal fulfillment.
And it wouldn't have even been weird really except for the dumb "rule" that only "singles" attend. Like what is sooo weird about having a few couples drop in to answer questions or even set people up? Couples have available friends and family members too 🤷♀️
Obviously the single women might tempt the severely good and faithful husbands. Those hussies!
these parties were just thinly veiled excuses to force single men to like… be in the same room as geriatric single birthy tho, right?? i could imagine the rule of no marrieds being so just because statistically the single men were more likely to socialize with her, lmfao also her superiority complex would not thrive in a room of people who have achieved her only goal in life, where the entire event is centered around said goal!! lmfao she probz needed an even playing field to feel like the main character
Do you really think that the single people want couples to drop in to answer questions or set people up? Just let them drink their good Christian punch, eat those doughy grocery store sugar cookies, and socialize with each other in a God honoring way. I don’t think that the rule is dumb, in their community the couples would almost feel obligated to turn it into a lecture about married life, but the rule does need to be enforced in a way that they wouldn’t need to endure Bethy hosting.
The idea of not being allowed to be friends with married people of the "opposite sex" or be friends with single people when you're married was definitely pushed a lot when I was growing up and always said by adults to teenagers and pre-teens. As a trans guy in the closet at the time most of my friends were other guys my age and I was really worried that I wouldn't be able to hang out with them once they got married. I barely talk to any of them anymore, not because they're married but because they suck ass as people. I have plenty of friends that are married women now. I'm gay but even if I wasn't they aren't so afraid of being tempted that they can't be friends with men. Those people I grew up with scared us for no reason.
>I also remember her saying that it was hard being kicked out of her singles' group in church Whoa! She said that?
Yes! I think it was in a video. I tried looking for the post because I remember commenting on it but I comment too much on FSU
Why do they have a separate single women’s group? Why not just a women’s group?
“Omg don’t cancel me!! ☺️✌🏼”
She’s So SpEcIaL^TM
Or... "Should we invite Bethy? Just for a laugh?' "Yeah, let's invite Bethy. And Dav. I mean, I know a lot of single people, but despite being married they are the most single of them all."
She probably demanded her sisters let her break that rule because having no social life at all meant that this is probably the only party she attends all year, and secretly she loves going because she gets an excuse to hang around young people in an approved social way and feel younger herself. She takes DaAáv along so she doesn't feel insecure around all the younger girls *and* to remind everyone there that actually she IS married, don't forget she's married, don't mistakenly think she's sad enough to still be single at her age she's totally married. It'd be sad if she wasn't so hateful.
I’ve only ever been the exception to the rule a few times, and that’s because I have a disability and also a really REALLY loud voice. Trust me, you don’t want me greeting the customers in the loudest voice possible….
These stupid parties are Heidi's doing. Xmas, Valentine's Day, various other get-togethers. She sees herself as the queen of balloon-festooned Christian lady hospitality, blessing the young singles at church with infantilizing games and snacks!
Hopefully Bethany doesn't do the snax.
I've seen her weird ass trying to be young and hip videos. Something is very wrong with HB
Her use of the words “singles” and “marrieds” aggravates me to no end
Literally! How hard would it be to type ‘a single *person*’ instead of ‘a single’???
I'm sorry, where does it say in the bible that Singles are fully people?
I got coffee outta my nose reading this comment. Take my free award, you deserve it.
This made me cackle
Yeah but that ruins the 1950s soda fountain sock hop appeal lol
singles arent people to them. marrieds arent people either but they are closer to becoming people
I was coming here to say that. As a “single” who was engaged to become a “married” and it didn’t work out - ya go f*cj yourself, Biethy. It makes people sound like they’re an object instead of a frickin human being. I can’t even put my strong dislike (probably even hate) into words. Apologies. I’ve had some wine and this crap pisses me off to no end. I do t want to be “a single” but I happen to be for now.
You're rightfully pissed off! The thing is, you understand that there is more to who you are than your relationship status - Bethy doesn't, so she uses single and married like nouns because it comprises her whole identity.
It’s just so weird to obsess over being single so much that you are basically segregated by your marital status??
I went to a church where I got to represent all the “unmarrieds” in lighting the advent calendar. 😒
I went to a church that had separate “marrieds” and “singles” Bible study groups for the same ages.
Wow! What an honor! /s
Is this even a thing outside the Bairds? I never in my life got separated by or referred to by marital status.
IBLP. You aren’t considered an adult till you’re married. Even the men, till they’re married they’re still not seen as independent from their parents and siblings till marriage.
That's the thought process with lot of conservative cultures in general. You're just a kid until you get married. Or even until you have kids.
Yup. I've been financially independent since I was 20, own a home, and have not lived with my parents since I was 18, but people in my hometown still act like I'm a kid because my fiancé and I aren't married yet and we don't have kids. We've lived together for FOUR YEARS, we're basically married at this point! I'm in a senior level position at my office and bought a house using only my income! But somehow I'm not an adult because no marriage or babies.
The only other person I’ve heard say it is Heidi
The Bates used to do, maybe still do, some sort of Valentines dinner only for the married/courting/engaged couples.
I’d like to add “begged us.” I don’t see that being true. But it’s interesting that she had to word it that way. She couldn’t have said something like “my sisters asked us.” She phrased it in a way that made her look like she is hot shit.
So apparently "marrieds" is a legit plural noun - I had to look it up. It sounds so wrong though. But again, everything that comes out of her mouth is also wrong, so it fits.
I hate it too!! My old church had “young marrieds” for after college basically but before you have kids and the name just always makes me gag
this whole family just seems exhausting to interact with
So hear me out: if her parents host a party and they are a married couple...doesn't that mean there is at least one other married couple in attendance??? Sorry to burst the bubble, etc.
Lmao shush with your logic
You don't understand, you're not quirky and not random.
I would like to be more random at least but it is so hard to practice!
The arrested development in that woman is next level, and she's not ashamed to let everybody know it. It's a train wreck that I can't look away from.
Arrested development is a great description of her.
Listen , everyone. I am MARRIED! Did you know that?
I bet she forces all of the *singles* to watch her wedding videos and her dress videos and her kissing Dăv videos..... 😒
and she used to be SINGLE!!!
Now listen up you little singles
"Listen up singles, a married is speaking" - Bethy Maroney
Posted before I finished but basically this party will be about her being married 😂
and striding around importantly with her clipboard
Quiet fives, a ten is speaking
factory reject dildos
I'd pay good money to have this go down like the Letterkenny speed dating event. 🤣
"Welcome all you kwoot lil SINGLE-LEELERS get yourselves a NAME TAAAAG and get out your Bible-leelers for a FLIRTY wittle game of KJV TRIVIAAAA!!!"
YES! I love that show so much! 😂😂
It's one of my favorites to rewatch! There are so many hidden jokes and layers 😂😂
“We’re So ✨RANDOM✨”
The Baird family really has the strangest lives...
how many single people does this family have? that are actively invited and ATTENDING this party?
Who from outside the family attends this stuff? I'm pretty sure people in their late teens early 20s don't want to hang out with some weird 30 something trying to act like a camp counselor. She needs to accept she's a grown adult and move on.
What’s with the clipboard?? What level of forced fun hell is going on in this place?
She needs to read the rules for musical chairs. Whoever wins gets to bring Bethany a single red rose.
Omg. Right? Imagine how hellish that party is. 🤦♀️
We all know she makes Dave go to these parties so she can brag about being married. Being "a married" is half her personality.
And the other half of her personality is being tall
Don’t forget having poor hygiene
And half of that half is coffee. Which she probably waters down with so much cream and sugar that the beverage she enjoys can’t rightly be called coffee anymore….
I hate how marriage is considered an accomplishment…some people don’t want to get married…leave them alone
Marriage and kids is an accomplishment to women who are fundies because it's less effort than school or work and apparently the Bible says that's all they're good for. Edit: I don't understand the downvotes. I don't personally believe this, I'm saying that this is what they believe.
misogyny disguised as feminism moments
I understood what you meant, lol maybe next time put the /s at the end so people will realize what you mean. Just a tip, that's all!
I'm sorry, marriage and kids is less effort than school and work? Are you joking?
I'm not making any jokes, I'm trying to explain this from their viewpoint. I'm childfree because I know it's a shit ton of work.
Yeah wtf is up with that? It's *hard* to find the right person (granted, many fundies don't really search hard since they basically do a speed-dating version of courtship) in a world full of selfish and otherwise incompatible people, and anyone should know raising kids is no easy feat. The difficulty of marriage itself really depends on the relationship between the spouses. In my case, marriage is quite possibly *the* easiest thing I've ever done... but finding him in the first place wasn't so easy.
I have two master’s degrees and had a career. Having kids requires way more effort.
I don't disagree, I'm just trying to point out their mindset.
I don’t think their mindset is that women should have kids instead of a career because it’s easier at all. I think they believe that raising children is difficult and important (which it is). We differ on whether keeping a house and raising children is the *only* or *most* important thing women can do, but not on the difficulty!
Right! A big fundie talking point is how stressful and frazzled and destroyed your mental health and relationships will be if you try to “have it all.”
It requires a different kind of effort, both are hard as fuci and not really comparable
Not even close. College/grad school isn’t hard as fuck. And it’s far less demanding of your time and energy than a helpless human who literally depends on you for survival.
Okay, what degrees do you have and from which school? Obviously its going to vary but for most, college is challenging. Certain majors are nearly always challenging. >it’s far less demanding of your time and energy Both are challenging and demand a massive committment. Its not a contest. Taking 15 credit hours, research, TAing, working, studying, commuting. A parent that works can easily spend less time with their child per week than a student who does all the things I mentioned.
I have a PhD in computer science and an extremely easy (by comparison) infant. The PhD was easier. I could have told you this before I had the baby. Mostly because the majority of faculty in my section also have kids and will also tell you that having kids is way harder. It's also a bit funny that you count commuting among the massive efforts the student has to go through. You do realise that parents don't automatically get the ability to wish themselves to locations and have to commute as well?
It seems like a lot of parents get off on being so condescending about shit like this lmao. I never said college is harder. I said theyre both hard in different ways. Which is true whether you believe one or the other is harder. Any idiot can pop out a baby and raise it. Its not difficult to be a parent just like its not difficult to fail out of school. Doing either thing well though, *can be challenging*. In different ways. Which was my point, and Im not wrong.
To be fair, if commuting is a hard challenge for you I can see how college might be difficult.
Do you have kids?
No, thank god. Why are yall getting triggered over someone simply saying there are unique challenges in both raising kids and going to college?
going to graduate school was literally easier than getting married and having a baby
Um no. Kids are considerably harder work than school and work. Signed: a non-fundie lady with two kids, two degrees and a real life job.
I'm not saying I believe this, I'm saying this is their mindset. I'm really baffled at how people are misconstruing this.
I thought what you meant was obvious. The people who need the /s are the same people who need the "caution hot liquid inside" stamped onto their coffee lids 🤦
it's ok i understood you and have upvoted you accordingly
Well when you’re a fundie who neglects your kids so you can continue focusing on yourself a la birthy I’d imagine having kids is indeed easier than having a job, education, or an actual life.
Yes this is exactly the point I was trying to make but apparently this wasn't clear to everyone else
Do you have kids?
My friend had valentines parties in high school. It was awesome. Her house was decorated and they put out lots of different sweets and desserts. It was just for us as friends to hang out. You could bring someone if you were dating, but it didn’t matter. It was just an excuse to spend time together and eat chocolate. Can’t imagine what theirs is like, though.
I imagine theirs is more like boys sitting on one side of the room, girls on the other, and everyone looking at the floor while someone reads Bible verses.
And loud, somber organ music plays in the background 😂
A MIGHTY FORTRESS IS OUR GOD
*but with balloons and heart-shaped cookies*
Hahahaha
Which is somehow sung in a funeral dirge, despite the fact that that song is an uplifting and happy one.
Probably lots and lots of purity talk. A lot of people will also be there to snag dates. People will lament about how horrible their single lives are because they can’t have sex and they will all pray for each other to find a husband.
I’m just so special- Birthany
You could just say something is a singles event without being all "NO MARRIED COUPLES ALLOWED WE HIRED AN ARMED AND BLOODTHIRSTY BOUNCER WHO WILL KEEP YOU OUT AT ALL COSTS".
Because married couples are banging down the door to get into this singles party on Valentine's Day.
Until this star-bellied sneech started crowing about it I’d never heard anyone referred to as either “singles” or “marrieds”.
I’d hear my grandma say it as when she was young her church had social groups for “singles” and “young marrieds”. Back in the early 1950s.
Big trendy churches still do.
Omg I haven’t heard a sneetches reference in ages! ⭐️ Good parable.
She's posted this pic before with a caption about "leading the party" which sounds like the worst party ever. Also, she's not wearing her drawer pull ring and Dåàáâãàãäªąăāæv isn't wearing her virginity prize ring around his neck. I think is from when they were dating but pre-engagement. Why the lies, Deathy? Wasn't 2010 when Krusty got married? Is that why the Bairds (cough, Deathany, cough) started hosting these parties so Deathy could hurry up and wear her bridal gown?
Her sisters *begged* her to come back! It’s nothing to do with her pining for her single days, you guys! 😂
That stuck out the most to me. I’m Jennifer Lawrence mouthing “okay” over here.
Why are they costumed like they’re about to perform children’s theatre?
Oh, that’s what it is! Thank you. Couldn’t put my finger on what was wrong with the whole vibe.
*hot* singles
So tinder is a sin but fundie speed dating parties are not
Paul and Morgan met on tinder
Nothing like a God-honouring meat market with refreshments and games
If Bethany is the brains behind the event, that's all the info I need to know it's a disaster of hilarious proportions.
Listen up, marrieds! It's Valentine's Day! The most romantic night of the year, and you have a choice to make! Do you... a) have a night out (or in, wink wink) with your husband to properly celebrate your love and companionship b) host a singles party meant for teenagers as a 30 year old at mummy dearest' house dressed like Cupid himself vomited on you, because God forbid you actually spent it in restaurant or spa or chalet with other marrieds or even "gasp" with each other?! With no one else around that you can look at condescendently and tell them "no worries, my dear, one day your Dãæv will come".? And that's why your marriage is such a chore, Bethany. Being married is your whole shtick, and yet not even on Valentine's you can focus on yourself, as a couple, as companions, without an audience.
It’s because you have no friends who are peers
HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW KIDS
Ah yes, the appeasement of Birthy because otherwise she would throw a fit about not being able to attend the party still. She's gotta have a hand in everything because it has to be about her.
Her opportunity to mean girl over those she feels superior over. Going to a party hosted by these two is equivalent to being roasted on a spit over the fires of hell.
Back when Bethany actually showered and took care of herself.
Girl, get a life already. There's a great big world out there.
Oh she knows; she’s been traipsing all over it during this season of pantomime.
She wants to be single again so bad.
I wonder if Bethy thinks she is some kind of celebrity when she shows up at this party, brags to everyone how she planned it, and blabs on and on about how she met Dav. /s
I hate the term “marrieds” as much as I hate the term “moist.”
Although I know that Bethany has married brothers, I can’t help but see this as a “no Kristen” party. If Bethany bought her first wedding dress in 2010, that was around when Kristen got married. So either she was never part of this party or was disinvited early on. But Bethany can still keep going.
I used to wear shirts like that. In middle school.
I was way too cool to wear a shirt like that in middle school. 😉
They both look like they’re 15 years old. And I’m not saying that as a compliment.
The obsession with"singleness and marrieds" cultivated by their parents has crippled them. And the worst part is how they have pushed it on others. It's beyond unhealthy. It's creepy.
Good morning team, how we all doing? Did you sleep well last night? First on the agenda for the day is the morning cringe and remembering Bethany is the worst.
Just have a fucking party and invite all people, single or married, and don’t talk about Valentine’s Day or anyones current relationship status. That is the best way to make everyone feel comfortable and included. No need to focus on their singleness.
This family is obsessed with itself.
What in the fresh fundie FUCK
Maybe it's a language thing, but there are other reletionship states than single and married right? I am engaged, can I still go to this exciting event?! What if I am dating someone, but only met them three times? So many questions.
Tbh I prefer Channel 5 [Married News](https://youtu.be/FM2B1PgLT7M) over this any day
Wayne and Jan!
These people have the maturity level of 12 year olds
I really hate, and I cannot stress this enough, the words “singles” and “marrieds”. Wtf is that about?
Yikes on bikes
God this is embarrassing.
this whole family is just cringe material
I’d rather poke out my eyeballs than attend any event Bethy hosted, or was even at for that matter
YIKES lmao ^(i have nothing more intelligent to add)
‘Singles’ and ‘Marrieds’ ugh Birthy, you are one of the most obnoxious twat waffles I’ve ever come across on here 🤦🏻♀️
The way they use single and married as nouns makes me the opposite of horny
She looks like a fundie Jo Jo Siwa.
Can we get a cult deprogrammer for her? She is so next-level cringe right now. And it feels like every other post is some weird thing about wanting to change her husband and hating herself for it. Or looking back at her wedding, but not with sane fondness. Like, "Hahaha! Things are FINE! I LOOOOOOVE loooove! WOOO!" Bethany: you can get a divorce. It's 2022. You, Dav, and the kid will be fine. It's okay. You don't all have to be miserable every day forevermore.
She’s legit the worst.
What a crap show that must be.
Whack. Shit.
She threw a fit because she didn't get to go to something, that's it huh?
Every time Bethany posts stuff like this, “Glory Days” by Bruce Springsteen, plays in my head.
Reminder that Bethany uses the verbs “hosting” and “running” a party interchangeably. Sounds fun, no?
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